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TheGrey
01-01-2016, 00:36
Anyone that spends time in the social media will understand the frustration of discussing/arguing with the Social Justice Warrior ( a self-aggrandizing term, if ever there was one.) This is a beautiful smackdown. Enjoy!

Please read beyond the first line. The first line is what is being argued AGAINST. This is not pro-SJW.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/31/read-the-epic-social-justice-warrior-smackdown-that-is-going-viral/


I can’t help but share this amazing anonymous smackdown of the odious cult of social justice with readers. It’s currently doing the rounds on Twitter and reddit. If anyone knows the author, do get in touch…

“We are fighting to end hate, to unite as one and love each other. We are fighting to be treated right without discrimination and for everyone to have equal opportunities.”

Bullshit. You have no quantifiable metrics for injustice, so you have no victory conditions (for a very simplified example, when blacks hold X% of all engineering jobs and are only Y% of all prisoners, racism is ended). That would be fine by itself, but you believe in fighting injustice with injustice (gays have historically been denied gay marriage? let’s get random CEOs fired for opinions they held six years ago). You don’t seek converts, you seek to punish and bully – straight white males who disagree with you must be purged and publicly humiliated. Even the jihadists will spare you if you convert; no apology or future correction will satisfy a SJW.

I could forgive that too if you weren’t all hypocrites and liars. Your treatment of women and minority dissenters is appalling; if they don’t want you acting on their behalf, that’s their choice, not “internalized patriarchy” or whatever. You rob them of moral agency. When called out for these behaviors (as you always insist on calling out others), you lie. You strawman your opponents (criticized a woman? misogynist!), you group them with the worst (you’re a gamer? you’re as bad as the anonymous rape threateners!) and when confronted with your own flaws, you restate them less threateningly (motte and bailey argument). You phrase all arguments as kafkatraps (disagreeing with your assertion that we are evil is taken as proof that we’re evil). You publish manipulated and misleading statistics, then lambast anyone who questions them.
You insist on vigilante justice against random acts of the week for your two-minutes hate. Why is it the NFL’s business to punish domestic violence? And, if it is their business, why isn’t Hope Solo receiving the same attention from your side?

Then you claim to be arguing for equality, but you’ve taken the idea of racism (hatred based on skin color is bad) and replaced it with a new concept where only one race can be guilty of racism. You excuse racial prejudice and hatred based on what I’ve already explained are arbitrary, unmeasured states of being. Your solution for the unequal treatment of whites and blacks is to hold whites to a higher standard. Your side lobbied the FBI to redefine rape so more women victims would be counted, but also so that “made to penetrate” does not count, leaving male victims in the cold. Because male privilege, apparently.

Historically ignorant SJWs think whites hold collective guilt for the awful things our ancestors have done. But they don’t care about the unspeakable atrocities by other races. The only difference between whites and others was that whites had the social and technological prowess to do evil efficiently; Africans, Asians, Indians, and everyone else practiced genocide and slavery, they were just less adept at doing it right. Given the means, they would have done the same. But nope, only whites are guilty; Arab oppression of blacks and caucasians never happened, not to us, nope.

I’ve been lucky enough to grow up in America, so this shit is new to me. But I’m descended from puritans, and I know my history; I know how they treated dissent. I also know how commies treated dissent; I grew up next door to a grizzled old Russian who barely avoided the gulag by smuggling himself out of the country. I know what you petty tyrants have turned into every time you gained enough power.

Worst of all, you turn the very principles of freedom against us. We tolerate you because we believe in free speech and civil discourse, not bullying and violence. But that means we have to watch you advocate against that very freedom. We don’t believe in ruining a stranger’s professional life over an opinion, but that means that we can’t punish your actions.

We believe that the rightness of our actions should speak for itself. You believe in bullying, even as you claim to love the oppressed.

Funny how the evil and all-powerful patriarchy has seen fit to act according to SJW whims for all of recent memory, punishing those they hate and protecting those they love. Funny how the evil oppressor males have to speak anonymously, while the SJWs fighting the power can use their real names and get mainstream media coverage for fun and profit. How when a million straight white male nerds get bullied, no one cares, but the minute one fag hangs himself, suddenly bullying matters – and the solution, of course, is more bullying, but by the “right” people.
That’s the arrogant core of it. You do the same evil, in the same pattern, as so many before you, because mob justice, punishing dissent, and repression of others is just fine and dandy so long as the “right” people are doing it to the “wrong” people.

Eat shit and die. All I ever asked was to be left alone.

Irving
01-01-2016, 01:16
This kind of killed my New Year's good attitude.

Reminds me of an interview I heard on NPR with some famous liberal, Gloria...somebody. Anyway, she was bragging about having had an illegal abortion back in the 1950's. She went on about how she would have been forced to go home and marry and wouldn't have been able to live the life that she had wanted. Essentially saying that the abortion had saved her from a life where factors other than her own will directed her life. Then, in the same interview talked about all the different forms of violence against women and what percentages of women experienced each form of violence. I thought it ironic that after pontificating on how grateful she was for having had the chance to have the life she wanted, she completely glossed over probably the largest violence against women, that also completely removes their chance at having the life of their choosing...abortion.

Anyway...

Ah Pook
01-01-2016, 02:20
We are fighting to end hate
As far as I read. Lost cause and over inflated opinion of themselves.

I visit social media very seldom and with great caution. These narcissistic diatribes don't even get a click.

All respect, Tan, but it's like arguing with a pigeon...

cstone
01-01-2016, 10:19
Anonymous = privileged, Anglo-Saxon, white, Christian, male [Sarcasm2]

I like the idea of arguing with pigeons. It is easier to make them go away when you get tired of them. [Coffee]

buffalobo
01-01-2016, 10:26
Anonymous = privileged, Anglo-Saxon, white, Christian, male [Sarcasm2]

I like the idea of arguing with pigeons. It is easier to make them go away when you get tired of them. [Coffee]
While arguing with pigeons does help to pass the time, I shoot them to make them go away.[emoji6]

Small part of reason to live in the country.

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HoneyBadger
01-01-2016, 10:33
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YwjORDnEQ8k/UzIXGAuX_CI/AAAAAAAAwO4/T67U9LuSzp0/s1600/arguing-with-idiots-is-like-playing-chess-with-a-pigeon.jpg

JohnnyDrama
01-01-2016, 10:55
Nice one HoneyBadger.

Ah Pook hit the nail on the head with this one.


I visit social media very seldom and with great caution. These narcissistic diatribes don't even get a click.

"Narcissism" has been getting a lot of discussion around my house lately. It wasn't until I read this that I realized how much social media panders to one's ego.

Bailey Guns
01-01-2016, 11:13
As far as I read. Lost cause and over inflated opinion of themselves.

I visit social media very seldom and with great caution. These narcissistic diatribes don't even get a click.

All respect, Tan, but it's like arguing with a pigeon...

You should've read the article. It wasn't a narcissistic diatribe. The author was using that first line as an example only and went on to explain why it's totally contrived, fabricated and evil. And he/she is correct.

TheGrey
01-01-2016, 11:47
I'm sorry that I harshed your buzz, Stu! That wasn't my intent at all.

For those of you that avoid social media types, the argument set out in this post is for discussions in real life, too. The problem with these ideas is that the pendulum continues its swing, regardless of whether you're paying attention or not. It does help to be able to slice through the convoluted leaps of 'logic' instead of wondering 'how in the world did they come to that conclusion?'

I thought that people might enjoy reading someone else's take on cutting through the BS.

Guylee
01-01-2016, 11:55
So true. My new years resolution is to become the racist, privileged white male the news keeps telling me I'm supposed to be.

Skip
01-01-2016, 12:17
I like it!

The only thing I would change...


The only difference between whites and others was that whites had the social and technological prowess to do evil efficiently

While there are some events that prove that is true, there are other atrocities that lacked technological advancements and were still horrific.

I remember being in high school, learning about Rwanda. The numbers were approaching 1M people murdered as part of an organized genocide. The primary weapons were machetes, rocks, and clubs. Pictures of innocent men, women, and children dead in mass groups left to rot (no burials).

I couldn't believe the savagery nor could I believe the UN, whose charter is to prevent genocide, stood by and watched.

cstone
01-01-2016, 12:56
Blue helmets serve tea to warriors.

Skip
01-01-2016, 13:46
Blue helmets serve tea to warriors.

I was young and naïve.

But no one should think genocide is unique to "white" people or is any more/less effective when "white" people do it.

BPTactical
01-01-2016, 17:22
So true. My new years resolution is to become the racist, privileged white male the news keeps telling me I'm supposed to be.

LOL, I guess I done had that resolve since I was born.

Ah Pook
01-01-2016, 22:58
You should've read the article. It wasn't a narcissistic diatribe. The author was using that first line as an example only and went on to explain why it's totally contrived, fabricated and evil. And he/she is correct.
Sometimes I sux at the interweb. Clicking the link made it more obvious.

Bailey Guns
01-02-2016, 01:27
I almost didn't read it either. But once I got past the first few sentences it become obvious I misunderstood the intent of that first line.

TheGrey
01-02-2016, 10:25
When I first posted this, it came out as a wall of text. I broke it up to make it a little easier to read. :)

ben4372
01-02-2016, 11:00
"Narcissism" has been getting a lot of discussion around my house lately. It wasn't until I read this that I realized how much social media panders to one's ego.
Yep. I get that it is really effecting younger types. But I'm perplexed that it has its hooks in formerly same people in their 40s and 50s. I guess I had higher hopes for older folks.
This really make any kind of collaboration tough. I'm seeing it more and more.

cstone
01-02-2016, 11:08
The politics of divide and conquer or segregate and subjugate.

I don't care where you come from, what you worship, who your mamma is, etc... as long as you swear an oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, dedicate your life to serving and improving your community and respect the rights of other citizens, you just may be an American just like me.