Has anyone heard about this open carry?

[RRD3]

Here's the email I received.



Ladies and Gentlemen -


(If anyone knows the Johnsons in Weld Co., please forward? And Ralph Snelvar (I hope I spelled that right!) the Seebecks thought you might be interested . . . )


In response to the City of Loveland violating the rights (http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=23999) of a man because he presumed to exercise his Second Amendment rights, we're going to have a picnic!


For those of you not real familiar with the terms, CO is an "open carry" state (http://opencarry.org/co.html) - that means that you have the right to carry your gun openly (outside clothing) in a holster. Sterile means that you've left the ID somewhere else. I'll either leave it in the car, or have a designated driver.


This part of the article particularly concerned me "The police officers, according to the ACLU?s letter, seized Miller?s pistol ?without consent, and emptied it of ammunition.?
The officers then ordered Miller to give them his driver?s license, over his objections."
Now, I hope that you all see my concerns, but since when do police officers seize the property and demand the ID of a law-abiding citizen?

The gentleman is 71 years old, and reports (http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=28698&forum_id=66&jump_to=493970#p493970) "They also said to me just at the end and out of the blue, "No one has thrown you to the ground."

Throwing a 71 year old man to the ground could be lethal force.


Wednesday, August 26 5:30pm (or when you can get there) at the Statue of Liberty.
Potluck - bring food, plan to share. Video cameras encouraged, as are chairs, etc. There's not much there, from what I remember.


I'm sure that you all wouldn't even think of it, but just in case, soft drinks only, please.
I'll be wearing the Libertarian Party of Washington shirt and Taurus Titanium .38. (And probably blue jeans and shoes. ;o)


Rachel H.
Seattle area, but Colorado Front Range homegirl


Act In Liberty,

Rachel Hawkridge
Chair, Libertarian Party of Washington
Libertarian National Committee
Region 7 Representative

Office Hours: When aren't I here?
206.769.2492 cel
www.LNCRegion7.blogspot.com (http://www.lncregion7.blogspot.com/)

[sniper7]

first time I have heard it.

[Jer]

first time I have heard it.

Me too and I live here.

[Bailey Guns]

I clicked on the "CO is an open carry" state" link in the OP. There's a lot of incorrect information on that page re: Colorado and/or Denver law.

[PsyKo]

the story is kinda vague, did the officers restrain him and forcefully take his piece and id? he said “without consent, and emptied it of ammunition.”, in my mind taking my weapon without consent means im on my belly in cuffs and they take it, if this were the case doesnt it seem redundant to order the man to hand over his id? sounds more like he handed them the weapon which would be consent.

i have heard of police unloading CC weapons during traffic stops (in states where you have to inform the LEO you are carrying) and such, i can understand a LEO feeling uncomfortable about talking to an armed person that someone had complained about, i am not condoning their actions at all as i dont know the details of the altercation.

need more info.

[RRD3]

Not sure of the details. That's why I was asking to see if anyone else had any information or head anything about the event.

I think it's still another citizen panic call to the police not knowing the laws.

[PsyKo]

I think it's still another citizen panic call to the police not knowing the laws.

this i can guarantee.

i just hope the older gentleman isn't simply trying to stir the pot.

[StagLefty]

I seem to remember a post awhile back on opencarry.org about this but I'm not 100% sure.
yup-reported in Loveland paper 7/17/09. ACLU involved.

[theGinsue]

The ACLU involved in actually standing up for someone's 2nd Amendment right to carry? They must be changing their modus operandi as that is very unlike them.