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68Charger
11-03-2015, 12:41
The reaction-less thrust engine thread lead me to this discovery in a blog mentioned there:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/opinion/miranda-devine-perth-electrical-engineers-discovery-will-change-climate-change-debate/news-story/d1fe0f22a737e8d67e75a5014d0519c6?nk=ad8a9552ce29c4 f6fbfef11f0b25210d-1446575694

Apparently this guy is saying they've all had it wrong with their climate models, and he also states:
“But the political obstacles are massive”.

This would mean that current climate change is possibly politically motivated?

This is the part the left REALLY doesn't want to hear:

“The model architecture was wrong,” he says. “Carbon dioxide causes only minor warming. The climate is largely driven by factors outside our control.”

TFOGGER
11-03-2015, 12:46
Of course global warming is political...politicians generate unbelievable volumes of hot air...

TRnCO
11-03-2015, 13:08
Even NASA has just recently put out a report saying that Antarctic ice is actually growing, faster in some areas than it is melting. Who'd a thought.
Link here.
http://phys.org/news/2015-10-mass-gains-antarctic-ice-sheet.html

Gman
11-03-2015, 13:32
This would mean that current climate change is possibly politically motivated?
Absolutely.

For a model to have any value it must be able to predict into the future with actual results that line up with those predictions. The climate models are nowhere close to the reality.

The IPCC is run by politicians and non-governmental organizations, not scientists. Most of the true scientists dropped out of the IPCC early in the game when their science was put aside for an agenda.

Follow the money. How many of these findings are by "National Academy of XXXXXXX"? The government funding is in making the allegation...not in finding the truth.

Jamnanc
11-03-2015, 13:53
I thought we all agreed not to discuss climate, sexuality, religion, and politics. Wtf.

sellersm
11-03-2015, 14:11
Get the new book by Sheila Zilinsky, "Green Gospel: The New World Religion". She's a friend of mine, it's an excellent, well researched book, and if it means anything, she's being sued over it... http://www.greengospel.ca

vossman
11-03-2015, 14:44
I assume the Green Party is suing her. Sounds like an interesting read.

TRnCO
11-03-2015, 16:57
being sued for putting forth the facts, I'd be willing to bet, and the political powers don't like people who present the facts that contradict the lies they are selling.

sroz
11-03-2015, 19:21
Get the new book by Sheila Zilinsky, "Green Gospel: The New World Religion". She's a friend of mine, it's an excellent, well researched book, and if it means anything, she's being sued over it... http://www.greengospel.ca

Have you read this book? No offense, but some of this is also a bit far out there for me. Reducing the world population to 500 million?

sellersm
11-03-2015, 20:13
Have you read this book? No offense, but some of this is also a bit far out there for me. Reducing the world population to 500 million?

Yes I have. Quotes directly from the sources are in the book backing up all her claims.


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roberth
11-03-2015, 21:31
Have you read this book? No offense, but some of this is also a bit far out there for me. Reducing the world population to 500 million?

I haven't read the book but.....

Why wouldn't the Left murder 6 billion people? Do you really think they've given it a moments thought? Ends (totalitarian global government) justifies the means (murdering 6 billion people) and 500M is a lot easier to control than 6.5B.

Stalin and Mao murdered over 70 million people between the two of them, imagine how many skills and how much revenue were destroyed along with those murders, skills and revenue that could have helped grow those societies. Did Stalin and Mao think of the future, NO, they just wanted any opposition, real or perceived, to be eliminated.

Leftism is self-defeating, at some point there is no incentive to learn, to discover, to invent, to labor, because the Left steals the fruits of all these things without thinking about the future and then the future comes and the leftist society collapses because it destroyed the very things it needs to support itself. That is what we're seeing in Europe and the USA, we're coming to the point where the fruits of our education, ambition, and labor only benefit the state. Education, ambition, and labor become a waste of time for the individual because the Left has destroyed the incentives through taxation and regulation.

The environmental movement is an attack on human life. Telling people that CO2 is a poison is an enormous lie.

WETWRKS
11-03-2015, 21:44
Have you read this book? No offense, but some of this is also a bit far out there for me. Reducing the world population to 500 million?

You want to see what they hold to...look to the Georgia Guidestones.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

roberth
11-03-2015, 22:33
You want to see what they hold to...look to the Georgia Guidestones.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones




Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.



What a bunch of statist horseshit.

Irving
11-03-2015, 22:48
Avoid petty laws and useless officials, until both are needed to strictly control the population.

sroz
11-03-2015, 22:52
I do not trust the libs any more than the next guy. Their beliefs are one thing. Tell me how they plan to eliminate almost 7 billion people. What time frame are they looking at? I'll be adjusting my tin foil.

sellersm
11-03-2015, 22:57
I do not trust the libs any more than the next guy. Their beliefs are one thing. Tell me how they plan to eliminate almost 7 billion people. What time frame are they looking at? I'll be adjusting my tin foil.

2030 is a start. Look at the "new" Agenda 2030 from the UN. It's actually a repackaged Agenda 21 but just as deadly.

They have many, many ways. Ignore it to your own peril...

sroz
11-03-2015, 23:09
What's the plan to combat this and who is leading it?

DavieD55
11-04-2015, 05:25
What's the plan to combat this and who is leading it?


http://americanpolicy.org/agenda21/

Skip
11-04-2015, 08:38
John Holdren (Obama's science czar) had some great ideas...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/21/obamas-science-czar-considered-forced-abortions-sterilization-population-growth/


To help achieve those goals, they formulate a "world government scheme" they call the Planetary Regime, which would administer the world's resources and human growth, and they discuss the development of an "armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force" to which nations would surrender part of their sovereignty./

[snip]

Holdren and the Ehrlichs offer ideas for "coercive," "involuntary fertility control," including "a program of sterilizing women after their second or third child," which doctors would be expected to do right after a woman gives birth."Unfortunately," they write, "such a program therefore is not practical for most less developed countries," where doctors are not often present when a woman is in labor.

In typical Lib form, they subjectively impose population controls on "developed" countries. Picking winners and losers. No different than the current economic system that punishes middle class citizens for having children/starting families but rewards immigrants with social programs.

This is who and what Libs are. Why do you think they want us disarmed?

And don't go thinking you'll be okay because you've already been born. They have a plan for us too. They have a plan for everything.