Conceal Carring a Glock 19 gen 4

[ColoradoTJ]

I am a 1911 guy, so I will have to eat some crow here. Simply put, the all steel 1911's are pretty heavy. This past week I traveled to California with a friend that I sold a Glock 23C to many moons ago. I picked up this loaded gun and was floored on how light it was. So this has me thinking.

The issues with the Glocks I have owned (3) was the feel in my hand. They just felt big and there was nothing I could do about that....until now with the Gen 4. From all the reading and research, sounds like the G19 is one of the best all around pistols.

Other guns I have owned in the polymer flavor is the XD series in various caliber. They were good shooters, 9mm felt good I'm my hand, but the .45 felt like my old G20/21.

Any other brands I should consider like the Shield?

[buffalobo]

G43, Walther has lite compact 9, LC9, G26, Kel-Tec also has lite compact 9.

All around the G19 is still my go to conceal carry pistol.

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[Great-Kazoo]

sig 230

[ray1970]

If you've been carrying a 1911 pretty much anything else is going to seem much smaller, lighter, and easier to carry.

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[hurley842002]

I guess my question would be, will this be a primary carry pisol? That will dictate much of your choices IMO. If you can afford some variety in pistols, you could do a combo like the 19 and 43, then you'd have different options. If you are limited to one EDC then you might want something more "one size fits all", like the 26. I'm pretty much limited to one option for carry, and I choose the subcompact Glocks, as I can have as much firepower as I need using larger mags, but I can conceal very discreetly if need be.

[ColoradoTJ]

Mrs ColoradoTJ carries a Sig P938, and like that pistol so far. When she cant carry, I "borrow" it from time to time.

This is time of year it is easy to carry a 1911 with a 4.25" barrel. Not so much in shorts and t-shirt.

I may may have to go up to Magnum and see if they have a gen 4 G19 I can rent and put 100 rounds down range.

By all means, I really like the 1911, but maybe the practicality of it is not the best. I guess adding one more weapon to the family isn't a bad thing right?

[hurley842002]

By all means, I really like the 1911, but maybe the practicality of it is not the best. I guess adding one more weapon to the family isn't a bad thing right?

Honestly, if it wasn't for my 1911 being a wedding gift from my wife, I'd probably sell it and buy 2 more Glocks. Other than nostalgia, I've got no use for a 1911, although they are fine pistols.

[ColoradoTJ]

I guess my question would be, will this be a primary carry pisol? That will dictate much of your choices IMO. If you can afford some variety in pistols, you could do a combo like the 19 and 43, then you'd have different options. If you are limited to one EDC then you might want something more "one size fits all", like the 26. I'm pretty much limited to one option for carry, and I choose the subcompact Glocks, as I can have as much firepower as I need using larger mags, but I can conceal very discreetly if need be.

You bring up some good points. This would not be my primary carry weapon, maybe a mix between the 1911 and "whatever" else I decide to purchase. On the flip side, I do believe one should dedicate one weapon for carry and practice with it often. Maybe I will have to open my search a bit over the G19.

Thanks for your recommendation .

[ColoradoTJ]

Honestly, if it wasn't for my 1911 being a wedding gift from my wife, I'd probably sell it and buy 2 more Glocks. Other than nostalgia, I've got no use for a 1911, although they are fine pistols.

They are fine pistols for sure, but one definitely has to train with one to be profficent with one (Thumb safety and carry cocked and locked) vs. draw and pull trigger.

[colorider]

Have a grip reduction done on the 19 as well as the trigger guard undercuts done. Have the whole thing stippled. Makes a WORLD of difference to those who think the glock feels too big. I never shot a glock good or liked the way they feel until I shot my buddies 19 with the frame mods listed above. Totally different feel. So much that I'm now having one done for myself. It's going to be my every day carry. There are several online companies that do this service and I'm sure a local place could do it as well. I'm sending mine out to Performance Industries and getting some slide milling done from them too.

[funkymonkey1111]

I am a 1911 guy, so I will have to eat some crow here. Simply put, the all steel 1911's are pretty heavy. This past week I traveled to California with a friend that I sold a Glock 23C to many moons ago. I picked up this loaded gun and was floored on how light it was. So this has me thinking.

The issues with the Glocks I have owned (3) was the feel in my hand. They just felt big and there was nothing I could do about that....until now with the Gen 4. From all the reading and research, sounds like the G19 is one of the best all around pistols.

Other guns I have owned in the polymer flavor is the XD series in various caliber. They were good shooters, 9mm felt good I'm my hand, but the .45 felt like my old G20/21.

Any other brands I should consider like the Shield?

have you looked at any M&P models? much closer to a 1911 grip angle, if that's your thing. check them out. there's a 4.25" model, or the compact "C" model (not to be confused with the even smaller Shield models)

[ColoradoTJ]

have you looked at any M&P models? much closer to a 1911 grip angle, if that's your thing. check them out. there's a 4.25" model, or the compact "C" model (not to be confused with the even smaller Shield models)
Thanks for the recommendation.

[ColoradoTJ]

Have a grip reduction done on the 19 as well as the trigger guard undercuts done. Have the whole thing stippled. Makes a WORLD of difference to those who think the glock feels too big. I never shot a glock good or liked the way they feel until I shot my buddies 19 with the frame mods listed above. Totally different feel. So much that I'm now having one done for myself. It's going to be my every day carry. There are several online companies that do this service and I'm sure a local place could do it as well. I'm sending mine out to Performance Industries and getting some slide milling done from them too.

Another good thing about this site!!!

Thanks for that information. So I could get a gen 3 and possibly get the grip reduction done as well.

Learn something new everyday.

[funkymonkey1111]

Another good thing about this site!!!

Thanks for that information. So I could get a gen 3 and possibly get the grip reduction done as well.

Learn something new everyday.

there very well may be local places that do it, but just search "glock grip reduction" on google and you'll find plenty

Glockstore does it:

http://www.glockstore.com/Customize/Frame-Modifications

Robar:

https://robarguns.com/custom-weapons/handguns/custom-glocks/

just a few out of many.


Rocky Mountain Weaponry (i just searched this--have no idea of their reputation)

http://rockymountainweaponry.com/glock-works/

Rockyourglock

http://www.rockyourglock.com/parts/GripStippling.htm



if you notice on many of the photos, you can have the trigger guard modified for a higher grip, removal of the front grip "horn" or whatever it's called, etc.

[rock_castle]

I love my Shield 9, but the G19 is my daily carry gun. I carry it in a Milt Sparks Criterion IWB holster, which is a terrific holster. The G19 is one of the finest all around guns on the market.

[KS63]

CZ P-07 compact in 9mm or 40S&W. Hammer fired DA/SA or you can convert it to SA like a 1911 with the supplied thumb safety. Almost identical in size to a G19 with 15rd 9mm mags and the grip angle of a 1911. It's a double stack, but a lot narrower than a Glock. Can be had for under $500 new. I carry this when I'm not in CO and I carry my 4.25" 2011 while in town. I have good gear so I don't notice the weight of a large gun.

[longrange2]

I've always been and avid 1911 shooter but have been warming up to the Glocks and have transitioned to using them for training. My fingers are short and I find a Gen 3 Glock almost too large in grip diameter but that being said my G19 Gen 4 is perfect. Fits my hand very well and I can reach the mag release without shifting my grip like I had to do on the Gen 3. Needless to say I run the G19 without any of the back straps.

[ColoradoTJ]

Thanks agian for some more recommendations. Sounds like I should go put hands on a Gen 4 Glock (several models).

My prior Glocks were always reliable and fun to shoot. Looks like there are some very user friendly mods that can be done to make one very person specific...

[colorider]

For me,a gen 3 with the grip reduction, finger groove removal/reduction, and trigger guard cut is far more comfortable and shoots better than a gen 4 with any of the back straps. But it also costs more to get the work done.

[hurley842002]

For me,a gen 3 with the grip reduction, finger groove removal/reduction, and trigger guard cut is far more comfortable and shoots better than a gen 4 with any of the back straps. But it also costs more to get the work done.

That grip looks comfy!

[colorider]

Oh, it is. They also add a special cut, contour the mag release area. It makes the button a LOT easier to operate. Faster too.

[KS63]

What's the price to get those mods done?

[colorider]

I would say around $250 for the whole enchilada from the company who is doing mine. I'm sure there are less expensive places, but I chose who I'm using based on their experience and work I have seen and other reputable glock owners who have them do their work.

[Grant H.]

I'd go for the G19. I had a G26, and I found that I really don't like having the short grip where my 5th finger is hanging off.

Sure you can get the mag extensions, but then whats the point? It's then the same size as a G19.

I still have my G30, which is a short frame, and had add the mag extensions to be willing to keep it. That ends up making it a compact .45 instead of a sub-compact.

[ColoradoTJ]

I tend to agree Grant. The Sig 938 has the same issue with one of the magazines not having an extension. My pinky is just out there, but doesn't seem to affect accuracy.

I did look into the companies that do these grip mods. Looks like quality work for about 250.00 and up.

[Zcsdkr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP4k4tOsZD8

[ColoradoTJ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP4k4tOsZD8

LMFAO....thanks, I needed that today.

[HoneyBadger]

That was fantastic. He's my favorite new youtube gun personality.

[blacklabel]

His SHOT show videos are hilarious.

[ColoradoTJ]

A little humor is needed in today's times for sure.

[Scooby]

All around the G19 is still my go to conceal carry pistol.




Same here. I have a g3 19 with talon grips and factory night sights, and the only other pistol I use for CC is a g43 for summer time.

[Busta Prima]

It's rare to see a 1911 guy fall off the wagon but like others have already suggested, check out CZ. I hear all the time how much they're liked by 1911 fans.

[Doc45]

LMFAO....thanks, I needed that today.

Agree, that was great! This old 1911 guy is trying to decide between a Defender in .45 and Glock 26. I've been using a 1911 for over 40 years but I love my full size M&P especially when it's jacket weather. Don't care for the Shield.

[ColoradoTJ]

Update: I sent a couple PMs out to the "Glock" guys on this forum, some good info.

Yesterday i went out and put my hands on several Glock Gen 4 pistols....19, 26, 36 (nobody had a 30S). These weapons just do not feel good in my hands. Now, for the price of a G19, then having to get a grip reduction and night sites, I am into the pistol for a grip of money.

Back to square one I guess. Funny, every single sales associate that helped me yesterday commented on the 1911 very similar. Pretty much said "If you like the 1911, why not stay with one? You just have the wrong 1911 for what you are trying to accomplish."

I looked at at a few lightweight compact 1911s and liked them a lot....just not the price.

After some research last night, may have to look at a XD Mod2 compact and XDM.

[hurley842002]

Update: I sent a couple PMs out to the "Glock" guys on this forum, some good info.

Yesterday i went out and put my hands on several Glock Gen 4 pistols....19, 26, 36 (nobody had a 30S). These weapons just do not feel good in my hands. Now, for the price of a G19, then having to get a grip reduction and night sites, I am into the pistol for a grip of money.

Back to square one I guess. Funny, every single sales associate that helped me yesterday commented on the 1911 very similar. Pretty much said "If you like the 1911, why not stay with one? You just have the wrong 1911 for what you are trying to accomplish."

I looked at at a few lightweight compact 1911s and liked them a lot....just not the price.

After some research last night, may have to look at a XD Mod2 compact and XDM.

Sorry for my lack of response, I was actually waiting to send you a message until I got to a computer, which I'm at now (sucks typing more than a sentence or two on a smart phone), it sounds like you have all the info you need at this time however.

[KS63]

Still haven't looked at the polymer CZ's yet, huh?

[colorider]

Yummy comfy grip with the grip reduction, stipple, and trigger guard relieve cuts. And mag release cut.
64472

[funkymonkey1111]

Did you try the M&P?

[ColoradoTJ]

Sorry for my lack of response, I was actually waiting to send you a message until I got to a computer, which I'm at now (sucks typing more than a sentence or two on a smart phone), it sounds like you have all the info you need at this time however.

Thanks anyway man. I do appreciate it.

[ColoradoTJ]

Still haven't looked at the polymer CZ's yet, huh?

Ha, funny you asked. No I haven't due to everyone not having them. Must be a hot item. I will check out a couple more gun shops to see if I can put one in my hand.

[ColoradoTJ]

Yummy comfy grip with the grip reduction, stipple, and trigger guard relieve cuts. And mag release cut.
64472

I sure wouldn't mind putting my hands on that. If I am gonna do a grip reduction, might as well buy a Gen 3 19 to save on costs.

So so correct me if I am wrong:

500 for gun
250 for grip reduction and all the other goodies

Is this about what you have into your pistol minus the other custom mods I see?

[ColoradoTJ]

Did you try the M&P?

Yes I have actually rented and shot the M&P when the Mrs was looking for her carry gun. We purchased a Sig P938.

[ColoradoTJ]

Forgot to mention an H&K that was placed in my hand yesterday. Pretty sweet gun, mag release was in a different location than expected. Not sure how I felt about that.


Anyone in Colorado Springs area that has a Glock with the grip reduction that wouldn't mind going out and throwing some lead down range? Not giving up on the Glocks just yet. Way too many people say with these mods they are excellent. I will pay your range fees, your box of ammo and mine. Unless you are like me, I like going out into Gods country..

[KS63]

^^^If you're up sometime near Denver, Centennial Gun Club has the compact P-07 and possibly the full size P-09 for rent.

[ClangClang]

I have multiple CZ's you're welcome to shoot if you're ever up in Boulder.

[O2HeN2]

No I haven't due to everyone not having them [polymer CZ].
I have a Pavona (https://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns/witness-pavona-polymer-compact-by-tanfolgio-26) and its steel cousin, the Witness Cmpact (https://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns/witness-steel-compact-1) (EAA, CZ clone) in 9mm and I'm in the springs if you want to try them out. PM me. You have to be willing to be seen with a purple Pavona, though :)

O2

[Jimmy]

I allowed myself to be brainwashed by what I had read and what others said about the Glock (grip angle, etc.) and then I trained for a full week with one... and now I look back and feel silly about it. The brain's a hell of a drug...

I usually use an MTAC for my G19. I've changed the clips a few times to get it where I like it and am able to get that important full/proper grip to draw. A loose t-shirt (versus close fitting/hugging ones) does fine for hiding it.

[Doc45]

And I went with the Defender in .45acp. :D Using the Wilson mags I'm only 3 rounds under a full 26 but for me I just shoot and handle it better. Everyone needs to use what fits them best. It's all good.

[ColoradoTJ]

Thanks for the heads up on the CZ models.

I may just hit some of you up on that.

[ColoradoTJ]

I allowed myself to be brainwashed by what I had read and what others said about the Glock (grip angle, etc.) and then I trained for a full week with one... and now I look back and feel silly about it. The brain's a hell of a drug...

I usually use an MTAC for my G19. I've changed the clips a few times to get it where I like it and am able to get that important full/proper grip to draw. A loose t-shirt (versus close fitting/hugging ones) does fine for hiding it.


So pretty much you love your 19, from what you wrote. I have never had an issue with grip angle, they are fine pistols for sure. When I pick one up, that is when the issues make me wonder how well I would shoot one. I am calling Magnum shooting center tomorrow and see if they have a G19 to rent. I need to find out for myself, and renting a pistol is cheap(ish).

[ColoradoTJ]

And I went with the Defender in .45acp. :D Using the Wilson mags I'm only 3 rounds under a full 26 but for me I just shoot and handle it better. Everyone needs to use what fits them best. It's all good.

Did some research on the Defender, and looks like Colt has the reliability down for sure on the 3" barrel 1911. Seen a couple going for 811.00. Not bad.

[Doc45]

I owned Officer ACPs in the past and they all needed some changes to work properly-the recoil sytem. On the Defender Colt indeed does seem to have it figured out. Today I had my second range session and another 100 flawless rounds. The only issue, same as my initial outing, is that every now and then Winchester white box will eject straight back into my face. No such issue with Federal ammo (either ball or HST) which is good as the Federal HST is my carry ammo.

[ColoradoTJ]

@Doc45. So far, my Desert Eagle 1911C has been flawless in the feed and fire department, no matter what ammo I used. This has been my truck gun, mountain property carry piece while cutting wood etc., and general all around weapon. Been dead reliable.

Another area I need to improve on is getting another good carry belt. My last one wore out and never replaced it with another quality one. This could be my whole issue with this weapon. What holster do you use?

I am still going to see if I can find a rental weapon to shoot. I did take my weapon in when looking at G19's, and they were about the same size. The barrel length is about 1/2" longer. My gun was definitely thinner.

[Great-Kazoo]

@Doc45. So far, my Desert Eagle 1911C has been flawless in the feed and fire department, no matter what ammo I used. This has been my truck gun, mountain property carry piece while cutting wood etc., and general all around weapon. Been dead reliable.

Another area I need to improve on is getting another good carry belt. My last one wore out and never replaced it with another quality one. This could be my whole issue with this weapon. What holster do you use?

I am still going to see if I can find a rental weapon to shoot. I did take my weapon in when looking at G19's, and they were about the same size. The barrel length is about 1/2" longer. My gun was definitely thinner.


Contact HBar, for a belt. I have numerous holsters (kydex & leather) Two of my favorites are IWB's (http://www.hbartactical.com/#!product-page/c1i6t/6a3bd9ad-2367-c4e2-4c11-287eadff0478), for a 26 and S&W 638. IMO it's the 15 deg cant he did, that really makes (for me) a difference.

[ColoradoTJ]

Contact HBar, for a belt. I have numerous holsters (kydex & leather) Two of my favorites are IWB's (http://www.hbartactical.com/#!product-page/c1i6t/6a3bd9ad-2367-c4e2-4c11-287eadff0478), for a 26 and S&W 638. IMO it's the 15 deg cant he did, that really makes (for me) a difference.


Thank you sir.

[Jimmy]

So pretty much you love your 19, from what you wrote. I have never had an issue with grip angle, they are fine pistols for sure. When I pick one up, that is when the issues make me wonder how well I would shoot one. I am calling Magnum shooting center tomorrow and see if they have a G19 to rent. I need to find out for myself, and renting a pistol is cheap(ish).

I love that I caught myself being swayed by rhetoric... it's embarrassing, and I'm willing to admit it. Anyone should be able to pick up any pistol and with some training/practice, shoot it just fine.

My position is this: figure out the features which are important to you (grip safety or not, thumb safety or not, single or double stack, trigger action, frame weight, caliber, etc.) in the gun you want to carry, then narrow down the choices.

What are the issues which are making you wonder how well you'd shoot one?

[ColoradoTJ]

What are the issues which are making you wonder how well you'd shoot one?

Past experiences with grip sizing. I have owned a G23C, 20, 21....just never a 9mm. I shot them ok, just never felt right in my hand. Not that I am not willing to try a 4th gen, just got to get out and try one out.

[ColoradoTJ]

Well, little update on this thread.

I'm going to test a 19 out on Monday and if I like it, one will be ordered from the same guy that is letting me test his Gen 4 G19 out. Pretty excited.

[Great-Kazoo]

Well, little update on this thread.

I'm going to test a 19 out on Monday and if I like it, one will be ordered from the same guy that is letting me test his Gen 4 G19 out. Pretty excited.


The 20 & 21 are different animals than the 19 or even the 17. The 2's have a fatter grip / width and uncomfortable for me . Just not enough (IMO) control over it . For lack of a better description.

[ColoradoTJ]

The 20 & 21 are different animals than the 19 or even the 17. The 2's have a fatter grip / width and uncomfortable for me . Just not enough (IMO) control over it . For lack of a better description.

Same issues I have had. I am willing to try another Glock. It's just money right?

[Chief_of_Scouts]

I had some of the same concerns as ColoradoTJ. Started with 1911s, expanded into Glocks. Fortunately I became familiar with Glocks, as the Glock 19 (Gen 3) is one of my duty weapons. I have a Glock 21SF and it feels nothing like a G19. I have a few G19s now (Gen 3 & 4) and they are great shooters and generally easy to conceal.

For warmer weather, I will conceal carry a Glock 43. If you get an opportunity to test one, it is nice to have that option.

[ColoradoTJ]

Went to Magnum Shooting Center to test out a Glock 19. Never shot a Generation 4 pistol and never a 9mm in the Glock.

Not sure what all the hype is about on that at a piece of plastic crap....

64879



So my new one should be here in a couple of weeks.

Right out of the box, this damn gun shoots well. I would like to thank Macon's for letting me use his pistol and range pass.

[ColoradoTJ]

A little update on the G19G4. I have been carrying now every day with this weapon. Opinions:

-Light and easy to conceal. I purchase a cheap belly band holster for summer use to see how I would like it in shorts and such. So far, good choice and can actually see myself buying a quality one. Since it was taking a little longer than expected to get my gun in, the owner of Macon's offered me up his personal G19G4 that I tested out at Magnum, and offered a great deal I could not pass up (6 magazines, IWB Holster).
-For me, it shoots very well and has had no FTF. Only aftermarket I can see doing to this pistol is a good set of Night Sights.

Very happy with this purchase. May look into a G26 as well when one comes up for sale on here.

[Scooby]

Welcome to the dark side lol

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[Irving]

Do you have issues with the factory mag release? I like the aftermarket extended mag release buttons.

[ColoradoTJ]

Do you have issues with the factory mag release? I luke the aftermarket extended mag release buttons.

Ah crap. You're going to make a liar out of me. Lolz

Yes, that is another small upgrade I can see coming as well. Any issues with your extended magazine release while carrying?

[ray1970]

Personally, I don't like the extended releases. They stick out too far in my opinion.

I also don't care for the gen4 release.

So maybe I'm just an odd duck.

[ColoradoTJ]

Personally, I don't like the extended releases. They stick out too far in my opinion.

I also don't care for the gen4 release.

So maybe I'm just an odd duck.

Are you saying the magazine release sticks out to far for CC? Thanks for your input on the topic Ray.

[Wulf202]

Some extended mag releases and holster combos will put your mag in the un seated position during normal carry. Making your first shot is critical as the mag will be at your feet.

[ray1970]

Are you saying the magazine release sticks out to far for CC? Thanks for your input on the topic Ray.

I'm mostly saying that since I don't have the coordination and hand strength of a twelve year old girl I've never had a problem with the stock release. Lol.

As far as the gen 4 release, the majority of the protrusion is pretty much in the same spot at the gen 3 so I don't see where it's a huge improvement over the gen 3 and earlier. The ability to flip it to the other side might be a nice feature if you're a lefty but I preferred it where it should be so that's no selling point for me either.

[ColoradoTJ]

Good feedback. As of now, the factory Glock magazine release is ok with me, just thought maybe it could be better.

I might just leave the gun alone. I have no problem shooting it, and as a daily carry weapon it should be dead on reliable.

[Irving]

Ah crap. You're going to make a liar out of me. Lolz

Yes, that is another small upgrade I can see coming as well. Any issues with your extended magazine release while carrying?

I've never carried a Glock before so I don't know. I was running drills with one and I couldn't drop the mags on the factory release without changing my grip. It was much slower and more awkward.

[ColoradoTJ]

Thanks for the clarification Irving.

I will look into this. There are other options besides doing a mag release extension.

[Irving]

What are the other options. The world wants to know.

[ColoradoTJ]

What are the other options. The world wants to know.

Stretching my thumbs. It is a painful process, but rewarding. [Coffee]

Maybe a cutout might help like this?

[Wulf202]

What are the other options. The world wants to know.being 6'4"

[Irving]

being 6'4"

I'm not exactly a midget myself.

[lex137]

I don't have problem with the gen4 mag releases, and I know something about short thumbs! I don't own any 1911's of any size cause I can't hit the slide release.

[hurley842002]

I have smallish hands, and I really appreciate the Gen4 mag release. Backstraps I could live without, but I really like the texture and mag release of the 4.

[Lex_Luthor]

I have a Gen 4 G17 and a Gen 3 G19, love them both. I'll be getting a G26 this month - had a 27 but my department doesn't approve of a converted .40 for off duty carry. Mag releases on both gens are fine for me, but I do want to get the G34 slide lock for both guns. Or all 3...

[colorider]

65854
Had the mag release area relieved when I had the stipple done On my gen3. Really helps.

[ColoradoTJ]

65854
Had the mag release area relieved when I had the stipple done On my gen3. Really helps.

Wow, very nice custom pistol. Who did the work?

[spyder]

I'm late to the game... I'd say a VP9 though. The grip panels are all interchangeable. I have a medium backstrap, large right insert, and small left insert. The grip is great as far as customizing goes stock.

[ray1970]

I'm late to the game... I'd say a VP9 though. The grip panels are all interchangeable. I have a medium backstrap, large right insert, and small left insert. The grip is great as far as customizing goes stock.

Biased opinions don't count. [Neene1]

[colorider]

Wow, very nice custom pistol. Who did the work?

Performance Industries in Vegas. Fast turnaround and very nice guys.

[ColoradoTJ]

Performance Industries in Vegas. Fast turnaround and very nice guys.

Thank you.

[mannix]

I'm primarily a 1911 guy, primary carry gun was a Sig 1911 Ultra - 3.3" barrel, alloy frame, 7+1. I like it, a lot - and it is very reliable; some have said that sub-Commander length 1911s are unreliable, that's possibly true of some guns, but I can say with certainty that the 3.3" Sig is fantastic.

ANYWAY - I like 1911s, and I like 357sig. I have a 357sig 1911 I carry occasionally (fullsize). but the primary carry gun is the 3.3" 1911.

I recently shot a G4 Glock with a cleaned up trigger, and I did not hate it. So, I bought a Glock 32 - same size as the 19, just 357sig. Super. Messed with the trigger, I don't hate it. In fact, the stock gen4 trigger did not feel all that bad to me (and supposedly, the g3 trigger is better?), but whatever, fixed trigger, I like it.

Found a Raven Concealment Eidolon (sp?) on sale for it, could not resist, even though it is kydex and does not look all that comfortable - the price was (really) right, so...sure.

Long story short, I've not carried the 1911 since. The Eidolon is set up in such a way that it pushes the butt into my, errhmmm, love handles, and the gun just disappears. Now, I'm a big guy, bear that in mind, I've got some extra padding to shove a gun into - I _can_ conceal a fullsize 1911 comfortably (and I have, many times).

The G32, though, it is comfortable, super discreet, 13+1, I don't hate the trigger, and I don't really care about it, whereas I _like_ my 1911s. It is a really good carry gun, imho.

.02c, figured it is relevant.

[lex137]

I carry a G4 19 since beginning of September thanks to carrying appendix. I would like to now get a holster that can accommodate an xc1. Use to carry a g43 but changed for higher capacity and a few other reasons.

[Monky]

I carry a G4 19 since beginning of September thanks to carrying appendix. I would like to now get a holster that can accommodate an xc1. Use to carry a g43 but changed for higher capacity and a few other reasons.

Ive got one 19 with an xc1 that I carry appendix. It's uncomfortable to say the least if you have to sit. Regular 19 no issue.. throw on the xc1 and things are too snug for comfort.


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[lex137]

^^^ I wanted to try the xc1 instead of the x300u that I currently use when it goes on the nightstand.

[Veritas]

I have a Shield and really like it. I like the thinner profile, but your ammo capacity is less.