A Thin-Skinned Minority Is Ruining This Nation

[roberth]

In a time where college students are offended by pretty much everything, The Federalist Papers reports (http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/professors-epic-class-intro-has-gone-viral-heres-why) that one professor at UNC-Wilmington decided to cut through the rhetoric and let his students know that they aren’t the special snowflakes liberals and their parents would have them believe.
His epic class introduction has gone viral, and for good reason: this is the most common sense lecture to come out of any college in a long time.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-07/thin-skinned-minority-ruining-nation-professor-crushes-political-correctness-wave-sw



Welcome back to class, students! I am Mike Adams your criminology professor here at UNC-Wilmington. Before we get started with the course I need to address an issue that is causing problems here at UNCW and in higher education all across the country. I am talking about the growing minority of students who believe they have a right to be free from being offended. If we don’t reverse this dangerous trend in our society there will soon be a majority of young people who will need to walk around in plastic bubble suits to protect them in the event that they come into contact with a dissenting viewpoint. That mentality is unworthy of an American. It’s hardly worthy of a Frenchman.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Great find. I particularly like


One of my grandfathers served in World War I. My step-grandfather served in World War II. My sixth great grandfather enlisted in the American Revolution when he was only thirteen. These great men did not fight so we could simply relinquish our rights to the enemy within our borders. That enemy is the Marxists who run our public universities. If you are a Marxist and I just offended you, well, that’s tough. I guess they don’t make communists like they used to.

and


Unbelievably, a student once complained to the Department chairwoman that my mention of God and a Creator was a violation of Separation of Church and State. Let me be as clear as I possibly can: If any of you actually think that my decision to paraphrase the Declaration of Independence in the course syllabus is unconstitutional then you suffer from severe intellectual hernia.
Indeed, it takes hard work to become stupid enough to think the Declaration of Independence is unconstitutional.

[NoahSki]

Great find. I just bookmarked the page for the next time I get in an argument with some sensitive liberal pussy that I offend. Thanks roberth

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[roberth]

Glad to help.

This wussification of the good ol' USA is very irritating, thankfully I'm too old to care anymore so I just say what I want and let the chips fall where they may.

[KS63]

Heard about this on Glenn Beck's radio program today. Good stuff.

[HoneyBadger]

I'm offended that you would even have the gall to post this garbage on the internet! SHAME ON YOU!

[SamuraiCO]

See Mizzu. Current thin skinned minorities getting all upset about nothing.

[TheGrey]

Excellent! I'm glad that this has gone viral.

[Great-Kazoo]

Heard about this on Glenn Beck's radio program today. Good stuff.

He's still around ? Figured those tears dehydrated him so much he dried up and blew away.

[Aloha_Shooter]

He's still around ? Figured those tears dehydrated him so much he dried up and blew away.

Beck's radio program was always better than his TV program -- possibly because he didn't feel compelled to pull a Boehner over the radio. I always felt he had a better theory and understanding of the Constitution than the two most recent Democrat presidents who had been touted for teaching Constitutional law.

[Gman]

Political Correctness offends me.

[HoneyBadger]

Political Correctness offends me.
Your offense offends me.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I am offended by anyone who is offended by words, stickers, or flags but requires me to observe their right to say whatever they want, however they want, because they're part of the self-appointed politically correct elite. I am further offended by anyone who doesn't like me bringing up 40 years of documented lies and official malfeasance on the part of Hillary Clinton while trying to skewer Ben Carson for something stupid said at a graduation ceremony 30 years ago. Morons who believe in feelings over thinking offend me.

To paraphrase Dirty Harry (because the exact quote would get me banned): I hate you all.

[Coffee]

[asmo]

One person pushing for special status based upon a theocracy, upset by others wanting special status based upon cultural bias.

*sigh*

[Great-Kazoo]

Beck's radio program was always better than his TV program -- possibly because he didn't feel compelled to pull a Boehner over the radio. I always felt he had a better theory and understanding of the Constitution than the two most recent Democrat presidents who had been touted for teaching Constitutional law.

Our dogs are more knowledgeable with the Constitution than most democratic presidents, OR democrats.

[roberth]

Brownie is talking about this right now. [LOL]

[RonMexico]

I need to find this guy and buy him a beer [Beer]

[Irving]

Is this in response to the stuff going on in Missouri?

[roberth]

I don't know, all I know is I'm watching to see where this shit goes. In the meantime I'm going to laugh at the SJW antics and watch the craven cowardice of the liberal left as it panders to these asshats.

[Gman]

Is this in response to the stuff going on in Missouri?
It's going on all over the place.

Penn & Teller had a Bullshit! episode about "Sensitivity Training" over 5 years ago that highlighted this intolerance in colleges.

Might be offensive to some...

http://youtu.be/U2h6v01FlU4

[porfiriozg]

Nice

[cstone]

I long for a time when we will no longer judge a person by the color of their skin, but rather the thickness of that skin. [Coffee]

[ray1970]

Higher education might teach book smarts but it seldom teaches common sense.

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't know, all I know is I'm watching to see where this shit goes. In the meantime I'm going to laugh at the SJW antics and watch the craven cowardice of the liberal left as it panders to these asshats.

Well it's almost winter. So those special snowflakes might have some longevity. It's rather humorous to see the Left eat their own, over who's more "sensitive" to the plight of others.


I long for a time when we will no longer judge a person by the color of their skin, but rather the thickness of that skin. [Coffee]

Eye C what U did There. IT'S GOOD TO BE A MOD

https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M72d989fc43f2b291a5f8aca0424e85ado2&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

[Gman]

It's rather humorous to see the Left eat their own, over who's more "sensitive" to the plight of others.
That's it! We're missing out on a great marketing angle here! We need to sell a colored ribbon that outwardly demonstrates that they care more.

...nevermind. It's already been done.

[brutal]

Thanks for making this a thread.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/152313-The-End-is-Near?p=1926921&viewfull=1#post1926921

[roberth]

I long for a time when we will no longer judge a person by the color of their skin, but rather the thickness of that skin. [Coffee]

Excellent! :)

[ZERO THEORY]

Who rated this thread 1 star? Good on him. It makes sense that someone who teaches criminology (IE: has had to deal with real world crimes and social strife) actually wants to teach something useful. At this point, STEM, finance, and Criminal Justice are probably the only fields not taken over by complete idiocy. Anything else involving social or economic theory as opposed to data and research-driven studies is going to have you listening to inane liberal whining.

Warn your kids: liberal arts=no bueno.

[roberth]

Only a 1 star? A one star is terrible. Oh how awful for me and my thread, I'm just crushed, devastated, so unhappy. All the mods should resign because my feels are decimated. All you guys need to chip in and buy me some carbine training classes. BOO-HOO-HOO, oh poor me.

[Great-Kazoo]

or a colored light bulb, that would really show them.

But Not a White one, That would be Racist..

[Aloha_Shooter]

Who rated this thread 1 star? Good on him. It makes sense that someone who teaches criminology (IE: has had to deal with real world crimes and social strife) actually wants to teach something useful. At this point, STEM, finance, and Criminal Justice are probably the only fields not taken over by complete idiocy. Anything else involving social or economic theory as opposed to data and research-driven studies is going to have you listening to inane liberal whining.

Warn your kids: liberal arts=no bueno.

Wait ... we can rate threads?

[ZERO THEORY]

Wait ... we can rate threads?

Underneath the page bar you'll see 'Rate this Thread' in the thread toolbar. The question is: can outsiders hovering our site (read: liberals looking for ammo against us) rate our threads as poor? I'm wondering if someone from the Post or some local rag saw this and got annoyed that there is someone in the collegiate environment not talking about the patriarchy.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Underneath the page bar you'll see 'Rate this Thread' in the thread toolbar. The question is: can outsiders hovering our site (read: liberals looking for ammo against us) rate our threads as poor? I'm wondering if someone from the Post or some local rag saw this and got annoyed that there is someone in the collegiate environment not talking about the patriarchy.

Sorry, should have put a sarcasm emoticon or something. I haven't bothered rating threads, don't see the point. People will go to threads based on known content or poster, intriguing title, or just because they're bored. I bet whoever put a rating on this thread lives half his/her life on Facebook and Twitter ...

[RblDiver]

Awesome, love it! Particularly great to see this in the face of the little fascists trying to silence free speech. http://twitchy.com/2015/11/09/whats-happening-here-irony-of-media-hating-mizzou-protesters-lost-on-dylan-byers/

[HoneyBadger]

Who rated this thread 1 star? Good on him. It makes sense that someone who teaches criminology (IE: has had to deal with real world crimes and social strife) actually wants to teach something useful. At this point, STEM, finance, and Criminal Justice are probably the only fields not taken over by complete idiocy. Anything else involving social or economic theory as opposed to data and research-driven studies is going to have you listening to inane liberal whining.

Warn your kids: liberal arts=no bueno.
Very true - That's why every single college or university has a core curriculum that includes some form of liberal artsy and "social studies" type classes to indoctrinate all the freshman. Gotta rope them in while they're still young and impressionable!

I know this has been discussed here before, but I'd wager that 90+% of college degrees that are not STEM or technical training are a waste of money. Womens' studies? Zoology? Anthropology? Music? Photojournalism? [Shake] Try something like Engineering, finance, accounting, law, medical, or computer/network security.

[HoneyBadger]

I don't know who rated it with only 1 star, but I'm going to hijack their cause for profit.







- - 5 star voters are the corrupt elite! We don't need more corruption, we need change!
- - -Don't support the 1%! VOTE FOR CHANGE!
- - - - - - -VOTE 1 STAR for THIS THREAD!

[JohnnyDrama]

I know this has been discussed here before, but I'd wager that 90+% of college degrees that are not STEM or technical training are a waste of money. Womens' studies? Zoology? Anthropology? Music? Photojournalism? [Shake] Try something like Engineering, finance, accounting, law, medical, or computer/network security.

As someone with an anthropology degree, I whole heartedly agree. I'd further wager that many of these programs exist to further the cause of higher edumacation/increase the university's coffers. Many of these degrees have a very select field of applicable occupations and jobs are highly competitive. Unfortunately, many of the people drawn to these jobs are intimidated by the prospects of having to compete for anything.

[Great-Kazoo]

As someone with an anthropology degree, I whole heartedly agree. I'd further wager that many of these programs exist to further the cause of higher edumacation/increase the university's coffers. Many of these degrees have a very select field of applicable occupations and jobs are highly competitive. Unfortunately, many of the people drawn to these jobs are intimidated by the prospects of having to compete for anything.

Why compete. They're entitled to any job they desire.

[JohnnyDrama]

Why compete. They're entitled to any job they desire.

There's always that. But I misspoke in the above post. I meant to say programs/majors rather than jobs. Many have little to no idea what they are going to do if/when they graduate.

[roberth]

There's always that. But I misspoke in the above post. I meant to say programs/majors rather than jobs. Many have little to no idea what they are going to do if/when they graduate.

Especially if they get their way and college is "free", can you say permanent student who lives in a dorm and just goes to school instead of working.

[Gman]

Many have little to no idea what they are going to do if/when they graduate.
I'm well into my career and I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up.

[ZERO THEORY]

Why compete. They're entitled to any job they desire.

I've never had a more WTF moment than seeing an Occupy protester with a sign that read (paraphrasing): 'My women's studies degree is just as valid as any other'. When the Fukushima disaster happened, you know what Japan needed? Chemical engineers, underwater welders, crane operators, and nuclear physicists. You know what they didn't need? Diatribes about the negative influence of western sexualization.

I don't know what makes these people think that a degree with no quantitative research experience entitles them to run public programs. Don't want a degree? Learn a trade. But they really should stop acting like the world owes them a living just because.

[Great-Kazoo]

I've never had a more WTF moment than seeing an Occupy protester with a sign that read (paraphrasing): 'My women's studies degree is just as valid as any other'. When the Fukushima disaster happened, you know what Japan needed? Chemical engineers, underwater welders, crane operators, and nuclear physicists. You know what they didn't need? Diatribes about the negative influence of western sexualization.

I don't know what makes these people think that a degree with no quantitative research experience entitles them to run public programs. Don't want a degree? Learn a trade. But they really should stop acting like the world owes them a living just because.

While it may be valid. The question is Does my Degree make me MARKETABLE in the real world and earn a living, out side the educational system ? If it's NO perhaps they should OCCUPY WORK QUALIFICATIONS , before going in to debt.

[Irving]

I don't know what makes these people think that a degree with no quantitative research experience entitles them to run public programs. Don't want a degree? Learn a trade. But they really should stop acting like the world owes them a living just because.

Because that's the line they've been fed they're entire life. "Go to college so you can get a good job." How many job applications specify that college is a requirement? My work place recently lightened up on the degree requirement when they couldn't hire a lady away from being a manager at Chili's because she made 10-20k more than what my company was going to start her at.

So now, all the people who have been administrative assistants for years and years without a degree were allowed to apply to be adjusters. It actually sucks for those people because they've been waiting for an opportunity for years and years and they could probably have gone and made more money somewhere else.

[ZERO THEORY]

While it may be valid. The question is Does my Degree make me MARKETABLE in the real world and earn a living, out side the educational system ? If it's NO perhaps they should OCCUPY WORK QUALIFICATIONS , before going in to debt.

This is an excellent point. To expand: the degree is your pre-requisite. The board/association/city/state/federal certifications are what allow you to keep your job, and grow as an employee/director/business owner. Engineers with no certs=as useful as soldiers with no weapons training.

The first thing I learned was that you'll only use the very basics of mathematics and natural science in my field. The rest will all be learning new software, testing methods, and gaining niche certs. This is true of my field (geotechnical eng.) as well as my cousin's (Comp. Sci & El. Eng.) and father's (formerly Comm.Eng. and now radiology consulting). Everyone learns to use CAD in school, not everyone can pass the ICC soils cert.

[hollohas]

The University has officially requested that students call the POLICE if someone SAYS something mean. No shit. They are adults, right?

Nation of sissies.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/university-of-missouri-police-ask-students-to-repo/

[Aloha_Shooter]

Just saw the full video of the "students" and Assistant Professor Melissa Click pushing back on student reporters who were trying to cover the protest at the University of Missouri. The parents of those students should be very concerned about the kind of thuggery and lack of respect demonstrated. It's sad but the "education" being given to college students these days doesn't deserve to be put in the same class as teaching preschoolers how to tie their shoes much less what has traditionally been deemed a college education.

[hatidua]

I know this has been discussed here before, but I'd wager that 90+% of college degrees that are not STEM or technical training are a waste of money. Womens' studies? Zoology? Anthropology? Music? Photojournalism? [Shake] Try something like Engineering, finance, accounting, law, medical, or computer/network security.

The world would be an incredibly boring place if every single college student pursued nothing but STEM degrees. Yes, they are all the rage right now but nearly all degrees, to some extent, are cyclical.

When I was in college, there was a purported shortage of dentists and thus a number of my classmates went pre-dent. Fast-forward ten years and there was an absolute glut of dentists, to the extent that a DDS could barely get you a job making denture molds. Similarly, there was a time when there were so many lawyers/physical therapists/nurses that there simply weren't enough jobs to cover everyone that had a degree in those fields. A close friend of mine has been a software engineer since the late 80's and is at the top of his game, can go/work most anywhere. However, he says more and more of that field is being outsourced to Southern Asia, primarily India right now.

Go get a STEM degree, but the hot degree right now is not going to necessarily be the shining star in five years that it is right now.

(Disclaimer, I'm the child of a vertebrate zoologist, spouse of an anthropologist, and I'm a photographer….that hit's nearly every one of the 'worthless' degrees! :p)

[Great-Kazoo]

The world would be an incredibly boring place if every single college student pursued nothing but STEM degrees. Yes, they are all the rage right now but nearly all degrees, to some extent, are cyclical.

When I was in college, there was a purported shortage of dentists and thus a number of my classmates went pre-dent. Fast-forward ten years and there was an absolute glut of dentists, to the extent that a DDS could barely get you a job making denture molds. Similarly, there was a time when there were so many lawyers/physical therapists/nurses that there simply weren't enough jobs to cover everyone that had a degree in those fields. A close friend of mine has been a software engineer since the late 80's and is at the top of his game, can go/work most anywhere. However, he says more and more of that field is being outsourced to Southern Asia, primarily India right now.

Go get a STEM degree, but the hot degree right now is not going to necessarily be the shining star in five years that it is right now.

(Disclaimer, I'm the child of a vertebrate zoologist, spouse of an anthropologist, and I'm a photographer….that hit's nearly every one of the 'worthless' degrees! :p)

But you can take great pictures, while fly fishing. Or borrowing handicap carts ;)

[Great-Kazoo]

I believe the OP should have the mods change the title of this thread to

A THIN SKINNED MINORITY IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY........................................... .. IN TO THE GROUND.

[hatidua]

But you can take great pictures, while fly fishing. Or borrowing handicap carts ;)

-alas, I'm far too trusting...

[ZERO THEORY]

Go get a STEM degree, but the hot degree right now is not going to necessarily be the shining star in five years that it is right now.


In a sense, yes. Mech. E. used to be the wave of the future with manufacturing. Nowadays, it's the STEM equivalent of a Business Admin. degree; lots of people getting them "easily". However, Mech. E. is still recruited by downstream petro, manufacturing, drilling, geotech, civil, and really any other field you can think of because they have a solid base of fluid mechanics, thermo, and machine physics. It may not be the golden ticket anymore, but it's still a foot in the door for $50K. Get the certs like I mentioned and watch your stock climb.

There's a big rift between the applied mathematics, computer science, physics, and engineering fields and the plain jain natural sciences. Electrical, Chemical, and Comp. Science are basically bulletproof. Assuming you can expand your credentials regularly. You don't want to be like the old school computer programmers that never bothered learning C and got left in the dust.

[HoneyBadger]

The world would be an incredibly boring place if every single college student pursued nothing but STEM degrees. Yes, they are all the rage right now but nearly all degrees, to some extent, are cyclical.

When I was in college, there was a purported shortage of dentists and thus a number of my classmates went pre-dent. Fast-forward ten years and there was an absolute glut of dentists, to the extent that a DDS could barely get you a job making denture molds. Similarly, there was a time when there were so many lawyers/physical therapists/nurses that there simply weren't enough jobs to cover everyone that had a degree in those fields. A close friend of mine has been a software engineer since the late 80's and is at the top of his game, can go/work most anywhere. However, he says more and more of that field is being outsourced to Southern Asia, primarily India right now.

Go get a STEM degree, but the hot degree right now is not going to necessarily be the shining star in five years that it is right now.

(Disclaimer, I'm the child of a vertebrate zoologist, spouse of an anthropologist, and I'm a photographer….that hit's nearly every one of the 'worthless' degrees! :p)
Yes and no. Successful people will always find ways to reach success. They create opportunities for themselves instead of waiting for an opportunity to come along. These people will always be in demand, no matter what their chosen field of study is. It's all the non-contributing zeros that are the real problem.

[BPTactical]

As much as I despise J Ventura: "A bunch of slack jawed faggots"

[Aloha_Shooter]

I don't believe any degree is in and of itself worthless but there are lots of people taking them who are worthless. The girl/woman previously mentioned with the sign about her women's studies degree is a great example. Her degree is only worth as much as a biomedical or engineering or even photography degree if she does something to make it worthwhile to others. Someone who studies nuclear engineering in school but has no idea how to apply it to make peoples' lives better is probably just as worthless.

Now, the odds are that someone taking a hard science or truly intellectually rigorous topic is more likely to do something that makes peoples' lives better or is more likely to get a well-paying job but that's not a universal truth.

[ZERO THEORY]

Found this little gem:

https://youtu.be/xRlRAyulN4o

[TFOGGER]

Found this little gem:

https://youtu.be/xRlRAyulN4o

College campuses have become small enclaves of fantasy, surrounded by the real world. How do these entitled idiots not comprehend that one's rights END when they infringe on the rights of another? The reporter was in a public space, where the retards protesting had absolutely ZERO authority or expectation of privacy. The woman that assaulted the reporter taking the video should be arrested(and preferably drowned to ensure she doesn't reproduce).

[MAP]

Here is a great video on "Higher Educayshun"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

[hatidua]

College campuses have become small enclaves of fantasy, surrounded by the real world.

I don't think that's necessary a new phenomenon. And, sadly, I don't think it's limited to college campuses: a very high percentage of people I come into contact with who are under 30 or so seem to have a very rainbow/unicorn view of the world that comes complete with built-in entitlement syndrome at no extra charge.

[hatidua]

Here is a great video on "Higher Educayshun"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

That, is fantastic!

[BigBear]

A music degree is useless?!?!?! I'm offended.
/Sarcasm off.


Great video.

There are some of us fighting the good fight in "edjumakation".

[Great-Kazoo]

A music degree is useless?!?!?! I'm offended.
/Sarcasm off.


Great video.

There are some of us fighting the good fight in "edjumakation".

It's useless if one believes that degree will get them a job @ Honeywell , Or a welding & fab shop. It's great for those such as yourself who have a plan and know or hope where said plan will take them in life.

[hollohas]

It's useless if one believes that degree will get them a job @ Honeywell , Or a welding & fab shop. It's great for those such as yourself who have a plan and know or hope where said plan will take them in life.
And it's almost certainly never worth $100k in student loans...

[Great-Kazoo]

And it's almost certainly never worth $100k in student loans...

That's ones personal choice and not my problem. You want that piece of paper, you have to pay for it.

IMO the direction America is falling. Soon no one will need a degree or student loan debt. IF the Unions and ENTITLEMENT legislatures get their way. Everyone will want to work for the Clown, the King, or some small inbred dog. Why go to school when flipping burgers will start you @ $15 per. WITHOUT A $100k loan on ones back. [Mad]

SIGN ME UP.

WELCOME TO THE CLOWNS will that be paid for by Credit or EBT Card

[hollohas]

My problem with spending that kind of money on a degree that will NEVER get you a job that can pay off the debt is that one of these days the student debt is going to become the next "housing crisis" and that will severely damage the economy even more.

How is writing a mortgage with no down payment for $300k on a house that's worth $225k considered a risky loan however writing an unsecured student loan with no down payment for $100k+ to pay for a degree that can only lead to a $25k a year job be considered an investment in the future of this country?

I'm going on the record here. The next bailout will be student loan "forgiveness" on a massive scale. Students far and wide are going to default on their loans and will have to be bailed out...the feds own somewhere just south of $1T in outstanding student loans...

EDIT: to add a few more scary figures. Student loan debt makes up 10% of the total consumer debt in this country. Total student loan debt is $1.19T. 11.5% of which is seriously delinquent past 90 days. Even though student loan debt is only 10% of the total consumer debt, seriously delinquent student loan debt totals 1/3 of ALL the 90+ day delinquent consumer debt in the USA.

However, only about half of the student loans are in repayment currently, so in actuality, 23% of the loans currently in repayment are delinquent past 90 days.

How are student loans even an option with that kind of risk?

[Gman]

http://www.standupamericaus.org/sua/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Idiocracy-e1372009319430.jpg

[TFOGGER]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/11/mizzou-professor-in-viral-video-resigns-from-courtesy-position/


The University of Missouri professor seen in a viral video trying to prevent a photographer from covering campus protests resigned her "courtesy" appointment with the journalism school on Wednesday -- however, university administrators were circling the wagons and not commenting further on her employment status within the College of Arts and Sciences.
Melissa Click resigned her courtesy appointment as journalism school faculty members were in the act of reviewing the appointment, the School of Journalism announced in a statement. The school noted that Click “never had a teaching role at the School.”

[ZERO THEORY]

Here is a great video on "Higher Educayshun"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

I think I've told this story before, but in case you missed it:

During one of my required social-based liberal arts courses, I was asked to write a paper about a topic of my choosing. The only requisite was that it addressed sexuality, gender or some similar social identifier. So I wrote about how the modern male had become emasculated. I made the point that in the 70s, working in a steel mill was enough to earn a man enough to live on and be comfortable with himself. Work ethic, local pride, and the ability to overcome physical and mental challenges presented in a hard-working environment were as much a payment as the salary. I then pointed out that nowadays "men" are rarely able to perform manual tasks, defend themselves, or be self-sufficient. Society encourages feminine dress, grooming, and behavior.

Worth noting is that this paper was to be read by all of my classmates, or read aloud to them at my discretion. I don't clam up from speaking in public (self-confidence is also quickly fading nowadays), so I elected to read it out. When I did so, not a peep was spoken to me, other than a former 03XX Marine giving me a "Nice, man." But before the next class, the professor pulled me aside and said that roughly half the class had complained to her AND the dean about my paper. This happened a few years back, so I wasn't expelled, however I can't imagine that I'd fare as well in 2015 with the new age of PC and Tumblr "activism".

Long story short, these social justice "warriors" didn't even have the guts to tell me to my face that they found what I said offensive. They had to run and find an adult to complain to because God forbid someone in a college environment says something they don't like.

[speedysst]

I dont know what you all are worried about with student debt. Bernie will give everyone a college education for FREE!! Everything is FREE with BERNIE!

[Aloha_Shooter]

I don't think that's necessary a new phenomenon. And, sadly, I don't think it's limited to college campuses: a very high percentage of people I come into contact with who are under 30 or so seem to have a very rainbow/unicorn view of the world that comes complete with built-in entitlement syndrome at no extra charge.

Not new but it has become an increasingly worse problem as government's funding of and role in "education" has increased.


It's useless if one believes that degree will get them a job @ Honeywell , Or a welding & fab shop. It's great for those such as yourself who have a plan and know or hope where said plan will take them in life.

Agreed. Not everyone has an aptitude for STEM subjects and the world would be very boring if everyone pursued STEM. J.R.R. Tolkien was a professor of English but his work has done as much as any engineer or scientist to bring lighten peoples' lives. I enjoy most of Spielberg's films even if I disagree with his politics. What irks me is people "studying" a subject that clearly has little practical utility then complaining that they can't find a job or that they make less than an engineer who probably spent 50-100% more time in actual study and hard academic work (or plumber/mechanic/electrician who paid his/her dues as an apprentice and journeyman to learn a skilled trade).


I'm going on the record here. The next bailout will be student loan "forgiveness" on a massive scale. Students far and wide are going to default on their loans and will have to be bailed out...the feds own somewhere just south of $1T in outstanding student loans...

Unfortunately, it already has become the next bailout as Obama started the "free college education" mantra 2 years ago and Hillary is repeating this unaffordable nonsense. What the Dems really want is to keep their ideology mills corrupting impressionable minds.


During one of my required social-based liberal arts courses, I was asked to write a paper about a topic of my choosing. The only requisite was that it addressed sexuality, gender or some similar social identifier. So I wrote about how the modern male had become emasculated. I made the point that in the 70s, working in a steel mill was enough to earn a man enough to live on and be comfortable with himself. Work ethic, local pride, and the ability to overcome physical and mental challenges presented in a hard-working environment were as much a payment as the salary. I then pointed out that nowadays "men" are rarely able to perform manual tasks, defend themselves, or be self-sufficient. Society encourages feminine dress, grooming, and behavior.

What, no trigger warning? You evil male dominator! You clearly haven't absorbed the lessons of the 90s and 00s in acknowledging your privilege.

[Beer]

[Great-Kazoo]

Long story short, these social justice "warriors" didn't even have the guts to tell me to my face that they found what I said offensive. They had to run and find an adult to complain to because God forbid someone in a college environment says something they don't like.

That's like rule # 2 or 3 in their special snowflake playbook.
As with anything else that OFFENDS THEM. It's always someone else (The Government, authority figure) they want to do Their dirty work. Not actually face one they disagree with OH NO.
That would mean they would have to Man, or Woman up. Explain why They were Offended, made to feel uncomfortable etc. Never happen as long as there's an authority figure to hold their hand.

AS i've said before (blatantly copied from someone else)

The Government should Remove ALL WARNING LABELS and Let Nature Decide.

[ZERO THEORY]

Let Nature Decide.

Can you imagine? Just think of all the gluten-free wackos trying to grow their own crops or trade for goods. Better yet, just imagine them trying to fight off animals or men in a state of nature. Hilarious.

[Skip]

I don't have much to add, I agree with most of what's been posted, other than this...

Consider that these special snowflakes (not all of them millennials btw) are entering the workforce and these ideas are starting to take root. CYA all the time. I've seen careers with long LOS ruined by a special snowflake going to HR or using certain language with management.


ETA: Just saw this tweet by Katherine Timpf that sums it up nicely...


"Hello, boss? My coworker doesn't seem to understand that my emotional state is his responsibility fire him this is my safe space."

Imagine you're the coworker with a wife/kids to support. In that position there is nothing that you can do to redeem yourself because it isn't about work. It's about making the special person the arbiter.

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't have much to add, I agree with most of what's been posted, other than this...

Consider that these special snowflakes (not all of them millennials btw) are entering the workforce and these ideas are starting to take root. CYA all the time. I've seen careers with long LOS ruined by a special snowflake going to HR or using certain language with management.


ETA: Just saw this tweet by Katherine Timpf that sums it up nicely...



Imagine you're the coworker with a wife/kids to support. In that position there is nothing that you can do to redeem yourself because it isn't about work. It's about making the special person the arbiter.

When business have high[er] turn over rates, it still will not sink in. It's a good thing i'm retired, doubt i'd get past the prelim interview.

So Great-Kazoo, how do you feel about safe places in the workplace?

I believe they are a necessary part of any business. Without them, where would one keep their long gun while at work, in the car??
Hell it's bad enough i had to switch to a S.O.B rig for my pistol. That damn IWB was riding up on me like an ex girlfriend in heat. SO ........................You folks provide health benefits after 30 days, correct ?

[PugnacAutMortem]

I'm going on the record here. The next bailout will be student loan "forgiveness" on a massive scale. Students far and wide are going to default on their loans and will have to be bailed out...the feds own somewhere just south of $1T in outstanding student loans...

I'm sure that this is going to get a few of your britches in a bunch, but if someone comes along and offers to forgive my student load debt then I am taking it. Student loans are CRIPPLING my financial situation, and I didn't want them in the first place.

But "society" or whatever you want to call it said I have to get a degree if I want to go anywhere in life...so I went and got one. And I didn't go to some out of state liberal arts college, I started at community college and got some credits since it was cheaper and went on to get my Bachelors in Business Management from Metro State and I STILL have $45k in loans personally (and then add on another $20k from my wife). I did what I was told I HAD to do to get ahead and I'm getting screwed you know where because of it. I've said it here before, but I regret going to college every day. It's not worth starting with such a deficit when you are young and trying to start your life with a wife/kids/house. Student loans are downright predatory, plain and simple.

With all of that said, if someone comes along to offer me student loan forgiveness, I won't let them finish their sentence before accepting it. I could care less where the money comes from, I'm taking it and running. Because if student loans were gone from my life, I could actually start making my money work for me. And then I could work a job for $35k-$40k and it wouldn't be an impossibility to live on.

[TheGrey]

I have often reflected on one of the greatest lessons that I ever learned from my shop Chief when I was stationed overseas.

"You are responsible for your own morale."

[Dave_L]

Oooooo....fun! Let's play the "Forgive my _________ debt!" game. Can we forgive people's credit card debt too? I'm sure that's crippling for people and they were told that you need credit cards for credit! What about car loans? Those put a big dent in my expendable income and everyone said I had to have a car for a job and to get places.

What about all the people that have paid their school loans off? Do they get a refund check now? School was a choice, no matter who told you what. Same as every debt that someone has. They willingly signed/agreed to whatever that debt is.

[hollohas]

But "society" or whatever you want to call it said I have to get a degree if I want to go anywhere in life...so I went and got one.

I agree that's the problem. We shouldn't tell everybody they need to go to college. That's complete BS.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Oooooo....fun! Let's play the "Forgive my _________ debt!" game. Can we forgive people's credit card debt too? I'm sure that's crippling for people and they were told that you need credit cards for credit! What about car loans? Those put a big dent in my expendable income and everyone said I had to have a car for a job and to get places.

What about all the people that have paid their school loans off? Do they get a refund check now? School was a choice, no matter who told you what. Same as every debt that someone has. They willingly signed/agreed to whatever that debt is.

I would find it darn near impossible if someone came to you and said "I will forgive your ______ debt" that you wouldn't take it. You'd be stupid not to. I agree that college is a choice, but you don't grow up with your parents/grandparents/teachers/coaches/pastors/boy scout leaders/old lady on the street saying "Now make sure you grow up and get credit cards so you can have good credit!". College is a whole different animal as far as debts go.

[Skip]

When business have high[er] turn over rates, it still will not sink in. It's a good thing i'm retired, doubt i'd get past the prelim interview.
[snip]

Exactly.

The management team that caters to special snowflakes doesn't stick around long enough to be held accountability. They are either Peter Principle'd up or move on.

One of the places I saw with this problem had it's share value cut in half (still sinking as I type). They lost their innovators/workers and are scraping by on 1990's infrastructure. This is a technology company and have become a joke in their vertical--you only do business with them if you are contractually obligated. I could go into details but it was all self-inflicted through Libtard PC culture.

And the best part... The special snowflakes are in the process of being laid off because they are offshoring as much of operations as they can. Oops.

Kind of like a parasite killing itself if/when it kills the host. Same thing with Liberals.

[HoneyBadger]

I'm sure that this is going to get a few of your britches in a bunch, but if someone comes along and offers to forgive my student load debt then I am taking it. Student loans are CRIPPLING my financial situation, and I didn't want them in the first place.

But "society" or whatever you want to call it said I have to get a degree if I want to go anywhere in life...so I went and got one. And I didn't go to some out of state liberal arts college, I started at community college and got some credits since it was cheaper and went on to get my Bachelors in Business Management from Metro State and I STILL have $45k in loans personally (and then add on another $20k from my wife). I did what I was told I HAD to do to get ahead and I'm getting screwed you know where because of it. I've said it here before, but I regret going to college every day. It's not worth starting with such a deficit when you are young and trying to start your life with a wife/kids/house. Student loans are downright predatory, plain and simple.

With all of that said, if someone comes along to offer me student loan forgiveness, I won't let them finish their sentence before accepting it. I could care less where the money comes from, I'm taking it and running. Because if student loans were gone from my life, I could actually start making my money work for me. And then I could work a job for $35k-$40k and it wouldn't be an impossibility to live on.

Britches in a bunch?

You made a bad choice that you have to pay for. If you want someone else to pay for your bad decision, then YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

[kidicarus13]

"You are responsible for your own morale."

...and you are responsible for the decisions that you make- whether or not they turn out to be good decisions or not. It's called LIFE, you live and you learn.

Lessons cost money. Good ones cost lots. -Tony Beets

[PugnacAutMortem]

Britches in a bunch?

You made a bad choice that you have to pay for. If you want someone else to pay for your bad decision, then YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

Did I say I wanted someone to pay for it? No, calm your nips and quit your shouting. I admitted it was a bad choice, you should actually read what I wrote. I said if someone was willing to forgive my student debt then I would take that opportunity. I didn't demand that someone do it. I'm paying for it the best I can. But if it was an option to not pay it then I'm taking it. If you think that makes me a bad person then A) you're wrong and B) I literally couldn't give less of a flying you know what.

[brutal]

Did I say I wanted someone to pay for it? No, calm your nips and quit your shouting. I admitted it was a bad choice, you should actually read what I wrote. I said if someone was willing to forgive my student debt then I would take that opportunity. I didn't demand that someone do it. I'm paying for it the best I can. But if it was an option to not pay it then I'm taking it. If you think that makes me a bad person then A) you're wrong and B) I literally couldn't give less of a flying you know what.

Who's going to pay for it?

Wait, I know, the Feds take as much out of my paycheck as they allow me (maximums) to put away in a retirement account.

So I guess I will be paying for your education. You're welcome.

FWIW, my wife is REQUIRED to improve her education as a requirement of her job. I guess we'll pay hers off later.

[TheGrey]

...and you are responsible for the decisions that you make- whether or not they turn out to be good decisions or not. It's called LIFE, you live and you learn.

Lessons cost money. Good ones cost lots. -Tony Beets

Yep!

[Irving]

I understand what Pugnac is saying. I disagreed with every policy Obama had, but it didn't stop me from taking advantage of great rates on FHA loans.

[Skip]

Who's going to pay for it?

[snip]

He is (along with the rest of us).

He is going to take forgiveness of a finite and fixed liability in exchange for an open-ended tax on his pay, indexed to education inflation (higher than Fed nominal), for the rest of his life (including all retirement income over $24K or whatever the exemption is when he retires).

We just did this with Obamacare. The "free lunch" people got themselves higher premiums, higher copays, and worse care (fewer doctors). They won!

Some people...

[HoneyBadger]

Did I say I wanted someone to pay for it? No, calm your nips and quit your shouting. I admitted it was a bad choice, you should actually read what I wrote. I said if someone was willing to forgive my student debt then I would take that opportunity. I didn't demand that someone do it. I'm paying for it the best I can. But if it was an option to not pay it then I'm taking it. If you think that makes me a bad person then A) you're wrong and B) I literally couldn't give less of a flying you know what.
Please tell me who exactly is going to pay off your debt then? And don't you even dare say that Fannie Mae, out of the goodness of her heart, is going to just forgive you of the debt that you asked for and are obligated to pay. Somebody has to pay it back, and if the government is involved (Hint: It is) then every taxpayer is going to take it up the ass because you don't want to pay back the money you willingly borrowed for a degree that you don't think you want or need.


I understand what Pugnac is saying. I disagreed with every policy Obama had, but it didn't stop me from taking advantage of great rates on FHA loans.
Accepting a "great" rate on a loan is a totally different discussion. We're talking about borrowers who are borrowing at someone else's expense.

Pug, if we were talking about private debt, such as a personal loan from your local credit union, and they offered you forgiveness (which is them acknowledging that you do not have the capacity to pay them back), the story would be different. I'm glad you are not demanding someone pay your bills for you, as many college idiots are at Mizzou right now, but accepting "forgiveness" on federally backed loans just means that all tax payers are going to accept the burden of your unwillingness to pay. Your actions would be directly contributing to the problem, therefore, you are a part of the problem.

Am I a little salty about this? Yes. I found a way to work hard and make a lot of sacrifices to graduate from a public college without any student loans or other debt and I think it's absolute bullshit if somebody else wants me to accept the burden of their debt because they made a poor decision. As I said in post #54 of this thread, "successful people will always find ways to reach success."

[Dave_L]

I understand what Pugnac is saying. I disagreed with every policy Obama had, but it didn't stop me from taking advantage of great rates on FHA loans.

Eh this isn't a great rate for student loans, this is straight up erasing a debt. I guess that would be one way to help encourage the "college should be free" mentality though. Once you erase the debt for some, how do you expect to ask anyone to pay for their schooling?

The "why not" mentality is why people abuse the system. It's not "their" money and if the .gov is handing it out, why not? Everyone hates the government freebie train until it stops at their station.

[Irving]

I can't remember the exact Obama program I was thinking if, but I want to say it was an $8,000 tax write reduction or something. I actually missed the boat on that, so I didn't get it. I'm sure someone will come along who knows what I'm taking about.

I was going to say that there aren't many people who will turn down money, but then I remembered that Pugnac voted to let the government keep excess pot tax money, which I find ironic.

[hollohas]

I can't remember the exact Obama program I was thinking if, but I want to say it was an $8,000 tax write reduction or something. I actually missed the boat on that, so I didn't get it. I'm sure someone will come along who knows what I'm taking about.



A deduction is nothing more than the government NOT taking as much money away from YOU. The $8k was YOUR own money, not someone else's.

[TheGrey]

My daughter is almost finished with college. She will be done next semester. 4 years at DU. $52000 a year or something like that. She will graduate with almost no debt. Why? She worked 3 jobs the last 4 years to make sure she didnt have the debt forever. She didnt party, she didnt eat every meal out, she was frugal. I am so proud of her.

That's awesome. That's how it was supposed to be done. Your daughter is a step ahead of the game! :)

[Great-Kazoo]

I could quote a few replies and tell how our daughter who had a free ride @ CSU. Joined the .mil got married then divorced, paid off her loans. Took college classes through the VA, works for the state and has minimal debt. Along with a decent gun collection, that seems very similar to the guns some one stole from my safe.

INSTEAD i'm going to tell you how next years health care will be that much more affordable.............................In another thread ;)

[HoneyBadger]

I could quote a few replies and tell how our daughter who had a free ride @ CSU. Joined the .mil got married then divorced, paid off her loans. Took college classes through the VA, works for the state and has minimal debt. Along with a decent gun collection, that seems very similar to the guns some one stole from my safe.

INSTEAD i'm going to tell you how next years health care will be that much more affordable.............................In another thread ;)
BAM. Thread is done.

[Gman]

Ran across this today and thought it was pretty good;
For thin-skinned college students, we have nobody to blame but ourselves (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/for-thin-skinned-college-students-we-have-nobody-to-blame-but-ourselves/ar-BBnpuYc?li=BBnb7Kz)

[Great-Kazoo]

Ran across this today and thought it was pretty good;
For thin-skinned college students, we have nobody to blame but ourselves (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/for-thin-skinned-college-students-we-have-nobody-to-blame-but-ourselves/ar-BBnpuYc?li=BBnb7Kz)

Ah yes, the Collective "WE". Individualism is and has been dead for some time.

[brutal]

Ran across this today and thought it was pretty good;
For thin-skinned college students, we, the progressive liberal pansy ass parent, have nobody to blame but ourselves (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/for-thin-skinned-college-students-we-have-nobody-to-blame-but-ourselves/ar-BBnpuYc?li=BBnb7Kz)

Fixed it.

[GilpinGuy]

Hmmmm. A thread was recently deleted from GD. Did the thin skinned...oh forget it.

Edit: before I get a nasty gram: I was going to write, "Did the thin skinnned have an influence there?"

F-it. I'm the bad guy either way now.

[Aloha_Shooter]

http://www.okwu.edu/blog/2015/11/this-is-not-a-day-care-its-a-university/
(http://www.okwu.edu/blog/2015/11/this-is-not-a-day-care-its-a-university/)
This is just a teaser (whole blog entry is worth reading):

This past week, I actually had a student come forward after a university chapel service and complain because he felt “victimized” by a sermon on the topic of 1 Corinthians 13. It appears that this young scholar felt offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him, and his peers, feel uncomfortable.

I’m not making this up. Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic. Any time their feelings are hurt, they are the victims. Anyone who dares challenge them and, thus, makes them “feel bad” about themselves, is a “hater,” a “bigot,” an “oppressor,” and a “victimizer.”

I have a message for this young man and all others who care to listen. That feeling of discomfort you have after listening to a sermon is called a conscience. An altar call is supposed to make you feel bad. It is supposed to make you feel guilty. The goal of many a good sermon is to get you to confess your sins—not coddle you in your selfishness. The primary objective of the Church and the Christian faith is your confession, not your self-actualization.

[Dave_L]

And now you know why there is a push to remove religion. No one wants a conscience.

[Kraven251]

And now you know why there is a push to remove religion. No one wants a conscience.

Pretty sure they don't want a world without a conscience...because chances are high they wouldn't be in it much longer if that was the case.

[roberth]

And now you know why there is a push to remove religion. No one wants a conscience.

The people pushing to remove religion don't think about the consequences but then they probably don't think about the consequences of ANY action they take.


Pretty sure they don't want a world without a conscience...because chances are high they wouldn't be in it much longer if that was the case.

You know they don't and I know they don't but they don't know they don't. Ignorance is bliss until the hammer falls.

[davsel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wse_hgca220

[Dave_L]

Pretty sure they don't want a world without a conscience...because chances are high they wouldn't be in it much longer if that was the case.
Individual conscious* They are all about a societal conscious.

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