View Full Version : I need a bulletproof bag or case.
drumvudu
03-08-2016, 07:30
Is anyone aware of a bag that is being produced that would hold my oxygen cylinder thats 3' tall X 6" wide? I am looking for something that is made from the same material that level 2 vests are made from. I am assuming that it won't be cheap but I need to find a way to protect my oxygen bottle so that I can continue to shoot my rifles. I have no access to private land for shooting and I don't live near anywhere that I am aware of that I can shoot even 100 yards down by littleton. I would drive some distance if I knew of a place that didn't cost me $20 an hour if they would let me shoot. I'm tempted to just get a cart made with AR500 steel on one side of it. I mean, it'd only way a few 100 lbs right? This has become very frustrating. I have a place that I can shoot my handguns but it's not ideal by any stretch. Does anyone know of anywhere that allows for even 100 yards that is on the south side of town or 30 miles from the south side of town? Also, I don't own a 4 wheel drive and I am handicapped so somewhere difficult to get to by car won't work either. If anyone has private land like a farm that would allow me and my elderly father to shoot there, I'd gladly pay you as well as guarantee that NOTHING would ever be left on your land. I know that is much harder to find here than in Texas but I thought I'd ask.
What about using a smaller bottle and wrapping it in a vest? You can get inexpensive vests.
Is the clear creek gun range to far? It's just off i70 at Idaho springs
That's a tough one, as many ranges may flat out prevent compressed tanks due to their insurance, regardless of container.
Depending on the range, is there someplace where you could use a very long tube - I know they make 35' tubing, but I'm not sure what that does to your flow. Tank goes behind a steel plate/cinderblock, etc. well behind the line of fire, with the tube sneaking out to where you're standing/sitting?
I think getting a smaller tank or backpack system just for things like this would also be a very good idea, but I have no clue what that would do to your costs / refill process either.
Good luck!
Great-Kazoo
03-08-2016, 09:47
Buy a vest . What type if any mobility cart are you using?
IF money is an object i have 3/4" oil field collector tank plate you're welcome to. Get someone to cut it in 1/2, it's already curved.
68Charger
03-08-2016, 11:44
what about an oxygen concentrator instead of a tank?
http://www.ar500-targets.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=37734
This gives you 12x12 coverage.
The bottle you use has 680L in it which is an "e" size. The limiting factor is the height.
By switching to a pair of "c" size bottles running two regulators and a y fitting they each contain 255 L of o2. They are 11" high
Using a folding shopping cart as a bottle carrier
http://www.amazon.com/Folding-Shopping-Double-Basket-Capacity/dp/B0000UZ58C
You should be able to hide 5 or more of the shorter bottlesbottles behind the plate.
Go with a more portable system, as suggested above. If a portable oxygen concentrator will work, go with that. Keep your O2 in the car should you need it?
I would say that an AR500 cart would be a good way to go here. You could easily use 1/4" steel in a triangular configuration. The 1/4" (0.25") plate will give you much better protection than a level II kevlar. AR500.com advertises level "III+" plates that are only 0.26" thick. I'd say this is a great option.
It will be light-ish: about 42 lbs plus the cart. Each plate would be 7.6" wide by 26" tall to fit an E-sized tank (what I assume is standard?). The shield-thing would look like this:
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It would need to be welded together, and that will weaken the corners, but it would only need maybe 3" of weld per corner.
The design could be shortened to fit a single C-sized tank to increase portability. Plate sizes would be 7.6" wide by 15" tall. Total weight would be a much more manageable 25 lbs.
You should contact AA Targets and see if they can help out.
I have a dumb question. Will putting through tank behind a steel plate run the risk of increased shrapnel if the tank is ruptured?
I have a dumb question. Will putting through tank behind a steel plate run the risk of increased shrapnel if the tank is ruptured?
The pressure in an O2 tank is shown as 2200psi. Enough to maybe rip apart small welds, but I don't think it's enoungh to shrapnel the plate. Of course you would get a large plate flying at an impressive velocity.
Are small O2 cylinders available that could be worn on your back? That way you are shielding the bottle?
If the tank in ruptured, not much will happen. It isn't going to explode on its own. I doubt it would even break the welds on the three steel plates I'm suggesting. A "good" design would probably have a few inches of weld at the bottom, and just a few small "stitch" welds up the sides. This would give you a failure point while still controlling the plates during some freak accident.
I also doubt that a bullet that manages to break through 1/4" AR500 would have enough energy to get through the tank. With 30 caliber AP ammo, all bets are off. The triangular design also helps ensure that the plates are angled from any impacting bullet. You'd have to pretty much aim at the side to hit it squarely.
My "source" regarding the tank NOT exploding and being fairly difficult to penetrate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_%282015_season%29#Episode_235_.E2.80.9 3_.22MythBusters_vs._Jaws.22
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