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blacklabel
12-06-2015, 17:17
I've need to get this part of my preps cleared up for a while and now seems to be the time to do it.

I'm looking to store 20-25 gallons of gasoline in 5 gallon cans. My plan is to use one of these in a vehicle on a monthly basis and refill the can that day so assume that it will be rotated fully every 4-5 months.

Any recommendations for fuel cans and if I should use a stabilizer. 20 gallons won't last long but would provide a buffer or double my mileage in the event that the family needs to bug out.

HoneyBadger
12-06-2015, 18:00
Hope I'm not raining on your parade, but rotating though 5 gal cans is kind of a pain. Even with Sta-bil, I don't think the safe shelf life is much more than 6 months. I don't know of a better solution for gasoline. The shelf life is the major limiting factor. Also, good gas cans can be very pricey.

sellersm
12-06-2015, 18:05
Pri-G makes it last longer, but eventually you hit a limit with modern formulations.


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sampson
12-06-2015, 18:58
I use 15 gallon hdpe. Prolly not what gov wants, but it works for me.

XC700116
12-06-2015, 19:02
If you go to http://pure-gas.org you will find a list of stations that have non ethanol gas. It will last longer and with stabilizer in it will last up to 2 years with proper storage. By proper storage I mean sealed steel containers keep in relatively stable temps, typically a non heated garage is fine, just elevate said container off the concrete a bit on blocks. I use a 55 gal drum and have a hand pump for it. I have the barrel from my days of running race fuel in my snowmobile.

clodhopper
12-06-2015, 19:40
That website has problems. It just bounces forward to various adverts. Anyone else have same issue?

sampson
12-06-2015, 20:13
Yup advertising hole

XC700116
12-06-2015, 21:51
Link fixed, sorry about that, my phone isn't helping too much today.

GilpinGuy
12-06-2015, 22:05
I have six 5 gallon cans on rotation right now and throw Sta-Bil in it. No problems so far.

I got all my cans at Walmart. They go on sale every so often for about $12.

68Charger
12-07-2015, 00:57
find a list of stations that have non ethanol gas. It will last longer and with stabilizer in it will last up to 2 years with proper storage. By proper storage I mean sealed steel containers keep in relatively stable temps, typically a non heated garage is fine, just elevate said container off the concrete a bit on blocks. I use a 55 gal drum and have a hand pump for it. I have the barrel from my days of running race fuel in my snowmobile.


This ^^^^ (or get a Diesel... But storing Diesel has other issues, like algae)

Chief petroleum in Colorado Springs is one example that carries non-ethanol fuel, and off road Diesel (for my tractor)
I will only run non-ethanol gas in my chainsaw, 2 stroke engines with pre mix fuel are very sensitive.

Circuits
12-07-2015, 01:07
Not exactly stockpiling, but I was for a while saving up my fuel points, then filling up a series of gas cans at the end of the month where I'd use all my fuel points at KS and buy two fillups or a bit more worth of gas, and then refuel the car from my cans. Guess it saved a little bit, but probably never recouped the cost of the jerry cans.

Only real way to go bulk for gas is to have a storage tank at your home and buy wholesale from a fuel distributor, IMO.

Irving
12-07-2015, 01:44
I have six 5 gallon cans on rotation right now and throw Sta-Bil in it. No problems so far.

I got all my cans at Walmart. They go on sale every so often for about $12.

$12 for a 5 gallon gas container is pretty cheap compared to what I usually see. I imagine you're talking plastic right?

Ah Pook
12-07-2015, 01:55
Longmont airport has Mo gas (92 octane) for about twice the price of unleaded. It's real gas with no additives and no shelf life. This is all I run in all my two stroke engines (chain saw, weed trimmer, leaf blower...). The plow truck runs better on it too but only gets it when there is no other options.

Brian
12-07-2015, 02:28
I just re-filled a lot of my cans Friday with no-ethanol 91oct from Pynergy on Santa Fe. $3.199/gal and I was using the last cans I filled up for well over 3 years in small engines, which are a lot more picky than any car is going to be. I didn't use a preservative, but I did fill them up completely, including tipping the cans on end to ensure they had minimal airspace in them. Just remember to stand back if you fill them in winter and open them in summer, LOL.

If you want to spring for them, there are a couple places that sell really nice nato-style cans. http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/GJC20 for example.

There's a long thread about gas cans, deals, and long-term storage of gas on arfcom. Can't remember if we frown on direct links there, but pm me if you can't find it.

Getting in a habit of cycling cans every month is probably more of a pain than you think it is, but if you really get in the habit, then 4-5mo old gas should be a non-issue if you use a decent can, and you don't have to go for the more eth-free expensive stuff if you just use it in your car.

GilpinGuy
12-07-2015, 05:07
$12 for a 5 gallon gas container is pretty cheap compared to what I usually see. I imagine you're talking plastic right?

Yes, plastic. These sit in the shed, so they aren't getting banged up or anything.

GilpinGuy
12-09-2015, 18:34
Walmart regular price is $12.84
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HoneyBadger
12-09-2015, 18:52
Walmart regular price is $12.84
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In my experience, the spout on cans like this make it totally not worthwhile. I know there are better options out there, but then you are doubling the price of your can, at a minimum.

Wulf202
12-09-2015, 18:55
Winter Pump gas with a double dose of stabil will still run after 3 years. Small engine or big. They're just bitchy to start.

The cheap walmart cans vent and will evaporate your gas. I've gone to nato type cans. But you can use liquid gasket on the cheap cans

gnihcraes
12-09-2015, 20:23
Get a larger tank installed on the truck, store your gas in the truck. Always fresh.

Put an electric fuel pump/valve/hose on the same fuel line of the truck, then you can pump out gas directly off the truck as needed.


I keep a couple 5 gallon cans with stabil added, the gas seems to keep nearly forever. I haven't had any trouble starting anything with that stored gas.

Rooskibar03
12-09-2015, 22:42
I've currently got 25 gallons in 5 gallon plastic cans on site and I use for the ATV and every few months I dump into the car or truck. I'd like to move up to a metal 55 gallon drum with a hand pump but haven't made the move yet.

GilpinGuy
12-11-2015, 01:17
The cheap walmart cans vent and will evaporate your gas. I've gone to nato type cans. But you can use liquid gasket on the cheap cans

Huh. I've had 6 of these in a 10x10 shed for over a year and never noticed one hint of gas fumes. Haven't had any problems with the gas itself either. Maybe it's because I almost never gets over 85 degrees up here? Maybe if they get hot they vent? [Dunno]

hatidua
01-19-2016, 20:12
Any recommendations for fuel cans

Scepter MFC. No longer imported into the U.S. thanks to California, but still available if you do some surfing of the web.

Bmac
02-05-2016, 21:04
Everyone says this, but I have had the same gas in the truck for years and it still runs fine with no additives (its not one of those crossfit toyotas though). I always have a dozen gas cans full here at my house. I dont add any additive to them since I rotate them out every couple months anyway. I have a gas tractor, multiple pieces of equipment, 4 wheelers etc that take gas.

If you are going to dump them in your truck every few months, I wouldnt add anything.

i agree. I keep 20 gallons on hand too and use stabil and when I remember to. Just changed my 9-11 month stash out into my work truck,,, It still did 70 while loaded no problem, also still got 10mpg,,, No proplem!

hurley842002
02-05-2016, 21:49
Paid $0.96 a gallon the other day after my $0.50 King Soopers discount. Can't remember the last time I paid less than a dollar a gallon.

GilpinGuy
02-15-2016, 08:03
Paid $0.96 a gallon the other day after my $0.50 King Soopers discount. Can't remember the last time I paid less than a dollar a gallon.

It's an awesome time to stock up. I have 30 gallons that I got at a "good" price of $2.50 or so a gallon. Rotating it into the vehicles feels weird, like I'm using more expensive gas. Yeah, I'm retarded.

funkymonkey1111
02-16-2016, 11:16
Paid $0.96 a gallon the other day after my $0.50 King Soopers discount. Can't remember the last time I paid less than a dollar a gallon.

i think it was before the first gulf war....

i saw $1.31 for 87 in Minneapolis this weekend. cheapest i've seen it in denver is $1.45

William
02-16-2016, 12:28
These go on sale every so often, http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/military-style-jerry-can-20-liter?a=984598. Need a spout sold separately. I have 5 and rotate through them. It is a bit of a pita, but I like knowing I can extend the range on my FJ in case ...

SamuraiCO
02-16-2016, 14:33
I keep 15-20 gallons of gas (enough to almost double my mileage with my truck just in case). I rotate using in lawn mower and now my new wood chipper. When we purchase gift cards for Christmas gifts and get fuel points I will rotate through my truck at that time to refresh the stash.

Wulf202
02-16-2016, 16:14
During the warm months i run recycled fuel. 80% wmo (sometimes wvo) 20% regular unleaded. My cost is about 33 cents a gallon currently i could cut it but my generator is down so i have to use the extension cord to run my filtration. Diesel is about $1.70 right now.