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It happened last night. Multiple ARs were stolen. There was another smash and grab like this at a gun shop in Houston a few weeks ago. Hope it doesn't keep trending like this.
http://kdvr.com/2016/03/10/guns-possibly-stolen-from-bass-pro-shops-in-stapleton/
News says Basspro is on lockdown, but that is most likely police being overly cautious.
Two things
1 how does this happen? Why weren't they locked up?
2: really fox you're going to start the article off with this many adjective to describe a .22caliber rifle. "High-powered AR-15 assault weapons were possibly stolen during a burglary at the Bass Pro Shops at The Shops at Northfield Stapleton early Thursday morning."
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mtnrider
03-10-2016, 09:13
Good thing they will only have 10 round magazines with them. They won't be much danger to anyone.
On a side note, pretty ballsey (or nuts) to break into a big store like that. Aren't the firearms on the second floor there?
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Inside job is what I'm thinking
Grant H.
03-10-2016, 09:43
I know quite a few gun stores that move their firearms from the shelf into actual safes at night, and back out in the day.
Sure, it's extra time and money, but at least it prevents this.
I know quite a few gun stores that move their firearms from the shelf into actual safes at night, and back out in the day.
Sure, it's extra time and money, but at least it prevents this.
That's what I figured most did. I thought they did this also
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Great police response time to an alarm... I mean you only have to go to the second floor all the way in the back
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Kaiser.Shooter
03-10-2016, 10:26
Wathched the vid, MSR demonizing at its best: Jim Hooley reports from the scene: " AR-15's the assault style rifles, very high power tactical rifles- the AR-15's" ...
Where were the cops in all this? It takes time to get upstairs and to the guns then grab them and head back out.
and what are all those safes doing empty up there?
That's what I figured most did. I thought they did this also
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There's no reason not to with wage paid employees and plenty of time in the AM to set up shop. I know mom/pops get lazy but these corporate joints need to have controls in place.
I'd like to know more details, but the "journalists" can't get past the words ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!
Wathched the vid, MSR demonizing at its best: Jim Hooley reports from the scene: " AR-15's the assault style rifles, very high power tactical rifles- the AR-15's" ...
Yup. And if any of these guns are used in crimes it will be front page news. No mention of how background checks don't work. No contrast with the other ways criminals have gotten guns (a certain Fed agency).
I've been in the security room there. I've seen fewer cameras at .gov installations! I'm sure the cops have lots of footage to get through-most of the cameras can't be easily reached so vid won't be a problem. If it gets solved I'd agree with a high probability of inside help.
JohnnyEgo
03-10-2016, 12:24
I used to work at a Mom & Pop many years ago. After having someone drive a truck through our storefront twice, once after we installed reinforced concrete bollards, we started locking all the guns up in safes every night, and putting them back out every day. Took two guys about 30 minutes to take them out or put them up. So perhaps $5-7K a year in added labor cost, but certainly cheaper then replacing storefront windows, paying increased insurance premiums, and the fear associated with putting illegal guns on the street. Our unbelievably tight-fisted owner was willing to pay it.
SA Friday
03-10-2016, 13:01
Lots of things one can do for security. Alarms, cameras, locating the firearms at the furthest location from the door... chains, cables, $10 of thousands of dollars or safes, locking gun racks, mylar and grates on all windows an doors, overnight security guards, big fucking rotties, laser beams on the trout in the tanks...
Cals Armory was a second story fucking fortress with a man trap at the front and he got strong armed robbed (I know once for sure, it might have been twice). Dave's Guns got rammed by a stolen station wagon in the back.
Seriously, lots of judgy "common sense" security specialists posting on this thread. Their liability, their security system expenses. I bet I could kick in the front door or most of the poster's in this thread because your are too lazy to change the 3/4" screws on the kick plates and hinges to 3" screws. I also bet my 12 year old could rake open your $30 non-security pin deadbolt front door lock too. Those are your liability, your security system expenses.
I used to work at a Mom & Pop many years ago. After having someone drive a truck through our storefront twice, once after we installed reinforced concrete bollards, we started locking all the guns up in safes every night, and putting them back out every day. Took two guys about 30 minutes to take them out or put them up. So perhaps $5-7K a year in added labor cost, but certainly cheaper then replacing storefront windows, paying increased insurance premiums, and the fear associated with putting illegal guns on the street. Our unbelievably tight-fisted owner was willing to pay it.
It just makes sense. Add in whatever legal liability can come and it's a slam dunk.
I would find a way to work it in with working hours to avoid the cost. Inventory/check-in as part of closing while transfers are finalized. Check out in the morning as soon as you open. If someone wants to see/buy a gun at open, just pull it first.
Still want to know more about this... Hopefully they guns can be recovered.
The reason they don't put firearms in safes at night and take them back out during the day is simple: Employees do more damage to the firearms taking them in and out each day - and the store has insurance for robberies not for daily handling. Further, people typically protect the outside and never protect the inside (hard and crunchy on the outside - soft and gooey on the inside). Same everywhere.
This has been the rule at multiple LGS I have worked at/with.
ChunkyMonkey
03-10-2016, 13:50
Lots of things one can do for security. Alarms, cameras, locating the firearms at the furthest location from the door... chains, cables, $10 of thousands of dollars or safes, locking gun racks, mylar and grates on all windows an doors, overnight security guards, big fucking rotties, laser beams on the trout in the tanks...
Cals Armory was a second story fucking fortress with a man trap at the front and he got strong armed robbed (I know once for sure, it might have been twice). Dave's Guns got rammed by a stolen station wagon in the back.
Seriously, lots of judgy "common sense" security specialists posting on this thread. Their liability, their security system expenses. I bet I could kick in the front door or most of the poster's in this thread because your are too lazy to change the 3/4" screws on the kick plates and hinges to 3" screws. I also bet my 12 year old could rake open your $30 non-security pin deadbolt front door lock too. Those are your liability, your security system expenses.
^^^ This!!
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 13:53
If it was an inside job, I assume the insider would know about the security measures in place, and disable cameras, right?
I grew up close to a gun store in Michigan that was built in an old (probably 100+yr old) bank building. The area that had the guns was the actual vault for the bank... Back when banks actually had the cash of all their customers on site. At night, they just closed the 1ft thick vault door and time sealed it for the night. I don't know how good that door would hold up against modern tactics, but it sure as heck wasn't going to get rammed or pried open. Unfortunately, most of their traffic was people who wanted to check out the vault and not buy anything, and they went out of business after just a few years open. I swung past there last summer and it was an uppity clothing store and the vault was just another part of their floor space. The sweet vault door was basically hidden behind some clothing racks.
At any rate, building a 15x30' vault as the gun showroom might be cheaper than some of the other security measures people would undertake.
ChunkyMonkey
03-10-2016, 13:57
If it was an inside job, I assume the insider would know about the security measures in place, and disable cameras, right?
I grew up close to a gun store in Michigan that was built in an old (probably 100+yr old) bank building. The area that had the guns was the actual vault for the bank... Back when banks actually had the cash of all their customers on site. At night, they just closed the 1ft thick vault door and time sealed it for the night. I don't know how good that door would hold up against modern tactics, but it sure as heck wasn't going to get rammed or pried open. Unfortunately, most of their traffic was people who wanted to check out the vault and not buy anything, and they went out of business after just a few years open. I swung past there last summer and it was an uppity clothing store and the vault was just another part of their floor space. The sweet vault door was basically hidden behind some clothing racks.
At any rate, building a 15x30' vault as the gun showroom might be cheaper than some of the other security measures people would undertake.
Also keep in mind, they dont do inventory on daily or weekly basis. What's stopping anyone from letting one or two firearms walk out the door w/ his/her accomplice, and now that inventory time coming up, lets break a window, set off the alarm. #2, bad inventory w/ few missing items are not that uncommon. Someone broke a window, then a snap count produced few missing items.
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 14:06
Also keep in mind, they dont do inventory on daily or weekly basis. What's stopping anyone from letting one or two firearms walk out the door w/ his/her accomplice, and now that inventory time coming up, lets break a window, set off the alarm. #2, bad inventory w/ few missing items are not that uncommon. Someone broke a window, then a snap count produced few missing items.
That's a crappy scenario. Only way to protect against that is to hire the right people.... Which, as I'm sure you know, is easier said than done.
hollohas
03-10-2016, 14:08
Seriously, lots of judgy "common sense" security specialists posting on this thread. Their liability, their security system expenses. I bet I could kick in the front door or most of the poster's in this thread because your are too lazy to change the 3/4" screws on the kick plates and hinges to 3" screws. I also bet my 12 year old could rake open your $30 non-security pin deadbolt front door lock too. Those are your liability, your security system expenses.
Whoa, too much coffee today? There's very little in the form of critical comments here. Just a couple wondering why the guns weren't locked in safes. Especially not much here to justify calling other folks lazy.
Suriously strange place to rob. I'm not sure what back entrances are there, but from the front door, thats not a quick in-n-out job and I bet you must pass dozens of cameras on the way.
hire the right people....
LOL! In today's world, that's almost impossible.
The reason they don't put firearms in safes at night and take them back out during the day is simple: Employees do more damage to the firearms taking them in and out each day - and the store has insurance for robberies not for daily handling. Further, people typically protect the outside and never protect the inside (hard and crunchy on the outside - soft and gooey on the inside). Same everywhere.
This has been the rule at multiple LGS I have worked at/with.
Which can happen just pulling a pistol out of a case or taking a rifle down from a rack.
1. Buy a Rubbermaid cart
2. Case everything you can
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Seriously, lots of judgy "common sense" security specialists posting on this thread. Their liability, their security system expenses. I bet I could kick in the front door or most of the poster's in this thread because your are too lazy to change the 3/4" screws on the kick plates and hinges to 3" screws. I also bet my 12 year old could rake open your $30 non-security pin deadbolt front door lock too. Those are your liability, your security system expenses.
I don't have a big sign on my front lawn that says "FREE FIREARMS FOR FELONS."
Level of security should be relative to risk, yes? Or is that not "common sense?"
JohnnyEgo
03-10-2016, 14:27
That's a crappy scenario. Only way to protect against that is to hire the right people.... Which, as I'm sure you know, is easier said than done.
Sadly, it's hard to know who the right people are. In the years I worked firearm retail, several of my coworkers were fired for employee dishonesty, including things like stealing buckets of brass from the range, taking a case of ammo out with the cardboard recycling and then retrieving it from the dumpster, and purposefully ringing up items incorrectly for friends. Some of these folks seemed like good, honest people; prior military, gun enthusiasts, one married with a kid. You never know until you've been tested, and for some folks, it turns out their integrity was on sale for a couple hundred bucks.
We had cameras all over, including one over the registry, but we lacked a quality inventory control system. We used a price gun to label things, and manually entered pricing on the register. It was hard to know exactly what was in and what had gone out at any given time. The odds seemed like folks could get away with it, and many did for a time. What usually lead to their downfall is that once they started down that path, they found it hard to stop, and time eventually caught up with them.
As to locking the guns up every night, they didn't get any more shelf wear than they might have otherwise received on active display. We hit them with a Rig Rag to remove customer fingerprints, and laid them in foam lined crates that stacked on top of one another. On to a dolly and then rolled into a TL rated safe. Long guns were put in another safe by hand, but I guess we were either careful or nobody complained about finish wear. We were a small shop, so perhaps it was easier for us, but similar procedures were followed by most of the other facilities in town. Then again, our population density and crime rate were considerably higher than Colorado, so perhaps it isn't considered necessary here.
Not buying or selling, as I have long been out of the business. Never was, or will be, a security specialist. Just a former retail gun store employee, commenting on what our practices were and the reasons behind them. If this offends anyone or causes anyone to hope I am subject to a home invasion, then I'd suggest a deep breath is probably in order.
Edited to read "customer fingerprints" instead of "customer footprints".
Wait were they robbed or burglarized
Robbery
Robbery is defined by the law as taking or trying to take something from someone that has value by utilizing intimidation, force or threat. In order for robbery to take place, a victim must be present at the scene and can occur with a single victim or, in cases like bank hold ups, multiple victims.
Burglary
Burglary is defined by the law as the unlawful entry to a structure to commit theft or a felony. In order for burglary to take place, a victim does not have to be present. When a burglary takes place, the structure being unlawfully entered can be any number of building types including business offices, personal homes and even garden sheds. Burglary is not the term used for crimes committed on cars.
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Aloha_Shooter
03-10-2016, 14:47
Wait were they robbed or burglarized
Robbery
Robbery is defined by the law as taking or trying to take something from someone that has value by utilizing intimidation, force or threat. In order for robbery to take place, a victim must be present at the scene and can occur with a single victim or, in cases like bank hold ups, multiple victims.
According to Merriam-Webster:
Simple Definition of rob
: to take money or property from (a person or a place) illegally and sometimes by using force, violence, or threats
: to keep (someone) from getting something expected or wanted
The thieves took property from Bass Pro illegally, hence Bass Pro was robbed according to common and proper use of the English language.
Level of security should be relative to risk, yes? Or is that not "common sense?"
It was. Their level of risk was low for robbery and medium to high for damage from handling.
Seriously BassPro didn't do anything wrong here. There is no perfect security - all things can be broken into with enough time/money/clue/brute-force: pick any two.
According to Merriam-Webster:
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The thieves took property from Bass Pro illegally, hence Bass Pro was robbed according to common and proper use of the English language.
But was there a victim or person present
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Seriously BassPro didn't do anything wrong here. There is no perfect security - all things can be broken into with enough time/money/clue/brute-force: pick any two.
This. All the security in the world doesnt matter if someone wants in bad enough. All you can do is try to deter people. Make it hard enough that they dont want to put in the effort.
funkymonkey1111
03-10-2016, 15:05
According to Merriam-Webster:
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The thieves took property from Bass Pro illegally, hence Bass Pro was robbed according to common and proper use of the English language.
they were burglarized. not robbed, regardless of what Merriam-Webster says about it. Do you think the DA uses the dictionary to draft the felony information?
they were burglarized. not robbed, regardless of what Merriam-Webster says about it. Do you think the DA uses the dictionary to draft the felony information?
Yup I'm giving Dave a hard time
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I belive Obama also quote Merriam websters
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Aloha_Shooter
03-10-2016, 15:36
they were burglarized. not robbed, regardless of what Merriam-Webster says about it. Do you think the DA uses the dictionary to draft the felony information?
He was giving the OP a hard time when the OP was citing a news article (not a legal brief) and well within common usage. I know Black's Law Dictionary is a bit more specific and actually in line with Gunner but DaveL wasn't presenting a brief to the court.
Aloha_Shooter
03-10-2016, 15:37
I belive Obama also quote Merriam websters
Nah, Obama is from the camp that makes it up rather than consult a dictionary.
It was. Their level of risk was low for robbery and medium to high for damage from handling.
Seriously BassPro didn't do anything wrong here. There is no perfect security - all things can be broken into with enough time/money/clue/brute-force: pick any two.
I completely disagree and the fact his happens (not the only case) demonstrates the risk isn't low.
I do agree there is no perfect security. But turning it into a boolean proposition doesn't absolve Bass Pro of being careless if they left the guns out all night in a vacant store.
We're at a point were this kind of thing has collective consequences. I know we all hate that but it's true. Normally I wouldn't invest myself in someone else's miscalculated risk. But let just one of those guns be used in a shooting and see what happens.
Yup I'm giving Dave a hard time
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Why I outta....
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 15:59
Yup I'm giving Dave a hard time
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Everyone is way too uptight around here lately... It's an Internet forum! Education is a secondary priority whereas comic relief is the primary. :)
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 16:02
I completely disagree and the fact his happens (not the only case) demonstrates the risk isn't low.
I do agree there is no perfect security. But turning it into a boolean proposition doesn't absolve Bass Pro of being careless if they left the guns out all night in a vacant store.
We're at a point were this kind of thing has collective consequences. I know we all hate that but it's true. Normally I wouldn't invest myself in someone else's miscalculated risk. But let just one of those guns be used in a shooting and see what happens.
Well that sure sounds like a liberal argument... Are you sure that's what you meant?
Dictating the actions of the individual (taking away their liberty) for the benefit of the collective is the exact argument used to support ALL gun control, Obamacare, and most other progressive talking points.
Hopefully the thieves all went to an FFL and got their BGC's done.
Well that sure sounds like a liberal argument...
Dictating the actions of the individual (taking away their liberty) for the benefit of the collective is the exact argument used to support ALL gun control, Obamacare, and most other progressive talking points.
It is a Liberal argument and it is winning. I said we all hated it. Doesn't change our reality.
Evil black rifles "falling into the wrong hands" won't do us any favors. This is why the ATF ran Fast 'n Furious, to make sure guns fell into the wrong hands to create data points and heart wrenching tragedies to counter decreasing gun violence.
We see a failure of gun control in this. Feels driven voters see a need for more gun control.
Statistics, facts, etc... Won't matter.
In essence, we become Liberals' self-fulfilling prophecy by being stupid. Leaving firearms openly unsecured in a vacant store known by all to sell firearms is careless if not stupid. Just like none of us leave a gun in the open and unsecured when we leave our homes which are not known by all to have firearms.
(I am ASSuming that is what happened but I still want to know more)
I'm not saying the Liberal argument is right. I'm just saying folks shouldn't be stupid because the consequences are broad given the status quo.
And I never said Bass Pro should be forced to anything different. I said they were careless. I don't believe in a world where people are forced to make good decisions. But it's coming and stupid people are only hurrying it.
I completely disagree and the fact his happens (not the only case) demonstrates the risk isn't low.
Then by your argument, the fact that a meteor stuck the earth 10M years ago, killing a large number of the biologics on the planet, means that the risk of it happening again isn't low. Got it.
This is just the new Fast n Furious play that Lynch is running.. theft and funneling to the cartels
Another thing I just remembered... Bass Pro didn't allow CCW in their stores until late 2012 (IIRC) until a lot of us bitched about it.
So the company that didn't want you to have a firearm on your person, under positive control, can't even secure their own weapons.
[ROFL2]
Then by your argument, the fact that a meteor stuck the earth 10M years ago, killing a large number of the biologics on the planet, means that the risk of it happening again isn't low. Got it.
Gun retailers get hit all the time. It's a known and manageable risk.
http://abc13.com/news/thieves-rip-off-gun-store-door-escape-with-cache-of-weapons/1225291/
Asteroid strikes not so much. But it's a good comparison because gun thefts and asteroid strikes are so similar in frequency and risk.
Asteroid strikes not so much. But it's a good comparison because gun thefts and asteroid strikes are so similar in frequency and risk.
Things can happen all the time, and still be low risk. Again, the risk is low for the gun shop - they have insurance to pay for the loss.
But lets not talk about risk reduction vs. risk mitigation vs. risk management vs. risk transference
Things can happen all the time, and still be low risk. Again, the risk is low for the gun shop - they have insurance to pay for the loss.
But lets not talk about risk reduction vs. risk mitigation vs. risk management vs. risk transference
Deductibles
Premium increases
Bad press
Litigation (there is no shield for negligent dealers)
Potentially losing all or part of the business through regulation (gun control)
vs
Occasional scratch and dent sale OR finding employees who don't scratch and dent
Safe(s)
Police said hunting rifles, a shot gun and other merchandise was stolen from the store. Thieves did not take AR-15 assault rifles like police originally feared.
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 20:19
It is a Liberal argument and it is winning. I said we all hated it. Doesn't change our reality.
Evil black rifles "falling into the wrong hands" won't do us any favors. This is why the ATF ran Fast 'n Furious, to make sure guns fell into the wrong hands to create data points and heart wrenching tragedies to counter decreasing gun violence.
We see a failure of gun control in this. Feels driven voters see a need for more gun control.
Statistics, facts, etc... Won't matter.
In essence, we become Liberals' self-fulfilling prophecy by being stupid. Leaving firearms openly unsecured in a vacant store known by all to sell firearms is careless if not stupid. Just like none of us leave a gun in the open and unsecured when we leave our homes which are not known by all to have firearms.
(I am ASSuming that is what happened but I still want to know more)
I'm not saying the Liberal argument is right. I'm just saying folks shouldn't be stupid because the consequences are broad given the status quo.
And I never said Bass Pro should be forced to anything different. I said they were careless. I don't believe in a world where people are forced to make good decisions. But it's coming and stupid people are only hurrying it.
Okay. I don't think I disagree with that.
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 20:26
Police said hunting rifles, a shot gun and other merchandise was stolen from the store. Thieves did not take AR-15 assault rifles like police originally feared.
FIFT.
FIFY.
I copy/pasted from the news site, you fixed it for them, not me :)
HoneyBadger
03-10-2016, 20:49
I copy/pasted from the news site, you fixed it for them, not me :)
Correct. I will now "fix that for you." [LOL]
rock_castle
03-10-2016, 21:16
So tired of the media agenda regarding AR's. "High powered assault rifle" is inaccurate and just yellow journalism. Get your facts straight.
Fox 31 is the National Enquirer and Star Magazine of Denver news stations. If a local station is going to get it wrong it's Fox 31.
Stevensje
03-10-2016, 21:23
Just think..... If the AR-15 was illegal, they never would have been stolen in the first place.[Sarcasm2]
hghclsswhitetrsh
03-10-2016, 22:10
I don't even know why anyone would want or need to own one of those Glock assault rifles.
KevDen2005
03-10-2016, 22:31
Wait were they robbed or burglarized
Robbery
Robbery is defined by the law as taking or trying to take something from someone that has value by utilizing intimidation, force or threat. In order for robbery to take place, a victim must be present at the scene and can occur with a single victim or, in cases like bank hold ups, multiple victims.
Burglary
Burglary is defined by the law as the unlawful entry to a structure to commit theft or a felony. In order for burglary to take place, a victim does not have to be present. When a burglary takes place, the structure being unlawfully entered can be any number of building types including business offices, personal homes and even garden sheds. Burglary is not the term used for crimes committed on cars.
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Yep, drives me crazy when I hear it used the other way, but I never really say anything as most people don't know the difference.
Yep, drives me crazy when I hear it used the other way, but I never really say anything as most people don't know the difference.
Figured it would bother some of the LEO guys around. They are not the same thing
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GilpinGuy
03-10-2016, 23:51
This shouldn't have happened. We have mandatory bgc's now. How could the thieves walk out of there without doing a bgc? Isn't it "mandatory"?
We need more laws.
Great-Kazoo
03-10-2016, 23:58
It's an inside job, who cares. The media will hype anything gun related
https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M8e00925c367b44974bfe141640b1c5b4H0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Wonder if they got any sweet Bass Pro hoodies while they were there...
Oh....now the PD is backtracking...
The thieves didn't steal any AR-15s, just some hunting rifles and a shotgun.
KestrelBike
03-11-2016, 08:18
I know quite a few gun stores that move their firearms from the shelf into actual safes at night, and back out in the day.
Sure, it's extra time and money, but at least it prevents this.
I gotta imagine a lot of the insurance companies require nightly procedures like that, too.
Figured it would bother some of the LEO guys around. They are not the same thing
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I'll be sure to be 100% accurate in my word choices for thread titles moving forward. Can we update the thread title to "Someone jacked BassPro's sh*t"?
Just because the guns stolen weren't AR-15s, they were sh*t now?!
Just because the guns stolen weren't AR-15s, they were sh*t now?!
Duh. All other guns are ineffective.
KevDen2005
03-11-2016, 11:38
A few hunting rifles and a shotgun? Doesn't really fit the smash and grab MO. Handguns are normally target #1.
98% chance this has "inside" connotations. And the "breaking a window to cover inventory loss" type of thing is plausible. Jerry's here in Grand Junction also got hit, and they are likely one of the most secure stores (very, very limited glass, etc.). Most of the gun stores in Junction, including mine, would have been easier hits. (I can say that as I'm closing out my inventory and don't have much to worry about anymore)
That said, I've never had employees. So... never once had a single thing stolen. Never had a B&E. And I didn't put everything into a safe at night. Employees are the major contributing risk factor. True hits happen, but are more rare.
I know Jerry's, one of my favorite places to stop in every time I visit GJ. I would agree that it's more secure than most.
Oh....now the PD is backtracking...
The thieves didn't steal any AR-15s, just some hunting rifles and a shotgun.
Whew! [sigh]
Aside from the media's colossal leap in order to make things sound even more important, it sounded to me like it was an amateur (and very lucky) smash-and-grab.
I had to laugh at the news' feeble attempt to backtrack and justify their previous headlines when they said, "These hunting rifles ARE high powered..."
Aside from the media's colossal leap in order to make things sound even more important, it sounded to me like it was an amateur (and very lucky) smash-and-grab.
I had to laugh at the news' feeble attempt to backtrack and justify their previous headlines when they said, "These hunting rifles ARE high powered..."
The PD started the rumor of "AR-15s", but the local media certainly ran with it. I'm actually a little surprised that they didn't twist the 'hunting rifle' angle into "sniper rifle". [panic]
The PD started the rumor of "AR-15s", but the local media certainly ran with it. I'm actually a little surprised that they didn't twist the 'hunting rifle' angle into "sniper rifle". [panic]
Maybe they didn't have high power scopes?
http://www.9news.com/mb/news/local/guns-recovered-arrest-made-in-bass-pro-shops-robbery/112595499
Responded to call of shots fired..... ND brought the fuzz down on them?
Sounds like a happy ending to the story.
Excellent! Definitely a happy ending.
Great news! Story mentions his drug use (prohibited person?) so I guess we have a another win for mandatory for BGCs keeping guns out of his hands.
Great news! Story mentions his drug use (prohibited person?)...
...plus an outstanding warrant.
Sheesh, when are these criminals going to follow all of these laws that impact us law-abiding folks? [Sarcasm2]
porfiriozg
04-01-2016, 19:42
At the bottom it said
"Thieves did not take AR-15 assault rifles like police originally feared.
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