View Full Version : Shooter driving around Kalamazoo County Michigan randomly killing people
http://woodtv.com/2016/02/20/multiple-fatally-shot-at-2-locations-in-kalamazoo-co/
TEXAS TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WOOD) — Police in Kalamazoo County are searching for a suspect who is randomly shooting people, at least six have been killed.
Kalamazoo County Undersheriff Paul Matyas told 24 Hour News 8 that multiple were fatally shot at the Cracker Barrel in Texas Township and Seelye Kia dealership, located at 3820 Stadium Drive in Kalamazoo.Matyas says the suspect is driving around randomly shooting people. Police believe the suspect is white man who is driving a blue Chevy HHR.
Police say four people were killed at the Cracker Barrel and one was taken to the hospital in critical condition. An eight-year-old child was among the people killed at the restaurant.Authorities say a father and son were shot and killed at the dealership.A woman was shot multiple times in the Meadows Townhomes parking lot in Richland Township.
Grant H.
02-21-2016, 00:19
Damn, this world is hosed.
ColoradoTJ
02-21-2016, 00:30
My prayers and heart go out to the fallen, and the person(s) doing this can roast in hell.
Ugh, hope they catch him soon.
Looks like they got him without a fight.
Hope he gets smoked.
Yep put him down!
blacklabel
02-21-2016, 02:53
Hope he gets smoked.
That's the truth. Scum like this don't deserve mercy.
Looks like they got him without a fight.
Have a link?
HoneyBadger
02-21-2016, 05:01
If I owned a Chevy HHR, I might get violent too. Owning one of those things is a pretty clear indicator of bad decision-making skills.
Zundfolge
02-21-2016, 11:08
But but but ... Uber doesn't allow drivers or passengers to be armed? How is any of this possible?
ChadAmberg
02-21-2016, 12:15
If I owned a Chevy HHR, I might get violent too. Owning one of those things is a pretty clear indicator of bad decision-making skills.
More likely, he's upset because Bernie lost Nevada to Clinton.
blacklabel
02-21-2016, 12:23
Uber seems to bring the crazy out in people.
If I owned a Chevy HHR, I might get violent too. Owning one of those things is a pretty clear indicator of bad decision-making skills.
[ROFL2]
You HHR pilots have a right to be violent but shouldn't take it out on others.
Isn't the HHR just Chevy's too little, too late impression of the PT Cruiser?
Have a link?
The link in the OP gets updated as they get more info. Got his mug shot now. Mama must be proud.
A question asked only by leftists; "How did someone with no criminal record buy a gun?"
The link in the OP gets updated as they get more info. Got his mug shot now. Mama must be proud.
Good grief. What is wrong with people?
Zundfolge
02-21-2016, 13:16
Isn't the HHR just Chevy's too little, too late impression of the PT Cruiser?
Its the same designer, Bryan Nesbitt (who also designed the '08-'12 Chevy Malibu and now runs the GM design division in China ... his work was so loved in Detroit that they sent him to the other side of the planet :p ).
SA Friday
02-21-2016, 14:57
Its the same designer, Bryan Nesbitt (who also designed the '08-'12 Chevy Malibu and now runs the GM design division in China ... his work was so loved in Detroit that they sent him to the other side of the planet :p ).
I call them all clown cars: Subarus, HHRs, PT Cruisers, VW Bugs, Scions... Clown Cars. Oh, I know one or two on here with these.
Let the hate rain. LOL.
theGinsue
02-21-2016, 16:10
Isn't the HHR just Chevy's too little, too late impression of the PT Loser?
FIFY
Both cars are ugly and suck. Don't know as much about the HHR as I do the PT, but I was very underwhelmed by the PT Loser (wife had one as a loaner from the dealership. Never again.
HoneyBadger
02-21-2016, 16:56
FIFY
PT Loser.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that calls them this.
I call them all clown cars: Subarus, HHRs, PT Cruisers, VW Bugs, Scions... Clown Cars. Oh, I know one or two on here with these.
Let the hate ​Reign. LOL. FIFY.
My Dad has a turbocharged PT with a manual transmission, it's surprisingly quick for what it is. I still would never own one though. Riddled with little problems that'll nickel and dime you to death.
I call his the PT Bruiser, because it has seriously bruised some egos of car owners who thought they were fast.
Flame suit on....
KestrelBike
02-21-2016, 17:43
I call them all clown cars: Subarus, HHRs, PT Cruisers, VW Bugs, Scions... Clown Cars. Oh, I know one or two on here with these.
Let the hate rain. LOL.
I <3 my subaru and don't understand the shade others throw. I've never lost control in the snow (that wasn't clearly my inexperienced fault) and never had a piece break or malfunction (knock on wood). I get good mileage and it takes me from point A to B and I feel reasonably secure in the event of a collision not involving a semi or F250 (not going to be the same as being in a heavier BMW or Benz, but I didn't want to be in that maintenance market at this point). I've never not been able to easily fit everything I wanted to in there.
I get it that a lot of people see soccer moms irresponsibly driving them as they apply makeup and gab on the phone or granola munching hipster-beard douchebags with obummer/biden stickers, but I've seen loads more dumb pieces of shit irresponsibly driving tahoes, suburbans, even pickups for that matter, etc.
Great-Kazoo
02-21-2016, 18:24
But but but ... Uber doesn't allow drivers or passengers to be armed? How is any of this possible?
I posted that in the comments section of the story. You'd think i was caught with using a neutral gender restroom. The outrage from some was very nano aggressive.
trlcavscout
02-21-2016, 19:37
Looks like they got him without a fight.
Thats to bad
Had me worried for a while, Kalamazoo is my hometown and the Cracker Barrel off of I-94 is where my uncle takes my grandmother for lunch after mass on Sundays. My dad and his wife like to go there every few weeks for dinner as well.
Calculated
02-21-2016, 23:40
Had me worried for a while, Kalamazoo is my hometown and the Cracker Barrel off of I-94 is where my uncle takes my grandmother for lunch after mass on Sundays. My dad and his wife like to go there every few weeks for dinner as well.
Glad your family is safe.
Calculated
02-21-2016, 23:43
Question...
If there's an active shooter in one's neighborhood, under the rules regarding ID&D, and especially after someone has already been hit, wouldn't it be legal for one to stop the threat with their own rifle?
I <3 my subaru and don't understand the shade others throw. I've never lost control in the snow (that wasn't clearly my inexperienced fault) and never had a piece break or malfunction (knock on wood). I get good mileage and it takes me from point A to B and I feel reasonably secure in the event of a collision not involving a semi or F250 (not going to be the same as being in a heavier BMW or Benz, but I didn't want to be in that maintenance market at this point). I've never not been able to easily fit everything I wanted to in there.
I get it that a lot of people see soccer moms irresponsibly driving them as they apply makeup and gab on the phone or granola munching hipster-beard douchebags with obummer/biden stickers, but I've seen loads more dumb pieces of shit irresponsibly driving tahoes, suburbans, even pickups for that matter, etc.
I will never own one for their ad campaigns and who they market to. The latest one was tree huggers...literally. And the majority of them are the granola hippy coexist Obama loving libtards. I think they are probably good vehicles, but you won't see me in one. Same with a Prius and their rainbow commercials and same bumper stickers as the subys.
Glad your family is safe.
Same here.
HoneyBadger
02-22-2016, 03:05
Question...
If there's an active shooter in one's neighborhood, under the rules regarding ID&D, and especially after someone has already been hit, wouldn't it be legal for one to stop the threat with their own rifle?
Do you fear for your life? Are you or your loved ones being directly threatened? Are you all out of possible escape routes? Real questions to consider...
KestrelBike
02-22-2016, 06:14
I will never own one for their ad campaigns and who they market to. The latest one was tree huggers...literally. And the majority of them are the granola hippy coexist Obama loving libtards. I think they are probably good vehicles, but you won't see me in one. Same with a Prius and their rainbow commercials and same bumper stickers as the subys.
Fair enough
Do you fear for your life? Are you or your loved ones being directly threatened? Are you all out of possible escape routes? Real questions to consider...
Lovely how society ties its own hands with liability issues, especially those coming from suspects' families looking to cash in after dear baby gets justifiably put down. Reminds me of China and their (lack of) good samaritan laws. Here's an awesome paper dealing with that: http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/research/ILJ/upload/Tang-final.pdf It's why you see LiveLeak videos of indifferent chinese civilians staring-at/passing hurt people on the street for fear that they'll turn around and get sued by someone.
If an off-duty cop comes to the rescue with a rifle, "Oh he's just clocking in while in khakis and a t-shirt." If a civilian does the same, it's "What laws did he break and is the DA going to go after him?"
If an off-duty cop comes to the rescue with a rifle, "Oh he's just clocking in while in khakis and a t-shirt." If a civilian does the same, it's "What laws did he break and is the DA going to go after him?"
Sad but true fact, very well said.
Bailey Guns
02-22-2016, 08:03
If an off-duty cop comes to the rescue with a rifle, "Oh he's just clocking in while in khakis and a t-shirt." If a civilian does the same, it's "What laws did he break and is the DA going to go after him?"
In fairness, society expects this type of behavior from cops...on duty or off. The other issue is most people don't go about their daily lives with a rifle. As much as I preach to others about the superiority of rifle, I don't either because it's not practical. That's why we have handguns.
And there have been plenty of instances lately where Joe Citizen has intervened with a gun during shooting situations and not faced charges. In Colorado protecting an innocent third person from imminent death or SBI is no different from protecting yourself under the law. I don't think it's a given at all that a DA will always prosecute. Now a civil suit from the bad guy or his family? Different story.
Civil and criminal liability are exactly why we teach to engage only as a last resort...if your life or the life of someone you care about is in immediate jeopardy. Not a hard and fast "don't do it", more of a "make sure you understand the potential outcomes" before you make that decision.
HoneyBadger
02-22-2016, 13:52
Lovely how society ties its own hands with liability issues, especially those coming from suspects' families looking to cash in after dear baby gets justifiably put down.
My comment was geared more toward the personal moral justification of killing another person, which should always receive adequate consideration.
Yes, the legal/civil suit part of it is indeed sad.
milwaukeeshaker
02-22-2016, 16:58
VIOLENT Criminals aren't people, they are pond scum, I don't think twice about erasing scum.
There, it's fixed.
hurley842002
02-22-2016, 17:03
Criminals aren't people, they are pond scum, I don't think twice about erasing scum.
So regardless of the level of criminal activity, they should just all be erased, is that correct? Another profound statement from milwaukeeshaker....
PugnacAutMortem
02-22-2016, 17:09
Criminals aren't people, they are pond scum, I don't think twice about erasing scum.
[facepalm]
Some of you guys...
HBARleatherneck
02-22-2016, 17:47
maybe you should have said
VIOLENT Criminals aren't people, they are pond scum, I don't think twice about erasing scum.
HoneyBadger
02-22-2016, 18:17
Criminals aren't people, they are pond scum, I don't think twice about erasing scum.
You broke the speed limit? You're a criminal! You deserve to die, scum!
You smoke weed in your house? You're a criminal! You deserve to die, scum!
You pirated music while you were in college? You're a criminal! You deserve to die, scum!
You fired a pellet gun in your backyard? You're a criminal! You deserve to die, scum!
The law is a terrible basis for moral justification. Slavery was legal. Segregation was legal. Everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.
ColoradoTJ
02-22-2016, 20:05
So regardless of the level of criminal activity, they should just all be erased, is that correct? Another profound statement from milwaukeeshaker....
Did you honestly think anything else would come from his mouth?
I knew what you meant Milwaukeeshaker.
Calculated
02-22-2016, 20:18
Badger I understand what you're saying but if someone is shooting random people my concern would be first neutralizing the threat and protecting my family, myself and others before having concern for the shooter's well being. Of course I'd call for medical attention once the threat was stopped. I meant legally.
hurley842002
02-22-2016, 20:22
I knew what you meant Milwaukeeshaker.
Please, enlighten us slower one's, his statement wasn't exactly specific, and he isn't exactly known for his rational posts...
HoneyBadger
02-22-2016, 20:29
Badger I understand what you're saying but if someone is shooting random people my concern would be first neutralizing the threat and protecting my family, myself and others before having concern for the shooter's well being. Of course I'd call for medical attention once the threat was stopped. I meant legally.
My first priority is protecting my family. If that happens by way of neutralizing a threat, then so be it. The best gun fight is one that is avoided.
Rule #17: Don't be a hero.
Please, enlighten us slower one's, his statement wasn't exactly specific, and he isn't exactly known for his rational posts...
He meant bad guys. If we all took everything each of us said literally, all we'd do is nag at each other. Right roberth? ;)
hurley842002
02-22-2016, 21:11
He meant bad guys. If we all took everything each of us said literally, all we'd do is nag at each other. Right roberth? ;)
"each of us" is one thing, milwaukeeshaker is completely different....
Great-Kazoo
02-22-2016, 21:13
He meant bad guys. If we all took everything each of us said literally, all we'd do is nag at each other. Right roberth? ;)
How do you know what he "meant" ? Based on his other profound thoughts. You seem to be in the minority on this one. I have him on ignore and still he leeches through.
Robert doesn't nag, he nudges one along. Know what i mean...
hurley842002
02-22-2016, 21:17
How do you know what he "meant" ? Based on his other profound thoughts. You seem to be in the minority on this one. I have him on ignore and still he leeches through.
Robert doesn't nag, he nudges one along. Know what i mean...
Even the new guy (ColoradoTJ) sees his BS...
Back on track on this thead will end.
Great-Kazoo
02-22-2016, 21:22
Even the new guy (ColoradoTJ) sees his BS...
Good now people please. Stop quoting him.
hurley842002
02-22-2016, 21:26
Glad the suspect was caught, and no other lives were taken.
I never got into a big argument with Milwaukee over back ground checks so I don't automatically assume his posts are something I disagree with. Also, I wasn't referring to roberth as a nag, but myself.
mindfold
02-22-2016, 21:34
Damn I was fooled again. I actually opened this thread thinking I would see debate on what Obummer will try to push through. Nope. Nothing to see here.
Sent from my tin foil coated mind reading device.
Great-Kazoo
02-22-2016, 22:18
I never got into a big argument with Milwaukee overt back ground checks so I don't automatically assume his pays are something I disagree with. Also, I want referring to roberth as a nag, but myself.
WTF??? You buy Fritz's old phone?? jeez us chrimmeny
milwaukeeshaker
02-22-2016, 22:33
Ok, I stand corrected.
maybe you should have said
milwaukeeshaker
02-23-2016, 13:24
Word to the wise. Be very careful how you express your opinions on this forum as the usual high post count clique on here will crucify you immediately if your views are not the same as theirs. You can be one of the "club" as long as you agree with their thinking. I know this first hand, as every time I post anything that does not conform to the groups line of thinking, the same posters quickly attack me at will, (even the ones that supposedly ignore my posts) but I am expected to take their slurs and not respond in kind. Now, even the new posters with very little time on the forum are falling in line to give me a few blows. If you want to be popular on this site, CONFORM. HAVE THE SAME OPINIONS AS THE FORUM "LEADERS", or you will be an outcast.
Even the new guy (ColoradoTJ) sees his BS...
Word to the wise. Be very careful how you express your opinions on this forum as the usual high post count clique on here will crucify you immediately if your views are not the same as theirs. You can be one of the "club" as long as you agree with their thinking. I know this first hand, as every time I post anything that does not conform to the groups line of thinking, the same posters quickly attack me at will, (even the ones that supposedly ignore my posts) but I am expected to take their slurs and not respond in kind. Now, even the new posters with very little time on the forum are falling in line to give me a few blows. If you want to be popular on this site, CONFORM. HAVE THE SAME OPINIONS AS THE FORUM "LEADERS", or you will be an outcast.
Yeah, but do you really care if they don't share your opinion on something anyways?
I know I've expressed my views on some things that most people here don't agree with. Hell, just last week I made a comment that "everyone needs a truck" and Irving immediately lashed out at me because he didn't agree. And that was nothing compared to the time I mentioned that I support illegal immigration.
You do have a few keyboard commandos on here that are pretty quick to jump into the fray if they disagree with a post but overall even they are good people in the real world. Plus, hop in to just about any other firearm form and you'll see just how tame and laid back this place is.
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How did this go off the rails?
We had some good information. Good news (caught suspect). Much needed levity regarding HHRs.
A good time should have been had by all...
How did this go off the rails?
We had some good information. Good news (caught suspect). Much needed levity regarding HHRs.
A good time should have been had by all...
I think someone bashed Cruz and feelings were hurt.
Whoa there big trucker, I didn't lash out at you, or even disagree with you. I think most home owners could do with owning a truck, just not as a daily driver. Unless they like wasting money to look cool, then have at it. I'm getting a truck this year.
milwaukeeshaker
02-23-2016, 13:51
See post #39
How did this go off the rails?
We had some good information. Good news (caught suspect). Much needed levity regarding HHRs.
A good time should have been had by all...
SSChameleon
02-23-2016, 14:18
I've never posted in a thread that was locked. But I've got a feeling about this one!
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