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roberth

11-16-2015, 17:16

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29124860/colorado-will-accept-syrian-refugees-hickenlooper-says

"Our first priority remains the safety of our residents. We will work with the federal government and Homeland Security to ensure the national verification processes for refugees are as stringent as possible. We can protect our security and provide a place where the world's most vulnerable can rebuild their lives."

What a colossal liar.

Zundfolge

11-16-2015, 17:17

If(when) something happens, the blood will be on the hands of Hick and every other Democrat in Colorado as far as I'm concerned.

SouthPaw

11-16-2015, 17:27

Do not read the comments, it will make your head hurt, BAD.

"Humanity before politics!"

Big E3

11-16-2015, 17:29

If(when) something happens, the blood will be on the hands of Hick and every other Democrat in Colorado as far as I'm concerned.

Nope Lickenbloomberg will blame it on the lack of adequate gun control.

Rucker61

11-16-2015, 17:30

The states don't actually have the ability to deny entrance to refugees.

hollohas

11-16-2015, 17:32

95% of them are men. These aren't families, women or children. They are not the world's most vulnerable. The ones that aren't terrorists are the world's biggest cowards.

Zach O

11-16-2015, 17:37

I wish I lived in they happy fun fairy tale land.

Good Christ.

Zach O

11-16-2015, 17:37

95% of them are men. These aren't families, women or children. They are not the world's most vulnerable. The ones that aren't terrorists are the world's biggest cowards.

Exactly.

Jumpstart

11-16-2015, 17:40

Well, my family will be avoiding Denver even more so now.

roberth

11-16-2015, 17:43

Do not read the comments, it will make your head hurt, BAD.

"Humanity before politics!"

but not American humanity...unless you're a leftard.

Irving

11-16-2015, 17:50

Well, my family will avoiding Denver even more so now.

Don't forget about avoiding the Springs and Fort Collins while you're at it.

hurley842002

11-16-2015, 17:53

Well, my family will avoiding Denver even more so now.

The sooner I can avoid the whole state, the better.

clodhopper

11-16-2015, 17:54

Can they be re-settled in Boulder?

wyome

11-16-2015, 17:54

Yay....more gyros stands!

sniper7

11-16-2015, 17:58

Wonder what kind of housing they will be putting these people in?

HoneyBadger

11-16-2015, 18:11

Don't forget about avoiding the Springs and Fort Collins while you're at it.
I wouldn't be too worried about Colorado Springs... it's basically the buckle of the "Bible Belt" in the amount of Christian evangelists in town, along with being extremely conservative and very gun-friendly... When I was going to church there, I knew of at least 4 other people every Sunday that were armed in our church out of about 300-400 people in regular attendance at each worship service. Colorado Springs is where I got pulled over, and then complimented on the "cool" AR-15 sticker on my back window by the LEO. Though the "JV team" has named Colorado Springs as a target (and there is credible intel associated with the threat), I don't think anybody needs to cloister themselves in their bathtub or basement with the guns. If you don't regularly carry, this is exactly why you should. If you do, this is what you've been training and practicing for. Either way, "The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore, he must be taught to fear his victim." -Jeff Cooper.

20X11

11-16-2015, 18:11

Colorado = Target rich environment

hollohas

11-16-2015, 18:19

I wouldn't be too worried about Colorado Springs... it's basically the buckle of the "Bible Belt" in the amount of Christian evangelists in town, along with being extremely conservative and very gun-friendly...

Perfect place for some "hope and change."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/09/plcement%20sites.jpg

Jumpstart

11-16-2015, 18:22

Don't forget about avoiding the Springs and Fort Collins while you're at it.
I'm not at it, yet.

BlasterBob

11-16-2015, 18:23

Today, I just heard that the Illinois Governor indicated that he will not accept them in his State. If that's accurate, I'm glad we moved to Illinois.

Irving

11-16-2015, 18:28

I'm not at it, yet.

Turns out I meant Greeley anyway.

roberth

11-16-2015, 18:31

Brownie was just talking about our naive and stupid governor.

blacklabel

11-16-2015, 18:32

I knew about the Springs and Denver but that's the first map I've seen with Greeley included. Awesome.

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BPTactical

11-16-2015, 18:51

Is it too late to recall him in the interest of "Public Safety"?

Serious question.

sellersm

11-16-2015, 19:00

I wouldn't be too worried about Colorado Springs... it's basically the buckle of the "Bible Belt" in the amount of Christian evangelists in town, along with being extremely conservative and very gun-friendly... When I was going to church there, I knew of at least 4 other people every Sunday that were armed in our church out of about 300-400 people in regular attendance at each worship service. Colorado Springs is where I got pulled over, and then complimented on the "cool" AR-15 sticker on my back window by the LEO. Though the "JV team" has named Colorado Springs as a target (and there is credible intel associated with the threat), I don't think anybody needs to cloister themselves in their bathtub or basement with the guns. If you don't regularly carry, this is exactly why you should. If you do, this is what you've been training and practicing for. Either way, "The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore, he must be taught to fear his victim." -Jeff Cooper.

Just a guess, but I'm thinking the target(s) ain't the people: it'll be the bases/AFA.

hollohas

11-16-2015, 19:06

Just a guess, but I'm thinking the target(s) ain't the people: it'll be the bases/AFA.
Disagree completely. These bad guys virtually always target innocent people.

roberth

11-16-2015, 19:09

Disagree completely. These bad guys virtually always target innocent people.

I disagree too. They won't attack hard targets. They'll go after sporting venues, malls, traffic jams, businesses with "Gun Free Zone" signs, that kind of thing.

sellersm

11-16-2015, 19:10

So all folks on our bases are armed?

Great-Kazoo

11-16-2015, 19:14

Wonder what kind of housing they will be putting these people in?

Why free, expect anything less for those poor refugees. YET My cousins M-I-L has been waiting how many years for Citizenship. [Mad]

I knew about the Springs and Denver but that's the first map I've seen with Greeley included. Awesome.

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It's easier for them to commute between greality & Sterling. Home to one of the largest if not the largest contingent of Somalians .

Chaffee2

11-16-2015, 19:17

I know this has been talked about before but I just do not understand the liberal mindset. Many other governors are saying no to Obama and hick is saying yes. How utterly stupid do you have to be to sign on to this? The FBI is even saying this is a bad idea. There is no way to check these refugees out. Did hick not learn anything from what happened in Paris or even our own 9-11? Hick is truly an idiot and people who voted for him even more so.

blacklabel

11-16-2015, 19:18

I could have sworn the largest contingent of Somalians was the Walmart in Evans.

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hollohas

11-16-2015, 19:19

I thought it was DIA parking lot attendants.

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Great-Kazoo

11-16-2015, 19:20

I could have sworn the largest contingent of Somalians was the Walmart in Evans.

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You never commute? Plus they've got a network up and running. How timely.

ray1970

11-16-2015, 19:21

Irving

11-16-2015, 19:21

brutal

11-16-2015, 19:22

So all folks on our bases are armed?

You forgot the sarcasm smilie.

trlcavscout

11-16-2015, 19:22

Turns out I meant Greeley anyway.

Dont worry the Somalians, Kenyans and Cambodians won't put up with any funny stuff. But hey all that gov money is great for the local economy. In a year they will all have 3 new dodge pickups and 5 big screens and living in habitat housing.

trlcavscout

11-16-2015, 19:26

I could have sworn the largest contingent of Somalians was the Walmart in Evans.

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1100 block of 29th street road in Evans is the best place to hangout after dark if you want that real Mogadishu feeling.

Great-Kazoo

11-16-2015, 19:28

Alpha2

11-16-2015, 19:28

Greeley is accepted as a center for Colorado muslims. (Spellcheck wanted to capitalize muslims. Nope, sorry).
It surprised me. Now, DIA, sure, obvious.

wctriumph

11-16-2015, 19:31

Not that it will matter, Colorado democrats have shown that they will not listen to the citizens, but I have emailed the the gov and every rep and asked them not to allow these refugees into Colorado.

Skip

11-16-2015, 19:43

If(when) something happens, the blood will be on the hands of Hick and every other Democrat in Colorado as far as I'm concerned.

Agree completely.

Dems are really jumping the shark. There is no way to paint this as "for the people" as they like to do with so many of their other initiatives.

And don't forget the organizations that are behind this.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/280725813/US-Refugee-Public-Affiliate-Directory

OtterbatHellcat

11-16-2015, 19:50

I have a friend that works out at DIA and basically manages all ground transportation at the airport.

There was some hearsay that many cab drivers on Friday afternoon/evening, "celebrated" the news about the Paris attacks among themselves.

We don't need any of these syrians in our state, and I really hope that the Gov's in the 25 states that said F Off to the Fed mandate can actually stand up to it and refuse them. I'm not even going to talk about the Hick.

Further if this country elects another bleeding heart LEFT/ LIBTARD as CIC, I'm not giving up on you guys, lots of really great people here in this community.... but I will give up on believing in this country....seriously.

blacklabel

11-16-2015, 20:20

So is it time to start carrying a long gun in the truck full time?

68Charger

11-16-2015, 20:23

So is it time to start carrying a long gun in the truck full time?

AR or AK pistol... best of both worlds- and you can legally have one in the chamber since it's a pistol.

I saw on the other thread that Colorado Springs is on the "ISIS target list"... so I think Hick is just inviting them here to off more Republicans, finally get that lock on the state.

Irving

11-16-2015, 20:28

OtterbatHellcat

11-16-2015, 20:34

Remember a few years ago when the local can driver was arrested for something to do with terrorism?

Yes, I had this discussion today with my friend. I believe he was a shuttle driver for Bluesky shuttle company. Tried a car bomb set up in New York that didn't work.

OtterbatHellcat

11-16-2015, 20:38

Najibullah Zazi......sorry, ABC transportation Inc.

If anyone ever needed a cross hair on his forehead, it was this guy.

Skip

11-16-2015, 20:49

So is it time to start carrying a long gun in the truck full time?

I wouldn't holler foul but if you have time to fetch a secondary weapon, LE has had time to get on scene in the metro/burbs where an attack is most likely.

Hate to be the guy carrying an AR/AK on a man with a gun/active shooter call.

CCW FTMFW at all times.

Skip

11-16-2015, 20:51

The cab driver thing is a bigger issue than most people know. Many of them all have the same days of birth of January 1st because it was supposedly changed when they came here. I know we have immigrants on here, how many of your dates of birth were changed when you came here? I'm guessing right around none.
Remember a few years ago when the local can driver was arrested for something to do with terrorism?

My wife's friends (all young women) will no longer take cabs in Denver. Too many bad/unconfortable experiences that strangely only happened when it was all girls. I've never had a bad experience.

I always thought there was something up with that...

blacklabel

11-16-2015, 20:53

I wouldn't holler foul but if you have time to fetch a secondary weapon, LE has had time to get on scene in the metro/burbs where an attack is most likely.

Hate to be the guy carrying an AR/AK on a man with a gun/active shooter call.

CCW FTMFW at all times.

True, true. Crazy times we live in.

Aloha_Shooter

11-16-2015, 20:58

The states don't actually have the ability to deny entrance to refugees.

You keep saying that. American citizens have the right to travel freely between the states but we're not talking about citizens. Article II does not give the federal government the ability to place foreigners around the country (although it DOES give the federal government the ability to regulate their entry into the country).

Are you listening to your idiot professors at CSU again?

Irving

11-16-2015, 21:07

Najibullah Zazi......sorry, ABC transportation Inc.

If anyone ever needed a cross hair on his forehead, it was this guy.

Yeah ABC, but you made the correction already. The owners swore up and down they had no idea. There are more foreign cab and limo drivers/owners in this state than any of you would be comfortable with.

kidicarus13

11-16-2015, 21:10

Many of them all have the same days of birth of January 1st because it was supposedly changed when they came here. I know we have immigrants on here, how many of your dates of birth were changed when you came here? I'm guessing right around none.

What are you inferring?

Irving

11-16-2015, 21:14

OtterbatHellcat

11-16-2015, 21:18

Yeah ABC, but you made the correction already. The owners swore up and down they had no idea. There are more foreign cab and limo drivers/owners in this state than any of you would be comfortable with.

Yep....all muslims and mostly somalian, ethiopian , and rawandan peoples.

Probably had some fun when the Twin Towers went down too..... shitbags. Also scary, is that they know the ins and outs of of the State/ major cities..........., where stuff is, where it isn't, who to look out for, who isn't looking at anything........they're IN IT at the street level every day, and have access to the terminals as well. One Crown Vic or Dodge Caravan full of fertilizer, and........ yeah.

trlcavscout

11-16-2015, 21:26

Greeley is accepted as a center for Colorado muslims. (Spellcheck wanted to capitalize muslims. Nope, sorry).
It surprised me. Now, DIA, sure, obvious.

actually FT Collins and Laporte have a larger mooslim population. A large percentage are Iranian but a healthy mix.

Although it's close.
http://www.thearda.com/ql2010/QL_C_2010_1_28c.asp

Great-Kazoo

11-16-2015, 21:37

So is it time to start carrying a long gun in the truck full time?

YOU DON'T?

Remember a few years ago when the local can driver was arrested for something to do with terrorism?

Yes, I had this discussion today with my friend. I believe he was a shuttle driver for Bluesky shuttle company. Tried a car bomb set up in New York that didn't work.

It was tied in with some hot dog stand scam. Or that could have been another "freedom fighter"

Yep....all muslims and mostly somalian, ethiopian , and rawandan peoples.

Probably had some fun when the Twin Towers went down too..... shitbags. Also scary, is that they know the ins and outs of of the State/ major cities..........., where stuff is, where it isn't, who to look out for, who isn't looking at anything........they're IN IT at the street level every day, and have access to the terminals as well. One Crown Vic or Dodge Caravan full of fertilizer, and........ yeah.

We need to import some serious muscle
http://i.imgur.com/lJPbOwn.gif

GilpinGuy

11-16-2015, 21:48

The cab driver thing is a bigger issue than most people know. Many of them all have the same days of birth of January 1st because it was supposedly changed when they came here. I know we have immigrants on here, how many of your dates of birth were changed when you came here? I'm guessing right around none.
Remember a few years ago when the local can driver was arrested for something to do with terrorism?

I'm inferring that for whatever reason, their date of birth has been changed to January 1st of whatever year for their documents when they came here. I don't know how, or why, but it seems pretty suspicious to me. If anyone has info on where I can report that kind of info, I will.

I check LOTS of IDs every day. Hundreds a week. I have noticed that many obvious foreigners, immigrants, whatever you want to call them have January 1 as a birthday. I'm curious why too.

BPTactical

11-16-2015, 21:53

We need to import some serious muscle
http://i.imgur.com/lJPbOwn.gif

Cracks me up evertime!

hollohas

11-16-2015, 21:54

Zundfolge

11-16-2015, 22:45

A gas station owner near me is a Muslim. He's been here for decades. His kids were all born here and are now adults. He's always been a nice guy. But recently, he has gone off on some pretty scary anti-American rants. Turns out, the dude HATES us even though he's pretended to be friendly all these years.

There are literally thousands of stories about non Muslims who had Muslim friends in countries where Islam took over who ended up being turned on by their long time friends. Many of them have played out recently in Syria and Iraq with the rise of ISIS being a signal that the time for "The Islam of Peace" to end and "The Islam of War" to begin and when it does its like a switch is flipped in these people's heads.

I work for MacVan Map Company and several years ago we had a couple of middle eastern men show up at our retail store with a rental truck looking for a map of the roads around Cheyenne Mountain. The guy working the counter (who is now an El Paso county Sheriff deputy) told them we didn't have what they were looking for and when they left he called the FBI. Never found out what they were up to.

Wulf202

11-16-2015, 22:51

Theres a mosque one block from me. Another 3 blocks away

kidicarus13

11-16-2015, 23:03

I'm inferring that for whatever reason, their date of birth has been changed to January 1st of whatever year for their documents when they came here. I don't know how, or why, but it seems pretty suspicious to me. If anyone has info on where I can report that kind of info, I will.

It's not a big secret and the organization that you would report it to, U.S. State Department, assigned them the birthday of Jan 1. There is no conspiracy. There is no connection between State Department assigned birthdays and the propensity for violence.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/on_new_years_day_wish_a_happy.html

Irving

11-16-2015, 23:09

It's not a big secret and the organization that you would report it to, U.S. State Department, assigned them the birthday of Jan 1. There is no conspiracy. There is no connection between State Department assigned birthdays and the propensity for violence.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/on_new_years_day_wish_a_happy.html
(http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/on_new_years_day_wish_a_happy.html<br />)

Thank you, that makes me feel better. I didn't think it was a government conspiracy, truth be told, I only found out about it minutes before I posted, so I hadn't really developed much of any thought, but it seemed strange to me for sure. Also, I wasn't trying to infer that certain birthdays have anything to do with violence. However, knowing how many people come here and start transport companies, and having had at least one guy get tagged for terrorism charges puts me on edge in general. I'll calm down now.

EDIT: I can't get your link to load.

GilpinGuy

11-16-2015, 23:20

Why not assign them their real birthday? The people don't know it?

EDIT: link doesn't show anything about this topic.

Irving

11-16-2015, 23:21

That's my assumption, but I don't know. My wife has her real birthday.

brutal

11-16-2015, 23:38

Why not assign them their real birthday? The people don't know it?

EDIT: link doesn't show anything about this topic.

Lots of links get posted that require an account/login. No thanks.

kidicarus13

11-16-2015, 23:51

My phone never links correctly. Here is the article:

But Deng didn’t know what to say in speech class, when his classmates surprised him with balloons, cake, a new necktie and a song, “Happy Birthday to You.”

The teacher started, then stopped, the extra part that goes, “How old are you now?”

Deng does not know how old he is. He does not know the day he was born in southern Sudan.

That is not enough for the U.S. government, which accepted Deng as a refugee in 2000. The State Department assigned Jan. 1, 1980, as Deng’s official date of birth — a necessity for filling out so much paperwork. His friends, family and many other Lost Boys who sought refuge in the U.S. have the same, government-issued birthday.

So do 200,000 other refugees from places where there is no new candle to mark that they have survived another year, only the treasured fact that they are alive.

Jan. 1 is full of blessings and some confusion for thousands of people who fled famine and war and found a new land of opportunity in a place where people have a custom of throwing annual parties for themselves.

Deng’s classmates decided he needed a party after he told them in a class speech that he had never celebrated a birthday. It is not part of Sudanese culture.

“If it was me, I would freak out,” classmate Kristina Miranovic said. “It’s like your specific holiday. Even though there were other people born on that day, there is only one of you.”

Esperance Muhimpundu, a Fowler High School student, came to the U.S. from Burundi with her uncle at age 13. As she grew older, she wanted to know why she had the same birthday as her uncle, sister and three aunts. So she asked her parents, still in Burundi, to go to the hospital and look up her real birthday. Now, when friends try to give her gifts Jan. 1, she tells them to come to her birthday party Jan. 30.

A Fowler classmate who came from Somalia celebrates two birth dates. She said she was born Feb. 24, but the U.S. assigned Jan. 1 as her birthday because she did not have a birth certificate.

The Department of State has been assigning Jan. 1 birthdays to refugees since the Vietnam War.

There is no formal regulation that sets that date, but staff members at oversees centers assign Jan. 1 birthdays to refugees who do not know or cannot prove their actual dates of birth. State Department officials are not sure why Jan. 1 was chosen, but suspect it could be so new citizens can have the earliest possible access to rights, such as voting and receiving Social Security benefits, that are earned at certain ages in America.

Of the 2.9 million refugees who have resettled in the United States, about 202,000 have Jan. 1 as a birthday. That includes people who were assigned that date and those who volunteered New Year’s Day as their real birthdays.

This year, about 13 percent of the 71,000 new refugees have Jan. 1 birth dates, according to the state department.

Haji Adan refers to Jan. 1 as his “date of birth,” as if it is just another line to fill out on a government form.

Today is also the date of birth for his wife and most of his friends, who will call and wish each other a happy day on Facebook.

But they all know today is not their birthday.

When Adan was a child, a civil war broke out in Somalia. A militia attacked his Bantu village, and he walked for five days with other boys who had been separated from their parents. After a long journey through a refugee camp in Kenya, the United States accepted him as a refugee, and he came to live in Syracuse.

Adan knows he was born on a Wednesday during a drought year and that he is 28 years old.

It is strange to Adan that grown adults would go around telling everyone it is their birthday, although he now puts it on Facebook, too.

“Most of the families do not celebrate for so many reasons, one is that they know they were not born on Jan. 1, but it was given to them,” Adan said, adding, “It is not offensive. It is an opportunity. They know they are going to a country where they will have a new life.”

There are some unintended consequences. It can be frustrating to school-age refugees who are set apart in class because they all have the same “birthdays.” Sometimes all the students in an English-as-a-second-language class will share a birthday.

“Other kids will make fun of them,” he said. “Some kids are smart, and they will stand up and explain why they were given Jan. 1.”

Adan told a story about a recent trip to visit an uncle in Canada. He drove over the border with four friends, all refugees from Somalia.

As expected, they were asked to pull over at the border for questioning. It was enough that a Somalian-born teen had just been arrested in Portland on charges that he tried to blow up a car bomb at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony.

And now, there are five young Somalians at the border and they all have the same birth date, on New Year’s Day.

“What do you mean, how do you end up knowing each other? Why are you all traveling in one car?,” Adan said the border patrol agents asked. “We ended up telling them that it was a resettlement process and all of us were given Jan. 1.”

The agents took their pictures and let them go, Adan said.

Another time, he said, local police pulled him over for talking on his cell phone while driving. The officers laughed at the birth date on his drivers’ license, and Adan thought he was in real trouble. Then, the officers asked him to promise to tell all of his “Jan. 1 friends” to stop talking on their phones in the car.

“He said, ‘You guys who have Jan. 1 have a problem with phones,’” Adan said. “I said, I can’t be responsible for everyone, but I will tell them.”
The American-born children of refugees know their own birth dates, and they insist that their parents celebrate.

“To make my kids happy, when the date of their birth is coming up, I go to Wegmans and buy a cake and some cookies, so they can share with their classmates,” Adan said.

After Deng celebrated his first birthday in the OCC classroom, he said he would celebrate his son’s birthday from then on.

Deng was nervous when he stood in front of the class with his first birthday cake, presents and a card. He said he would keep the card for the rest of his life and pass it on to his son. He blew out the candle and cut his first cake, once down the middle and once across, into four big pieces. He did not want to tear the wrapping paper on his gift.

Thinking about the day he was born made him remember his mother, who gave birth to eight babies with no medical care, then died in war. Celebrating his first birthday is an achievement he said he would accept on behalf of every Lost Boy who came to America.

“This is one of the very good things that Americans have,” he said. “You reward yourself and the people who bore you.”

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Irving

11-16-2015, 23:59

Thanks for posting. I can't ever get things to work from my phone either.

GilpinGuy

11-17-2015, 00:17

That's my assumption, but I don't know. My wife has her real birthday.

My wife does too. And she's a refugee. Must be weird to not know your own birthday.

Irving

11-17-2015, 00:29

My wife does too. And she's a refugee. Must be weird to not know your own birthday.

Same here. That's petty much what my wife said.

Great-Kazoo

11-17-2015, 01:02

Sounds like i need to invest in Birthday card stock by mid dec.

Aloha_Shooter

11-17-2015, 10:46

Aloha_Shooter

11-17-2015, 10:53

FWIW, my grandfather and his brothers were born in the US (well, it was still the Hawaiian Kingdom back then) but they all chose days to celebrate their birthdays. To this day, none of us know their "real" birthdays and they're not around to ask anymore. I would guess some deep-rooted Chinese tradition based on some superstition I've never heard about.

rondog

11-17-2015, 10:54

Lickenpooper is damn sure a self-serving prick. He'd sell his own mother to toe The Party Line and further his career. The will of the people and the good of the state be damned.

Dave_L

11-17-2015, 11:06

I wish the left was this open-minded about gun owners. I had to chuckle when people post "ISIS wants you to fear refugees! It means they're winning!". Gee, do you think the .gov may use those same tactics with gunowners?

Skip

11-17-2015, 11:10

Lickenpooper is damn sure a self-serving prick. He'd sell his own mother to toe The Party Line and further his career. The will of the people and the good of the state be damned.

Things are so messed up I'm not even sure they can be self-serving anymore. This is a huge risk and requires Hick to bet his legacy/future. If something happens it would offset any positives he, or Liberals, think he has done.

And it gets to a point where the local media can't even cover for him anymore. I'm noticing that 9 news took down comments on the story. They're trying really hard, but if people end up dead, they won't be able to hide that.

KAPA

11-17-2015, 11:26

So I am curious here... Are they using these same or even remotely similar background checks that they use on 99% of all the nutcases that do the mass shootings lately? These guys all passed a background check to get their guns and once they got their approved guns went and killed a bunch of people. Now they expect us to believe the gov can vet refugees coming from Syria that have no paperwork at all?

It is just a matter of time before we get a Paris style attack here in the stats... When it happens, I just hope it lands right in the lap of someone like Hickenlooper. At least I am pretty confident they won't be coming to my street as some liberal area will be their most likely target so they can get the largest body count.

hollohas

11-17-2015, 11:36

It is just a matter of time before we get a Paris style attack here in the stats... When it happens, I just hope it lands right in the lap of someone like Hickenlooper. At least I am pretty confident they won't be coming to my street as some liberal area will be their most likely target so they can get the largest body count.

Not to the same scale, but they have happened. But here they're are called "workplace violence" or "mental illness".

If/when something at this scale happens again, it will never land at the lap of our "leaders". It will be explained away as something completely unrelated.

Irving

11-17-2015, 11:46

I'm 100% confident that a simple background check can accurately vet the criminal history of a person coming from a county where rape, murder, incest, etc aren't even crimes, and oh yeah, no one even bothers to record date of birth.

RCCrawler

11-17-2015, 12:01

Things are so messed up I'm not even sure they can be self-serving anymore. This is a huge risk and requires Hick to bet his legacy/future. If something happens it would offset any positives he, or Liberals, think he has done.

He could welcome a refugee off the bus, buy him lunch, set up an apartment for him then the next day that same refugee could go on a shooting rampage downtown and Hick would walk away with clean hands, blaming guns. No one is held accountable for anything anymore, especially liberal politicians.

So I am curious here... Are they using these same or even remotely similar background checks that they use on 99% of all the nutcases that do the mass shootings lately? These guys all passed a background check to get their guns and once they got their approved guns went and killed a bunch of people. Now they expect us to believe the gov can vet refugees coming from Syria that have no paperwork at all?

Right, these people are so far off the grid of course their background checks aren't going to show anything.

kidicarus13

11-17-2015, 12:15

Refugee background check = not on the current terrorist watch list

kidicarus13

11-17-2015, 13:35

https://gma.yahoo.com/obama-slams-suggested-religious-test-syrian-refugees-shameful-164040041--abc-news-topstories.html

President Obama today condemned those who have called for denying Syrian refugees (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/world/syrian-refugees.htm) entry to the United States because of the deadly attacks in Paris Friday.
"That's shameful. That’s not American. That’s not who we are," Obama said to reporters at the G-20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey.
Obama, in particular, also targeted remarks from some Republicans in the wake of the attacks who have suggested screening refugees seeking entry into the United States to make sure they are Christians and not Muslims (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/lifestyle/islam-religion.htm).
View allery
(https://gma.yahoo.com/photos/obama-slams-suggested-religious-test-syrian-refugees-shameful-photo-164040949--abc-news-topstories.html)
GOP presidential (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/elections/republican-presidential-candidates.htm) candidates like former Gov. Jeb Bush (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/jeb-bush.htm) and Sen. Ted Cruz (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/senator-ted-cruz.htm) have suggested halting the admission of Muslim Syrians during the screening process for asylum in the United States.
The governors of Michigan, Alabama and Texas have also become the first governors in the country to refuse to take in any Syrian refugees after last week's attacks.
Obama stands opposed.
"We don’t have religious tests to our compassion," Obama said. "We do not close our hearts to these victims of such violence and somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue ofterrorism (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/world/terrorism.htm)."
President Obama: US Had No Specific Warnings Ahead …Play video
(https://gma.yahoo.com/video/president-obama-us-had-no-152523875.html)
ABC News reported Sunday that at least one of the attackers in Paris hid himself among refugees on a Greece-bound boat from Syria in early-October.
French President Francois Hollande (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/world/francois-hollande.htm) said today the Paris attacks were planned in Syria and organized in Belgium.
But Obama argued that by dismissing all those who seek refuge as terrorists, it would feed into the goals of jihadists who want to frame the war against terrorism as a war against Islam.
"I have a lot of disagreements with George W. Bush (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/world/george-bush.htm) on policy, but I was very proud after 9/11 when he was adamant and clear that this was not a war on Islam," Obama said. "The notion that some of those who have taken on leadership of his party would ignore all of that; that’s not who we are."

SamuraiCO

11-17-2015, 13:57

Muslims vote over 80% Dem. Nuff said.

Skip

11-17-2015, 14:18

He could welcome a refugee off the bus, buy him lunch, set up an apartment for him then the next day that same refugee could go on a shooting rampage downtown and Hick would walk away with clean hands, blaming guns. No one is held accountable for anything anymore, especially liberal politicians.

[snip]

Are AKs legal in France? Liberals lost a lot of narratives last week and that is one of them.

I don't see Hick dodging on this one.

lex137

11-17-2015, 17:45

Sorry for them, but we need to fix our own problems before we make/try to fix everyone else's.. Just my 2¢

hurley842002

11-17-2015, 18:42

Sorry for them, but we need to fix our own problems before we make/try to fix everyone else's.. Just my 2¢

Completely agree. Literally just watched Dr. Carson on PBS news hour compare the situation to being on an airplane, "in case of emergency, put your oxygen mask on first, and THEN help your neighbor".

roberth

11-17-2015, 19:23

Sorry for them, but we need to fix our own problems before we make/try to fix everyone else's.. Just my 2¢

Michelle Malkin agrees

http://michellemalkin.com/2015/11/16/a-reminder-of-the-refujihadis-who-have-already-waged-war-on-american-soil/

In the wake of the evil, horrific Paris attacks by jihadists who posed as refugees to infiltrate France, we are hearing a lot about what might happen if refugee jhadists — refujihadists (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Refujihadi?src=hash), as Brett Smith puts it so well — wage war against American citizens.

When will Washington finally make it a priority to get our own trashed house in order?

KS63

11-18-2015, 08:39

I just listened to the interview with Mike Rosen and I lost some brain cells. Anyone else have a difficult time just listening to Hick on strictly a sentence structure?

Joe_K

11-18-2015, 08:48

https://youtu.be/OoZwIDlIL5Q
Disclaimer: I did not make this video, watch at your own risk. Definitely some individual statements made that I disagree with. However I believe this is an important insight into the present "refugee" crisis occurring in Europe.

Aloha_Shooter

11-18-2015, 09:50

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/152535-More-attacks-in-Paris/page4#post1930052 talked about Michigan having tens of thousands of refugees due to Granholm's governorship and it got me thinking. On the one hand, if you have to put up with a liberal governor sucking up to Obama, at least Granholm was fairly attractive and could speak more than a couple of sentences without mumbling. On the other hand, it's a whole lot easier to detest Hickenlooper because he's the total package: ugly, can't speak, total goofball, complete imbecile.

By the way, anyone else ever been struck by Hick's resemblance to a certain other Western governor?

http://binaryapi.ap.org/bb7c50f62cd74968a08b2da0c41e052c/512x.jpg http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M7428d2b6a19ef5c0021adbcc8bd8c1a6o1&pid=15.1&P=0&w=600&h=600

Forget Change.org, we should be flooding the gov's office with irate phone calls.

Dave

11-18-2015, 09:53

I didn't get a harumph out of that guy.

Zundfolge

11-18-2015, 10:06

Wish this would have been Hick being questioned but when Mr Leg Tingle thinks Obama may be making a mistake ... well that speaks volumes.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/chris-matthews-hammers-dem-governor-refugees-would-you-feel-responsible-if-any-turn-out-be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyZr9o36_6E

Skip

11-18-2015, 10:26

Wish this would have been Hick being questioned but when Mr Leg Tingle thinks Obama may be making a mistake ... well that speaks volumes.

[snip vid]

EVERYONE gets it. It's all risk with no reward and even Liberals fear what could happen if that risk is realized. Unlike illegal immigration there will be a paper trail going back to this decision.

They basically lose on national security and foreign policy for at least a generation. And their credibility on anything safety drops to zero. Remember the "just one life" meme? Yeah, that's toast if something happens.

Zundfolge

11-18-2015, 10:29

EVERYONE gets it. It's all risk with no reward and even Liberals fear what could happen if that risk is realized. Unlike illegal immigration there will be a paper trail going back to this decision.

They basically lose on national security and foreign policy for at least a generation. And their credibility on anything safety drops to zero. Remember the "just one life" meme? Yeah, that's toast if something happens.
I'm not convinced all of them get it ... I think Hillary, Barry and Bernie and their fellow travelers honestly want to see a terrorist attack in US soil (especially a Paris style one) because they get things like gun control and maybe even dream of all dreams; Martial Law out of it.

Dave_L

11-18-2015, 10:39

Aloha_Shooter

11-18-2015, 11:04

This might have been answered somewhere so I apologize if it has but what is the plan with all the refugees? Where will we put them? What work will they do/be offered? Everyone says "we need to help" but will we be teaching them to fish or just giving them fish? There has to be more to this plan than just "bring them here and they'll be ok", right? I haven't heard anything out of the media besides we're bringing them to America.

This is State's plan: http://www.state.gov/j/prm/ra/receptionplacement/index.htm

Pretty vague, eh? Someone published a link to a map showing the planned relocation areas across the country but I can't seem to find it just now.

EDIT: Found a copy of the FY15 Resettlement and Placement Affiliate Center map:

http://www.uusc.org/sites/default/files/refugee_resettlement_center_map.pdf (http://www.uusc.org/sites/default/files/refugee_resettlement_center_map.pdf)

Dave_L

11-18-2015, 11:18

Thanks Aloha. I wonder what the stats are for how quickly the refugees assimilate into society like their "plan" suggests they do. Why immigrate when you could be a refugee and get a green card within a year while staying at your government paid for apartment (along with other resources). Why do we not have a plan like this for vets (or do we and I'm not aware)?

Meanwhile: http://www.wcsh6.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/18/reports-eight-suspected-isis-militants-posing-refugees-detained-turkey/75977926/

Skip

11-18-2015, 11:38

I'm not convinced all of them get it ... I think Hillary, Barry and Bernie and their fellow travelers honestly want to see a terrorist attack in US soil (especially a Paris style one) because they get things like gun control and maybe even dream of all dreams; Martial Law out of it.

I don't doubt the bloodlust those people have but think about that narrative... We've made it so unsafe here that we have to disarm you (which is not the terrorists who can whatever they'd like).

Can you imagine a Mother Demanding Action saying she doesn't want her kids shot by terrorists but is okay with bombs, knives, and any other method the terrorists would use?

DavieD55

11-18-2015, 12:16

http://i65.tinypic.com/9t3mls.jpg

Zundfolge

11-18-2015, 12:16

Can you imagine a Mother Demanding Action saying she doesn't want her kids shot by terrorists but is okay with bombs, knives, and any other method the terrorists would use?
Oh they will ... they'll fail but they will. What will happen is that some Islamists will pull a Paris here in the US with ARs and AKs they bought from gun shops with NICS checks and the whole bit and the MDA folk will claim that's why they need to be banned.

davsel

11-18-2015, 12:30

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mHYg1BwMMlI/VkvyWeie8hI/AAAAAAAA4SE/jXuIdaMNt98/s400/CT_E63VXIAAuD6s.jpg-large.jpeg

DavieD55

11-18-2015, 12:34

Rucker61

11-18-2015, 13:50

Rumline

11-18-2015, 14:47

It's all risk with no reward and even Liberals fear what could happen if that risk is realized.
Well there is a significant benefit for Liberals in all this: guess which party these "refugees" are most likely to vote for.

Just another tool in the toolbox for importing your own permanent Democratic majority.

ANADRILL

11-18-2015, 16:31

That's going to happen for sure. It might even be part of the plan.

It is the plan, as sick and twisted as it is. If this does happen don't surrender them...

blacklabel

11-18-2015, 17:35

Unintended Consequences needs another read.

Irving

11-18-2015, 17:57

The NSA is going to provider info to stop some threats and be the hero of the day.

BPTactical

11-18-2015, 18:10

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mHYg1BwMMlI/VkvyWeie8hI/AAAAAAAA4SE/jXuIdaMNt98/s400/CT_E63VXIAAuD6s.jpg-large.jpeg

Eggzactly

Skip

11-18-2015, 18:22

Oh they will ... they'll fail but they will. What will happen is that some Islamists will pull a Paris here in the US with ARs and AKs they bought from gun shops with NICS checks and the whole bit and the MDA folk will claim that's why they need to be banned.

You mean what Fast and Furious was supposed to be before ATF got caught? Creating a case for banning legally purchased guns...

They can and likely will try it. But as they are grabbing guns with one hand, their other hand is bringing terrorists into the country. They are on record supporting that and admitting the risk.

Say they ban all the guns. Have they solved the terrorism problem they just created?

roberth

11-18-2015, 19:09

The government will protect us.
[ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]

Fuck the government.

Rucker61

11-18-2015, 20:04

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/18/us-france-shooting-honduras-idUSKCN0T72UE20151118

http://fox8.com/2015/11/18/5-foreign-nationals-arrested-during-braceville-turnpike-traffic-stop-passports-surrendered/

Why wait for refugee status?

Zundfolge

11-18-2015, 20:27

Say they ban all the guns. Have they solved the terrorism problem they just created?
No, of course it won't. But they don't want to ... hell they want more terrorism and death because its a treasure trove of potential "crisis mongering liberty pilfering."

Gun control.
Banning encryption & anonymous internet posting.
Expansion of the surveillance state (which is already huge).
Ending interstate transport without proper papers and/or permission (RealID has already forced some Americans to have to get passports for domestic flights).
Curfews and limits on movement intrastate.
Outlawing of "anti government/pro terrorism" organizations (like the NRA, Heritage Foundation, VFW, Tea Party groups or hell the GOP).
Martial Law.
Suspension of elections.
Suspension of the Constitution.

The list of what these people want to take from us is ungodly long.

But hey, I say bring it bitches! Because nothing causes Democrats to become unemployed and replaced by Republicans faster than pushing gun control.

Great-Kazoo

11-18-2015, 21:34

No, of course it won't. But they don't want to ... hell they want more terrorism and death because its a treasure trove of potential "crisis mongering liberty pilfering."

Gun control.
Banning encryption & anonymous internet posting.
Expansion of the surveillance state (which is already huge).
Ending interstate transport without proper papers and/or permission (RealID has already forced some Americans to have to get passports for domestic flights).
Curfews and limits on movement intrastate.
Outlawing of "anti government/pro terrorism" organizations (like the NRA, Heritage Foundation, VFW, Tea Party groups or hell the GOP).
Martial Law.
Suspension of elections.
Suspension of the Constitution.

The list of what these people want to take from us is ungodly long.

But hey, I say bring it bitches! Because nothing causes Democrats to become unemployed and replaced by Republicans faster than pushing gun control.

Absolutely. I asked it in another thread. How long before .gov DEMAND Gun Control / COMMON SENSE laws, that 90% of people want?

Then again how many on this forum have openly said they Voter D / Support BHO. EVEN THOUGH The D's DON'T want to take away our guns. [facepalm]

HoneyBadger

11-18-2015, 21:37

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

BREAKING NEWS: 8 SYRIANS CAUGHT AT TEXAS BORDER IN LAREDO

Great-Kazoo

11-18-2015, 21:41

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

BREAKING NEWS: 8 SYRIANS CAUGHT AT TEXAS BORDER IN LAREDO

Those are the sacrificial lambs. It's the ones who have been here for years / decades / sleeper cells, that one will not see till it's on BREAKING NEWS.
Examples are The Tsarnev brothers and Ex maj. Hassan

HoneyBadger

11-18-2015, 22:04

Those are the sacrificial lambs. It's the ones who have been here for years / decades / sleeper cells, that one will not see till it's on BREAKING NEWS.
Examples are The Tsarnev brothers and Ex maj. Hassan
Agreed. Keep your eyes open and your mags topped off.

brutal

11-18-2015, 22:36

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

BREAKING NEWS: 8 SYRIANS CAUGHT AT TEXAS BORDER IN LAREDO

With BREAKING NEWS, I expected to see Megyn Kelly and hear progressive slot machine music.

Ah Pook

11-18-2015, 22:51

By the way, anyone else ever been struck by Hick's resemblance to a certain other Western governor?

http://binaryapi.ap.org/bb7c50f62cd74968a08b2da0c41e052c/512x.jpg http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M7428d2b6a19ef5c0021adbcc8bd8c1a6o1&pid=15.1&P=0&w=600&h=600

Silly, silly man. Govenor William J. Lepetomane was a much more effective and respected politician.

Ah Pook

11-18-2015, 22:58

http://fox8.com/2015/11/18/5-foreign-nationals-arrested-during-braceville-turnpike-traffic-stop-passports-surrendered/

Was the vehicle search done with consent or with a warrant?

Skip

11-19-2015, 13:05

No, of course it won't. But they don't want to ... hell they want more terrorism and death because its a treasure trove of potential "crisis mongering liberty pilfering."

Gun control.
Banning encryption & anonymous internet posting.
Expansion of the surveillance state (which is already huge).
Ending interstate transport without proper papers and/or permission (RealID has already forced some Americans to have to get passports for domestic flights).
Curfews and limits on movement intrastate.
Outlawing of "anti government/pro terrorism" organizations (like the NRA, Heritage Foundation, VFW, Tea Party groups or hell the GOP).
Martial Law.
Suspension of elections.
Suspension of the Constitution.

The list of what these people want to take from us is ungodly long.

But hey, I say bring it bitches! Because nothing causes Democrats to become unemployed and replaced by Republicans faster than pushing gun control.

The list is ultimately our very lives and that is demonstrated by the importation of terrorists. The challenge they have is how to maintain support and use this manufactured crisis which is directly tied to their policy.

The feedback loop on this one is too fast, if not immediate.

And where are the imaginary force fields that protect Liberals from this monster? If something happens, are they hitting Weld County or downtown Denver? So who gets culturally enriched are the people who already drink that Koolaid. Not a good change agent.

I think they are making a massive miscalculation with this. I could be wrong, time will tell.

Dave_L

11-19-2015, 13:58

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456651251/house-votes-to-increase-security-checks-on-refugees-from-iraq-syria

The bill — called the American Security Against Foreign Enemies Act of 2015, or the American SAFE Act of 2015 — would require the secretary of Homeland Security, the head of the FBI and the director of national intelligence to sign off on every individual refugee from Iraq and Syria, affirming he or she is not a threat.

Looks like they'll have some people to hold accountable if any of these refugees cause a ruckus.

SouthPaw

11-19-2015, 14:09

http://kdvr.com/2015/11/19/house-approves-bill-to-block-syrian-refugees-despite-white-house-veto-threat/

sniper7

11-19-2015, 14:14

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/19/456651251/house-votes-to-increase-security-checks-on-refugees-from-iraq-syria

Looks like they'll have some people to hold accountable if any of these refugees cause a ruckus.

While I think it is a good thing and I wish it was a full on ban on the refugees, we all know accountability is bullshit with the high and mighty politicians as seen from fast and furious and Bengazi just to name a couple more recent ones.

Aloha_Shooter

11-19-2015, 14:53

Sign off hell. They should have to let the refugees live next to them. House them in Chicago next to Rahm Emanuel, LA next to Nancy Pelosi, Northwest DC near Embassy Row, etc.

Skip

11-19-2015, 15:40

http://kdvr.com/2015/11/19/house-approves-bill-to-block-syrian-refugees-despite-white-house-veto-threat/

More details...

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/260782-house-defies-obama-approves-bill-halting-syrian-refugees

In a 289-137 vote, the House on Thursday easily approved legislation that requires new screening requirements on refugees from Syria and Iraq before they can enter the United States.ADVERTISEMENT

Forty-seven Democrats defied President Obama’s veto threat and backed the bill — enough to override a presidential veto given the six Democrats and two Republicans who missed the vote.
The 47 Democrats who voted against the bill ranged from centrist Blue Dogs, vulnerable lawmakers in tough reelection races and even one member of leadership: Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.), who heads House Democrats' communications efforts.

The 47 illustrate what I've been trying to say... They can't spin their way out what happens or blame guns and even Dems know this.

When asked about the prospect of Obama vetoing the legislation, Reid said, “Don’t worry, it won’t get passed. Next question?”

That's the kind of suicidal loyalty Obama expects.

Zundfolge

11-19-2015, 16:24

When asked about the prospect of Obama vetoing the legislation, Reid said, “Don’t worry, it won’t get passed. Next question?”

He must have taken a bigger hit to the head than we thought with that "treadmill accident" and thinks he's still in charge of the Senate.

Aloha_Shooter

03-31-2016, 09:52

Wow ... looks like Hickenlooper grew a pair, at least with respect to GITMO prisoners:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/john-hickenlooper-deals-blow-obama-opposing-transf/

Gov. John Hickenlooper now says that he will support the wishes of Fremont County residents living near the two prisons under consideration by the Defense Department if Mr. Obama follows through with his plan to close the U.S. Naval Station in Cuba.

Mr. Hickenlooper gave himself some wiggle room by saying he would support the will of the community, but also said that he doubts that the Obama administration will press the issue.

Now ... let's see how he rationalizes the difference between GITMO detainees being relocated and unvetted Middle Eastern fighting age males being relocated to Colorado ...

Martinjmpr

03-31-2016, 10:35

Was the vehicle search done with consent or with a warrant?

Cops don't need a warrant to search a car on a public road, they only need probable cause. Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 (1925.) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_v._United_States)

roberth

03-31-2016, 14:48

Wow ... looks like Hickenlooper grew a pair, at least with respect to GITMO prisoners:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/john-hickenlooper-deals-blow-obama-opposing-transf/

Now ... let's see how he rationalizes the difference between GITMO detainees being relocated and unvetted Middle Eastern fighting age males being relocated to Colorado ...

Yes, I was surprised too.

BPTactical

03-31-2016, 20:26

Personally I would like to see them reside in a hole in the ground.

DavieD55

04-08-2016, 23:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50NMRWulmEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83rC0BinsKA#t=47

sroz

04-09-2016, 09:29

And this is the country we are leaving our children and grandchildren.
We could solve this if we wanted to, but we instead encourage it.

BushMasterBoy

04-09-2016, 11:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU