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Zundfolge
02-17-2016, 17:21
Who would you vote for if the primary was held today?
Keeping in mind that Colorado Republicans are not going to be allowed to have any voice in who the candidate is because the new rules would mean that who we picked in the caucuses would actually get the CO delegates instead of being hand picked by the GOP leaders (fucking CO-GOP idiots).
No primary in Colorado. Neighbors across the street host one of the GOP caucus meetings. I should take pictures of the attendee's vehicles and post them in the People Can't Park thread.
Unaffiliated voter, so I will be voting in November (or October when the early voting begins).
blacklabel
02-17-2016, 19:55
I'm unaffiliated as well but have liked what Carson has had to say.
Too bad Carson had a case of the serious crazies. (Pyramid grain silos, his magic medicine, et al)
I blame trump having as much of a popular lead as he does precisely because yet again the GOP options are mostly shit. I know some on the board feel this way, been the spats before. But extreme zealots like Cruz scare/turn off the middle ground voters. While most hard D and R's will vote party lines. The younger generation and independants are what matters. (That and turn out.) Running on a platform of social issues that have been decided for some time now and are not about to change in the foreseeable future is not a winning platform.
Even if trump is full of shit, I do at least like someone acknowledging the rage among us about the growing PC turned SJW extreme crowd. (They are so bad there are even liberals on other forums that are crossing to R because of it) The rage of what's being allowed with foreign policy, be it benghazi, or the whole toppling nations that while not angels has spurred this massive uprising of ISIS which is further fueled by idiots like Merkel putting out beacons of "free shit" causing the current literal and figuritive rape of Europe with fake refugee's. Meanwhile their media downplays and hides what's happening.
Candidates should be focused on really 2 things. Economy (and I put healthcare and the burden of ACA under it) and foreign policy. And a third in a way and part of why Trump/Sanders are both running so hot. Is shaking up this broken fucking system. It's bee discussed elsewhere. Boehner and the rest of the long term R party is barely more of a friend to us than the Dems. They both jack us from different sides and people are ready for a change.
Zundfolge
02-17-2016, 20:53
No primary in Colorado. Neighbors across the street host one of the GOP caucus meetings.
Yes however we won't be picking a presidential candidate.
HoneyBadger
02-17-2016, 22:35
Awwww, someone felt bad for Kasich and voted for him! [mlp]
alan0269
02-17-2016, 22:44
Keeping in mind that Colorado Republicans are not going to be allowed to have any voice in who the candidate is because the new rules would mean that who we picked in the caucuses would actually get the CO delegates instead of being hand picked by the GOP leaders (fucking CO-GOP idiots).
Actually, my understanding is that Colorado Republicans will have a voice. There is no straw election for a presidential candidate at this year's caucuses because of the rule that states that for any caucus held before March 15th the delegates MUST vote in the 1st election at the primaries for the candidate selected in the caucus. By not voting in the caucus for a candidate, it allows the Colorado delegates to vote for any candidate at the primaries in the 1st election instead of potentially being tied to a candidate that may have already dropped out prior to the primary.
Example if we selected a candidate at the caucus:
"Candidate A" is selected in the caucus.
"Candidate A" drops out of the election prior to the primaries.
Colorado's delegates would still be bound to vote for "Candidate A", which would basically equate to not voting because the candidate is no longer running.
By not selecting a candidate, this is avoided and the delegates can vote for the candidate that most represents what the voters they represent want.
Awwww, someone felt bad for Kasich and voted for him! [mlp]
Yet, he did beat Cruz in New Hampshire.[Coffee]
HoneyBadger
02-17-2016, 23:01
Yet, he did beat Cruz in New Hampshire.[Coffee]
LOL! New Hampshire is an open primary. Is it any surprise that the most liberal GOP candidate always gets a huge boost in the NH primary?
Zundfolge
02-18-2016, 10:03
By not selecting a candidate, this is avoided and the delegates can vote for the candidate that most represents what the voters they represent want.
But by not selecting a candidate how will the delegates know what candidate voters want? I'd rather have seen our Caucus moved to after the 15th then.
I still believe that the new rule was meant to prop up the eGOP and whatever Jeb! like creature they want.
I have kind of a radical idea for how I'd like to see primaries/caucuses done:
None of this "early primary" crap. ALL 51 primaries/caucuses would be held on the same day, either 6, 9 or 12 months before actual election day (I prefer 6 or 9, but I ain't picky).
ALL caucuses and primaries would be "closed" (no more liberal New Hampshire Democrats picking the Republican candidate).
I would prefer no more caucuses. All be primary elections (but I'm a states rights kinda guy and if some states want to caucus instead of vote let 'em have it). I'd also prefer these primary elections be done as "preference voting" since you'll generally have more than 2 candidates.
Rucker61
02-18-2016, 10:15
Awwww, someone felt bad for Kasich and voted for him! [mlp]
No one should be the last kid picked for kickball, all the time.
Wow
You'd think Cruz would do more to distance himself from Beck.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/politics/glenn-beck-god-killed-scalia-so-cruz-could-win/index.html
The list of choices reminds me of taking a client out to lunch at a steak house in TX back in 1989. He really wanted to go to this place for lunch, and the client is always right, so off we go to some famous steak house. I'm a lifelong vegan….
I'd manage to pick a candidate, but it'd require some creativity, much like a vegan ordering lunch at a steakhouse.
I'll pull the lever for Satan over Hillary, so whomever is on the opposing side of the ballot come November gets my vote.
The list of choices reminds me of taking a client out to lunch at a steak house in TX back in 1989. He really wanted to go to this place for lunch, and the client is always right, so off we go to some famous steak house. I'm a lifelong vegan….
I'd manage to pick a candidate, but it'd require some creativity, much like a vegan ordering lunch at a steakhouse.
I'll pull the lever for Satan over Hillary, so whomever is on the opposing side of the ballot come November gets my vote.
Just out of curiosity, what would a vegan eat in a Texas steakhouse? A plate of Ice?
milwaukeeshaker
02-18-2016, 15:02
Might not be Hillary, could be Bernie the Commie.
The list of choices reminds me of taking a client out to lunch at a steak house in TX back in 1989. He really wanted to go to this place for lunch, and the client is always right, so off we go to some famous steak house. I'm a lifelong vegan….
I'd manage to pick a candidate, but it'd require some creativity, much like a vegan ordering lunch at a steakhouse.
I'll pull the lever for Satan over Hillary, so whomever is on the opposing side of the ballot come November gets my vote.
Great-Kazoo
02-18-2016, 16:38
Just out of curiosity, what would a vegan eat in a Texas steakhouse? A plate of Ice?
One of the waitresses Or of one happens to swing "that way" a waiter. Give a new meaning to Fruit Plate
3beansalad
02-18-2016, 16:47
Though unaffiliated, I would chose anyone that's not a career politician over anyone that is.
Carson is thoughtful and deliberate. Too bad that comes off as ignorant often.
And simply don't trust Trump. Who would want (another) yuuuugggge egomaniac as president?
That narrow it down to "none of the above"
Just out of curiosity, what would a vegan eat in a Texas steakhouse? A plate of Ice?
salad and baked potato :)
Might not be Hillary, could be Bernie the Commie.
as of today:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/delegate_zpsigw6qjd3.jpg
Zundfolge
02-18-2016, 17:31
Wow
You'd think Cruz would do more to distance himself from Beck.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/politics/glenn-beck-god-killed-scalia-so-cruz-could-win/index.html
Problem with Beck is that he's kind of like a crazy stalker ... doesn't matter how much distance you put between you and he, every time you turn around there he is ... with that lovesick look on his face. Never sure if he wants to hug you or murder you in your sleep.
I'll pull the lever for Satan over Hillary...
Isn't that like saying I'll pull the lever for Hillary over Hillary?
There's no "other" option. I wouldn't vote for any of the candidates listed.
Where is Mr. Paul in the voting?
Where is Mr. Paul in the voting?
Um, he already dropped out.
Um, he already dropped out.
So dis Kasich, of was that 10 years ago?
So dis Kasich, of was that 10 years ago?
I have no idea what you are attempting to say.
Zundfolge
02-18-2016, 22:51
I have no idea what you are attempting to say.
I think he meant to say "So did Kasich, or was that 10 years ago?"
Anyway, Kasich has indeed dropped out (and had before you made this poll ... that said I'm not surprised you didn't know ... its not like anyone else knew or cared).
I think he meant to say "So did Kasich, or was that 10 years ago?"
Anyway, Kasich has indeed dropped out (and had before you made this poll ... that said I'm not surprised you didn't know ... its not like anyone else knew or cared).
ETA: Standby. Kasich has not dropped out. The poll is accurate.
Ahh
Yep, I screwed up on that one.
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/imageedit_2472_4497544374.jpg
milwaukeeshaker
02-19-2016, 15:56
as of today:
It ain't over till it's over.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/delegate_zpsigw6qjd3.jpg
Zundfolge
02-19-2016, 16:54
ETA: Standby. Kasich has not dropped out. The poll is accurate.
Ahh
Yep, I screwed up on that one.
Yep, looks like I'm the one that screwed up on that one.
I'm sure Donald Trump will now rail against me as some sort of evil liar and threaten law suits.
HoneyBadger
02-19-2016, 20:39
Yep, looks like I'm the one that screwed up on that one.
I'm sure Donald Trump will now rail against me as some sort of evil liar and threaten law suits.
[ROFL1]
Trump Wins South Carolina.
Record turnout.
Jeb drops out.
Cruz by a LANDSLIDE. [Weight][Flame][Spank]
Victory speech starts at 1:11:00
Even if you don't want to listen to Trump, just mute the sound because Melania is on stage with him and unbelievably gorgeous as always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN2qcHQPUjA
Great-Kazoo
02-20-2016, 21:37
Victory speech starts at 1:11:00
Even if you don't want to listen to Trump, just mute the sound because Melania is on stage with him and unbelievably gorgeous as always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN2qcHQPUjA
$10 says HRC lapdog starts a rumor Trump was / is involved with black market Eastern European wives
Glen Beck, a Mormon, calls himself a Christian and lashes out at "Evangelicals."
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/glenn-beck-calls-for-nationwide-fast-for-ted-cruz/
So I had to look up the definition of what Evangelical means tonight because it is counter intuitive when I hear that Evangelicals support a fake/pretend Christian like Donald Trump. Evangelical: Of relating to, or being in agreement with the Christian gospel especially as it is presented in the four Gospels. Emphasizing salvation by faith in the atoning death of Jesus Christ through personal conversion, the authority of Scripture, and the importance of preaching as contrasted with ritual. Glad I found the definition because I was beginning to think that Evangelical meant: Hypocrite, liar, deceiver and take it or leave it believer in God. I am so Glad I am a devoted Christian adhering to God’s laws and not an Evangelical. Now I know why atheists and agnostics think so poorly of Evangelicals. Please just call me a Christian and follower of Christ from here on out. And to my friends who call themselves Evangelicals that didn’t drink the Trump Kool Aid, I strongly recommend you stay as far away from the title Evangelical as you can. God Bless everyone and God Bless the United States of America.
When will Glen finally just go away and stay away?
KestrelBike
02-21-2016, 17:33
Glen Beck, a Mormon, calls himself a Christian and lashes out at "Evangelicals."
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/glenn-beck-calls-for-nationwide-fast-for-ted-cruz/
When will Glen finally just go away and stay away?
Picking up Beck was the biggest blunder that Cruz could make, imo. I've been listening/watching Cruz for the past 5+ years, and I've loved that he's been consistently Pro2A. Hell, I think he would even be someone who would consider trying to kill NFA/GCA if the right environment was there, which I would never say the same thing about Jeb, Rubio, or even Trump (I don't think Trump even knows what the actual laws are, but if he did and he talked about it, I'd consider listening to him). Despite the MS (or whatever bank loan it was) hullabaloo, I feel that Cruz had the closest tea-party alignment and certainly Constitutionalist alignment out of any of the candidates (Ron Paul could never get attention, and Rand got too angry, too aggressive, and pissed off too many people too soon) that could have caught the attention of the independents which is the single-most important crowd for this election. NOT the evangelicals/fundamentalists! Yes, not courting them doesn't do you any favors, but they are simply not the winning ticket this go around in any way/shape/form. It will only turn away the fence-sitters. Cruz was (and still is) my favorite for the past 3 years, but he really blew it in my opinion, barring something catastrophic happening to Trump/Rubio.
Wondering what this would look like almost 8 weeks later. I was one of the two Kasich votes. Not because he was my ideal candidate but the one, IMO, could unite the party around one guy. Trump and Cruz have burned to many bridges with each others supporters that I'm afraid neither will vote for the other. And that spells losing the White House and SCOTUS.
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