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vossman
10-06-2015, 15:29
USPS cars/trucks don't have license plates? They are govt right? I can't think of any other vehicle that doesn't have plates.

TFOGGER
10-06-2015, 15:31
UPS trucks in Colorado generally have fleet plates. Some other states have dedicated UPS tags.

BushMasterBoy
10-06-2015, 16:43
They don't want them to go postal?

Skip
10-06-2015, 17:40
They don't want them to go postal?

No kidding, have you seen those fees!?!

theGinsue
10-06-2015, 18:21
UPS trucks in Colorado generally have fleet plates. Some other states have dedicated UPS tags.

True, but UPS is a corporation whereas USPS is .fed. I thought even federal govt vehicles required license plates.

wctriumph
10-06-2015, 18:40
[facepalm]
Actually, I have not the slightest idea what laws govern plates on USPS vehicles. And I am at work so I don't have time to look.

gnihcraes
10-06-2015, 19:15
probably the same reason the state fleet of cars doesn't have renewal tags either. (stickers) and they say GVT too. The GVT charging itself for plates..

rbeau30
10-06-2015, 19:31
I consider it saving us taxpayers money. Between them and Amtrak they haven't operated in the Black in how long?

roberth
10-06-2015, 19:55
I consider it saving us taxpayers money. Between them and Amtrak they haven't operated in the Black in how long?

Since inception.

rbeau30
10-06-2015, 20:22
Yeah, so they have numbers posted on all their vehicles. So the only real reason I would want .gov vehicles to have plates is a readily available unique identifier just in case they are used in a crime. But Plates can be removed. Decal Vehicle ID numbers on the paint job is a little harder.

So not having plates saves us money. The .gov is not going to pay its own DMV fees to register its own fleet of vehicles. The reason why the military's vehicles had plates when I was in is the plates correspond to the GSA contract the vehicle was bought and maintained on.

TFOGGER
10-07-2015, 08:49
True, but UPS is a corporation whereas USPS is .fed. I thought even federal govt vehicles required license plates.

Oops...misread the original post...[facepalm]

Wulf202
10-07-2015, 10:10
Usps vehicles have fed granted exceptions from safety standards. Emission standards and licensing. They generally plate the civilian vehicles they use to avoid confusion with local authorities.

Martinjmpr
10-07-2015, 11:31
A lot of USG vehicles are leased and bear license plates that the leasing company pays for.

Only non-tactical military vehicles (NTVs or sometimes called TMP for Transportation Motor Pool) vehicles have plates. Tactical vehicles (HMMWVs, CUCVs, M35 Deuce-and-a-halfs, etc) have bumper numbers that are painted on that correspond to the unit. Sometimes units obscure bumper numbers for security reasons. When I was in Germany we went on an exercise once where we had to paint over part of the bumper numbers identifying our vehicles as belonging to the 1st Armored Division because there were Soviet military observers around (SMLM - Soviet Military Liaison Mission.)

Bonus question: Who still has their SMLM card? I have mine! :D

ben4372
10-08-2015, 22:20
Usps vehicles have fed granted exceptions from safety standards. Emission standards and licensing. They generally plate the civilian vehicles they use to avoid confusion with local authorities.
My favorite part is the emissions exemption. Those mail trucks are some of the least maintained junkers on the road. My old mail man broke down on my street every other month. And most of them stink like an old Plymouth Valient.

brutal
10-08-2015, 22:52
My favorite part is the emissions exemption. Those mail trucks are some of the least maintained junkers on the road. My old mail man broke down on my street every other month. And most of them stink like an old Plymouth Valient.

I passed an old beater pickup on 86 yesterday that was bouncing down the road on bad front shocks doing just about the limit mostly because he was running so rich my eyes were burning and I knew too much more and I would have a massive headache afterward. I got stuck behind him about halfway in from Kiowa and all the way through E-ville. Dude throws up his hands as I go around (safely) and then wants to ride my ass after I come up on slower traffic. Sheesh, take a chill pill dude.

OneGuy67
10-09-2015, 19:03
A lot of USG vehicles are leased and bear license plates that the leasing company pays for.

Only non-tactical military vehicles (NTVs or sometimes called TMP for Transportation Motor Pool) vehicles have plates. Tactical vehicles (HMMWVs, CUCVs, M35 Deuce-and-a-halfs, etc) have bumper numbers that are painted on that correspond to the unit. Sometimes units obscure bumper numbers for security reasons. When I was in Germany we went on an exercise once where we had to paint over part of the bumper numbers identifying our vehicles as belonging to the 1st Armored Division because there were Soviet military observers around (SMLM - Soviet Military Liaison Mission.)

Bonus question: Who still has their SMLM card? I have mine! :D

I have mine and I was also with 1AD and remember when we had to paint our bumper markings over during an exercise. Bamberg 1986-1987