View Full Version : Well Hell, now what? More executive action.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/white-house-obama-preparing-executive-actions-gun-control/
No details on what the pen & phone are going to do other than go around our elected representatives. Obama hates enforcing the laws but sure loves making them.
Hopefully this won't be too painful.
milwaukeeshaker
10-05-2015, 14:32
MFr's Over 50 years I've listened to their B.S. This crap really started with the Kennedy's getting offed. I'm so GD sick of it I can't even watch the news or read a paper. Democraps and Repubs alike, they are both worthless POS. What ever happened to the checks and balances system built into our constitutional republic? Executive orders my a--.
Been working all day. What's the jist?
We don't know specifics yet, Just a news item on Drudge that Zero is getting ready for more gun specific EO's.
Does anyone know how many of the 23 Obummer signed in January 2013 actually resulted in anything happening that restricted gun rights or changed any laws? They looked more like ideas with no real actions. Some really just said enforce the gun laws on the books, but that did not occur.
I am just wondering if the 23 prior EOs had any substance at all.
What ever happened to the checks and balances system built into our constitutional republic?
Consti-what? The politicians used it for toilet paper.
Obama seems reluctant to accept the fact that we have this checks and balances thing going in our country. The executive branch enforces the laws, whereas the legislative creates laws. Obama needs to be reminded of this, as it's quite obvious that he didn't pass basic middle school civics.
Obama seems reluctant to accept the fact that we have this checks and balances thing going in our country. The executive branch enforces the laws, whereas the legislative creates laws. Obama needs to be reminded of this, as it's quite obvious that he didn't pass basic middle school civics.
Obama taught Constitutional Law. This has nothing to do with education, but everything to do with his willingness to enforce all of our laws. He is selective as to which laws are enforced, ignored, or bypassed by executive fiat.
Laws and processes are moot when discussing the safety of the children.
The safety of the children is the primary reason we need to be able to keep and pass along our guns. Most of the children I'm talking about have not been born yet. We can only imagine what the future dictatorial democrat leaders will continue to do to this country in the future.
68Charger
10-05-2015, 19:25
Obama taught Constitutional Law. This has nothing to do with education, but everything to do with his willingness to enforce all of our laws. He is selective as to which laws are enforced, ignored, or bypassed by executive fiat.
yeah, based on his actions in office I'm convinced he specialized in Constitutional law to figure out how to CIRCUMVENT it...
This is a case of "know thy enemy"... his enemy as POSOTUS (not a typo) IS the Constitution
Great-Kazoo
10-05-2015, 19:49
Obama taught Constitutional Law. This has nothing to do with education, but everything to do with his willingness to enforce all of our laws. He is selective as to which laws are enforced, ignored, or bypassed by executive fiat.
Where did he teach again? To date NO college transcripts of him actually receiving (A VALID DEGREE) have surfaced.
FactCheck.org: Obama a Constitutional Law Professor? (http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/)
We don't know specifics yet, Just a news item on Drudge that Zero is getting ready for more gun specific EO's.
I found a minute to read the link.
Sorry everyone if this is a bit off color, but to me, mentioning to the press that something is coming is the White House equivalent of having the Press Secretary hop online and tweet, "Hey America, don't go to school tomorrow."
theGinsue
10-05-2015, 21:09
Obama will continue to use his phone and his pen to circumvent or completely ignore the U.S. Constitution until someone stops him (such as Congress or the SCOTUS) and we know that just isn't going to happen. He's a lame duck nearing the last year of his [scheduled] term in office. He's only been successful at partially destroying this country. He's certain to make some serious "changes" over the coming 16 months.
I don't trust FactCheck.org.
Just one site that reveals the truth behind FactCheck.org: http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_141905/Factcheck_org_--_A_Fraudulent_Fact_Check_Site_Funded_By_Biased_Pol itical_Group.html
ANADRILL
10-07-2015, 12:56
Where did he teach again? To date NO college transcripts of him actually receiving (A VALID DEGREE) have surfaced.
Exactly
Great-Kazoo
10-07-2015, 13:11
Obama will continue to use his phone and his pen to circumvent or completely ignore the U.S. Constitution until someone stops him (such as Congress or the SCOTUS) and we know that just isn't going to happen. He's a lame duck nearing the last year of his [scheduled] term in office. He's only been successful at partially destroying this country. He's certain to make some serious "changes" over the coming 16 months.
I don't trust FactCheck.org.
Just one site that reveals the truth behind FactCheck.org: http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_141905/Factcheck_org_--_A_Fraudulent_Fact_Check_Site_Funded_By_Biased_Pol itical_Group.html
So you believe Obama is an actual Constitutional Professor, with validated documentation?
I guess we'll see what their new ideas are tomorrow:
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/256077-dems-to-make-gun-control-push-on-thursday
I'm not a fan of FactCheck.org, but they were at least looking at Obama's claim and essentially saying 'hang on a minute....'
kidicarus13
10-07-2015, 22:20
I'm surprised this topic hasn't generated more conversation...
WASHINGTON POST 10/07/2015
Senate Democrats plan to unveil a list of gun control principles on Thursday that they plan to use as the foundation for sweeping gun control legislation.
The three-part proposal — spearheaded by Senate Democratic Policy and Communications Center Chairman Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) and Debbie Stabenow (Mich.) — includes closing background check loopholes for Internet and gun show sales, expanding the background check database and cracking down on the illegal gun market, according to a letter to Senate colleagues obtained by The Washington Post.
The principles will be unveiled Thursday, one day before President Obama is scheduled to visit Roseburg, Ore., to visit the families of victims of the shooting that occurred last week at an area community college.
Democrats hope to expand background checks to include domestic abuse reports and prevent any gun purchases until a full background check is completed, according to the letter. The plan would also make it illegal for someone to buy a gun on behalf of someone else who is unable to buy a firearm legally.
The principles will reintroduce many of the universal background check proposals contained in the failed bipartisan legislation introduced in 2013 by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WestVa.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.). Just one of the four Democrats who voted against the bill, Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), is still in the Senate and gun control advocates hope to win support from nearly every Democrat when the new bill is eventually written.
The plan is not expected to get much, if any, support from Republicans and may never receive a vote in the GOP-controlled Senate where 60 votes are needed for passage. Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) has already proposed legislation that would encourage states to report more information about mentally ill individuals to the federal background check database. No date has been set for further action on the less restrictive Cornyn bill.
Schumer and Stabenow did not specify when they plan to introduce formal legislation. But the new push builds on Obama’s recent calls for Congress to act on gun control.
“This is a political choice that we make, to allow this to happen every few months in America,” Obama said in a press conference after the Oregon shooting. “We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction.”
“We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction.”
If only the President or the Secretary of State had made this exact comment after Benghazi.
Do something, it's for the children!
I bought some uppers right after this happened. My wife just found out and is upset.
I hope this dies in the Senate like the article suggests.
I'm surprised this topic hasn't generated more conversation...
WASHINGTON POST 10/07/2015
Senate Democrats plan to unveil a list of gun control principles on Thursday that they plan to use as the foundation for sweeping gun control legislation.
The three-part proposal — spearheaded by Senate Democratic Policy and Communications Center Chairman Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) and Debbie Stabenow (Mich.) — includes closing background check loopholes for Internet and gun show sales, expanding the background check database and cracking down on the illegal gun market, according to a letter to Senate colleagues obtained by The Washington Post.
They call them loopholes, they call FTF transactions "Internet Sales" to confuse the LIV that think you can shop a Sears and Roebuck catalog and have a Heavy Machine Gun delivered to your door. The latest shooter possessed every gun legally.
The principles will be unveiled Thursday, one day before President Obama is scheduled to visit Roseburg, Ore., to visit the families of victims of the shooting that occurred last week at an area community college.
Democrats hope to expand background checks to include domestic abuse reports and prevent any gun purchases until a full background check is completed, according to the letter. The plan would also make it illegal for someone to buy a gun on behalf of someone else who is unable to buy a firearm legally.
This law already exists moron's, it's called a straw purchase and is illegal. How about we prosecute offenders? Better yet, how about because Fuck You.
The principles will reintroduce many of the universal background check proposals contained in the failed bipartisan legislation introduced in 2013 by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WestVa.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.). Just one of the four Democrats who voted against the bill, Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), is still in the Senate and gun control advocates hope to win support from nearly every Democrat when the new bill is eventually written.
The plan is not expected to get much, if any, support from Republicans and may never receive a vote in the GOP-controlled Senate where 60 votes are needed for passage. Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) has already proposed legislation that would encourage states to report more information about mentally ill individuals to the federal background check database. No date has been set for further action on the less restrictive Cornyn bill.
Schumer and Stabenow did not specify when they plan to introduce formal legislation. But the new push builds on Obama’s recent calls for Congress to act on gun control.
“This is a political choice that we make, to allow this to happen every few months in America,” Obama said in a press conference after the Oregon shooting. “We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction.”
Bitter Clinger
10-07-2015, 23:56
They call them loopholes, they call FTF transactions "Internet Sales" to confuse the LIV that think you can shop a Sears and Roebuck catalog and have a Heavy Machine Gun delivered to your door. The latest shooter possessed every gun legally.
This law already exists moron's, it's called a straw purchase and is illegal. How about we prosecute offenders? Better yet, how about because Fuck You.
Beat me to it. So he wants to pass a law, to make something illegal, which is already illegal. Seems like a good use of time.
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