Question on MOA

[Roger Ronas]

I am considering this scope for my daughters 5.56 rifle.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003E8RXZA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2IRLV0FTMBBO7&coliid=I3VVQ915JWJR80
it has listed a .1 millimeter click adjustments MOA.

My question is how does metric compare to American? In other words, how would I move 1/4 MOA with this scope?

Thanks
Roger

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm in the process of learning this myself

(https://www.ar-15.co/forums/100-Sights-Optics-and-Zeroing)https://www.ar-15.co/forums/100-Sights-Optics-and-Zeroing

http://www.cstactical.com/?option=com_k2&view=item&id=199:mil-vs-moa&Itemid=447&tmpl=component&print=1

http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/MilDot_MOA.asp

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=476903

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/04/mil-radian-defined-and-mildot-scope-use-demonstrated/

[Blowby]

Using the same math as the standard Mil-Dot, the illuminated Mil-DotBar adds a thin line, dot, and adjustable green illumination.

According to the discription its Mil/Mil so you do not need to convert.

[ray1970]

"Mil" isn't millimeter. It's for milrad.

[SideShow Bob]

1 milrad = 3.6 in. @ 100 yards. So, one click (.1mil) = .36 in. @ 100 yards. Or 3.6 in @ 1,000 yards.

[Roger Ronas]

Good links Great Kazoo.

ray1970, The description calls it Millimeters, not I.

Have some reading and learning on those links.
thanks
Roger

[brutal]

Actually it's milliradians. But yes, milrad or simply mil for short.

This guy has some good videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5AGsHSIsVo

[68Charger]

Good links Great Kazoo.

ray1970, The description calls it Millimeters, not I.

Have some reading and learning on those links.
thanks
Roger

I'm saying bad translation... and what they thought was millimeters is milliradians.

MOA and milliradians are both measures of angles... millimeters is a measure of distance.

In simple terms, think of MOA and milliradians as a triangle, with the short side at the target, and the angle opposite that short side measured in MOA or milliradians (which are just smaller measurements than degrees)

[Delfuego]

I would stay away from Millet, they are not very good. I would take a look at either a SWFA or Vortex in or around that price range.

I would also, for sure, get matching turrets & reticles. Whether they are MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL matching is way better. This way you don't need to do conversions or fractions.

[Great-Kazoo]

I am considering this scope for my daughters 5.56 rifle.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003E8RXZA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2IRLV0FTMBBO7&coliid=I3VVQ915JWJR80
it has listed a .1 millimeter click adjustments MOA.

My question is how does metric compare to American? In other words, how would I move 1/4 MOA with this scope?



Thanks
Roger


Another question is how far / distance is your daughter realistically going to shoot, barrel length etc?

[Roger Ronas]

It will be a 5.56, 16" barrel. Just for plinking but she is interested in reaching out there to about 300 yds.

[Roger Ronas]

I had just seen that Millet on sale. I would prefer a Vortex, illuminated with Mil Dots. Any suggestions?
Roger

[Tim K]

I've owned that exact scope. It's just OK for the money. For the same money, I'd rather have the Super Sniper, too. In fact, that's what I bought when I sold it.

[J]

300 yards does not require a tactical scope. If you want to take it double that, then it might be worth the investment. But if you do there, I'd plan to do first focal plane, and matching MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA (reticle/turrets) scope.

[Alpha2]

I've got a Vortex, and a SWFA, both fine scopes. I believe that MOA might be easier to learn, as it most closely resembles what we encounter in our everyday lives. If you really want to make the investment in time and education, mildot can be fun.

[Great-Kazoo]

The first question should have been, I would like a scope that does X but keep it in this $$$ price range. A basic 3x9 will get them to 300 yrd. There's no need, as J said for a "tactical" scope.
It really comes down to how much or little the OP wants to invest.