View Full Version : Food Poisoning ain't no Joke...
Anyone ever been through this? I'm on my 2nd day and while I feel better I still am only one step above hammered shit. I woke up yesterday morning at 1:00am with an overwhelming urge to vomit. Being as how I didn't get much sleep the previous night (and I can't remember the last time I actually vomited) I didn't want to deal with it and I convinced myself to fall back asleep. Mistake. I woke up a short while later and HAD to throw up this time. No negotiation. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Head straight to the nearest toilet. I'll spare the details but it was a circus act to keep all fluids in the proper receptacle over the next 10 hours or so. I wasn't even able to keep water down until sometime early afternoon and finally was able to get about 4-6oz of Powerade down. My lower back and kidney area were so sore and aching that it felt like I had been in a car/motorcycle accident again. That spread to my entire abdominal area and it's a difficult thing to describe. It's not the muscle soreness or the fact that I pulled my spleen vomiting as those are real discomforts that most reading this can relate too. This is a special kind of bloating/aching/pressure type pain that is engulfing my entire abdominal area the likes of which I've never felt before. It's crazy. The pain is slowly subsiding over the course of the morning and I've managed to keep a couple strips of bacon and some eggs down this morning but I'm down nearly 5lbs (I cringe at the idea of how much of that is muscle versus fat) and I still feel like I'm not nearly 50% over it. I do feel markedly better but that was a pretty low bar about 24hrs ago. I don't get sick and I don't get sick and I don't get food poisoning so this must have been a good one to get me like this. There's been times over the decades where the wife and I have eaten the same thing and she's gotten super sick and I might get indigestion or gas. What a treat!
Anyone else experience this reminder of how fragile and fleeting life is & how it can be turned on it's head w/o warning in the blink of an eye?
Well they found that the e.Coli going sound was from celery. Eat any of that lately?
Special Ed
12-04-2015, 12:53
I've been there twice, Jer, so totally understand the agony. I ended up in the ER with the second bout (Papa Murphy's chicken pizza). If it weren't for the fluids and pain meds they gave me, I would have wished for death even more than I already was. Glad to hear it's getting better.
Well they found that the e.Coli going sound was from celery. Eat any of that lately?
I don't believe so. I'll need to check back to my food log but the last thing I ate for dinner was Panda Express. My wife ate it too and the two entrees that I ate that she didn't were the Shanghai Steak & Walnut Shrimp which are two meats that, if mishandled raw, could certainly have resulted in what I experienced. I'm no doctor but that's where I'm focusing my blame at this point. I do keep a good food log though (MyFitnessPal) so I will look into gestation period of e.coli and see if there was any celery in my diet that fits that time frame.
I've been there twice, Jer, so totally understand the agony. I ended up in the ER with the second bout (Papa Murphy's chicken pizza). If it weren't for the fluids and pain meds they gave me, I would have wished for death even more than I already was. Glad to hear it's getting better.
I should have maybe gone to a doctor but I can't afford to. Good thing I didn't die I guess.
Special Ed
12-04-2015, 13:24
I should have maybe gone to a doctor but I can't afford to. Good thing I didn't die I guess.
Other than the goooood pain meds, they didn't do anything I couldn't do at home. They said I just needed to stay really well hydrated and it would pass. Of course your brain and body don't know that when you're spewing from both ends at the same time for hours on end.
Glad you didn't die. Stay hydrated!
Edit - the good thing about going to the ER that night was that I was the fourth person who came in that night with food poisoning after having eaten Papa Murphy's with chicken on it. It helped isolate the cause. I think you're probably right about Panda being the cause. But as Papa Murphy's told me, unless you get samples taken and tested at the hospital, they can't be sure you got sick from their food so they won't do anything. I should have hurled on their floor and let them sample it themselves :D
Been there 4 times. It sucks, but at least it is over with fairly quickly and normally has no long term effects.
Hang in there, the worst has passed.
I have had food poisoning before; it is a special kind of agony. You have my complete sympathy! I know exactly what you mean about soreness; I fully expected to see bruises or worse along my spine and my midsection. The headache was right up there with a migraine. Keeping hydrated is a must, and I'm gad to hear you're able to keep fluids down now. Hang in there- it sounds like you're past the worst of it.
newracer
12-04-2015, 14:09
I had campylobacteriosis once and it was horrible.
Just FYI most food born illnesses have at least 2 day incubation period so you last dinner is not likely the source.
glenncal1
12-04-2015, 14:14
See if you can get some more poweraide down, helps with hydration and restoring body chemistry.
Not lately. But I know the feeling. Hope you get better.
Sucks, glad your feeling a bit better. I had Shanghai steak last night, it's pretty good stuff.
JohnnyDrama
12-04-2015, 14:28
"Ain't no joke". Absolutely right there. Had that three times, they all sucked in their own special way. The last time I was fortunate to have a bathroom where I could sit on the toilet and reach the lavatory at the same time.
The time before that, I was reading "Doomsday Book" by Connie Willis. Not a good combination.
HoneyBadger
12-04-2015, 15:08
I don't believe so. I'll need to check back to my food log but the last thing I ate for dinner was Panda Express..
Last time I was violently ill (as you described it above) was about 6 hours after I'd eaten at Panda Express. I haven't eaten there (or been violently sick like that) since then.
Last time I was violently ill (as you described it above) was about 6 hours after I'd eaten at Panda Express. I haven't eaten there (or been violently sick like that) since then.
They added the "express" for a reason!
Special Ed
12-04-2015, 15:19
I had campylobacteriosis once and it was horrible.
Just FYI most food born illnesses have at least 2 day incubation period so you last dinner is not likely the source.
Can you elaborate on the 2 day incubation? I'm asking because, although I admit I was doped up and puking my guts out at the time the doc explained it to me, I could swear he told me that if it was the type of food poisoning most people get which is usually the less serious kind, the person would start vomiting, etc within 6 hours. He said that if it came on later than that, it was some other more serious version of food poisoning. Maybe I have that the wrong way around.
What I do know is that in both of my cases, the food I ate started tearing me up in a matter of hours. One meal I ate at lunch had me ruining the bathroom at a Ratt concert less than 8 hours later and the Papa Murphy's ordeal was roughly the same incubation period. Both times I know it came from the previous meal.
I think, if I'm not mistaken that it's probably good to know which kind of food poisoning you have because one can be fatal. Perhaps I'm wrong and that's why I thought I'd ask...the more you know :D
PUSH THE FLUIDS.. Get some pedialyte and drink it. If its too sugary/sweet for you, then cut it with water. But keep drinking electrolytes (its what plants need!).
Hope you feel better.
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 15:37
PUSH THE FLUIDS.. Get some pedialyte and drink it. If its too sugary/sweet for you, then cut it with water. But keep drinking electrolytes (its what plants need!).
Hope you feel better.
For the win. Then try white rice for solids. OR better yet, if possible watermelon, or other melon. It will keep you hydrated and provide some solids that are easy on the digestive tract.
wctriumph
12-04-2015, 15:38
Yep, been there and done that. At first it was a bad deal as to which end needed immediate attention but we got through it in about 36 hours of the worst I have ever felt. It turns out I ate some spoiled fish from the Red Lobster the previous Friday night. We called the restaurant and they confirmed that they know of at least three other people that had become ill and offered to pay any medical bills and please come back for a complimentary dinner for the whole family. We did not have any medical bills and I did go back for dinner the next Friday. No issues.
(its what plants need!)
I really hope I'm not the only one to get this..
newracer
12-04-2015, 15:45
Can you elaborate on the 2 day incubation? I'm asking because, although I admit I was doped up and puking my guts out at the time the doc explained it to me, I could swear he told me that if it was the type of food poisoning most people get which is usually the less serious kind, the person would start vomiting, etc within 6 hours. He said that if it came on later than that, it was some other more serious version of food poisoning. Maybe I have that the wrong way around.
What I do know is that in both of my cases, the food I ate started tearing me up in a matter of hours. One meal I ate at lunch had me ruining the bathroom at a Ratt concert less than 8 hours later and the Papa Murphy's ordeal was roughly the same incubation period. Both times I know it came from the previous meal.
I think, if I'm not mistaken that it's probably good to know which kind of food poisoning you have because one can be fatal. Perhaps I'm wrong and that's why I thought I'd ask...the more you know :D
Here is a good chart. Most are not within a few hours, there are some though that can happen fast though. When I got the campylobacteriosis we were on vacation in SD. We didn't find out what is was until later when my son still had it and we took him to the doctor. After that both states health departments wanted to know everywhere we ate for the previous 2 weeks.
http://healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/F_I/Food-poisoning
Special Ed
12-04-2015, 16:02
Here is a good chart. Most are not within a few hours, there are some though that can happen fast though. When I got the campylobacteriosis we were on vacation in SD. We didn't find out what is was until later when my son still had it and we took him to the doctor. After that both states health departments wanted to know everywhere we ate for the previous 2 weeks.
http://healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/F_I/Food-poisoning
Thanks. This is good information.
Grant H.
12-04-2015, 17:20
Anyone ever been through this? I'm on my 2nd day and while I feel better I still am only one step above hammered shit. I woke up yesterday morning at 1:00am with an overwhelming urge to vomit. Being as how I didn't get much sleep the previous night (and I can't remember the last time I actually vomited) I didn't want to deal with it and I convinced myself to fall back asleep. Mistake. I woke up a short while later and HAD to throw up this time. No negotiation. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Head straight to the nearest toilet. I'll spare the details but it was a circus act to keep all fluids in the proper receptacle over the next 10 hours or so. I wasn't even able to keep water down until sometime early afternoon and finally was able to get about 4-6oz of Powerade down. My lower back and kidney area were so sore and aching that it felt like I had been in a car/motorcycle accident again. That spread to my entire abdominal area and it's a difficult thing to describe. It's not the muscle soreness or the fact that I pulled my spleen vomiting as those are real discomforts that most reading this can relate too. This is a special kind of bloating/aching/pressure type pain that is engulfing my entire abdominal area the likes of which I've never felt before. It's crazy. The pain is slowly subsiding over the course of the morning and I've managed to keep a couple strips of bacon and some eggs down this morning but I'm down nearly 5lbs (I cringe at the idea of how much of that is muscle versus fat) and I still feel like I'm not nearly 50% over it. I do feel markedly better but that was a pretty low bar about 24hrs ago. I don't get sick and I don't get sick and I don't get food poisoning so this must have been a good one to get me like this. There's been times over the decades where the wife and I have eaten the same thing and she's gotten super sick and I might get indigestion or gas. What a treat!
Anyone else experience this reminder of how fragile and fleeting life is & how it can be turned on it's head w/o warning in the blink of an eye?
This is not an attempt to scare you, but watch this carefully. This sounds very similar to my go round early this year.
Had what I thought was food poisoning while on a work trip in ND in March this year. Felt fine, started throwing up, then felt like shit, and it went down hill from there.
Turns out it wasn't food poisoning. It was a gall stone that blocked my bile duct below the pancreas inlet, which caused those digestive fluids to back up and start digesting the pancreas. This is known as severe acute pancreatitis.
Thought I would be fine, got sicker through the week, went to the hospital in ND on 1.5 days later and got sent back to the hotel after some fluids and some anti-nausea meds.
Fast forward to getting home Friday, and going to the ER early Saturday morning, and find out that I was in full renal failure (kidneys were no longer functioning), my Pancreas was about 4x the normal size, I hadn't kept anything liquid or solid down since Monday night, and I was arguing with the doctors and nurses about being admitted...
During my 40 day stay in the hospital I had innumerable ct scans, ultrasounds, surgical drains, IV's, a PIC line, my gall bladder removed, and no food or water other than via IV/PIC for 35 days. The surgeon explained that my gall bladder was one of the worst he had removed in the 4000+ of his career. He used the words "dead" and "gangrenous" to describe it, as well as explaining that it started fall apart on him as he was working on removing it. He almost called the laproscoptic procedure and went to just open me up, but praise the Lord, he pulled it off.
I lost 90 pounds in the hospital, went through having 3 different infected fluid pockets found and drained (surgically placed drains suck), found out that pain killers don't really deal with pain for me, just make my head feel fuzzy and loopy.
I then spent 2.5 months at home still on a PIC line recovering, and am still not 100% back to my former strength, close but not quite.
Seriously, even if you are feeling better, be careful. I had one point about 20 hours in where I felt better-ish, and then it came back.
The bloating/aching/pressure and violent vomiting are exactly the same as mine.
According to the doc's, most people that go through this feel bad enough in the first 24 hours that they go get it diagnosed and are then recovering and basically fine within a few days. I have never felt pain very well, so I thought it wasn't too bad, and had a gall stone blockage for (docs best guess) 5 days, and that lengthened my recovery out to 40 days of hospital care, 30 days of home nursing care, and then 1.5 months of slowly starting to eat and do some computer work.
Gives pause, and new outlook on life, when a nurse tells you that if you came in even 12 hours later, they aren't sure they could have saved you.
I really hope I'm not the only one to get this..
Don't be an idiot.
;)
Grant H.
12-04-2015, 17:29
PUSH THE FLUIDS.. Get some pedialyte and drink it. If its too sugary/sweet for you, then cut it with water. But keep drinking electrolytes (its what plants need!).
Hope you feel better.
I really hope I'm not the only one to get this..
Don't be an idiot.
;)
But it's got electrolytes... You know, what plants NEED.
ChadAmberg
12-04-2015, 17:34
Oh man.. I had food poisoning about a month or so ago. Took a week to recover. Wish I didn't recover the weight I lost that week...
BushMasterBoy
12-04-2015, 18:25
Imodium AD for the diarrhea. Water for hydration. Rest as much as you can.
On the other hand it sounds like burst appendix. ER for CAT scan!
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 18:47
Imodium AD for the diarrhea. Water for hydration. Rest as much as you can.
On the other hand it sounds like burst appendix. ER for CAT scan!
IT'S NOT A TOOMAH
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Friends dont let friends eat panda express. Granted the chinese options are a bit more limited up there.
HoneyBadger
12-04-2015, 20:54
PUSH THE FLUIDS.. Get some pedialyte and drink it. If its too sugary/sweet for you, then cut it with water. But keep drinking electrolytes (its what plants need!).
Hope you feel better.
I really hope I'm not the only one to get this..
Don't be an idiot.
;)
But it's got electrolytes... You know, what plants NEED.
http://www.brawndo.com/
PUSH THE FLUIDS.. Get some pedialyte and drink it. If its too sugary/sweet for you, then cut it with water. But keep drinking electrolytes (its what plants need!).
Hope you feel better.
No worries man, getting plenty of Brawndo!
Here is a good chart. Most are not within a few hours, there are some though that can happen fast though. When I got the campylobacteriosis we were on vacation in SD. We didn't find out what is was until later when my son still had it and we took him to the doctor. After that both states health departments wanted to know everywhere we ate for the previous 2 weeks.
http://healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/F_I/Food-poisoning
Interesting. I'm going to look this over carefully & save it for future use even though I hope I never need it again. So far the second one sounds most likely & fits everything I had suspected already.
Hope ya recover soon.
Don't worry about losing 5 lb of weight. Definitely not muscle or fat. You need to burn 3100 calories to lose a pound- be it aerobic or anaerobic. Food poisoning = massive fluid loss. You puked/shit out a ton of fluids. Your body is pretty damn good at keeping those fluid/electrolyte balances in proper order and it takes time to get it back. Takes a few days to start feeling normal after symptoms pass. Puking makes you use muscles you normally dont use that violently. Push fluids- sports drinks are cool, lotta MDs like cola products because the syrup takes nausea away. Old times they sold Coke syrup and you put it over ice and spoon fed fluids to the ill. At least your GI track is clean as can be now.
My last bout was Vegas and sausage from a buffet I ate at the first nite. So sick I just crawled into the shower, turned on the water, and laid/puked in the thing for six hours. Never ran out of hot water-casinos are huge so no hot water problems. Probably went thru a few thousand gallons of water but screw the casino; they got me sick. Figured it took 8 hrs for me to get sick. Only one to eat sausage in the group. Spent 2 days in hotel bed while everyone else partied and got action. The day I felt better we left for home. Nothing like spending $1k fir a vacation and never leaving the fucking room.
I know it's just water weight but I've been addicted to eating better & working out for a little over a year now so to have to miss a few days of working out & having my food tracking app tell me it refuses to log my journal for the day because my caloric intake is dangerously low is disheartening. Too bad it wasn't instant ketosis that occurred but I know the process is much lengthier than that.
Had the exact same thing happen to me last week. My lower back hurt so much i couldn't sleep. the second night i was able to fall asleep, but had trippy/LSD dreams all night. got over it in 3 days, one of which i slept for the entirety of. Was not fun at all, it was a double sided surprise.
This is not an attempt to scare you, but watch this carefully. This sounds very similar to my go round early this year.
Had what I thought was food poisoning while on a work trip in ND in March this year. Felt fine, started throwing up, then felt like shit, and it went down hill from there.
Turns out it wasn't food poisoning. It was a gall stone that blocked my bile duct below the pancreas inlet, which caused those digestive fluids to back up and start digesting the pancreas. This is known as severe acute pancreatitis.
Thought I would be fine, got sicker through the week, went to the hospital in ND on 1.5 days later and got sent back to the hotel after some fluids and some anti-nausea meds.
Fast forward to getting home Friday, and going to the ER early Saturday morning, and find out that I was in full renal failure (kidneys were no longer functioning), my Pancreas was about 4x the normal size, I hadn't kept anything liquid or solid down since Monday night, and I was arguing with the doctors and nurses about being admitted...
During my 40 day stay in the hospital I had innumerable ct scans, ultrasounds, surgical drains, IV's, a PIC line, my gall bladder removed, and no food or water other than via IV/PIC for 35 days. The surgeon explained that my gall bladder was one of the worst he had removed in the 4000+ of his career. He used the words "dead" and "gangrenous" to describe it, as well as explaining that it started fall apart on him as he was working on removing it. He almost called the laproscoptic procedure and went to just open me up, but praise the Lord, he pulled it off.
I lost 90 pounds in the hospital, went through having 3 different infected fluid pockets found and drained (surgically placed drains suck), found out that pain killers don't really deal with pain for me, just make my head feel fuzzy and loopy.
I then spent 2.5 months at home still on a PIC line recovering, and am still not 100% back to my former strength, close but not quite.
Seriously, even if you are feeling better, be careful. I had one point about 20 hours in where I felt better-ish, and then it came back.
The bloating/aching/pressure and violent vomiting are exactly the same as mine.
According to the doc's, most people that go through this feel bad enough in the first 24 hours that they go get it diagnosed and are then recovering and basically fine within a few days. I have never felt pain very well, so I thought it wasn't too bad, and had a gall stone blockage for (docs best guess) 5 days, and that lengthened my recovery out to 40 days of hospital care, 30 days of home nursing care, and then 1.5 months of slowly starting to eat and do some computer work.
Gives pause, and new outlook on life, when a nurse tells you that if you came in even 12 hours later, they aren't sure they could have saved you.
That's a crazy story man. Glad you're alright. I appreciate the concern but I'm nearly 100% now. I've survived some pretty gnarly shit in my time so it's gonna take more than some bad Chinese food to take me out... much to the disappointment of some members here I'm sure.
TEAMRICO
12-04-2015, 21:27
The weight loss is the plus side.....skinny jeans should fit nice now.
Had the exact same thing happen to me last week. My lower back hurt so much i couldn't sleep. the second night i was able to fall asleep, but had trippy/LSD dreams all night. got over it in 3 days, one of which i slept for the entirety of. Was not fun at all, it was a double sided surprise.
Sounds familiar. Couldn't sleep at night when I wanted to because of the discomfort & had a hard time staying awake during the day sometimes.
The weight loss is the plus side.....skinny jeans should fit nice now.
aHaha... not hardly.
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2015, 21:40
The weight loss is the plus side.....skinny jeans should fit nice now.
Or better fitting sneakers ;)
Or better fitting sneakers ;)
I haven't even been posting all the new shoes I got Jim. You'd love 'em!
Are you sure it wasn't just a bad Taco?
In all seriousness though, hope your healing is fast and complete. I've suffered through a bout or two of food related grief, but nothing to the extent of what you're experiencing.
As other have stated, hydration, nutrient replenishment and rest are your friends at this point.
Heal fast and well.
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Sounds familiar. Couldn't sleep at night when I wanted to because of the discomfort & had a hard time staying awake during the day sometimes.
Yep, I didn't think it was food poisoning because the wife and i both ate exactly the same stuff, figured it was Norovirus virus again. had that a couple years ago with similar results.
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