View Full Version : DIY Polymer lowers. Interesting...
www.ar15mold.com
Basically, cast your own polymer lowers. The manufacturer of the kits claims that they are high strength, and accept milspec parts. They have a number of videos on Youtube showing the process and completed rifles.
Thoughts?
Grant H.
01-22-2016, 17:18
Interesting, but I've never been a fan of polymer lowers on AR's.
I've done a few aluminum 80% with the drill press and router jig, and they have come out just fine.
thvigil11
01-22-2016, 18:12
I'd use the mold to make assault rifle jello shots.
68Charger
01-22-2016, 18:24
I can see this process being useful for making other things, but forged 7075 lowers (80% or 100%) aren't expensive enough for this to make any sense- but to each their own. There's not even a significant weight savings- they use 6oz of resin- so even considering some doesn't go in, some becomes casting flash, etc... maybe 5.7Oz compared to 8.7Oz for a forged 7075 stripped lower
The process itself is interesting- i checked out their youtube videos...
I assume they're CNC milling cutting board material to make the mold, and I'd be curious about the tensile strength of the resin- properties could probably be improved with the addition of other materials, but then it probably wouldn't pour anymore (and would require injection molding)
Can you use the mold for melted aluminium beer cans instead?
68Charger
01-22-2016, 18:31
Can you use the mold for melted aluminium beer cans instead?
mold appears to be cutting board material... so you'd have to make molds out of a material that could withstand those temperatures, and you'd still have a bad alloy (beer cans are cheap alloy)
I can see this process being useful for making other things, but forged 7075 lowers (80% or 100%) aren't expensive enough for this to make any sense- but to each their own. There's not even a significant weight savings- they use 6oz of resin- so even considering some doesn't go in, some becomes casting flash, etc... maybe 5.7Oz compared to 8.7Oz for a forged 7075 stripped lower
The process itself is interesting- i checked out their youtube videos...
I assume they're CNC milling cutting board material to make the mold, and I'd be curious about the tensile strength of the resin- properties could probably be improved with the addition of other materials, but then it probably wouldn't pour anymore (and would require injection molding)
Agreed, with stripped lowers at ~$50 or less, this doesn't make sense. However, remembering the panic prices of early 2013, this might be an alternative. I too am interested in the properties (Ductile and tensile strength, fatigue resistance, thermal properties, etc.), but they have videos online showing them putting 100 rounds or so through a rifle built on one of these lowers, and another one showing them running one over with an F150, then fitting a milspec upper to it, so I was somewhat intrigued by the concept.
68Charger
01-22-2016, 19:17
They did test for thermal properties, and drove a truck over a stripped lower...
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Great-Kazoo
01-22-2016, 22:09
The perfect item for 22 uppers. IF a D gets elected (looking like it every day) You could be making them out of playdoh and there be a line out the door for them.
I'd rather see something geared towards magazines.
blacklabel
01-22-2016, 22:12
I don't mind polymer lowers as long as they have metal reinforcements. I don't think I'd trust this after reading how much effort goes into developing a well functioning polymer lower.
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