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Zundfolge
01-07-2016, 23:08
Ian and Karl at InRangeTV have been doing mud tests on several rifles.

So far most have failed miserably (including the AK ... yes you read that right the AK ... but it gets worse for you commie gun lovers*, the AR passed with flying colors).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU

Links to some of the other vids (no sense in embedding all of them)

M1 Garand (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6J5m4_Is_s)
Full review of KelTec RDB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQRUl_iFEA) (new 556 bullpup ... includes mud test but is about an hour long ... mud test runs from 30:27 to 45:28)
M1A vs MAS 49/56 vs AR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYfGq1yk66Q)(slightly different methodology than the others ... oh and the TL;DR version is that the MAS and AR do well ... M1A not so much)

Now we sit and wait for the AK fanboys to come unglued and find all sorts of fault with the test. :p


* That's lovers of a "commie gun" not commies that love guns.

Rooskibar03
01-07-2016, 23:49
I came here for dead beef and was left disappointed.

cstone
01-08-2016, 00:00
63236

roberth
01-08-2016, 07:21
63236

:)

cfortune
01-08-2016, 08:38
I find it kind of funny that the test with the open dust cover on the AR sends a nice dust cover sized twig or something flying on the first round.

HoneyBadger
01-08-2016, 10:34
Throw some Quikrete into that wheelbarrow and see how they perform... [Muaha]

Martinjmpr
01-08-2016, 10:42
Meh. IMO the SKS is a superior rifle anyway.

ETA: Superior to the AK I mean. ;) I think the AR is superior to both, especially in its current configuration.

wctriumph
01-08-2016, 13:53
That was fun.

y4m4
01-08-2016, 16:13
Hahaha, oh dear. Anyone wanna trade their AR for my AMD63? [Peep]

ray1970
01-08-2016, 17:24
This test is invalid. That AK looks like some sort of Century Arms model.
[Coffee]



On a serious note, I've never taken these sorts of tests too seriously. They aren't very scientific. For starters, they use one specific firearm and not a sample of them. I mean all they really proved is that their one particular AK didn't perform well in this particular test. It really has no impact on how another AK may perform. Or the AR for that matter. I will be careful with my AK's just in case. I'll try to avoid intentionally making a wheelbarrow full of sloppy mud and then shoveling it all over my rifle. Just in case.

TFOGGER
01-08-2016, 18:47
Can't make an AR out of a shit shovel...
[ROFL1]

SVT40
01-09-2016, 12:00
Now that US equipment has been available as battle field pick-ups due to ISIS invading northern Iraq, I have seen more AR pattern rifles in the hands of various factions fighting the Middle East. I don't think they would use them if they didn't have to so maybe these rifle are holding up better in the hands of a "conscript army" than originally thought possible?

Guylee
01-09-2016, 12:56
Fun stuff. Always cracks me up when people say AR's aren't reliable. Newsflash-we're not in Vietnam anymore.

bryjcom
01-09-2016, 17:49
Sample sized is crucial in these tests... One AK vs one AR is not really valid although fun to watch.

I'd be curious to see how they perform in sandy conditions. I've seen AKs run despite people kicking sand and dirt into the action.

flogger
01-09-2016, 20:02
Good debate. What about ice, slush and snow?