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Anybody have a Nest Thermostat? Dont buy it, save your money...
Been deal with fucking heating issues in my house off and on for the last month and after 8 hours with thier help desk I got fed up and ripped the fucking POS off the wall and bought a cheap one for the time being. Biggest waste of money ever..
Apparently the way our house is wired there is a power sharing issue with the wires and because of it the house wont heat correctly. Dammit, tired of having a house 64 degrees. So fuck you Nest and your learning thermostat bullshit. Suck a donkey.
[Mad]
I've heard good things from friends that have em. Was planning on getting one when the house goes up in a few months.
I don't need no "learning" thermostat. I need it to do what I want, when I want.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Honeywell-5-2-Day-Programmable-Thermostat-with-Backlight-RTH2300B/203539496
$25 bucks and DONE.
The guy i subcontract hydronic work for despises them. Huge amount of problems
Saved me some money I was thinking of getting one in my new place
Bailey Guns
12-28-2015, 22:14
it would suck to have the house temperature 64 at night, that would be way too hot. 64 is where we set ours during the day and 55 at night. ours is a cheapy home depot one too. it works good.
Yeah...I'd have it 45 at night if Mrs BG would let me.
Anybody have a Nest Thermostat? Dont buy it, save your money...
[Mad]
I'll buy your unwanted Nest off of you for $20.
HoneyBadger
12-28-2015, 22:19
it would suck to have the house temperature 64 at night, that would be way too hot. 64 is where we set ours during the day and 55 at night. ours is a cheapy home depot one too. it works good.
Yeah...I'd have it 45 at night if Mrs BG would let me.
You fellas understand what my wife doesn't. I would love to bring the house down to 60* or so at night. She wants it at 70* all the time. We compromise at 65* and she still has an electric blanket. [LOL]
Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck
it would suck to have the house temperature 64 at night, that would be way too hot. 64 is where we set ours during the day and 55 at night. ours is a cheapy home depot one too. it works good.
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Yeah...I'd have it 45 at night if Mrs BG would let me.
You fellas understand what my wife doesn't. I would love to bring the house down to 60* or so at night. She wants it at 70* all the time. We compromise at 65* and she still has an electric blanket.
Holy shiverin' shit! Are you guys Eskimos or what?!?! I'd freakin' DIE in a house that cold! Warmth, I dig warmth! My old bones can't handle cold.
hghclsswhitetrsh
12-28-2015, 23:59
I decided a long time ago that I work too hard to be uncomfortable in my house. 72 in the winter, 70 in the summer.
I just haven't ever found that a programmable thermostat can't do pretty much whatever I need it to do. No interest in a Nest. I know people who have them and like them, but seems like a solution looking for a problem to me.
And I'm pretty warm-blooded, but damn . . . some of you guys keep your houses way too cold for my liking. I have our down to 65 at night and during the day when I am working from home. My office stays a lot warmer with me in it, so the house can be cool. But we have it at 70 for when the rest of the family is around after about dinner time.
StagLefty
12-29-2015, 08:33
it would suck to have the house temperature 64 at night, that would be way too hot. 64 is where we set ours during the day and 55 at night. ours is a cheapy home depot one too. it works good.
I thought I was the only one,
ruthabagah
12-29-2015, 08:55
wow. got 3 nest installed in 3 properties: been rock solid since day one. Only had to rewire one of the older furnace, but aside from that, they have been working great for the last 3 years....
For the last house, I wanted to try something else and installed a Sensi: huge mistake. Returned it, and got a nest.
Now, there is one feature that you MUST disable: the auto learn. It's a waste of time and you will freeze to death.
58 at night and 68 during the day at our house. Blinds and curtains closed when the sun goes down and opened when the sun comes up. Old school solar heat. Down comforters are pretty warm and there are other ways of producing heat at night. [Coffee]
AC is run about a week every summer whenever we get a sustained heating spell in the upper 90's. Reversing the winter blinds routine and running ceiling fans at night makes the low humidity living of Colorado pretty comfortable for someone who grew up without AC in +90% humidity back east. I almost never run AC in my car. It goes on when we are on long drives across country and we are listening to something on the radio.
I never heard of NEST or learning thermostats. They must be from the devil [LOL]
drift_g35
12-29-2015, 09:37
I love my nest, i've had no problems. It does have power requirements https://nest.com/support/article/Power-Specifications-for-the-Nest-Learning-Thermostat I know that a lot of people in the HVAC business hated the old Nests because they would burn up circuit boards on the furnace. That is no longer an issue with the newer once (Gen2). I bet I save $150 a year with my Nest. Plus it syncs with almost everything.
glenncal1
12-29-2015, 09:52
You fellas understand what my wife doesn't. I would love to bring the house down to 60* or so at night. She wants it at 70* all the time. We compromise at 65* and she still has an electric blanket. [LOL]
I bought the wife an electric blanket for xmas, best purchase ever, she can keep her (and the cat's) side nice and toasty and I can keep the room a little cool.
RCCrawler
12-29-2015, 10:15
Apparently the way our house is wired there is a power sharing issue with the wires and because of it the house wont heat correctly.
So your house is wired weird, but it's the thermostats fault?
gnihcraes
12-29-2015, 10:56
I've got an older programmable unit, has worked well. I need to upgrade, but I'm not sure the nest would give me much benefit.
House is 65 at night, 68 during the day. Pellet stove in basement bumps everything up a degree usually. Basement can stay 70* with the pellets burning.
Just installed mine last night. We'll see how it works compared to the previous wifi thermostat. I've always liked the ability to access control while you are away especially for the garage heater.
My house came with a Honeywell thermostat. I love it. Too hot/cold while in bed? Roll over, grab my phone, open the app, adjust. No getting out of bed, going downstairs, etc. Worst was in the winter when we'd shut the heat off during the day because of the sun but forget to turn it back on before bed. Wake up at 3 am to 55 degrees and the dogs curled up as close as possible. LOL. Makes it very convenient.
My house came with a Honeywell thermostat. I love it. Too hot/cold while in bed? Roll over, grab my phone, open the app, adjust. No getting out of bed, going downstairs, etc. Worst was in the winter when we'd shut the heat off during the day because of the sun but forget to turn it back on before bed. Wake up at 3 am to 55 degrees and the dogs curled up as close as possible. LOL. Makes it very convenient.
I think it builds character to have to get out of bed, shivering, to go fix it. ;)
if an emp ever happens at least we know who is going first.
... use technology while you still can. I'll have stories to tell the grand kids, huddled around fires trying to keep warm, of the days when your thermostat was called HAL and watched your every move
Does keeping very low temps at night and during the day use more energy due to the temp range that had to be covered to bring up the temp when home?
Ex/ Does it take less energy to maintain 68 at night and all day, then bring up to 70 when home in evening, compared to having to warm the house to 70 from 55 degrees?
ACE2GOOD
12-29-2015, 14:24
My brother works HVAC and he says the best ones out are Honeywell and Sensi (contractor grade). He put a Sensi in my house and it's awesome. Doesn't do learning bullshit but its an app on your phone and you program it like a normal thermostat and can turn it up and down from your phone when you are away. We usually turn it down when we are on vacation and you can get it spun and heating again on your way back home so it's nice and cozy when you get back.
They also have a fancy Honeywell one that hooks up to the internet and tells you the outside temp and weather and stuff like that. Too fancy for me but my brother likes it.
I look at WiFi capable appliances as a quality investment for when I decide to sell or rent my home. Only to a point though. WiFi dishwasher or washer/dryer? No. But thermostat and garage door opener? Yes; especially in an older house like mine.
They also have a fancy Honeywell one that hooks up to the internet and tells you the outside temp and weather and stuff like that. Too fancy for me but my brother likes it.
Yup, thats the one I have. It's pretty neat.
I install automation systems and have done a few Nest's at the request of clients.. No problems with them.. The issues I run into everyday are F'ing HVAC guys that can't manage to pull wire that is capable of future upgrades.. If their system requires 2 conductors to operate they pull a cable with two conductors and thats it.. I've asked them what they do if the wire gets cut and why they don't run a 3 or 4 conductor wire just in case.. They look at you like a deer in headlights.. I even run into HVAC guys that flat out tell me you can't run Heat and AC off the same Tstat.... I can go on and on about HVAC guys..
That said, if your system is wired wrong blame the guy that pulled the wire for being to cheap to spend $2 more on a cable with an extra conductor.
As for hydronic/in floor heat.. You shouldn't be changing the temps on those systems throughout the day, it will actually cost you more money to do that, they are meant to stay at a constant temperature to be most efficient.
thvigil11
12-29-2015, 15:56
My learning thermostat is called "Hey hon, Start a fire dammit." Got some good old thermo's that are set at 55 to keep the house from freezing and a good quality wood stove with 6-8 cords per year. Truthfully, the house is ICF with lotsa south facing windows. Most winter nights, it'll only lose a few degrees inside. Unless it's overcast all day, the heaters rarely kick on.
spqrzilla
12-29-2015, 17:43
I finally had to pull the thermostat last year off my mother's wall. It had a bimetal coil and a big mercury bulb switch. Talk about EMP proof ...
Walker2970
12-29-2015, 20:05
you want one of those fancy dancy thermostats i got one of these http://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/thermostats/systxccitc01-a/ Ill give to ya for mabey a box of .45 or somthing if your interested
I keep my house at 70 degrees year round.
I wish they they made a thermostat that could switch between heat/air conditioning automatically during the spring and fall months when we get those huge temperature swings between day and night. You know, kick the AC on during the day if the house gets above 70 and then kick the heat on at night if it drops below 70.
hghclsswhitetrsh
12-29-2015, 20:28
I install automation systems and have done a few Nest's at the request of clients.. No problems with them.. The issues I run into everyday are F'ing HVAC guys that can't manage to pull wire that is capable of future upgrades.. If their system requires 2 conductors to operate they pull a cable with two conductors and thats it.. I've asked them what they do if the wire gets cut and why they don't run a 3 or 4 conductor wire just in case.. They look at you like a deer in headlights.. I even run into HVAC guys that flat out tell me you can't run Heat and AC off the same Tstat.... I can go on and on about HVAC guys..
That said, if your system is wired wrong blame the guy that pulled the wire for being to cheap to spend $2 more on a cable with an extra conductor.
As for hydronic/in floor heat.. You shouldn't be changing the temps on those systems throughout the day, it will actually cost you more money to do that, they are meant to stay at a constant temperature to be most efficient.
There's always exceptions to every trade. Unfortunately most of the people in the HVAC realm are afraid of technology. First people were scared of two stage technology and high efficiency, now they're afraid of fully modulating integrated technology.
On a side note feel free to step off your high horse - you only do automation after all.
Hotchef181818
12-30-2015, 07:20
I keep my house at 70 degrees year round.
I wish they they made a thermostat that could switch between heat/air conditioning automatically during the spring and fall months when we get those huge temperature swings between day and night. You know, kick the AC on during the day if the house gets above 70 and then kick the heat on at night if it drops below 70.
they do, Honeywell makes them and I have one for each system in my house. You just set it on auto, takes care of everything for you. Don't know the model off the top of my head.
Walker2970
12-30-2015, 09:37
I keep my house at 70 degrees year round.
I wish they they made a thermostat that could switch between heat/air conditioning automatically during the spring and fall months when we get those huge temperature swings between day and night. You know, kick the AC on during the day if the house gets above 70 and then kick the heat on at night if it drops below 70.
we call those auto change-over stats i might have one or two in the shed if ya want one
I finally had to pull the thermostat last year off my mother's wall. It had a bimetal coil and a big mercury bulb switch. Talk about EMP proof ...
Replaced the original one at my Dad's house from 1950 last year when he had the furnace replaced. I'm pretty sure there was a little pterodactyl in there flipping switches...
I install automation systems and have done a few Nest's at the request of clients.. No problems with them.. The issues I run into everyday are F'ing HVAC guys that can't manage to pull wire that is capable of future upgrades.. If their system requires 2 conductors to operate they pull a cable with two conductors and thats it.. I've asked them what they do if the wire gets cut and why they don't run a 3 or 4 conductor wire just in case.. They look at you like a deer in headlights.. I even run into HVAC guys that flat out tell me you can't run Heat and AC off the same Tstat.... I can go on and on about HVAC guys..
That said, if your system is wired wrong blame the guy that pulled the wire for being to cheap to spend $2 more on a cable with an extra conductor.
As for hydronic/in floor heat.. You shouldn't be changing the temps on those systems throughout the day, it will actually cost you more money to do that, they are meant to stay at a constant temperature to be most efficient.
I just bought some 18-8 wire today for a house with only heat... Its usually the installers that don't give a shit..
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