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BPTactical
12-16-2015, 18:18
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/15/house-democrats-introduce-bill-ban-manufacture-assault-weapons/


insanity
[in-san-i-tee]
noun, plural insanities.
1.
the condition of being insane; a derangement of the mind. Doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results
Synonyms: dementia, lunacy, madness, craziness, mania, aberration,

Dave
12-16-2015, 18:20
Less than half of Americans now support an AWB.

http://www.vox.com/2015/12/16/10287884/gun-control-assault-weapons-poll

SamuraiCO
12-16-2015, 18:31
Republican's should gut the bill and replace it with complete reciprocity of CCW licenses in ALL the US, every state, every city. Change the rules in the Senate then pass with simple majority. Tell the Dem's to pound sand and to embrace diversity in firearms just like us and stop picking on black rifles.

roberth
12-16-2015, 18:47
Republican's should gut the bill and replace it with complete reciprocity of CCW licenses in ALL the US, every state, every city. Change the rules in the Senate then pass with simple majority. Tell the Dem's to pound sand and to embrace diversity in firearms just like us and stop picking on black rifles.

We already have that in the 2nd amendment.

The GOP needs to come out and declare all gun control to be unconstitutional and repeal anything that infringes on the 2nd.

USMC88-93
12-16-2015, 19:14
What are the chances of them getting something through the House and Senate?

BPTactical
12-16-2015, 19:41
What are the chances of them getting something through the House and Senate?

With R majorities in both-nil

Aloha_Shooter
12-16-2015, 20:14
Change the rules in the Senate then pass with simple majority. Tell the Dem's to pound sand and to embrace diversity in firearms just like us and stop picking on black rifles.

IIRC, Reid used the nuclear option at least 3 times to emasculate Republican attempts at filibuster. Time to hoist him on his own petard.

Bailey Guns
12-16-2015, 20:14
It's not a matter of getting it thru congress. It's a matter of getting the president to sign it.

Circuits
12-16-2015, 21:18
morans gonna moran...

Big E3
12-16-2015, 21:43
At what point do we start to prosecute these democrap law makers for treason. It is an undisputed fact that ISIS is now attacking us in this country at an increasing rate. For some reason the democraps see fit to aid and assist these terrorist by attempting a national disarmament of we citizens. How much easier will it be for terrorist if these traitors succeed and we the people can not defend ourselves. At the very least the republicans should be calling them out as traitors in a public forum.

I'm willing to sign onto any class action law suit that is initiated against these traitors.

HoneyBadger
12-16-2015, 22:00
The pictures the media outlets always use when talking about "assault rifles" or AR-15s or whatever always seem to be the strangest configurations I've ever seen. Who puts a KX3 on the end of a 16" barrel?

68Charger
12-17-2015, 09:32
According to The Hill (http://thehill.com/regulation/263303-house-dems-push-assault-weapons-ban), Cicilline said, “Assault weapons are designed for the sole purpose of killing as many people as quickly as possible. We need to do everything we can to reduce the toll of gun violence by keeping these weapons out of our communities.”

"Politicians are designed for the sole purpose of killing liberty as quickly as possible through lies and deception. We need to do everything we can to reduce the toll on Liberty by keeping these politicians out of work by firing the lot of them."

HoneyBadger
12-17-2015, 11:24
"Politicians are designed for the sole purpose of killing liberty as quickly as possible through lies and deception. We need to do everything we can to reduce the toll on Liberty by keeping these politicians out of work by firing the lot of them."
Even IF, you lose your mind and decide to go with what they incorrectly think are assault weapons, can anyone tell me how many people were killed with so-called "assault weapons" in the US compared to handguns?

Lets break it down:

According to the FBI, the number of deaths in which a rifle was used is typically more than TWENTY TIMES less than the number of homicide deaths in which a handgun was used. (~300/yr from rifles and ~6000/yr from handguns).
-This "rifle" category includes all types of rifles: leverguns, bolt action, semi-auto, and actual assault rifles.
--There is no official breakdown of the "rifle" category, but seeing how we only hear or read about one or two events a year involving the AR-15 or similar rifles, I think it's safe to assume that not all of the approximately 300 deaths a year were caused by what the left incorrectly refers to as "assault rifles". In fact, I would bet that the actual number is somewhere between 20-60. Even at the high end of that range, there are 100 times as many deaths in which a handgun was used.
-(Not as relevant, just interesting: Twice as many people are killed with people's bare hands every year than by the entire "rifle" category.)
-(Not necessary relevant to this specific argument, but still a very important detail: Look at the link below and see how firearm-related deaths are trending downward, along with the total number of homicides over 5 years. It seems the only "weapon" that is trending upward is "narcotics". Don't believe it when you hear people complaining about how violent America has recently become and how prevalent gun violence is, blah blah blah.)

Why isn't the left going after handguns? Do they not appear scary enough? Would they have to sacrifice their own personal security to get rid of handguns? Do they really want to get rid of all guns? ...or just certain guns which threaten them and their end goals? ...just something to think about next time you hear anyone ranting about AR-15s or whatever they want to label as "assault rifles".




Source: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2010-2014.xls

Dave_L
12-17-2015, 11:46
Why isn't the left going after handguns? Do they not appear scary enough? Would they have to sacrifice their own personal security to get rid of handguns? Do they really want to get rid of all guns? ...or just certain guns which threaten them and their end goals? ...just something to think about next time you hear anyone ranting about AR-15s or whatever they want to label as "assault rifles".


My thoughts on this...handguns are #2 on the list. Go after the scary "assault" rifles first. They are easy to convince the public that no one "needs" one. Then, paint the picture you just painted when gun deaths aren't changed. "See, now we need to go after handguns! They are the big culprit now! We've made one step with rifles, let's keep this common sense up!".

I also enjoy using these statistics to point out that the assault rifle argument is pure fear based because rifles are not even a blip on the radar in the death numbers. But we all know what would happen if they talked about going after handguns right off the bat.

68Charger
12-17-2015, 11:59
Even IF, you lose your mind and decide to go with what they incorrectly think are assault weapons, can anyone tell me how many people were killed with so-called "assault weapons" in the US compared to handguns?


you lost the liberals at think... they go by feelings

zulu01
12-17-2015, 12:16
My thoughts on this...handguns are #2 on the list. Go after the scary "assault" rifles first. They are easy to convince the public that no one "needs" one. Then, paint the picture you just painted when gun deaths aren't changed. "See, now we need to go after handguns! They are the big culprit now! We've made one step with rifles, let's keep this common sense up!".

I also enjoy using these statistics to point out that the assault rifle argument is pure fear based because rifles are not even a blip on the radar in the death numbers. But we all know what would happen if they talked about going after handguns right off the bat.


+1000. Get the scary rifle's banned first and then move on to handguns.

davsel
12-17-2015, 12:32
The pictures the media outlets always use when talking about "assault rifles" or AR-15s or whatever always seem to be the strangest configurations I've ever seen. Who puts a KX3 on the end of a 16" barrel?

Tavor owners.

I do know what you mean though. Just picking knits.

Irving
12-17-2015, 12:37
What are handguns created for then?

HoneyBadger
12-17-2015, 12:46
What are handguns created for then?
That's a scary question. This is my safe place. Please leave.

colorider
12-17-2015, 13:27
CNN report today.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/16/politics/obama-mike-bloomberg-gun-control/index.html

BushMasterBoy
12-17-2015, 13:50
In the new laws, Congress voted Obama a free vasectomy!

Zundfolge
12-17-2015, 14:22
I keep seeing Democrats screaming for more gun control and I think of the old cliche "Hoisted by their own petard" and I see in my mind a video clip of some jihidi trying to use a mortar and it blows up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hk600G5DYA

speedysst
12-17-2015, 15:51
I wonder why AR-15's have such anger issues. FALs and HK91s never run out and kill people right?

Circuits
12-17-2015, 18:10
In the new laws, Congress voted Obama a free vasectomy!

too late for the vasectomy - retroactive abortion is required

BPTactical
12-17-2015, 20:15
In the new laws, Congress voted Obama a free vasectomy!

How does one perform a vasectomy on a gash?

BPTactical
12-17-2015, 20:16
I keep seeing Democrats screaming for more gun control and I think of the old cliche "Hoisted by their own petard" and I see in my mind a video clip of some jihidi trying to use a mortar and it blows up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hk600G5DYA

Bye Felica!

Rucker61
12-18-2015, 10:25
Even IF, you lose your mind and decide to go with what they incorrectly think are assault weapons, can anyone tell me how many people were killed with so-called "assault weapons" in the US compared to handguns?

Lets break it down:

According to the FBI, the number of deaths in which a rifle was used is typically more than TWENTY TIMES less than the number of homicide deaths in which a handgun was used. (~300/yr from rifles and ~6000/yr from handguns).
-This "rifle" category includes all types of rifles: leverguns, bolt action, semi-auto, and actual assault rifles.
--There is no official breakdown of the "rifle" category, but seeing how we only hear or read about one or two events a year involving the AR-15 or similar rifles, I think it's safe to assume that not all of the approximately 300 deaths a year were caused by what the left incorrectly refers to as "assault rifles". In fact, I would bet that the actual number is somewhere between 20-60. Even at the high end of that range, there are 100 times as many deaths in which a handgun was used.
-(Not as relevant, just interesting: Twice as many people are killed with people's bare hands every year than by the entire "rifle" category.)
-(Not necessary relevant to this specific argument, but still a very important detail: Look at the link below and see how firearm-related deaths are trending downward, along with the total number of homicides over 5 years. It seems the only "weapon" that is trending upward is "narcotics". Don't believe it when you hear people complaining about how violent America has recently become and how prevalent gun violence is, blah blah blah.)

Why isn't the left going after handguns? Do they not appear scary enough? Would they have to sacrifice their own personal security to get rid of handguns? Do they really want to get rid of all guns? ...or just certain guns which threaten them and their end goals? ...just something to think about next time you hear anyone ranting about AR-15s or whatever they want to label as "assault rifles".




Source: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2010-2014.xls

Another data point, from one of their own sources: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

According to MJ, "assault weapons" were used in mass murders 5 times in the last four years, just ahead of shotguns at 4 times.

HoneyBadger
12-18-2015, 10:57
Another data point, from one of their own sources: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

According to MJ, "assault weapons" were used in mass murders 5 times in the last four years, just ahead of shotguns at 4 times.

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