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Is what the headlines should read if what the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community, General I. Charles McCullough III, has written about in an unclassified letter to the Senate Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence actually goes before a Federal judge. It would appear that it took special access and permission for FBI agents and members of the Intelligence Community IG's Office to look at the contents of what was on Hillary Clinton's private server, which included SAP (Special Access Programs) and SCI (Special Compartmentalized Information). Both SAP and SCI documents are special "read on" material that goes beyond just having the proper clearance, individuals must also be read on to that material took keep the scope and access limited (see "Need-to-know"). This is extremely serious stuff here. I may have only been at Battalion level while working in Army Intelligence, but I was read on to SCI at Division and Brigade Level that was appropriate for my level of work (which was not a lot of stuff, but enough that it protected operations and operators within our area of responsibility), and that isn't even close to the level of information Clinton was read on to. Now, I don't know how the non-military side of the Government works with SCI, but I do know that in the Army SCI material was closely guarded material that was only able to be accessed and viewed within a Secret Compartmentalized Information Facility (SCIF), that was only accessed by individuals with a Top Secret clearance, and were on the approved read-on list. These facilities are more secure than a bank vault, and require those accessing them to check in phones, computer equipment, and even car keys with fobs due to the security measures protecting data from being transmitted or transferred. Documents were not allowed to leave without tight security measures and must have approval from higher ups.
So with Clinton, and her having severely sensitive material on an unclassified server, this is beyond just a small time security breach like Edward Snowden or Bradley Manning. This is 100x worse than General Petraeus and his charges. Even if the DOJ refuses to indict, AG Lynch could be facing charges herself for dereliction of duty. This is serious enough that compromises to SCI or SAP could cost lives and end operations that have been years in the making. This is big, and could mean federal prison for the would-be candidate. I sure hope something actually comes of this, although I have my reservations.
Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.
Fox News exclusively obtained the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).
That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.
“To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one [intelligence community] element. These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret, and top secret/sap levels,” said the IG letter to lawmakers with oversight of the intelligence community and State Department. “According to the declarant, these documents contain information derived from classified IC element sources.”
Intelligence from a "special access program,” or SAP, is even more sensitive than that designated as "top secret" – as were two emails identified last summer in a random sample pulled from Clinton's private server she used as secretary of state. Access to a SAP is restricted to those with a "need-to-know" because exposure of the intelligence would likely reveal the source, putting a method of intelligence collection -- or a human asset -- at risk. Currently, some 1,340 emails designated “classified” have been found on Clinton’s server, though the Democratic presidential candidate insists the information was not classified at the time.
“There is absolutely no way that one could not recognize SAP material,” a former senior law enforcement with decades of experience investigating violations of SAP procedures told Fox News. “It is the most sensitive of the sensitive.”
Full Story including the letter (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html)
It'll be interesting to see if this one sticks. Others have not. What a farce.
And by farce, I mean that this is something that most American's should care about, but don't seem to.
Hillary for Prison 2016 - I hope this tears the communist party apart.
How many officers and enlisted have lost their careers for messing around with subordinates?
How many civilian supervisors have lost careers and their livelihoods for messing around with subordinates?
Now, what happened to Bill when he was caught red-handed and repeatedly lying about it to everyone?
Obama will become President of the UN and Hillary will follow him all the way.
We will not be free from them meddling in our lives for many more years.
Hillary for Prison 2016 - I hope this tears the communist party apart.
I'll to that! I say throw oblowme and holder in with her ass
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sneakerd
01-20-2016, 20:19
Nothing is going to happen. The Clintons are too rich, too powerful and too popular.
Hell, they've even got Hillary on the record telling an aide how to violate the law by removing the body from the header of the confidential document and placing it in the email.
http://youtu.be/o2ivPLpLCgs
Bailey Guns
01-20-2016, 21:17
I don't know. With every day that goes by more information comes out that makes me think she really screwed the pooch this time. I'm not sure anyone's big enough to get out of the hole she's dug. There are over 150 FBI agents investigating this. I think Hillary isn't looking real good in this.
Hillary doesn't look good in anything. I don't care how much scotch is involved.
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Scanker19
01-20-2016, 21:22
... could mean federal prison for the would-be candidate....
hahahahaha!!!!!!
Bailey Guns
01-20-2016, 22:15
Honestly, I don't even care if she goes to prison. I think she should...for a long time. But I'd be satisfied if she was indicted and took a plea deal...as long as her life was effectively ruined and she had no chance at any other public office. She deserves at least that.
HoneyBadger
01-20-2016, 22:59
I'd like to see her hang, but..
Nevermind. There is no "but".
mtnrider
01-20-2016, 23:27
I'd like to see her hang, but..
Nevermind. There is no "but".
Exactly, will never happen. No matter how much evidence they have no one will ever push the button on her I guarantee. The "investigation" into her emails is merely a formality that will go on and on until it just fades away.
Honestly, I don't even care if she goes to prison. I think she should...for a long time. But I'd be satisfied if she was indicted and took a plea deal...as long as her life was effectively ruined and she had no chance at any other public office. She deserves at least that.
Ruined while still a billionaire?
hahahahaha
don't make me put her fugly mug up here.
68Charger
01-20-2016, 23:50
This just means more potential witnesses will have to commit Arkancide...
President Trump will pardon Hillary with all the pomp and buffoonery of a reality freak show.
Bailey Guns
01-21-2016, 07:21
Or maybe President Cruz will ship her sorry ass to Guantanamo.
Jeffrey Lebowski
01-21-2016, 07:23
Nothing is going to happen. The Clintons are too rich, too powerful and too popular.
Bingo. The law is for you and me. Not Hillary Clinton.
How many officers and enlisted have lost their careers for messing around with subordinates?
How many civilian supervisors have lost careers and their livelihoods for messing around with subordinates?
Now, what happened to Bill when he was caught red-handed and repeatedly lying about it to everyone?
Obama will become President of the UN and Hillary will follow him all the way.
We will not be free from them meddling in our lives for many more years.
Did you even read the post/article? Nothing mentioned about needing around with subordinates... :/
I don't know. With every day that goes by more information comes out that makes me think she really screwed the pooch this time. I'm not sure anyone's big enough to get out of the hole she's dug. There are over 150 FBI agents investigating this. I think Hillary isn't looking real good in this.
Not to mention they had to have those agents read on to SAP and SCI that was revealed. That takes special permission. Hillary herself even said in '08: "No bank too big to fail, no person too powerful to jail." They should play that when she appears before a judge.
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Martinjmpr
01-21-2016, 07:47
I dunno. Seems unlikely to me. I was in MI in the Army as well and know full well what SCI and SAP stuff is, but my guess is that she'll weasel out of it and the AG will not indict. Sure, there'll be a stink but from a legal standpoint I don't see this going anywhere.
Politically it's a different story. This may or may not be enough to knock Hillary out of the democratic race. I don't think it is, but it's certainly going to damage her.
Richard K
01-21-2016, 08:54
... could mean federal prison for the would-be candidate....
hahahahaha!!!!!!
I bet nothing will come of it. If she is charged Obama will pardon her.
Martinjmpr
01-21-2016, 09:09
I bet nothing will come of it. If she is charged Obama will pardon her.
I don't see Obama dirtying his hands with a pardon. That would be bad for his legacy. All he has to do is pick up his phone (you know that phone he loves so much) and tell the AG not to prosecute. The AG has wide discretion in deciding who to prosecute and who not to prosecute and she works for the president.
Hitlary has about as much chance of going to jail over this as Bill did for perjuring himself in front of a Grand Jury. Laws are for the plebes, not the rulers.
Aloha_Shooter
01-21-2016, 11:17
[tinhat]
It's been known for a long time that the Obamas and the Clintons hated each other. The fact she was using a private email account CAN'T, I repeat CAN'T, have been news to Obama in 2014 or even 2013. What if this is just coming out now precisely because Obama wants to undermine her campaign and solidify control of the Democratic Party under the Socialist wing? I've always felt Hillary was more radical than she admitted BUT she's also in it for her own enrichment and power and that makes her somewhat more malleable than Obama.
Notice that even the Washington Post and New York Times are no longer deferring to Billy Boy but asking him tough questions about his sexual assaults and the FBI investigation has reportedly expanded to look at corruption at the Clinton Foundation in general.
Perhaps this is all intended to misdirect public attention from Obama's own misdeeds and dump all the public attention and rage on Hillary. I think Hillary should be in prison already for a whole variety of things but BOTH Hillary and Obama ignored the plight of American personnel in an ONGOING firefight that they had live video feeds on. Hillary ran the diversion of American national security interests at the State Department but it was in response to Obama's plans and directions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
15 passes and 1 gorilla...sounds like the Republican primary race...[facepalm]
Did you even read the post/article? Nothing mentioned about needing around with subordinates... :/
Blinded by trying to call me out? I assumed my point was fairly obvious.
For the new academy grads, my point was: Proper punishment for crimes committed does not seem to apply to the Clintons as it does to everyone else.
They not teaching critical thinking in schools anymore?
Ideally, Hitlary should be indicted, but not until the Democratic National Convention has anointed her Queen. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if the D candidate in the election was jailed on federal felony charges? Bwahahahahah. I know, not gonna happen, but one can wish, can't one?
Bailey Guns
01-21-2016, 14:49
A lot of you guys are putting the cart before the horse here. She's not going to get pardoned by Obama because he'll be long gone by the time she's convicted of anything (assuming she's convicted). If she's indicted it'll take a few years to get to a trial and that's assuming she doesn't take some sort of deal.
With what's happening to Petraeus right now it's going to be awfully hard for anyone, especially the AG, to look the other way over Clinton's misdeeds. And I agree with AS...I'm not so sure Obama's not just a little happy - privately, of course - over this whole situation. I can't imagine the outcry from the FBI if they send an indictment recommendation to Lynch and she decides not to proceed.
Sometimes you fuck up so bad no one can cover for you. Nixon found that out. Hell...Hillary's husband damn near found out.
My money is on an indictment...or at least a recommendation to indict after the investigation is concluded.
hollohas
01-21-2016, 15:32
I kinda think Obama has been part of this entire process. The Obamas and Clintons hate each other. My money is on this revelation is actually a controlled drip until the time is right to destroy her.
The Dems will have someone ready to fill her spot. Someone undamaged by the primary race. I still think that spot could easily be filled by Bernie. He's undamaged and let's be real, all dems are socialists anyway. He's also showing lots of grassroots support.
Or Uncle Joe. He has been pretty public about how he regrets not running recently.... not sure how far they can get into the primary season before it's too late for him to jump in however.
I think he Clintons are done. The public largely doesn't swoon over them like they used to. I think there's a real chance she isn't able to shrug this one off.
I am thinking Obama wants her to get indicted. I believe he is delaying the FBI from acting so that the Dems will have to scramble at the end and who will be left standing there with his hand up? Biden, they will get behind him as if he is the new breath of fresh air when in fact, he would be the same old crap and would literally be the 3rd term for Obama.
Hillary has been kissing Obama's butt for the last few weeks pretty hard on the campaign trail, in my opinion this is just sucking up so the doesn't drop the hammer on her.
The other possibility is Elizabeth Warren... Would not be surprised to see her and Biden potentially fight it out unless they just straight out pick Biden, then you can bet she will be the VP selection.
Mark it down!
Biden/Warren will be advertised as the new hotness and the progressive libs will drool all over it!
I think she is obama's frado, and he has let her hang, pretty soon a trip to the lake.
68Charger
01-21-2016, 19:08
Could be political timing, but it's likely that people are afraid to bring charges against a family that has such a large deadpool around them (all people that are either witnesses, prosecutors, or otherwise could seriously damage their career).
So either that will result in no charges (due to a lack of intestinal fortitude), or additional Arkancides when charges are brought.
I'm certain the threats are flying already.
With all the corruption throughout all three branches, I hope they indict Hillary, who then airs other's dirty laundry, and we then get to witness a snowball of scumbags eating each other.
I can only dream.
With all the corruption throughout all three branches, I hope they indict Hillary, who then airs other's dirty laundry, and we then get to witness a snowball of scumbags eating each other.
I can only dream.
That would be fantastic to watch.
BushMasterBoy
01-21-2016, 19:38
The truth be known we would have to triple the size of SuperMax. Three sections, Executive, Legislative and Judicial.
You'll see monkeys fly out of my ass before you see ANYTHING legal happen to Hillary.
BPTactical
01-21-2016, 21:02
Insert Elizabeth Warren here:
I have always envisioned them all (545) tried for treason and gallows built on both sides of the relflecting pool at the washington monument.
Jeez, I just count sheep to fall asleep...
I wish, but just like anything else everything will get brushed aside and she'll avoid any punishment. Just like her "husband", she'll walk free while any of the rest of us would be in jail for the same or even lesser infractions.
Great-Kazoo
01-21-2016, 22:12
With all the corruption throughout all three branches, I hope they indict Hillary, who then airs other's dirty laundry, and we then get to witness a snowball of scumbags eating each other.
I can only dream.
Dreaming of Hillary and Palin. Nice multi-tasking. One dream to live off, the other to sober up by.
Insert Elizabeth Warren here:
That sounds painful regardless of which orifice "here" is.
Great-Kazoo
01-22-2016, 01:06
That sounds painful regardless of which orifice "here" is.
Gives new meaning to Pocawarren eh?
On a serious note. Raise your hand if you believe HRC will face anything, other than being trounced by THE BERN in IA.
This is a campaign we can all support:
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Miscellaneous/Hillary%20for%20prison_zpspjeo2oyb.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Miscellaneous/Hillary%20for%20prison_zpspjeo2oyb.jpg.html)
I've seen one of those already...not on my car though...don't want to get keyed.
I've seen one of those already...not on my car though...don't want to get keyed.
If I had one now, I'd slap it in my work car that I'm turning in today. I bet I'd be weeks before someone noticed and pulled it off.
On a serious note. Raise your hand if you believe HRC will face anything, other than being trounced by THE BERN in IA.
[pick-me] If not in this life, then the next. I believe we all face judgement at least once in our existence. Those with a conscience face it multiple times each day.
HoneyBadger
01-22-2016, 09:52
I've seen one of those already...not on my car though...don't want to get keyed.
I would love to put one of those on my car, but I really don't want to get in any UCMJ trouble... Maybe I could get a bunch and just slap them on every car in the parking lot outside the building I work in... including the 3-Star's car :D
If the Clintons weren't held accountable for Foster, Bill's crimes against women, questionable business dealings, or the body count in Arkansas, I doubt the hildabeast will be held accountable for this.
68Charger
01-22-2016, 10:06
I'll say it again- it would take a prosecutor that's not afraid of being Arkancided (if you're not familiar with the term, it's like shooting yourself in the back of the head twice, but it's ruled a suicide), and/or not afraid of killing their political career within the Democrat party.
At least this will make a sweet History Channel documentary 50 years from now. Or a great TLC reality show 2 months from now.
JohnnyDrama
01-22-2016, 11:20
If the Clintons weren't held accountable for Foster, Bill's crimes against women, questionable business dealings, or the body count in Arkansas, I doubt the hildabeast will be held accountable for this.
One big difference now is that Bill had a good-ol'-boy likability that I think got him out of all sorts of transgressions.
Great-Kazoo
01-22-2016, 11:31
One big difference now is that Bill had a good-ol'-boy likability that I think got him out of all sorts of transgressions.
Bill could be caught with his penis in a 17 yd old boys mouth and the media would still echo that famous saying.
it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president."
Hillary while not Bill, has one thing and one thing only keeping her afloat. She has a vagina.
There are players in politics that would do their best to get her elected, at any cost. To the D party, the country, anything.
Her coronation has been decades in the works, the power brokers in the shadows pull the strings.
Man, I wish I had a vagina.
Man, I wish I had a vagina.
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68Charger
01-22-2016, 13:05
Man, I wish I had a vagina.
There are so many ways to go with this, some of them not even misogynistic... just too easy.
Great-Kazoo
01-22-2016, 13:51
Man, I wish I had a vagina.
Pre-Op ?
HoneyBadger
01-22-2016, 15:08
Man, I wish I had a vagina.
You can get that fixed down in Trinidad. I think TheGinsue knows a guy. Er... ahhh... a person. The Ginsue knows a person that can help with that.
Man, I wish I had a vagina.
http://youtu.be/ZJL4UGSbeFg
BushMasterBoy
01-22-2016, 16:10
Women minus the W=The Omen
KestrelBike
01-22-2016, 19:04
I'd like to see her hang, but..
Nevermind. There is no "but".
I'm ordering pizza the day she strokes out.
I'm ordering pizza FOR EVERYONE the day she strokes out.
FIFY
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hollohas
01-22-2016, 22:45
I can't stop thinking of this family guy scene. The mayor West is like Hillary and Lois is like Trump. This is exactly what our debates will be like if those two are the nominees. And the American voters are exactly like the crowd
https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI
Great-Kazoo
01-23-2016, 00:41
What an evil cow of a woman. Come on Karma! Figure she has caused enough harm to warrant something bad smacking her up side the head.
It sure the hell ain't bill's penis
Be a shame if she choked on a soggy cigar
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