Moderate Muslims

[Rucker61]

I found this to be interesting. Copied from a link shared by Larry Correia.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-problem-with-moderate-muslims/

[Sixgun]

Watch this video.

http://buzzpo.com/this-is-the-most-disturbing-muslim-refugee-video-you-will-ever-see/?utm_content=bufferaeff9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=positivelyrepublican

[Irving]

He uses the term "moderate Muslim" over and over, all while describing people that aren't moderate at all.

[TheGrey]

Watch this video.

http://buzzpo.com/this-is-the-most-disturbing-muslim-refugee-video-you-will-ever-see/?utm_content=bufferaeff9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=positivelyrepublican

Chilling. Absolutely chiling.

[JohnnyDrama]

Some people don't get it.


He uses the term "moderate Muslim" over and over, all while describing people that aren't moderate at all.

Kinda like "common sense" gun control.

[Rucker61]

He uses the term "moderate Muslim" over and over, all while describing people that aren't moderate at all.

I think that was his point.

[funkymonkey1111]

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[wctriumph]

I read the article and watched the video (among many that I have read and watched). I really don't know what to say about all of this. I believe in the Constitution as the supreme law of the land and it is imperative that we live by it. Elect those public servants that will follow it and we will stay free. Allow it to be ignored and we die as slaves to evil. As a last resort we must use violence to defend it. As soon as I can do 25 push ups I will be making my application to the Colorado Front Range Militia: http://coloradofrontrangemilitia.com/

I figure by the Spring of 2016 I could be ready.

I owe it to my family to prepare for the worst because it can happen in my lifetime.

III

[roberth]

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That's all we need to know.

[Great-Kazoo]

I read the article and watched the video (among many that I have read and watched). I really don't know what to say about all of this. I believe in the Constitution as the supreme law of the land and it is imperative that we live by it. Elect those public servants that will follow it and we will stay free. Allow it to be ignored and we die as slaves to evil. As a last resort we must use violence to defend it. As soon as I can do 25 push ups I will be making my application to the Colorado Front Range Militia: http://coloradofrontrangemilitia.com/

I figure by the Spring of 2016 I could be ready.

I owe it to my family to prepare for the worst because it can happen in my lifetime.

III



RULE #1 CARDIO.

[BushMasterBoy]

A good muslim is a ____ muslim.

[sniper7]

A good muslim is a ____ muslim.

Extinct.

[Irving]

You guys are going about this all wrong. ISIS is wildly successful at recruiting and winning hearts and minds with media campaigns.

Who volunteers to kick things off by penning a Modern Muslim article to distribute to the masses?
Example: The modern Muslim does not rape his wife or stone his sister.
The modern Muslim does not wear a suicide vest, because it clashes with his Dockers.
The modern Muslim is too involved in his small business to have time to dedicate to any Jihad nonsense.
The modern Muslim has no use for an IED and will never own one.

[Rooskibar03]

Well that was terrifying. Thanks.

[68Charger]

The title reminded me of this video by Brigitte Gabriel:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

sums it up pretty well...

[blacklabel]

Well that was terrifying. Thanks.

No joke.

[davsel]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CQwRkW4fCTg/VkvySDX9JdI/AAAAAAAA4QY/1OtNM0W1kAA/s400/12270360_1519497318368039_1149780627_n.jpg

[mackbamf]

Watch this video.

http://buzzpo.com/this-is-the-most-disturbing-muslim-refugee-video-you-will-ever-see/?utm_content=bufferaeff9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=positivelyrepublican

Europe is so fucked its not even funny.

[PugnacAutMortem]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CQwRkW4fCTg/VkvySDX9JdI/AAAAAAAA4QY/1OtNM0W1kAA/s400/12270360_1519497318368039_1149780627_n.jpg

So you are saying that you shouldn't eat any Muslims?

[spqrzilla]

I know many good and decent muslims. Unfortunately, their communities for various reasons are quite reluctant to disavow the extremist violent factions within their religious centers. Those strains of islam appeal to the psychopathic personalities.

That is what troubles me.

[spqrzilla]

From Tamara Keel:

RX: "So what do you think we should do with the Muslim refugees from war-torn lands?"

Me: "You know what? I'm glad that's a call I don't have to make."

RX: "Except that, by the politicians you vote for, it kinda is."

Me: "What I don't understand is why they can't just go to Mexico and walk in like everyone else?"
http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2015/11/overheard-in-hallway.html

[68Charger]

I know many good and decent muslims. Unfortunately, their communities for various reasons are quite reluctant to disavow the extremist violent factions within their religious centers. Those strains of islam appeal to the psychopathic personalities.

That is what troubles me.
And when some 3-10% "radicalize", then those good and decent muslims will do nothing to stop them- and may even be used (under duress) in attacks against other innocents.

[PugnacAutMortem]

since we are all here airing our grievances. FUck U Dud M for selling my info.

Did Festivus get pushed up this year? I didn't miss the Feats of Strength did I?

[Kraven251]

BRRRRT!

[BPTactical]

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I work with a couple of gents that both have numerous tours over there on the ground. Not truck drivers or cooks but as door kickers and body snatchers. They have spent countless hours with them.
The above picture is not false, it is absolutely 110% true.
You can shake their hand, drink their tea in their home, share a meal with them, laugh with them, cry with them, have them fight beside you, share just about everything between people that people can share.
But at the end of the day, when it all boils down to the most basic fundamentals:
You are still an infidel, you are still seen as the devil.
You are still what they have been taught to despise and conquer since they were old enough to understand words.
This is a fact.

[Zundfolge]

FINALLY! A Good Muslim.

No PC, No equivocation ... no excuses ... no "no true Scotsman" fallacies ... just straight up FU to the extremists (a little NSFWish for language but that should be obvious from the title).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzxf5ksKI4c

[Gman]

FINALLY! A Good Muslim.

No PC, No equivocation ... no excuses ... no "no true Scotsman" fallacies ... just straight up FU to the extremists (a little NSFWish for language but that should be obvious from the title).
Too bad the Quran says they can lie to us all they want to achieve their objectives.

Didn't people learn from Yasser Arafat saying one thing to the West in English and the exact opposite to the PLO in Arabic?

[Zundfolge]

Too bad the Quran says they can lie to us all they want to achieve their objectives.

True, we can't know for sure that this isn't Taqiyya. However the forcefulness of his language makes me suspect he's one of the genuine few tolerant Muzzies (and who knows he could be from one of the smaller sects like the Alawites who are more tolerant of non-believers).

[davsel]

Either he does not understand what his religion teaches - in which case, he is now a target of his own religion, or, he is lying and covering for his religion - In which case, he is at the least, a terrorist sympathizer.

Best case is for him to realize what his religion teaches and leave it behind.

[Zundfolge]

An interesting post on the subject on Facebook by Iraqi-born writer and human rights activist Faisal Saeed Al-Mutar.

Here's the direct link if you want to send the link to others https://www.facebook.com/faisalsalmutar/posts/906729506085781

I've taken a screenshot for those of y'all without a Zuckerface account.

https://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=62217&d=1447968446

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[Irving]

Looks like it's really from Joseph from the US. An astute observation either way.

[Limited GM]

I work with a couple of gents that both have numerous tours over there on the ground. Not truck drivers or cooks but as door kickers and body snatchers. They have spent countless hours with them.
The above picture is not false, it is absolutely 110% true.
You can shake their hand, drink their tea in their home, share a meal with them, laugh with them, cry with them, have them fight beside you, share just about everything between people that people can share.
But at the end of the day, when it all boils down to the most basic fundamentals:
You are still an infidel, you are still seen as the devil.
You are still what they have been taught to despise and conquer since they were old enough to understand words.
This is a fact.

Good posting and the exact thing I've heard time and time again.

My my question to the masses here is, anyone here BTDT and disagree? This is a serious question.

[brutal]

<snip> As soon as I can do 25 push ups I will be making my application to the Colorado Front Range Militia: http://coloradofrontrangemilitia.com/

I figure by the Spring of 2016 I could be ready.

I owe it to my family to prepare for the worst because it can happen in my lifetime.

III

They are not good proof readers. :D

WHO WE ARE NOT

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We are not white supremacists, anti Semites, anarchists, vigilantes, or criminals. We are NOT a hate group. We are not revolutionaries and we are not survivalists. We are NOT here to overthrow our Constitutional government.



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We are not the bad guys.



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For operational security reasons we will not talk to media or reporters unless we not for a fact that you will tell the truth.

[davsel]

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[brutal]

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Kill them all, let God sort them out.

Problem solved.

[cstone]

And their response is Kill them all, let Allah sort them out.

Problem solved.

So does the side that sends the most dead people to their deity, or the side with the most people still alive win?

[sampson]

Sounds like a broken record

[roberth]

During WWII the Nazis and Imperial Japanese would kill or enslave you if you opposed them, the only way to stop them was to kill them right back, in the end we were forced to use nuclear weapons and we won. Same thing here, opposition to Islam results in death, so our response must be the same, kill them first.

We're in a war, accept it and prepare accordingly. The other option is to deny we're in a war with Islam and you'll be wrong and you, your family, your friends will suffer for your ignorance and denial. Your choice, I made mine.

[Gman]

"It's like a bad Monty Python sketch:"

No kidding. The terrorists are being told to use knives to attack victims. Whenever guns are used, the usual suspects are so focused on blaming the gun...the terrorist's message is lost in the noise.

[newracer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

[newracer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

[PugnacAutMortem]

Kill them all, let God sort them out.

Problem solved.

If that is truly how you feel, then you are absolutely as awful of a person as you think "those people" are. And I sure hope you don't mean the Judeo-Christian God when you say let God sort them out. For your reference, see #6 on the 10 Commandments...it illustrates what God thinks about your plan.

[davsel]

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[davsel]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151120_ref_0.jpg

[wctriumph]

If that is truly how you feel, then you are absolutely as awful of a person as you think "those people" are. And I sure hope you don't mean the Judeo-Christian God when you say let God sort them out. For your reference, see #6 on the 10 Commandments...it illustrates what God thinks about your plan.

So, what you are saying is that we should not kill those that want to kill us? If someone wants to kill me or mine I should just let them? I agree with #6 commandment but really, not defend myself? Since the 14th century the west has been in an defensive fight to the death with islam. Islam is doing their best to ignite WWIII. There are 1.6 BILLION muslims in the world and they are everywhere. They consider anyone not a muslim to be an enemy and are only to be used as slaves or killed, we are sub-human in their eyes. This is the reality of the situation.

[Delfuego]

Kill them all, let God sort them out.

Problem solved.You sound just like them.

[brutal]

You sound just like them.

Quite ironic, isn't it?

[roberth]

I think the King James translation to English of the 6th commandment is incorrect. The 6th doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill", that would mean that God does not intend for Christians and Jews kill attackers in order to defend themselves. The correct translation would be "Thou shalt not murder" which is something most people/Christians/Jews are loathe to do and God does not want us to do in the first place.

Muslims, nazis and communists (D) have no problem murdering people. The ends justify the means.

[cstone]

I think the King James translation to English of the 6th commandment is incorrect. The 6th doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill", that would mean that God does not intend for Christians and Jews kill attackers in order to defend themselves. The correct translation would be "Thou shalt not murder" which is something most people/Christians/Jews are loathe to do and God does not want us to do in the first place.

Muslims, nazis and communists (D) have no problem murdering people. The ends justify the means.

I would have written it this way:

Some Muslims, some Nazis and some communists (D) have no problem murdering people. To some, the ends justify the means.

The trick isn't killing another human being. We are good at it and have been doing that as long as we have existed. The trick is killing those who need to be killed while protecting those who need to be protected. Often taking the effort to do this correctly can cost you your own life.

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17This is my command: Love each other.
John 15:13-17

[68Charger]

I look at it like in Nehemiah, when they were rebuilding the wall around Jeruselum... Especially Nehemiah 4 when their enemies were angered and threatened to kill the workers rebuilding:


16 From that day on, half of my men did the work, while the other half were equipped with spears, shields, bows and armor. The officers posted themselves behind all the people of Judah 17 who were building the wall. Those who carried materials did their work with one hand and held a weapon in the other, 18 and each of the builders wore his sword at his side as he worked. But the man who sounded the trumpet stayed with me.
19 Then I said to the nobles, the officials and the rest of the people, “The work is extensive and spread out, and we are widely separated from each other along the wall. 20 Wherever you hear the sound of the trumpet, join us there. Our God will fight for us!”
21 So we continued the work with half the men holding spears, from the first light of dawn till the stars came out. 22 At that time I also said to the people, “Have every man and his helper stay inside Jerusalem at night, so they can serve us as guards by night and as workers by day.” 23 Neither I nor my brothers nor my men nor the guards with me took off our clothes; each had his weapon, even when he went for water.

[roberth]

I would have written it this way:

Some Muslims, some Nazis and some communists (D) have no problem murdering people. To some, the ends justify the means.

The trick isn't killing another human being. We are good at it and have been doing that as long as we have existed. The trick is killing those who need to be killed while protecting those who need to be protected. Often taking the effort to do this correctly can cost you your own life.

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17This is my command: Love each other.
John 15:13-17

Is this one of those areas where as an example, i should judge people who voted for obama less harshly than the obama administration itself, even though without the affirmation of the obama voter the obama administration wouldn't exist. I'm having trouble drawing the line between actual acts of evil (obama administration) and the voters who gave their affirmation to the obama administration so it could perform acts of evil, right now I see them as one in the same.


For purposes of the historical judicial system, I'll clarify this.

It was thou shalt not "Retzach" which means "Illegal killing". The bible actually clarified it quite well.

War = justified killing.
Hunting = justified killing.
Self-defense = justified killing.

Lying in wait to ambush someone = Retzach.
(specifically, if a person kills someone like a mountain lion lays in wait for a deer).

Someone breaks into your house at night (which is burglary or other crimes with risk to you) = justified killing (Like the make my day law)
Someone breaks into your house in daytime (which is essentially burglary without risk to you) = probably Retzach if you kill them.

Someone kills your family member? You can kill them back unless they voluntarily go to a sanctuary city (think - voluntary prison)
Revenge killing in a sanctuary city (prison) = Retzach.

They didn't have 2 years of litigation and 20 years of appeals process back then. If you did something very, very wrong, you segregated yourself from the general population by fleeing to a sanctuary city. If you didn't, it was wholly justified for society (generally, surviving relatives) to kill you.

Much of this has been lost in the English translation, but that's where the lines were drawn. The punishment for Retzach was to have ones name removed from "the book of life".

Thank you. I knew someone would come along with a better explanation than I had.

A question - why does nighttime or daytime matter, is the author assuming no one is home during the day? Why didn't the author designate the house as occupied or vacant instead of night and day?

[BushMasterBoy]

Behold a pale horse, and his name is hell and death.

[Irving]

War is not justified killing unless specifically directed by God.

[cstone]

War is not justified killing unless specifically directed by God.

It sort of depends on whose court you are being judged in. Man's court = Man's rules, God's court = God's rules

There are evil people in the Obama administration. There were evil people in every administration. Every act that we disagree with does not make the act evil. Even if we are not evil, there are things that we want that are evil.

The world is a very grey place. I believe we find light where we bring light and we are a people who love darkness.

[bobbyfairbanks]

If you defend Muslims in any way your a coward.




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[brutal]

War is not justified killing unless specifically directed by God.


Self-defense = justified killing.

Shouldn't we consider defense from a Jihad self defense?

[Irving]

I was speaking specifically about war, not individual defense killing.

[brutal]

I was speaking specifically about war, not individual defense killing.

But as a collective society, are we not defending ourselves against a Jihad being waged against us infidels?

FWI, I'm drunk. LOL

[Irving]

We're all drunk right now.

[cstone]

If you defend Muslims in any way your a coward.




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Would you say the same about any person who defended another person who happened to be a Muslim?

[bobbyfairbanks]

I don't really care. If they where worth a shit they themselves would fix there problem since they don't they are cowards and deserve neither respect nor understanding.

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[Irving]

I don't really care. If they where worth a shit they themselves would fix there problem since they don't they are cowards and deserve neither respect nor understanding.



I really don't want to get involved in this conversation, but you can say that about literally every single culture on the planet.
What are you doing to fix the problem of white males who commit mass shootings?
Is your black friend at work not worth a shit because he doesn't directly do anything to fix the problem of gang violence in South Chicago?
Is your Mexican friend not worth a shit because they go to work every day instead of hitting the streets to take on MS-13?

[HoneyBadger]

FWI, I'm drunk. LOL
Brutal, FTMFW. [Beer]

[cstone]

I don't really care.

IMO, you could have stopped right there.

[roberth]

Constitutional rights apply to to muslims too, muslims get due process, they get freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and they'll use our constitution against us just like the democrats. I have to tolerate islam just like liberals and muslims have to tolerate people like me.


The line gets drawn when the elected government changes from our way to sharia, sharia does not recognize due process, freedom of speech, religion just to name a couple. I don't see sharia being too popular and in the cities are that are starting to allow sharia practices those residents need to stand up and stop sharia using the soap, ballot, jury, and ammo boxes in that order.

Until sharia is in place we can only prosecute muslims for individual bad acts, we cannot prosecute them just for being muslim. It is no secret that I do not like muslims but if I have to interact with a muslim I'll be polite and courteous just like I am with the goddamn commies.

[bobbyfairbanks]

Hispanic blacks whites or whatever else, aren't bombing Paris and threatening the entire free world because of some bs religious view. You DON'T have to be tolerant of intolerance.

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[cstone]

IMO, defending another human being because their life is in danger is never cowardly.

I believe a man can have no greater love than be willing to put his life in jeopardy to defend another person from violence. Not just defend himself, or those he loves, but a total stranger, because that unknown human being has value.

[roberth]

Yes, I do have to be tolerant of intolerance, God and The Constitution demand it. When a muslim attacks us physically we're permitted to act to defend ourselves, if a muslim starts speaking publicly about islam I am allowed to counter all their lies in that same public forum, I can watch my government to make sure none of that sharia baloney gets implemented, those are things I can do now.

Should we deny muslims entrance to our country? YES, because muslims don't have the right to immigrate here, they must ask permission and permission should not be granted for ANY of them from this date forward.

[bobbyfairbanks]

I agree most of the time.


Close the thread before someone sensitive has a feeling hurt

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[PugnacAutMortem]

I agree most of the time.


Close the thread before someone sensitive has a feeling hurt

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No feelings hurt here, you have just proved yourself to be a complete and utter tool shed.

[funkymonkey1111]

No feelings hurt here, you have just proved yourself to be a complete and utter tool shed.

no, friend, that would be you.

[spqrzilla]

I think the King James translation to English of the 6th commandment is incorrect. The 6th doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill", that would mean that God does not intend for Christians and Jews kill attackers in order to defend themselves. The correct translation would be "Thou shalt not murder" which is something most people/Christians/Jews are loathe to do and God does not want us to do in the first place.

The King James translation is correct. The problem is that when the King James translation was composed, 17th Century English for murder was "kill". Non murder killing was denoted by "slay".

[roberth]

The King James translation is correct. The problem is that when the King James translation was composed, 17th Century English for murder was "kill". Non murder killing was denoted by "slay".

Oh ok, thank you.

I didn't know the KJ version was from the 17th century, no wonder it sounded funny to me when Dad read it after supper.

[68Charger]

The King James translation is correct. The problem is that when the King James translation was composed, 17th Century English for murder was "kill". Non murder killing was denoted by "slay".

This is why the original texts are in dead languages... so they can be an unchanging reference- any language still in use evolves over time (ask Demoncrats about that)

[Great-Kazoo]

This is why the original texts are in dead languages... so they can be an unchanging reference- any language still in use evolves over time (ask Demoncrats about that)

Like a Living Document, such as parchment & quills ALWAYS being the main form of communication.

[Gman]

This is why the original texts are in dead languages...
Hebrew and Greek aren't *that* dead. Aramaic on the other hand... [Coffee]

[Great-Kazoo]

Hebrew and Greek aren't *that* dead. Aramaic on the other hand... [Coffee]


फ़ोर् थे विन्
for the commoner among us. it reads...... Sanskrit, For the Win

[68Charger]

Hebrew and Greek aren't *that* dead. Aramaic on the other hand... [Coffee]

There are more than one form of Hebrew and Greek... Parts of the old testament were written in "Biblical Hebrew", aka "Classical Hebrew" which is a dead form.

Now the New Testament was written in what is now known as koine Greek, which has not totally died out- but it's not the same as modern Greek.
http://orvillejenkins.com/languages/koinegreek.html

[Aloha_Shooter]

फ़ोर् थे विन्
for the commoner among us. it reads...... Sanskrit, For the Win

62433 or Quenya tûr

Sindarin (Elvish) for "Elvish victorious"

[roberth]

I believe the reasoning is in the society at the time you were not home during the day. Occupation/unoccupation is definitely a better distinction, but there is also assumption that someone breaking into a home in day was for property, someone at night was for malice (murder, rape, etc.) And of course with the translation/societal rifts, who knows, that could be how it was originally perceived (occupied/unoccupied).

A good example of that translation/societal rift that most people can associate: " It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go through heaven." Heard that one before? Sounds like a piss poor metaphor. But, the word for camel, in Aramaic also incidentally means "rope". So let's apply that with the correct translation: "It is easier for a rope to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go through heaven". That is a more conceptual and visual metaphor, right? One of in-numerous translation f-ups that is still in current publications, and undoubtedly there are many that we don't - and probably won't ever - know about.

Thank you.

More things for me to look up and learn so i understand the history and context.

[davsel]

I believe the reasoning is in the society at the time you were not home during the day. Occupation/unoccupation is definitely a better distinction, but there is also assumption that someone breaking into a home in day was for property, someone at night was for malice (murder, rape, etc.) And of course with the translation/societal rifts, who knows, that could be how it was originally perceived (occupied/unoccupied).

A good example of that translation/societal rift that most people can associate: " It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go through heaven." Heard that one before? Sounds like a piss poor metaphor. But, the word for camel, in Aramaic also incidentally means "rope". So let's apply that with the correct translation: "It is easier for a rope to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go through heaven". That is a more conceptual and visual metaphor, right? One of in-numerous translation f-ups that is still in current publications, and undoubtedly there are many that we don't - and probably won't ever - know about.

Reminds me of the laws in Texas that authorize the use of deadly force against certain crimes if they occur in the nighttime:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

There was a case years ago in San Antonio where a Sheriff's Deputy and his son sat on their roof with hunting rifles, waiting for the son's rivals to come over and cause damage to their property - ongoing feud.
They shot and killed one of the rivals and were acquitted because it was considered criminal mischief during the nighttime.

[Dave_L]

Its tough. I agree that it's just property but it's property that I spent hours either at work, building, etc that I can't get back. I struggle with the idea that if I find someone in the act of stealing my stuff, I have to let them have it. Property isn't worth someones life...which is why you shouldn't steal and risk yours (if it were legal to use deadly force).

[Irving]

Whether property is worth a life or not is a decision that a thief should have to make, not a property owner. Too bad that doesn't fly in current society.

[Dave_L]

Whether property is worth a life or not is a decision that a thief should have to make, not a property owner.

That's a great way to word that.

[BushMasterBoy]

Fat Her vs Must Slim...

[Great-Kazoo]

If someone died for stealing, there would be a lot less theives. Either by their choice not to become a thief or because of their choice to become a thief.

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