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archangel
01-04-2016, 01:50
Has any one used this I'm not sure how it mounts I got a kit from lee that included the press,powder measure,scale,primer pocket cleaner,case trimmer, and the bracket to mount the lee safety primer. The instructions say it includes everything to reload except the dies. I purchased a set of .223 dies but I don't understand how the powder measure mounts to the press.

brutal
01-04-2016, 01:59
Has any one used this I'm not sure how it mounts I got a kit from lee that included the press,powder measure,scale,primer pocket cleaner,case trimmer, and the bracket to mount the lee safety primer. The instructions say it includes everything to reload except the dies. I purchased a set of .223 dies but I don't understand how the powder measure mounts to the press.

You'll need a riser to attach the powder drop to a case die. Rifle charging die or pistol case expander die.

http://www.realguns.com/images/pwdrmsrwithacinstal.gif

The swivel adapter replaces the standard Auto-Disk actuator and allows the powder measure to remain stationary while a thumbwheel is turned to move the measure on or off the press. With the swivel installed, the measure can also be rotated and locked down in position to the operator's preference. This is a $6 part and can be purchased directly from Lee Precision. The Auto-Disk Riser is an extension that screws into a pistol expander die r which is hollow bodied to allow powder to pass through. The expander die also actuates the powder measure when the ram is raised to the top of its stroke. The riser is necessary for tray clearance when the Lee Safety Prime system is installed, and also where tall dies are in place that might interfere with the positioning of the powder measure. The riser is a $10 part.

Bottleneck rifle die sets do not typically have an expander die so the Auto-Disk Powder Measure is mounted to the turret in conjunction with the Rifle Charging Die. This is another powder through die with no other function than to support the Auto-Disk Powder Measure. The Riser can be used in concert with the Rifle Charging die to gain even more clearance where necessary.

http://www.realguns.com/archives/123.htm

KS63
01-04-2016, 11:33
PM'd

rondog
01-04-2016, 11:36
Reloaders Corner in Arvada probably has whatever you need in stock. He keeps a pretty good selection of stuff nowadays, not like years past. Prices are fair too, considering getting it now vs. ordering and waiting, shipping, etc.

Jamnanc
01-04-2016, 13:12
Lee Universal rifle charging die for rifle. Lee 4 die sets for pistol.

archangel
01-04-2016, 13:51
Thanks I appreciate it

rondog
01-04-2016, 14:01
Most Lee pistol die sets will have a Powder Through Expander Die, and that usually has an aluminum "funnel" screwed into the top. That's so you can put a plastic funnel in there to dump your powder in from the little yellow scoop that comes with the dies. Remove that aluminum funnel, and the Auto Disc Powder Measure screws into that die. There's an expander plug in that die, when you raise the case up into the die the plug goes into the case, forms the case to the right ID, expands the case mouth a tad for seating the bullet, and the plug also pushes up on the tube on the bottom of the Auto Disc unit, actuating the powder measure and dropping the charge through the center of the expander plug.

These are the parts to a Powder Through Expander die. The aluminum funnel is the piece on the left. Remove that, then screw in the powder measure in its place.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/ammo%20and%20reloading/Leeexpanderplug02.jpg

This is an Expander Plug, the center is hollow for the powder to fall through. Right in front of the shoulder there's a tiny taper that bells/expands the case mouth, and the shoulder limits the amount of belling/expanding. When the case hits the shoulder, that pushes the plug up and operates the powder measure.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/ammo%20and%20reloading/Leeexpanderplug.jpg

Rifle die sets don't have the expander plugs, but they operate the powder measure the same way. The Auto Disc doesn't have the capacity for large cases like .30-06 and such, you'll need to measure those charges with a scale and dump 'em by hand, or use some other kind of powder measure. If you get the Double Disc kit, you can do .223's OK.

Lee recently released their Auto Drum Powder Measure to take the place of the Auto Disc, and that solves that problem. It mounts and operates exactly the same way. You can also dial in powder charges more precisely with the Auto Drum. It's a modified version of their Perfect Powder Measure. Gotta get me one.

Some guys will buy an Auto Disc or Auto Drum measure for every set of dies and leave it mounted on there. I'm too cheap for that, and that won't work with my die storage method either. But getting a turret for every set of dies and leaving the dies mounted in the turret is outstanding, works very well, they're always setup and ready to go. I have a turret with a universal decapping die in it, one with a bullet puller die, and one with an RCBS powder measure in it. Extra turrets come in very handy.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/ammo%20and%20reloading/Drawers20.jpg

archangel
01-04-2016, 15:38
Most Lee pistol die sets will have a Powder Through Expander Die, and that usually has an aluminum "funnel" screwed into the top. That's so you can put a plastic funnel in there to dump your powder in from the little yellow scoop that comes with the dies. Remove that aluminum funnel, and the Auto Disc Powder Measure screws into that die. There's an expander plug in that die, when you raise the case up into the die the plug goes into the case, forms the case to the right ID, expands the case mouth a tad for seating the bullet, and the plug also pushes up on the tube on the bottom of the Auto Disc unit, actuating the powder measure and dropping the charge through the center of the expander plug.

These are the parts to a Powder Through Expander die. The aluminum funnel is the piece on the left. Remove that, then screw in the powder measure in its place.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/ammo%20and%20reloading/Leeexpanderplug02.jpg

This is an Expander Plug, the center is hollow for the powder to fall through. Right in front of the shoulder there's a tiny taper that bells/expands the case mouth, and the shoulder limits the amount of belling/expanding. When the case hits the shoulder, that pushes the plug up and operates the powder measure.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/ammo%20and%20reloading/Leeexpanderplug.jpg

Rifle die sets don't have the expander plugs, but they operate the powder measure the same way. The Auto Disc doesn't have the capacity for large cases like .30-06 and such, you'll need to measure those charges with a scale and dump 'em by hand, or use some other kind of powder measure. If you get the Double Disc kit, you can do .223's OK.

Lee recently released their Auto Drum Powder Measure to take the place of the Auto Disc, and that solves that problem. It mounts and operates exactly the same way. You can also dial in powder charges more precisely with the Auto Drum. It's a modified version of their Perfect Powder Measure. Gotta get me one.

Some guys will buy an Auto Disc or Auto Drum measure for every set of dies and leave it mounted on there. I'm too cheap for that, and that won't work with my die storage method either. But getting a turret for every set of dies and leaving the dies mounted in the turret is outstanding, works very well, they're always setup and ready to go. I have a turret with a universal decapping die in it, one with a bullet puller die, and one with an RCBS powder measure in it. Extra turrets come in very handy.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/ammo%20and%20reloading/Drawers20.jpg

That is an awesome set up I want to do something like that but right now I'm starting with .223 I will be reloading 308 and 9mm also

brutal
01-04-2016, 16:24
I'm getting tired of pulling the handle four times to load a round. I'm not planning on buying any more Lee stuff. My next reloading purchase will be a dillon progressive. Sadly, that's likely to be quite a while down the road.

archangel
01-04-2016, 19:37
The Dillon stuff is really nice I want to upgrade after I learn more this was a budget press until I get it down I'm new to reloading I just wanted to shoot more and more accurate

KS63
01-04-2016, 19:56
I'm getting tired of pulling the handle four times to load a round. I'm not planning on buying any more Lee stuff. My next reloading purchase will be a dillon progressive. Sadly, that's likely to be quite a while down the road.
Dangerous waters! You'll start out small then it's gets out of hand. I'll pull the handle on my Dillon even if I'm not loading because it's so smooth and solid feeling.....This doesn't sound like a reloading thread anymore.....I'm leaving now.... :(

rondog
01-04-2016, 22:52
Dangerous waters! You'll start out small then it's gets out of hand. I'll pull the handle on my Dillon even if I'm not loading because it's so smooth and solid feeling.....This doesn't sound like a reloading thread anymore.....I'm leaving now.... :(
Sounds like you might need a cigarette now.....

jerrymrc
01-05-2016, 18:12
The auto disk works well for ball powder. It is too inconsistent with stick powder. The PPM works well on stick powder but sucks at ball. Just my observation. I have the turret setup and like it. http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac44/jerrymrc/toys/Picture475Medium.jpg (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/jerrymrc/media/toys/Picture475Medium.jpg.html)