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Great-Kazoo
09-23-2015, 09:15
ANOTHER salmonella outbreak, from IMPORTED FOOD!. This one concerns CO. What gets me is how much later they issue recalls. This one was fast. Usually you hear or read about food being recalled in September, that was packaged in june or july. The usual one is EGGS, GROUND BEEF, CHICKEN, ETC. MY bitch is they recall food you purchased 3-6 months ago. Usually for BBQ's or parties. Who the hell DIDN'T EAT the 3 lbs of recalled brats that week ??

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/three-dead-558-sick-cucumber-salmonella-outbreak-n431881

The recalled cucumbers were distributed in at least 21 other states: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina and Utah.
zteknik
09-23-2015, 19:19
Geez and I thought Ford had a lot of recalls...
rbeau30
09-23-2015, 19:40
Geez and I thought Ford had a lot of recalls...

Or VW.
Aloha_Shooter
09-23-2015, 20:13
VW and Dr. Winterkorn should get a prize for evading the EPA and their stupid mandates. I like clean air and water but the EPA has nothing to do with either.
rbeau30
09-23-2015, 21:01
I bet VW is not the only automaker to do this. Isn't automakers forced to comply with some moving target every year on emission standards? Wouldn't be cheaper to just tweak the software instead of engineer a better engine?
brutal
09-23-2015, 21:12
VW and Dr. Winterkorn should get a prize for evading the EPA and their stupid mandates. I like clean air and water but the EPA has nothing to do with either.


I bet VW is not the only automaker to do this. Isn't automakers forced to comply with some moving target every year on emission standards? Wouldn't be cheaper to just tweak the software instead of engineer a better engine?

Have you seen the standards requirements?


Even before the last recall VW TDI vehicles in the University of WV test were running much lower NOX emissions than previous generations of diesel engines. For example, the 2013 Passat TDI had an average of .24 grams per mile of NOX. Previous generations of TDI diesel engines were EPA certified at 1.0 gram per mile. The EPA standard is .05 grams per mile. All other emission gasses were below the EPA limits in every test.

Here's a good article with a little more detail for anyone interested.

http://www.mountain-valleymotors.com/volkswagen-and-epa-notice-of-violation-for-2009-2015-tdi-vehicles-commentary-and-analysis/
rbeau30
09-23-2015, 21:25
Have you seen the standards requirements?


I don't remember specifics, but I remember reading "programs" as far back as 1999.


Here is a good start for reading material:
http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/ld-hwy.htm
buffalobo
09-23-2015, 21:36
VW and Dr. Winterkorn should get a prize for evading the EPA and their stupid mandates. I like clean air and water but the EPA has nothing to do with either.


^^^^This.
buffalobo
09-23-2015, 21:40
Damn, have not seen a derail/off topic after one post in a while.

Sorry Great-Kazzo.[mop]
rbeau30
09-23-2015, 21:42
Damn, have not seen a derail/off topic after one post in a while.

Sorry Great-Kazzo.[mop]

I was trying to kill it but that backfired. I didn't follow rule #2.
zteknik
09-23-2015, 22:13
Damn, have not seen a derail/off topic after one post in a while.

Sorry Great-Kazzo.[mop]
My bad joke, working for Ford will do that to a guy.
Seriously though there seems to be a lot more bad food recalls as of recent then there has ever been. Quality control at its worst, all in the name to make more profits.
rbeau30
09-23-2015, 22:19
Bad food is a way of getting the bleeding hearts to demand more legislation tracking food "from manufacturer to consumer". Great way to find out where all those silly preppers and their food hoards are. Because in an emergency, everyone is entitled to that food, right? It is easier to round it all up when you know where it is, and who bought it.
brutal
09-23-2015, 22:31
Damn, have not seen a derail/off topic after one post in a while.

Sorry Great-Kazzo.[mop]

And every post after... [LOL]

Got to be a record for something.
GilpinGuy
09-23-2015, 22:39
Bad food is a way of getting the bleeding hearts to demand more legislation tracking food "from manufacturer to consumer". Great way to find out where all those silly preppers and their food hoards are. Because in an emergency, everyone is entitled to that food, right? It is easier to round it all up when you know where it is, and who bought it.

Huh. I don't recall any alerts or recalls from farmers markets or cottage sellers. I could be wrong though.
Great-Kazoo
09-23-2015, 22:46
Huh. I don't recall any alerts or recalls from farmers markets or cottage sellers. I could be wrong though.

There's no one tracking those sales. Possibly since there's no sales / offerings of food being cooked, samples etc.
rbeau30
09-23-2015, 22:49
Huh. I don't recall any alerts or recalls from farmers markets or cottage sellers. I could be wrong though.

Those are too small to make a difference. Big nationwide food recalls are needed to make the news. With hundreds of children sickened. Lysteria, salmonella. Then we can introduce some common sense legislation requiring tracking of all batches of mass-produced food, from major manufacturers. Ohhh, and farmers markets and cottage sellers will be required to comply with cost prohibitive tracking methods, (grandfathered of course) or cease to be able to sell food from person to person. It is a public health issue, and is for all of our safety.
GilpinGuy
09-23-2015, 23:40
I would think that one outbreak of some disease from some [gasp] "backyard grower" of veggies would send the big ag thugs into action and try to prohibit this sort of illicit and dangerous transaction. Yeah, probably not "nightly news worthy".

Shit...I forgot. They're watching me.
Aloha_Shooter
09-24-2015, 06:42
Huh. I don't recall any alerts or recalls from farmers markets or cottage sellers. I could be wrong though.

They're inching their way toward banning food sales from anyone who hasn't received their federal/state licensing. Look at how lemonade stands and bake sales have been stamped down on.
JohnnyDrama
09-24-2015, 09:17
Bad food is a way of getting the bleeding hearts to demand more legislation tracking food "from manufacturer to consumer". Great way to find out where all those silly preppers and their food hoards are. Because in an emergency, everyone is entitled to that food, right? It is easier to round it all up when you know where it is, and who bought it.

Heaven forbid you have your own cow and can butcher it, or even more radically, hunt wild game!


They're inching their way toward banning food sales from anyone who hasn't received their federal/state licensing. Look at how lemonade stands and bake sales have been stamped down on.

it seems like there was a little dust up in the Farmer's Market here regarding this a few years back. Home made Zucchini bread anyone?