Iran detention of US Sailors

[hollohas]

I couldn't find a thread on this subject yet.

I think you all know the headline by now. The sailors have been released, thankfully. However, I have to ask, how the hell did this happen?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/13/iran-claims-10-u-s-sailors-have-been-released-one-day-after-being-detained/

From these Iranian state media pictures, it looks like we had two Riverine Command Boats (or similar) captured by a bunch of Iranian center console fishing boats??? I know the US media reports are the sailors had mechanical issues, but on both boats at the same time? What are the odds of that? Reports are we got the boats back and they continued on their missions with new crews, so the mechanical issues couldn’t have been that serious. And if they weren’t that serious, why in the world would two of our baddass boats surrender to lame little Iranian boats? What up with that?

Super glad we got our guys and gal back ok. I don’t envy them while they get “debriefed” about this situation.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/01/iran%201_0.jpg

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/01/iran%204_0.jpg

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/01/iran%208_0.jpg

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-13/latest-humiliation-obama-iran-just-released-photos-arrest-10-us-sailors

[Martinjmpr]

I'm guessing there were very tight ROE. Don't need to be starting a shooting war by accident.

[trlcavscout]

At least we apologized :)

[StagLefty]

USN just living up to their motto "join the Navy and see the world" now includes Iran [Sarcasm2]

[hollohas]

We'll never know the truth, but here's my take. I don't think our sailors had mechanical issues nor did they drift off course. Those boats travel in pairs for a reason. And I'm sure they have the best nav available. Had a boat broken down, the other would have towed it long before they "drifted" into Iranian waters.

I think our sailors were attacked by Iran. And WE apologized.

[Bailey Guns]

Barack Obama is officially Iran's bitch.

[roberth]

Barack Obama is officially Iran's bitch.

Yah he is.

[BPTactical]

Something isn't right about the "official" story.
It just makes no sense.

[hurley842002]

We'll never know the truth, but here's my take. I don't think our sailors had mechanical issues nor did they drift off course. Those boats travel in pairs for a reason. And I'm sure they have the best nav available. Had a boat broken down, the other would have towed it long before they "drifted" into Iranian waters.

I think our sailors were attacked by Iran. And WE apologized.

Not a bad theory, definitely something fishy going on, and I'm not even a tin foil type.

[sellersm]

Bracken states what he thinks happened: https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/bracken-on-iran/

[hurley842002]

Bracken states what he thinks happened: https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/bracken-on-iran/

Easy for me to say, as I sit on my comfy couch at home, but if the integrity of ALL crew members will come thru, hopefully the correct account of the incident will come to surface.

[wctriumph]

Something isn't right about the "official" story.
It just makes no sense.

I don't think ANY official "story" from this administration has made sense, ever.

[hollohas]

Bracken states what he thinks happened: https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/bracken-on-iran/
I like Bracken. Seems legit.

[Dave]

Things don't add up. I do have to wonder if Iran has something to confuse the GPS on our boats or disable the equipment. They took over a drone a couple of years ago and forced it to land there. Also, why are US troops just up and surrendering to approaching boats? Those .50 cals would have turned the fishing boats into a new spot for coral to grow. Even putting a few warning shots into the water would have made the Iranians think twice about going any further.

[wctriumph]

We were told to stand down.

No, no one said to stand down.

Yes they did, twice.

No, you are mistaken, no one would say that.

Well they did say that.

No, it was a video.

[Irving]

Is this outcome not better than war?

[hollohas]

Is this outcome not better than war?
It is, but implying that war is the only other possible outcome is a huge assumption.

Perhaps another possble outcome to a situation like this would be our sailors defend themselves and their equipement, our government supports them and insists that they were attacked by Iran and then America demands an appology from THEM.

[theGinsue]

Is this outcome not better than war?

You are thinking too thin on this, think deeper. The images of U.S. sailors on their knees, hands on their heads, surrendering to the Iranians are very powerful tools of propaganda for our enemies and perspective enemies.

[Zundfolge]

Gas is $1.69/gal
There's a new Star Wars movie in theaters
We have a grossly incompetent Democrat in the White House
Iran is holding American's hostage


https://images.rapgenius.com/0040b864f9748f223bff66b883ec270c.480x360x1.jpg

[Irving]

You are thinking too thin on this, think deeper. The images of U.S. sailors on their knees, hands on their heads, surrendering to the Iranians are very powerful tools of propaganda for our enemies and perspective enemies.

I suppose. If things keep going down that path, then one day some Iranians will be in for a disappointing shock when we stop laying down and forget to tell Iran about it.

[Stevensje]

Does Iran confiscate the Boats? How much are they worth?

[Joe_K]

Wait so your telling me the U.S. Navy got used as political pawns by our own government???? Say it ain't so!

[DavieD55]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oB5O9zZbSk

[roberth]

Gas is $1.69/gal
There's a new Star Wars movie in theaters
We have a grossly incompetent Democrat in the White House
Iran is holding American's hostage




[Beer]

This administration is a complete failure. What they should have done immediately after getting our sailors back is identify and sink every single Iranian vessel involved. Unfortunately obama can't do that to his Iranian allies.


You are thinking too thin on this, think deeper. The images of U.S. sailors on their knees, hands on their heads, surrendering to the Iranians are very powerful tools of propaganda for our enemies and perspective enemies.

Exactly right.

We're already at war with Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, anyplace where Islam is the government, the United States may not recognize the state of war but Islam certainly does.

[Skip]

I like Bracken. Seems legit.

Bracken nails it. The only thing I don't like is you have to go to about 10 different places to read all of his posts that stitch all the details together.

Iranians having an English speaker, on a patrol, with backup nearby, to intercept two Riverine boats having mechanical difficulties before they could radio/receive help (jammed comms?). Perfectly reasonable story. Huge feat for such a capable navy...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/guardian/About/General/2011/12/28/1325090697385/Iranian-submarine-in-the--007.jpg

I'm happy our sailors got out alive though.

[DavieD55]

This administration is a complete failure.


They're failing us but are succeeding at weakening our country in every way they possibly can.

[roberth]

They're failing us but are succeeding at weakening our country in every way they possibly can.

Yup, remember what the boy-king said. No country will be greater than any other country, or some such horsepuckey.

[HoneyBadger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oB5O9zZbSk
This sums up how about 70% of the military feels about him. The other 30% are either indifferent to politics or Bernie supporters.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I'm not buying one word of the official story but I never have when it comes out of this administration. If I ever came across the former admiral who is now the State Department's spokesman, the only thing I could bring myself to say to him would be ask how the hell he shaved in the morning with the utter s--t he peddles.

[BPTactical]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oB5O9zZbSk

And just think, those are the reactions of the military leaders JugEars has kept.
Now look at the ones he has purged, what do you think the look on McCrystal and Petraeus's faces would be?

[HoneyBadger]

And just think, those are the reactions of the military leaders JugEars has kept.
Now look at the ones he has purged, what do you think the look on McCrystal and Petraeus's faces would be?
They were probably sitting at home drinking their hatred away during the SOTU.

[Skip]

And just think, those are the reactions of the military leaders JugEars has kept.
Now look at the ones he has purged, what do you think the look on McCrystal and Petraeus's faces would be?

I'm wondering why so many of the purged general officers have stayed silent.

[roberth]

I'm wondering why so many of the purged general officers have stayed silent.

Decorum?

[BushMasterBoy]

I'm wondering why so many of the purged general officers have stayed silent.

Operational secrecy, strategy and policy. Funny shaped building...learn to read between the lines.

[BPTactical]

Fear of sudden heart attacks, mysterious single car accidents or being Vince Fostered would be my guess.


I can't wait to see what comes forward once JugEars is out of office.

[Skip]

Fear of sudden heart attacks, mysterious single car accidents or being Vince Fostered would be my guess.

I can't wait to see what comes forward once JugEars is out of office.

That's all I can come up with.


Operational secrecy, strategy and policy. Funny shaped building...learn to read between the lines.

Yup, just waiting for the right moment. Before Iran gets nukes. Before the settlement of refugeehadists in the US and the fall of Europe. Before the election of Hillary Clinton. Before an attempted mass disarmament of the American people.

Timing is critical.

[wctriumph]

Would giving any of these persons a swift kick in the crotch be protected as political free speech? Not that any of them as anything in the crotch to kick anyway.

[Dave]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/iran-warns-us-we-have-even-more-embarrassing-footage-your-captured

Iran says they pulled data from laptops and cell phones in addition to the 2 sat phone SIM cards they kept. Plus they claim to have footage of a sailor trying to apologize for their actions. Wonder if Kerry will address this.

[Bailey Guns]

I've seen the video of the leader of the boat mission saying, while in custody, they screwed up and it was their fault.