Going down to Cali

[ColoradoTJ]

One of my buddies needs a help getting his Dad back to Colorado. It just so happens his Dad lives in Southern California.
I have been doing a little light reading on weapons in vehicles. Looks like my pistol has to be unloaded in a locked case while driving in CA?
We are taking my vehicle, and he will be carrying the whole time (Fed officer), so that is at least better than nothing.

We are leaving the ARs at home since that is a shitstorm I really do not want to deal with. Kinda bummed, I used to go shooting all the time in the desert when I last lived there in 97'.

I just want to get some information from you guys to double check my research.

Thank you for any input.

[Fromk]

You are correct on the locked container but there's more. This is in layman's terms to keep it simple.

It has to be in a trunk or out of reach of the driver which generally means the back of the vehicle.

A locked container can be as simple as a backpack with a little lock on it. That's how I transported mine back in the day.

Ammo must be "in a separate container" which means magazines are not touching the gun. A pistol rug with a pocket counts. Basically means the gun isn't loaded at all.

I think that sums it up. That info is 5 years old but I'm pretty sure things haven't changed in that area.

[ColoradoTJ]

You are correct on the locked container but there's more. This is in layman's terms to keep it simple.

It has to be in a trunk or out of reach of the driver which generally means the back of the vehicle.

A locked container can be as simple as a backpack with a little lock on it. That's how I transported mine back in the day.

Ammo must be "in a separate container" which means magazines are not touching the gun. A pistol rug with a pocket counts. Basically means the gun isn't loaded at all.

I think that sums it up. That info is 5 years old but I'm pretty sure things haven't changed in that area.

Thank you for your input on the topic. I hate that state....

[O2HeN2]

Since you're not travelling through and/or you may be staying at least a night within California, FOPA may not protect you (not sure, anyone have better information?)

If FOPA does not protect you, then California's "approved firearm" list might kick in. Again, not sure.

O2

[Great-Kazoo]

You are correct on the locked container but there's more. This is in layman's terms to keep it simple.

It has to be in a trunk or out of reach of the driver which generally means the back of the vehicle.

A locked container can be as simple as a backpack with a little lock on it. That's how I transported mine back in the day.

Ammo must be "in a separate container" which means magazines are not touching the gun. A pistol rug with a pocket counts. Basically means the gun isn't loaded at all.

I think that sums it up. That info is 5 years old but I'm pretty sure things haven't changed in that area.

Small plastic ammo can with hand gun inside, secured with a combo lock. WE keep ours under the seat in the storage box the vehicle has. Combo lock is closed. BUT.... Set on last digit, this way if needed a simple move has the can open. To the quick scan of someone. it appears locked. Which one can do buy a simple turn of the knob.
Mags or speed loaders other side of vehicle (storage area)
https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M4b8d788423a27c35d7f8eeaa78266f04o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=206&h=155


WE travel with a lever action ( 50 STATE LEGAL) in easy reach. Loaded But UNCHAMBERED. That sits in another rifle case, easy access. Also a shotgun 18" bbl, with retractable stock.
I carry a revolver, the spouse has her 26. Both are in ammo cans under the seat, speed loader and mag in very easy to reach storage area. We make 2 trips per year to CA and have been traveling this way for over a decade.
The Carbines have the bullet buttons installed with 10 round mags. Again CA legal.


When in doubt, go to the source

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (shotguns and rifles) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported




We follow to the letter https://www.ar-15.co/images/smilies/wink.png To date the JRC is NOT listed in the CADOJ assault weapons prohibited list. There's 2 of them in (as the law says) unlocked containers, 10 round mags , Unloaded / not in firearm
http://www.justrightcarbines.com/
Wife's is a camo 9. Mine is in 45 with 15" rail. Hey , the laws the law.

Fortunately for us, we are no where near the liberal enclaves of the coastal area. The area we travel, CCW permits are given to anyone that applies. After hoops have been jumped through

[milwaukeeshaker]

Keep it on you and keep your mouth shut and who will know unless you need it. At that point stay alive, then deal with the rules after.

[hurley842002]

Keep it on you and keep your mouth shut and who will know unless you need it. At that point stay alive, then deal with the rules after.

Surely you aren't advocating breaking any laws on this forum?

[Erni]

Ask on Calgun forums for the best info. If you want a long gun see if rifles without a pistolgrip are still exempt from the AWB nonsense. Then you can bring an mini14, m1a, or even a ruger 10/22, or the KelTec (CA compliant version). As an out of stater I am not sure mag limits apply to you, so check. Just make sure the mags are not for AWB style guns.
The pistol comments are spot on from what I remember.

But I am curious, which part of CA are you going into? CA is not exactly Falluja, and most places are fairly safe.
[emoji477]

[hurley842002]

But I am curious, which part of CA are you going into? CA is not exactly Falluja, and most places are fairly safe.
[emoji477]

Yeah, I'm not even sure why people carry at all in Colorado, when you compare it to Cali, it's all rainbows and butterflies...... [Sarcasm2]

[Great-Kazoo]

Keep it on you and keep your mouth shut and who will know unless you need it. At that point stay alive, then deal with the rules after.


[facepalm]
Being from out of state. Might as well have your attorney with you. You must have not read the stories from NY & NJ of peopel stopped and being Honest , said that had a firearm. Felony charges, court hearings, unknown expenses for attorneys. Potential jail time.

CA is not different when it comes to a concealed weapon. ESPECIALLY from some one out of state.

Unless you're covering his legal fees. i suggest the OP ignore your helpful info.



Ask on Calgun forums for the best info. If you want a long gun see if rifles without a pistolgrip are still exempt from the AWB nonsense. Then you can bring an mini14, m1a, or even a ruger 10/22, or the KelTec (CA compliant version). As an out of stater I am not sure mag limits apply to you, so check. Just make sure the mags are not for AWB style guns.
The pistol comments are spot on from what I remember.

But I am curious, which part of CA are you going into? CA is not exactly Falluja, and most places are fairly safe.
[emoji477]

This is all one needs to know
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

CALGUNS has a link AND FAQ for those from OOS.


Really?? You never hear that oft repeated reply when being interviewed

YOU'D NEVER THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE

It does and can happen ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE . It's a matter of being prepared for anything. Then not be, when it's too late.

That way of thinking means one doesn't need a seat belt, fire extinguisher, spare tire, roadside assistance, Or even a phone to call 911

[Fromk]

Since you're not travelling through and/or you may be staying at least a night within California, FOPA may not protect you (not sure, anyone have better information?)

If FOPA does not protect you, then California's "approved firearm" list might kick in. Again, not sure.

O2

The CA approved handgun list only applies to sales of new guns. It has no bearing on what people previously owned.

[hurley842002]

The CA approved handgun list only applies to sales of new guns. It has no bearing on what people previously owned.

Yup, this is why off roster guns go for a premium on the private party market.

[milwaukeeshaker]

No way!


Surely you aren't advocating breaking any laws on this forum?

[milwaukeeshaker]

And he is free to do so, what do I know?


[facepalm]
Being from out of state. Might as well have your attorney with you. You must have not read the stories from NY & NJ of peopel stopped and being Honest , said that had a firearm. Felony charges, court hearings, unknown expenses for attorneys. Potential jail time.

CA is not different when it comes to a concealed weapon. ESPECIALLY from some one out of state.

Unless you're covering his legal fees. i suggest the OP ignore your helpful info.




This is all one needs to know
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

CALGUNS has a link AND FAQ for those from OOS.


Really?? You never hear that oft repeated reply when being interviewed

YOU'D NEVER THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE

It does and can happen ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE . It's a matter of being prepared for anything. Then not be, when it's too late.

That way of thinking means one doesn't need a seat belt, fire extinguisher, spare tire, roadside assistance, Or even a phone to call 911

[Erni]

Hold on. I am not advocating being unarmed. If you want to bring long guns and a patrol load out go right ahead. Please don't bin me in with the libtards who rant about needs and crap, or how no bad things ever happen.

What I am trying to communicate, and failing at, is that most parts of even So Cal are not bad enough where a rifle is needed. The best way to stay safe is situational awereness and avoiding certain areas. A handgun will solve 99% of the problems, and the 1% where a rifle is needed it will not be enough.

[hurley842002]

Hold on. I am not advocating being unarmed. If you want to bring long guns and a patrol load out go right ahead. Please don't bin me in with the libtards who rant about needs and crap, or how no bad things ever happen.

What I am trying to communicate, and failing at, is that most parts of even So Cal are not bad enough where a rifle is needed. The best way to stay safe is situational awereness and avoiding certain areas. A handgun will solve 99% of the problems, and the 1% where a rifle is needed it will not be enough.

Your mindset is flawed. I believe it's safe to say, anywhere that you need a handgun, you will likely wish you had a rifle or shotgun. The only reason most people don't carry a rifle or shotgun, is because it's not practical. The whole situational awareness thing and avoiding certain areas, I certainly agree with.

[HoneyBadger]

What part of SoCal? Which route are you taking?

If you have a lockable Glove Box and lockable center console, you can split the gun and mags between them, as long as they are separate. No ammo in or around the locked gun.


Kazoo's advice is spot-on.

Also, it never hurts to be a "good little citizen" and avoid any trouble. Situational Awareness is ALWAYS the most important thing, regardless.

[ColoradoTJ]

Keep it on you and keep your mouth shut and who will know unless you need it. At that point stay alive, then deal with the rules after.

It is hard to reply to this comment, but let me try.

There are several reasons that this is just not even close to good advice.

1) I am going with a FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Why would he risk his 20+ year career on me breaking the law? He wouldn't, and he is actually the one who brought this up. He won't even bring his AR since it is not CA complaint.

2) Believe it or not, there are worse things than being shot dead. In my mind, being a felon, or in jail, or draining my families savings/estate does no good to them. In fact, they would be way worse off. Personally, I would not want to be in a Federal "pound it up your ass" prison if anything went down. I would rather be dead. I had the same philosophy in the sandbox, they were going to have to kill me...

3) 99% of forums like this one have law abiding citizens that follow the rules and are champions for our cause. However, there is that 1% of asshats that scream "I am a law abiding citizen, DON'T TREAD ON ME!" BS and then in the next thread post up "then deal with the rules after" or "I carry on my kids public school property, it is my right...screw them..", or (I love this one) "it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6..." At that point, are you really a law abiding citizen? No.

4) Having out of state plates is always a target. Now having the "Colorado" plates just screams out Bob Marley featuring Cheech & Chong is in this truck. Do we have a good chance of being pulled over? I give it a 10%, but I am not going to risk it for going to the middle of nowhere in the desert. Not a huge threat, but you never know. I have been pulled over for tinted windows, even with out of state plates in CA. It was a BS thing to pull us over, but it still got us on the side of the road with their nose all up in our business. My truck has dark, but legal tint.

If I was a moderator, and due to some of your prior discussions, would get a nice vacation. In reality, you advised me to break the law, which this site is totally against.

[hurley842002]

It is hard to reply to this comment, but let me try.

There are several reasons that this is just not even close to good advice.

1) I am going with a FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Why would he risk his 20+ year career on me breaking the law? He wouldn't, and he is actually the one who brought this up. He won't even bring his AR since it is not CA complaint.

2) Believe it or not, there are worse things than being shot dead. In my mind, being a felon, or in jail, or draining my families savings/estate does no good to them. In fact, they would be way worse off. Personally, I would not want to be in a Federal "pound it up your ass" prison if anything went down. I would rather be dead. I had the same philosophy in the sandbox, they were going to have to kill me...

3) 99% of forums like this one have law abiding citizens that follow the rules and are champions for our cause. However, there is that 1% of asshats that scream "I am a law abiding citizen, DON'T TREAD ON ME!" BS and then in the next thread post up "then deal with the rules after" or "I carry on my kids public school property, it is my right...screw them..", or (I love this one) "it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6..." At that point, are you really a law abiding citizen? No.

4) Having out of state plates is always a target. Now having the "Colorado" plates just screams out Bob Marley featuring Cheech & Chong is in this truck. Do we have a good chance of being pulled over? I give it a 10%, but I am not going to risk it for going to the middle of nowhere in the desert. Not a huge threat, but you never know. I have been pulled over for tinted windows, even with out of state plates in CA. It was a BS thing to pull us over, but it still got us on the side of the road with their nose all up in our business. My truck has dark, but legal tint.

If I was a moderator, and due to some of your prior discussions, would get a nice vacation. In reality, you advised me to break the law, which this site is totally against.

Excellent post, especially the last sentence. At the end of the day, you are traveling with someone that can legally carry, you are doing much better than the majority of folks traveling to CA.

[Irving]

No need to fuss over advice you don't have to take.

[ColoradoTJ]

What part of SoCal? Which route are you taking?

If you have a lockable Glove Box and lockable center console, you can split the gun and mags between them, as long as they are separate. No ammo in or around the locked gun.


Kazoo's advice is spot-on.

Also, it never hurts to be a "good little citizen" and avoid any trouble. Situational Awareness is ALWAYS the most important thing, regardless.

We are heading to the Mojave Desert area. We used to go down to his Dads properties when said friend of over 20 years were stationed together in CA, ride dirt bikes/atv's, party it up and have a great time. My last trip out netted me a busted up arm, in the middle of nowhere miles from home. LA county hospital was entertaining. We are not sure on route yet. That will be weather permitting. I like 70 to 15.

Totally agree with situational awareness. We both know were to be and when to be there. The days of "accidentally" ending up on the East side of LA are over....long over. This will likely be my last trip to CA until one last family member passes in Sonoma Valley, CA. I just can't hang out in a place so restricting of my rights. Since I follow rules, I just will not go there anymore. I would like to hang out in Johnson Valley and watch KOH every year (going on right meow) in person...but that isn't going to happen.

[hurley842002]

No need to fuss over advice you don't have to take.

New title for you, "Fuss Fuzz"? Besides, Milwaukee was promoting illegal activity. Had it been someone talking about selling without a BG check or acquiring mags larger than 15 rounds, several folks would have been all over it.

[ColoradoTJ]

No need to fuss over advice you don't have to take.

No fuss, just pointing out the obvious. Some new person to the sport might actually take that crap sandwich of advice. It should be squashed right away. No wonder our 2nd amendment rights get chiseled away one little chunk at a time.

If someone wants to break the law, that is on them and they should do so quietly and not on an open forum.

[HoneyBadger]

At the end of the day, you are traveling with someone that can legally carry, you are doing much better than the majority of folks traveling to CA.
This makes me very jealous. and sad. :(


I just can't hang out in a place so restricting of my rights. Since I follow rules, I just will not go there anymore.

I know you're new here, but I just moved to CA last May for my job and I cannot wait to move back to Free America in a few years.

[ColoradoTJ]

This makes me very jealous. and sad. :(



I know you're new here, but I just moved to CA last May for my job and I cannot wait to move back to Free America in a few years.

I read in another thread that you moved out to CA. I lived there from 93-97. Back then it was a lot more gun friendly. I purchased my first Colt Sporter there, most of my high capacity mags, and went shooting all the time. I was always so surprised at how many had AR style rifles. I grew up in MT, and guns were everywhere and "heard" about the gun nazi's in CA. I just didn't see it back then, but glad I had them on more than one occasion.

[Great-Kazoo]

It is hard to reply to this comment, but let me try.


If I was a moderator, and due to some of your prior discussions, would get a nice vacation. In reality, you advised me to break the law, which this site is totally against.


#1
Like the Cut of your Jib Young man

#2 Where can i get your newsletter

[HoneyBadger]

I read in another thread that you moved out to CA. I lived there from 93-97. Back then it was a lot more gun friendly. I purchased my first Colt Sporter there, most of my high capacity mags, and went shooting all the time. I was always so surprised at how many had AR style rifles. I grew up in MT, and guns were everywhere and "heard" about the gun nazi's in CA. I just didn't see it back then, but glad I had them on more than one occasion.
The few times I've seen AR-15 style rifles at the range here, the owners didn't know what the hell they were talking about. It was disappointing and scary. I got talking to one guy who I thought wasn't totally brainwashed and I told him that in every other state you could own a rifle with a barrel less than 16" long with the right paperwork and his jaw just dropped... "Even one of these?" (pointing at his CA-friendly M&P15) "Yep! It's a ton of fun!" I replied. ...His response? (totally serious) "Man, that's just too dangerous." I just about slapped him. After that, he kept looking over at me like I wasn't trustworthy or something.

[milwaukeeshaker]

You solicited opinions and I just gave you an option, you can do with it what you want. I did not tell you to do anything, so do whatever you will. If you did not want opinions don't ask.


It is hard to reply to this comment, but let me try.

There are several reasons that this is just not even close to good advice.

1) I am going with a FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Why would he risk his 20+ year career on me breaking the law? He wouldn't, and he is actually the one who brought this up. He won't even bring his AR since it is not CA complaint.

2) Believe it or not, there are worse things than being shot dead. In my mind, being a felon, or in jail, or draining my families savings/estate does no good to them. In fact, they would be way worse off. Personally, I would not want to be in a Federal "pound it up your ass" prison if anything went down. I would rather be dead. I had the same philosophy in the sandbox, they were going to have to kill me...

3) 99% of forums like this one have law abiding citizens that follow the rules and are champions for our cause. However, there is that 1% of asshats that scream "I am a law abiding citizen, DON'T TREAD ON ME!" BS and then in the next thread post up "then deal with the rules after" or "I carry on my kids public school property, it is my right...screw them..", or (I love this one) "it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6..." At that point, are you really a law abiding citizen? No.

4) Having out of state plates is always a target. Now having the "Colorado" plates just screams out Bob Marley featuring Cheech & Chong is in this truck. Do we have a good chance of being pulled over? I give it a 10%, but I am not going to risk it for going to the middle of nowhere in the desert. Not a huge threat, but you never know. I have been pulled over for tinted windows, even with out of state plates in CA. It was a BS thing to pull us over, but it still got us on the side of the road with their nose all up in our business. My truck has dark, but legal tint.

If I was a moderator, and due to some of your prior discussions, would get a nice vacation. In reality, you advised me to break the law, which this site is totally against.

[Erni]

HB,
Be kind, they are suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

[ColoradoTJ]

The few times I've seen AR-15 style rifles at the range here, the owners didn't know what the hell they were talking about. It was disappointing and scary. I got talking to one guy who I thought wasn't totally brainwashed and I told him that in every other state you could own a rifle with a barrel less than 16" long with the right paperwork and his jaw just dropped... "Even one of these?" (pointing at his CA-friendly M&P15) "Yep! It's a ton of fun!" I replied. ...His response? (totally serious) "Man, that's just too dangerous." I just about slapped him. After that, he kept looking over at me like I wasn't trustworthy or something.

Wow, things have really changed then in 18 years. Hell, I was the only one usually on the range that didn't have one for a while. Times change I guess.

Then again, so has Colorado since 97'...

[ColoradoTJ]

#1
Like the Cut of your Jib Young man

#2 Where can i get your newsletter

LOL, I just can't stand complete ignorance.

[ColoradoTJ]

You solicited opinions and I just gave you an option, you can do with it what you want. I did not tell you to do anything, so do whatever you will. If you did not want opinions don't ask.

In no place in the original post was I asking for an "opinion" on this topic. I was looking for documentation to back up my research.

"One of my buddies needs a help getting his Dad back to Colorado. It just so happens his Dad lives in Southern California.
I have been doing a little light reading on weapons in vehicles. Looks like my pistol has to be unloaded in a locked case while driving in CA?
We are taking my vehicle, and he will be carrying the whole time (Fed officer), so that is at least better than nothing.

We are leaving the ARs at home since that is a shitstorm I really do not want to deal with. Kinda bummed, I used to go shooting all the time in the desert when I last lived there in 97'.

I just want to get some information from you guys to double check my research.

Thank you for any input.



Here is a great reply that someone can actually use:

WE travel with a lever action ( 50 STATE LEGAL) in easy reach. Loaded But UNCHAMBERED. That sits in another rifle case, easy access. Also a shotgun 18" bbl, with retractable stock.
I carry a revolver, the spouse has her 26. Both are in ammo cans under the seat, speed loader and mag in very easy to reach storage area. We make 2 trips per year to CA and have been traveling this way for over a decade.
The Carbines have the bullet buttons installed with 10 round mags. Again CA legal.


When in doubt, go to the source

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (shotguns and rifles) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported




We follow to the letter ;) To date the JRC is NOT listed in the CADOJ assault weapons prohibited list. There's 2 of them in (as the law says) unlocked containers, 10 round mags , Unloaded / not in firearm
http://www.justrightcarbines.com/
Wife's is a camo 9. Mine is in 45 with 15" rail. Hey , the laws the law.

Fortunately for us, we are no where near the liberal enclaves of the coastal area. The area we travel, CCW permits are given to anyone that applies. After hoops have been jumped through.


Now there was several other replies that were great as well.


Opinions are like a-holes, and the opinion you gave me was from one....

[HoneyBadger]

I give this thread 5/5 stars.

[Irving]

I can't take this thread seriously because I keep singing the South Park theme song every time I read it.

[68Charger]

ColoradoTJ- I was close to being in your situation, but I was saved from a trip to California (San Diego area) to pick up my oldest because my 3 younger kids have a MMA tournament that weekend here in the semi-free world.

Sooner or later, I will likely have to go there again (last time was for work to San Jose area about 6-7 years ago)... because my wife has lots of family behind the iron curtain (some are former LE, so enjoy some level of being above me as a SERF in the eyes of CA legislature)

I don't look forward to it, and will plan accordingly, including whatever less-than-lethal choices I can bring... but I respect your integrity for sticking with the law, especially in your situation.
Every day we have to make judgements about our safety- whether that is from tyranny or from potential violence.

Sometimes is it is easy, other times not so much.

ETA: you could bring something 100% within CA law, but if you get an a-hole or mis-informed officer in some place, it could go badly.... but that's possible just about anywhere, too.

[milwaukeeshaker]

What a nice guy. Thank you. As they say it takes one to know one.


In no place in the original post was I asking for an "opinion" on this topic. I was looking for documentation to back up my research.

"One of my buddies needs a help getting his Dad back to Colorado. It just so happens his Dad lives in Southern California.
I have been doing a little light reading on weapons in vehicles. Looks like my pistol has to be unloaded in a locked case while driving in CA?
We are taking my vehicle, and he will be carrying the whole time (Fed officer), so that is at least better than nothing.

We are leaving the ARs at home since that is a shitstorm I really do not want to deal with. Kinda bummed, I used to go shooting all the time in the desert when I last lived there in 97'.

[B]I just want to get some information from you guys to double check my research.

Thank you for any input.



Here is a great reply that someone can actually use:

WE travel with a lever action ( 50 STATE LEGAL) in easy reach. Loaded But UNCHAMBERED. That sits in another rifle case, easy access. Also a shotgun 18" bbl, with retractable stock.
I carry a revolver, the spouse has her 26. Both are in ammo cans under the seat, speed loader and mag in very easy to reach storage area. We make 2 trips per year to CA and have been traveling this way for over a decade.
The Carbines have the bullet buttons installed with 10 round mags. Again CA legal.


When in doubt, go to the source

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (shotguns and rifles) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported




We follow to the letter ;) To date the JRC is NOT listed in the CADOJ assault weapons prohibited list. There's 2 of them in (as the law says) unlocked containers, 10 round mags , Unloaded / not in firearm
http://www.justrightcarbines.com/
Wife's is a camo 9. Mine is in 45 with 15" rail. Hey , the laws the law.

Fortunately for us, we are no where near the liberal enclaves of the coastal area. The area we travel, CCW permits are given to anyone that applies. After hoops have been jumped through.


Now there was several other replies that were great as well.


Opinions are like a-holes, and the opinion you gave me was from one....

[68Charger]

What a nice guy. Thank you. As they say it takes one to know one. [blah-blah]

This kinda speaks for itself- no comment required.