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If surrounded by the right staff, I think he can be a damn good QB.
funkymonkey1111
04-07-2016, 12:35
Broncos talking with Johnny Football
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15155074/gary-kubiak-johnny-manziel-talk-fit-denver-broncos
But no plans to sign him. Thank goodness.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/07/broncos-have-no-plans-to-sign-manziel/
I think mark will be the starter. No room to pay a good name qb.
I think now that he's out of football, Elway just wanted to bring him in and let him know who's the real Johnny Football.
So I guess they are going with Sanchez this year and maybe next while Kubiak/Elway can groom Lynch?
So I guess they are going with Sanchez this year and maybe next while Kubiak/Elway can groom Lynch?
Lynch will need to compete with Siemian while Sanchez holds the fort for a year or two...not a bad place for the Broncos moving forward.
Someone tweeted this and its so full of win:
"The Broncos just saved $63 mil on a QB with 7 less starts"
114 million to Von...70 million guaranteed. Wow. For an average of 12 sacks per season.
There's a lot of money in Super Bowl MVP when it happens on a contract year.
funkymonkey1111
08-27-2016, 11:52
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17401815/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-sits-national-anthem-prior-preseason-game
glad the broncos dodged the kaepernick bullet
spqrzilla
08-27-2016, 13:56
66860
Tony Romo manages to hurt himself in the preseason again.
Tony Romo manages to hurt himself in the preseason again.
He's become so fragile that he'll be looking at retirement pretty soon.
He's become so fragile that he'll be looking at retirement pretty soon.
A broken neck didn't stop Manning from sucking all over the field.
A broken neck didn't stop Manning from sucking all over the field.
Still butthurt T-blow didn't carry the team to the playoff gates only to choke?
Two more rings and countless milestones he'll never get.
Circuits
08-28-2016, 02:25
A broken neck didn't stop Manning from sucking all over the field.
Manning >>> Romo
hurley842002
08-28-2016, 06:24
Still butthurt T-blow didn't carry the team to the playoff gates only to choke?
Two more rings and countless milestones he'll never get.
I stopped taking anything pony boy says seriously a long time ago...
Still butthurt T-blow didn't carry the team to the playoff gates only to choke?
Two more rings and countless milestones he'll never get.
How much was Manning paid last year? And how many completions did he throw?
What does it matter? Denver won the SB.
Thanks entirely to the defense.
I do recall Manning pulling some scoring drives straight out of his ass. It wasn't all defense. How many records does Manning have now? I'll save you the hassle of looking it up:
NFL career passing touchdown record: 539
Most passing yards, career: 71,940
Single season touchdown record (2013): 55
Most passing yards, season (2013): 5,477
Most wins (including playoffs): 200
Most games throwing for 300+ yards: 93
Most passing touchdowns in a single game (tied, 2013): 7
Most games with a passing rating higher than 105: 97
Most games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 5
Most seasons with 350+ completions: 10
Most games completing 80-percent passing: 19
Most game-winning drives: 56
Most comeback wins: 45
Highest completion percentage in a postseason game with 450+ yards (2005): 81.8
Highest yards-per-game, season (2013): 342.31
Most games with 4+ touchdown passes: 25
Most seasons passing for 4,000+ yards: 14
Most consecutive seasons with 25+ touchdowns: 13
One of two quarterbacks to ever beat all 32 teams (along with Brett Favre)
First quarterback to beat 31 franchises: 2007
Most Associated Press NFL MVP awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
Face it, Tebow sucks, and will continue to suck even if he plays Major League Baseball like he's scheduled to be trying out for. Bo Jackson he surely is not.
buffalobo
08-28-2016, 11:13
Not much of a Tebow or football fan but there are always more stats to consider.
http://m.gazette.com/commentary-tebow-a-better-bet-than-manning/article/135215
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I look more at how an athlete ended his career rather then started it. And while I think Tebow is a great guy and an honest person, he is not in the same league as Manning. Besides, Peyton's commercials make me laugh....
Besides, Peyton's commercials make me laugh....
If only he'd spent as much time at practice as he did in the studio with Papa John.
sandman76
08-28-2016, 15:27
Manning, Tebow both gone. Dirty Sanchez most likely in the same boat.
Honey Badger282.8
08-28-2016, 15:37
Wait, are there still people on the Tebow train? Great human being but a terrible QB.
Wait, are there still people on the Tebow train? Great human being but a terrible QB.
What made him a terrible QB, in your opinion?
What i would like to see:
Sanchez takes paycut and stay with Broncos.
My prediction: Traded to Cowboys. I don't think Kitna can be a backup on weekend like before. Dak is good in MS State, but who knows in NFL.
Worst: Sanchez gets cut and joins Tebow in minor league tryout. [LOL]
How much was Manning paid last year? And how many completions did he throw?
Manning took a pay cut to help surround himself with winners. He threw enough completions to win another Super Bowl. He was able to retire as a winner. End of story.
What made him a terrible QB, in your opinion?
All the football experts told us he was horrible....
I could live with his funky arm mechanics, I mean all he has ever done is win with that arm, but the speed at which he processed and recognized what was going on out there on the field was what did him in for me.
I love a winner, but I'm not sure I would be willing to sign those big paychecks for a QB that is gonna take big hit after big hit....hard to put a team together around his style of play
Wish him the best....
A Tebow vs. Manning debate? Ya gotta be kidding me.
blacklabel
08-28-2016, 19:11
A Tebow vs. Manning debate? Ya gotta be kidding me.
It's 2012 all over again.
I heard that if Broncos cut Sanchez and he’s not on the opening day roster they don’t have to pay him his contract salary and they don’t lose the draft pick they gave up to get him. They are hoping nobody picks him up and then they will resign him for less money to the practice squad just in case he’s needed.
buffalobo
08-28-2016, 20:53
[Pot][handbags][Poke]
Honey Badger282.8
08-28-2016, 22:17
What made him a terrible QB, in your opinion?
Sub 50% completion ratio despite having one of the shortest yards per attempt averages in the league.
An inability to read defenses, and a run first mentality when his first read isn't open. His athleticism would sometimes pull a good result out of a bad situation but that was rare.
He is just another in a long line of college greats that were unable to make the transition to a pro level offense.
Manning completed 59.8% of his passes. That is an F.
He also succumbed to 17 interceptions and 16 sacks in the 10 regular season games he played. When he ran, he did it for a total of 6 yards lost. Tebow did it for 660 yards gained.
Manning: http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/profile
Tebow: http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/profile
Statistically, Tebow was equal to if not better than Manning in almost every aspect, the one he falls short on was completed passes.
spqrzilla
08-29-2016, 08:06
The Tebow rehash is silly. More amusing is that Elway's supposed genius as GM is quite absent today with the dumpster fire that is the Broncos offense today.
Honey Badger282.8
08-29-2016, 13:05
Manning completed 59.8% of his passes. That is an F.
He also succumbed to 17 interceptions and 16 sacks in the 10 regular season games he played. When he ran, he did it for a total of 6 yards lost. Tebow did it for 660 yards gained.
Manning: http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/profile
Tebow: http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/profile
Statistically, Tebow was equal to if not better than Manning in almost every aspect, the one he falls short on was completed passes.
LOL. Comparing Tebows best year (which wasn't a good year for a QB by any stretch of the imagination) to Mannings worst in an attempt to portray Tebow as the better QB is hilarious. Odd that you bring up Tebows rushing prowess but neglect his sack number, sack yardage, fumbles and fumbles lost. Those were 33, 225, 13 and 6 respectively.
Lets just pretend like 2013 didn't happen for Manning. That was the year that Manning set just about every single season record for a QB.
Wait, are there still people on the Tebow train? Great human being but a terrible QB.
He was a flash in the pan. Good person, but greatness would be his understanding that he was not going to be an NFL starter and switch to a position he could play. Yeah, I know he has a show planned tomorrow. I just hope the Rockies don't sign him.
LOL. Comparing Tebows best year (which wasn't a good year for a QB by any stretch of the imagination) to Mannings worst in an attempt to portray Tebow as the better QB is hilarious. Odd that you bring up Tebows rushing prowess but neglect his sack number, sack yardage, fumbles and fumbles lost. Those were 33, 225, 13 and 6 respectively.
Lets just pretend like 2013 didn't happen for Manning. That was the year that Manning set just about every single season record for a QB.
Makes you wonder what Tebow could accomplish with 17 full seasons. He got 1 and a half and was a pretty good QB.
Honey Badger282.8
08-29-2016, 16:11
Makes you wonder what Tebow could accomplish with 17 full seasons. He got 1 and a half and was a pretty good QB.
The problem with him was that he wasn't making any gains in the football knowledge department, coaches have said this and so have other teammates. This leads to an over simplified offensive scheme that makes the D's job easy. It's like when the Wild Cat surfaced in the NFL, it worked at first but then everyone figured it out and now no one runs it. The other area that he showed no improvement in was his mechanics, the very same mechanics that made his accuracy so sub par.
He had three teams give him a chance and none of them wanted his services. The NFL isn't some charity, he was a great athlete with a very steep learning curve and low ceiling at the most critical position in the NFL, why would any team devote several seasons on a guy so that he might become as good as Vick.
Tebow, what a joke. If the Broncos hadn't sent Cutler away they probably would won another Super Bowl. The idea that Tebow/Orton were better than Jay is the stupid that was Josh McDaniels. I gotta believe New England knew what they were doing on that one....
wctriumph
08-29-2016, 18:36
Fox was not a great coach either.
Honey Badger282.8
08-29-2016, 18:54
Tebow, what a joke. If the Broncos hadn't sent Cutler away they probably would won another Super Bowl. The idea that Tebow/Orton were better than Jay is the stupid that was Josh McDaniels. I gotta believe New England knew what they were doing on that one....
I've always hated Cutler, the Broncos never should have drafted him. Plummer was a more than capable QB who almost took the Broncos to the Super Bowl. Oddly enough, the Pats hired McDumbass right after he was fired by the Broncos.
Makes you wonder what Tebow could accomplish with 17 full seasons. He got 1 and a half and was a pretty good QB.
I try not to.
I guess Broncos is trying to shop Sanchez to Cowboys. (see #282)
I am not a fan of Sanchez, USC nor Pete Carol, but Sanchez might help a team a little. [Obvious but] Seems like Cowboys are needing extra QB more than Broncos does.
Circuits
08-29-2016, 22:31
Clearly, the many superbowl titles won by Jay Cutler with the Bears tell the sad tale of McCoach's mismanagement.
Oh, wait....
Barely... In so many ways... But a wins a win!
Great-Kazoo
09-08-2016, 22:21
Holy shit. 23 min of broncos coverage on all 10p.m news. Do they honestly warrant 20+ minutes of sports coverage during a News 1/2 hhr?
Cj Anderson is a hog. If he stays healthy, MVP.
Honey Badger282.8
09-08-2016, 22:29
Siemian looked really good tonight. One of those INTs was all on him but that tipped ball by the two unblocked D-linemen aren't. I'm glad Kubiak came out and let him rebound nicely.
Holy shit. 23 min of broncos coverage on all 10p.m news. Do they honestly warrant 20+ minutes of sports coverage during a News 1/2 hhr?
I think it's better than the usual propaganda, pro Hitlery and yeah Demonrat crap.
Circuits
09-08-2016, 23:13
Go Broncoooooooooos!
osok-308
09-09-2016, 04:57
Wouldn't matter if they won by 1 or 50. They're now 1-0
ZERO THEORY
09-09-2016, 11:14
http://i.imgur.com/Mn1z9Ld.mp4
So sick of people riding this defense's jock. They're good, but so is Cincinnati. And both units sure do love to play dirty. It's like Talib, Stewart, Ward, and Marshall got together and tried to replicate Burfict and PacMan's energy...by way of headhunting.
Makes you wonder what Tebow could accomplish with 17 full seasons. He got 1 and a half and was a pretty good QB.
False. Pretty good is very generous. Poor mechanics, awful accuracy, unable to diagnose a defensive set, no progressions/reads. He was a good guy, and athletic, but he was never going to be a franchise quarterback.
SamuraiCO
09-09-2016, 12:11
Interesting the narratives coming from the game.
Brandon Marshall kneeling for injustice's when he is part of a league that is well over 60% minorities. He states he is not against military, law enforcement or America but that is just what has restored equality against actions of men (mostly white Democrats) against minorities in the past. It is too bad he is being lead down this path of false narrative. It is not his only platform to make statements or do something. It takes away from the TEAM.
At the same time fans are screaming about Cam on two fronts. One is he is not getting calls like other quarterbacks would when contact is being made. Unfortunately his game play puts him out for just such hits. During the Super Bowl they wanted Cam to stay in the pocket and beat the Broncos with his head, arm and other players on the team. Last night's game it was obvious they wanted him more autonomy to make plays with his feet when the play blew up. More scripted QB runs. That does not excuse the hard hits but players are use to the person with the ball to protect themselves when they realize a hit is coming. Cam kept his head up trying to make something happen. Mix that with all the other rules of when and where the QB can and can not get hit in real time hard hits will go awry. The same thing happened with Rothlessburger at Pittsburgh. He was tuff in the pocket and would fight to the end going down or throwing away. That lead to injuries. He learned the hard way what most other QB's have. Make smart throws to end the play when it blows up. Slide or get out of bounds before getting hit. When everything is bleak go down and protect yourself, protect the ball and take the sack. I was at the game last night. After Cam made his TD he specifically taunted the crowd in the south stands and took a victory lap through the south end zone. Playing back the game on my DVR after the game the network did not show this at all.
The other is he was not granted the concussion protocol during the game. Some in the sports media were outraged Cam was not protected more. Seems no one wanted to be that person to take Cam out at that particular moment in the game. Limbaugh took this to the end game and is correctly stating teams will purposefully take the 15 yard penalty if it means taking out the opposing starting QB with the protocol.
Missing is how strong our run game looked again. Our rookie QB performed well enough to beat the team we faced in SB 50...again. Defense still strong.
I watched the game, and I like the Broncos and the Ownership. Here are my takeways.
1. Approximately 180 players and staff of two NFL franchises respected the National Anthem by standing for it.
2. Siemien has a 69.1 QB Rating in his first game against one of the top 2 or 3 Defenses in the NFL. He made what appeared to be 4 poor decisions, one of which was a 14 point swing.
3. Anderson rushed for 4.6/carry, 0.1 yards under his career average, against one of the top 2 or 3 Defenses in the NFL. The O-Line looked much improved.
4. The Defense, missing two key players from last year, was solid against one of the most unpredictable offenses in the game.
5. If they had lost by 28 to 17, I still think takeaways 1-4 would be valid and it appears the elements in 1-4 stand to improve over the course of the season.
Well, since someone else brought up Cam Newton...
I was actually kind of impressed how well he handled himself in the game last night. First, celebrating after a score doesn't bother me a bit. Also, I didn't notice him complaining about any of the hits he took or lobbying to get some kind of call from the officials.
Definitely had a much more professional attitude than he did in and after the Super Bowl.
The above two posts are right on. Cam played like he wanted that win more than anything. The Broncos were solid.
Honey Badger282.8
09-09-2016, 12:59
Well, since someone else brought up Cam Newton...
I was actually kind of impressed how well he handled himself in the game last night. First, celebrating after a score doesn't bother me a bit. Also, I didn't notice him complaining about any of the hits he took or lobbying to get some kind of call from the officials.
Definitely had a much more professional attitude than he did in and after the Super Bowl.
Agreed. I gained some respect for him last night.
With regard to Cam, as long as he presents himself as an option runner on offence, he will take hits. He can't have it both ways. The defence needs to be able to attack the runners. Ultimately, the hits will take their toll like they do with all running quarterbacks.
I think the Broncos should be pretty happy with how last night went. I am impressed with Siemien's mental toughness.
osok-308
12-04-2016, 15:48
They won today, that combined with the dolphins loss puts them in wild card position today.
Circuits
12-04-2016, 17:03
They won today, that combined with the dolphins loss puts them in wild card position today.
OAK currently getting a buffalo beat-down - if it holds true, then it's all back up for grabs in the west.
Colorado Osprey
12-04-2016, 18:20
OAK currently getting a buffalo beat-down - if it holds true, then it's all back up for grabs in the west.
Well that didn't last long
Circuits
12-04-2016, 18:44
Well that didn't last long
It did not. Fuck.
osok-308
12-05-2016, 00:08
Well, Miami lost. Too bad the competition in the AFC west did too.
Can we start talking about Playoff? [Coffee]
https://youtu.be/p3-eavMSBnk
osok-308
12-06-2016, 17:57
https://youtu.be/p3-eavMSBnk
[ROFL1] I love this clip.
ZERO THEORY
12-06-2016, 19:16
Can we start talking about Playoff? [Coffee]
The Broncos will miss them. All hail Lord Raider, Chancellor Mack, Darth Derek, and Emperor Del Rio. The Chiefs and Steelers will take the other wild card spots.
newracer
12-06-2016, 20:46
Pittsburgh is not making it.
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funkymonkey1111
01-01-2017, 09:53
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/01/gary-kubiak-likely-resign-head-coach-denver-broncos/
If true, 2017 is already starting off well!
I like Kubiak, but I don't see him as a great head coach. I hope they get someone great.
I agree, I like the guy because he knows the game. Hopefully he sticks around at some capacity. I believe one of Kubiak's biggest flaw as a head coach is his forgiving nature, when he believes in a player it seems he'll give them chance after chance no matter how bad they shit the bed. One of the biggest strong suits NE has is the perfection Belichick demands, you're going to Kraft's kill room when something don't look right, doesn't matter if you're a Welker, Wilfork, Aqib, Derby, etc.
Honey Badger282.8
01-01-2017, 16:52
I feel it's true I feel bad for Kubiak. I really liked him as a head coach. The Broncos were just a couple of offensive linemen away from making a run this year.
osok-308
01-01-2017, 19:37
I feel it's true I feel bad for Kubiak. I really liked him as a head coach. The Broncos were just a couple of offensive linemen away from making a run this year.
Yep. Hopefully they can get that figured out next season.
Honey Badger282.8
01-01-2017, 20:35
Oh well, time to start rooting against the Chiefs.
Speaking of offensive line, how many game did that CSU draft guy play in 3 seasons with Broncos?
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