View Full Version : Ben carson is now OUT of the Running for president
Great-Kazoo
10-25-2015, 13:09
For those who liked the guy. he just withdrew from the race.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ben-carson-would-love-to-see-roe-v-wade-154434805.html
These folks don't get it. STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM and WOMB. What you feel personally i can respect. When you're running for office, ESPECIALLY POTUS. You sneeze the wrong way the media & critics run with it.
Keep making statements the D's can use to further their agenda, does nothing but keep us out of the WH, again.
Where in your link to that revulsive, progressive, POS Yahoo "News", did it indicate he withdrew?
mtnrider
10-25-2015, 14:46
Where in your link to that revulsive, progressive, POS Yahoo "News", did it indicate he withdrew?
I'm not seeing it either? No one else is reporting it that I can tell?
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He is saying it is political suicide to believe that abortion is wrong. He is a Doctor and he will be vilified for believing human life is not to be taken from the womb.
The meds have kicked in... He's seeing shit again
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It is refreshing to hear a candidate take a stance on polarizing issues. I hope Dr. Carson's stance is genuine and not based on the audience he was speaking to to garner support.
Other than nominating Supreme Court justices, Presidents don't have a great deal of impact on the issue of abortion. They have a platform to speak, but I don't think many citizens within the electorate don't already have an opinion on abortion. Candidates who take a stance have to understand that for all the support they receive for siding one way or the other will cost them support from others who disagree.
IMO, as a pediatric neurosurgeon, Dr. Carson would have a unique perspective on the issue of when life begins. I have always wondered how abortion providers, who are medical doctors, rationalize their work with the Hippocratic Oath and the doctrine of primum nil nocere - "first, do no harm."
Great-Kazoo
10-25-2015, 15:40
Where in your link to that revulsive, progressive, POS Yahoo "News", did it indicate he withdrew?
I'm not seeing it either? No one else is reporting it that I can tell?
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See markco's reply I guess w/out the SARCASM icon folks get lost.
He is saying it is political suicide to believe that abortion is wrong. He is a Doctor and he will be vilified for believing human life is not to be taken from the womb.
Gcompact30
10-25-2015, 15:48
LMFAO my thoughts as well.... I just hope the she devil don't win the nomination....
The meds have kicked in... He's seeing shit again
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I like what he said, however, he just shot himself in the foot as far as alot of people who don't respect life are concerned.
I would still vote for him.
IMO, as a pediatric neurosurgeon, Dr. Carson would have a unique perspective on the issue of when life begins. I have always wondered how abortion providers, who are medical doctors, rationalize their work with the Hippocratic Oath and the doctrine of primum nil nocere - "first, do no harm."
Their rationalization is - they kill the baby and they get paid, that is all they need. Harm, what harm, they got paid. Typical liberals, the ends (getting paid) justify the means (murdering babies).
68Charger
10-25-2015, 16:16
Here's my theory- now that the "great divider" can't run for a 3rd term, we now have each side going farther apart... The Dems are leaning towards Sanders (an unapologetic socialist), and conservatives see the appeal of a unapologetic right-to-life candidate who's literally a brain surgeon.
Now that they've succeeded in dividing this country worse than ever before, each side is now looking for candidates that are not moderate, but as far away from our opposition as possible.
I'm no sociologist, but that's my take at this freak show election.
Problem is, I think there are far too many takers and they'll put a socialist in office- plus the Dems will lie, cheat and steal whatever votes they can in order to win.
ETA- I didn't get it at first, but I saw where Kazoo was going... and Yahoo is a horrible news site- it even looks like a freakin' tabloid.
Bailey Guns
10-25-2015, 16:37
I don't think what he said is going to hurt him at all...at least not among anyone who isn't a committed leftist anyway.
When are people going to realize that conservatism wins and those so-called conservatives who are afraid to promote conservative values lose?
I hear so many people bitch that candidate so-n-so isn't conservative enough. Then they bitch when the same candidate talks like a conservative. It's maddening.
I actually watched a bit of that interview this morning. Though I thought Dr Carson could have structured his abortion/Roe v Wade answers a little differently (to avoid giving so much ammo to both sides), I appreciate that he is honest about not compromising his beliefs.
I also wanted to chuck the tv out the window when the comparison was made between Surface to Air Missiles and personal weapons (by the interviewer) during the obviously "Gotcha" tinged 2A portion.
Is he unelectable now? Who's to say.
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Wuuut??? There is a difference between surface to air missiles and personal firearms? When did THAT happen? That is soooo not what MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/NYT/Boston Globe/NPR etc. etc. etc. said!!
See markco's reply I guess w/out the SARCASM icon folks get lost.
I totally get the sarcasm in the thread heading, "Ben carson is now OUT of the Running for president"
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I don't see any sarcasm in the remark ". he just withdrew from the race." when posted with a link.
Ben Carson's statements, whether gaffs or not, are no more polarizing than Trump's. At least he's an honest candidate. For Carson, it's not a matter of being up against the D's at THIS POINT, it's his ability to beat the other R's. When we get down to the D vs R vote, I don't see his beliefs making that big a difference in the vote tally. It's all about winning the independent vote, and my hope and belief is that those I's are smart enough to know he can't change Roe v Wade and the country is worse off with more D leadership.
Zundfolge
10-25-2015, 21:57
The idea that only pro abortion liberals can get elected is stupid. If being a middle of the road moderate who would bend with the fickle winds of polls and the manufactured public opinion espoused by our Democrat run MSM would help Republicans get elected we'd all be posting here about the stupid crap President McCain or President Romney did today.
People are tired of politicians that don't stand for something. Abortion has become damn near a 50-50 issue in this country so coming out against abortion (and in particular the unconstitutional way laws banning it were over ruled by a bunch of oligarchs in black robes) is not going to cost him the election ... in fact standing strongly for something is going to garner him more support.
Since Roe V Wade EVERY Republican President has been pro-life and publicly spoken out against Roe V Wade.
So what are all the glowing and wonderful things the MSM has been or would have been saying about Carson? How can they hate him more than they already do? He's a black conservative ... he is a thing to be scorned and destroyed (even if he came out for free government paid for abortions to the 30th trimester).
nogaroheli
10-25-2015, 22:19
I don't think what he said is going to hurt him at all...at least not among anyone who isn't a committed leftist anyway.
When are people going to realize that conservatism wins and those so-called conservatives who are afraid to promote conservative values lose?
I hear so many people bitch that candidate so-n-so isn't conservative enough. Then they bitch when the same candidate talks like a conservative. It's maddening.
This. Tons of people don't agree with abortion and will be happy to finally have a candidate willing to voice their shared opinion. Thank goodness he's not a milk toast Romney/McCain who conservatives are supposed to accept as the lesser of two evils- who ends up leaving un-inspired voters at home.
https://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=61762&d=1445835543
Aloha_Shooter
10-26-2015, 09:12
The liberal media and uber-liberal bloggers were going to skewer him for something no matter what. Giving honest answers backed by his medical training and solid reasoning can only help him with people who think but are undecided. My Democrat godmother isn't going to support a Republican candidate no matter what s/he says because my godmother -- like many people -- is going to just make up reasons to back up her "feelings" (which in this case are directed by the lies and propaganda put out by the DNC).
What will help Carson is that he says what he does in a low key, non-threatening manner and forces some of those undecideds to really think instead of just react emotionally.
Great-Kazoo
10-26-2015, 09:55
The liberal media and uber-liberal bloggers were going to skewer him for something no matter what. Giving honest answers backed by his medical training and solid reasoning can only help him with people who think but are undecided. My Democrat godmother isn't going to support a Republican candidate no matter what s/he says because my godmother -- like many people -- is going to just make up reasons to back up her "feelings" (which in this case are directed by the lies and propaganda put out by the DNC).
What will help Carson is that he says what he does in a low key, non-threatening manner and forces some of those undecideds to really think instead of just react emotionally.
Unfortunately the Emotional / Professional voter usually turns out en-mass . OR they're being repressed by the uber rich white man who wants everyone that votes to provide ID[pileoshit]
SamuraiCO
10-26-2015, 10:03
i am at least glad that a couple of the Rep candidates are taking on progressives and being unapologetic about it.
Aloha_Shooter
10-26-2015, 10:56
i am at least glad that a couple of the Rep candidates are taking on progressives and being unapologetic about it.
I'll say it again: they are NOT progressive. They stole that label after tarnishing the word "liberal". TR wouldn't have stood for the garbage they are peddling -- there is a big difference between the Square Deal and the New Deal and even more of a difference with the No Deal Obamadrones. These are regressive Stalinists and should be called such every time they try to use "progressive".
SamuraiCO
10-26-2015, 14:49
Agreed. Control the language control the narrative.
I didn't mind Carson's answer a bit.
...being adopted can give you that perspective.
For those who liked the guy. he just withdrew from the race.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ben-carson-would-love-to-see-roe-v-wade-154434805.html
These folks don't get it. STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM and WOMB. What you feel personally i can respect. When you're running for office, ESPECIALLY POTUS. You sneeze the wrong way the media & critics run with it.
Keep making statements the D's can use to further their agenda, does nothing but keep us out of the WH, again.
I agree with everything he said. First he acknowledge the court decision, and second he expressed his view. Based on the court decision, he also recognized that it is not within the office he is seeking to challenge it. I don't like the court decision either; I don't believe anybody has the right to exterminate children.
^^ Unless they come onto your property.
Great-Kazoo
10-29-2015, 16:38
^^ Unless they come onto your property.
With their dog off leash
milwaukeeshaker
10-29-2015, 16:38
Didn't look as if he quit last night at the debate.
Ok, time for me to send him another check.
jhood001
11-18-2015, 03:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gi0bkORUQ
You'll understand Yahoo news better if you pronounce it "Yay-hoo".
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