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Doc45
03-11-2016, 18:54
An agitator in the crowd at Trump's Chicago event got everybody all riled up. Security cleared a lot of people out but others still in the hall. Waiting to hear if it's cancelled or not. Still developing, oh boy ain't this fun lol.

Looks like lots of protesters outside.

Roger Ronas
03-11-2016, 19:37
Damn Dumbocrats starting trouble again.

Zundfolge
03-11-2016, 19:44
Yep ... Democrats ... our "religion of peace".

roberth
03-11-2016, 19:50
Looks like its time for Mr. Water Cannon.

Zundfolge
03-11-2016, 20:09
Looks like its time for Mr. Water Cannon.
Yep. time to give Obama's Brown Shirts a shower.

roberth
03-11-2016, 20:28
Yep. time to give Obama's Brown Shirts a shower.

Don't forget to clean behind their ears. [ROFL2]

I wonder if Chicago will allow the miscreants to "run free" ala Baltimore.

Gman
03-11-2016, 21:02
Trump cancelled the rally due to "security concerns". The troublemakers will chalk it up as a win.

ETA: How can people take anyone wearing a BLM shirt in Chicago? I guess they missed the 21 shot in Chicago in 20 hours last week?

Big E3
03-11-2016, 21:27
See that's why you can't add demonrats to a republican rally. No wait, are you sure this really happened? There's no way any of the live and let live party of tolerance demonrats could be anything but peaceful and respectful when somebody with a different opinion was speaking. I guess it could have been the anti Trump pro Rubio republicans. This is why republicans can never have nice things.

Gman
03-11-2016, 21:30
See that's why you can't add demonrats to a republican rally. No wait, are you sure this really happened? There's no way any of the live and let live party of tolerance demonrats could be anything but peaceful and respectful when somebody with a different opinion was speaking. I guess it could have been the anti Trump pro Rubio republicans. This is why republicans can never have nice things.
Your freedom of speech ends when you disagree with them. Meeting them "in the middle" , aka "bi-partisanship", means giving them everything they want.

mackbamf
03-11-2016, 21:46
I would love to see the headlines if a Sanders rally was shutdown by Trump protesters. The left half of the country would shit their pants and burn down every major city.

Great-Kazoo
03-11-2016, 22:50
I would love to see the headlines if a Sanders rally was shutdown by Trump protesters. The left half of the country would shit their pants and burn down every major city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nktfou15U5A

HoneyBadger
03-11-2016, 22:56
I would love to see the headlines if a Sanders rally was shutdown by Trump protesters. The left half of the country would shit their pants and burn down every major city.
This would be interesting. I would have to grab some popcorn and watch it unfold.

Zundfolge
03-11-2016, 23:11
I don't look forward to the horrors of outright civil war ... but there are times that I think I would prefer those horrors to this stupid bullshit.

At least if we were killing each other on the field of battle there would be some honor to this nonsense ... and a definite conclusion to this crap (and our side has all the guns :p ).

KAPA
03-11-2016, 23:26
I am going to go out on a limb and say you have just seen the left's playbook and you can expect them to ramp this up until election day. I have been a Cruz guy since he was the first to announce but we are seeing who the enemy is and they HATE Trump! I will have no problem uniting for Trump or whoever the nominee is.

I hope Trump keeps it up and exposes these idiots we are seeing tonight. With any luck they will leave the country once Trump takes office.

Great-Kazoo
03-12-2016, 00:06
WE SHALL OVERCOMB

davsel
03-12-2016, 01:02
The feral freeloaders are sensing the gravy train from Obama is shutting down.
They have become organized and allowed to "protest" throughout the past several years.
This will not end well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVszzOp3iWM

Doc45
03-12-2016, 08:11
I wish we could throw out all the candidates and start over. Sigh, think I'll go out for a ride and forget about this stuff for a day.

Mista Bukit
03-12-2016, 08:41
I find it distasteful that the other Republican candidates are also using this as a political opportunity to bash Trump. The point is that the left is trying to silence Trump and whether or not the other guys agree with him or not their supporting of these methods because it might help them in the short term makes them worse the Democrats.

Great-Kazoo
03-12-2016, 08:56
I find it distasteful that the other Republican candidates are also using this as a political opportunity to bash Trump. The point is that the left is trying to silence Trump and whether or not the other guys agree with him or not their supporting of these methods because it might help them in the short term makes them worse the Democrats.

Welcome To Politics 101

Aloha_Shooter
03-12-2016, 09:41
I'm pretty annoyed with the other GOP candidates blaming Trump for it. Trump is far from my top pick, even now, but this was clearly orchestrated by the regressive Stalinists of the Left. If it occurred at a rally for Hillary or Bernie, the MSM and Hollywood would be falling all over themselves to blame the protestors and the GOP. All the FSA should ship themselves off to France where students are protesting the potential end of the 35-hour work week ...

KestrelBike
03-12-2016, 10:10
I'm pretty annoyed with the other GOP candidates blaming Trump for it. Trump is far from my top pick, even now, but this was clearly orchestrated by the regressive Stalinists of the Left. If it occurred at a rally for Hillary or Bernie, the MSM and Hollywood would be falling all over themselves to blame the protestors and the GOP. All the FSA should ship themselves off to France where students are protesting the potential end of the 35-hour work week ...
I don't know, I think all this could work in Trump's favor. It's not like anyone who supported him is going to not vote for him because FSA/BLM stopped him from campaigning, it's going to do the opposite and perhaps grab a few independents & fence-sitters. It'd be pretty genius if those conspiracy-theorists saying that Trump orchestrated this are correct.

Irving
03-12-2016, 10:35
How is a protest going to capture a fence sitter vote? I don't think it will work out that way.

Skip
03-12-2016, 10:48
I don't look forward to the horrors of outright civil war ... but there are times that I think I would prefer those horrors to this stupid bullshit.

[snip]

I think things just changed. Not only do we look like a third world country but the political process is overtly being compromised.

It's one thing for Libs to say "we won!" and control the Federal government to force change that folks don't want. But another thing to lack the legitimacy of the process. If you cheat, did you really win?

If a person were closely examining the moral/ethical lay of the land, I'd say it just changed.



I'm pretty annoyed with the other GOP candidates blaming Trump for it. Trump is far from my top pick, even now, but this was clearly orchestrated by the regressive Stalinists of the Left. If it occurred at a rally for Hillary or Bernie, the MSM and Hollywood would be falling all over themselves to blame the protestors and the GOP. All the FSA should ship themselves off to France where students are protesting the potential end of the 35-hour work week ...

Me too. Cruz just terminated his campaign, IMHO.

You don't look at a Soros funded, Ayers organized shut down (it wasn't a protest) composed of Bernie Sanders supporters and then blame the Republican target.

There is a theory that the Trump camp may have wanted this to happen as it would further polarize the field. If so, Cruz played right into it. He has either disqualified himself by being stupid or by being a traitor. Either way, unprecedented GOP shenanigans withstanding, he is done.

mackbamf
03-12-2016, 14:47
If Republicans (especially Trump supporters) protested and shut down either D candidate rally you know there would be screams of Racists, Nazi's, bullies, strong armed intimidation tactics, etc. Instead the headlines read of We Won!! Trump stopped dead in his tracks!! This is all such a prime example of how you better be PC in this country and if you don't follow the PC crowd you will be ostricized. The social climate in this country and what is being allowed to happen is disgusting.

Zundfolge
03-12-2016, 15:34
Cruz just terminated his campaign, IMHO.

I'm a Cruz supporter and after this I think its over for him as well. Oh well, as much as I think he'd make a good president I really would love to see him stay in the Senate for a while and maybe end up with Mitch's job someday.

Skip
03-12-2016, 16:01
I'm a Cruz supporter and after this I think its over for him as well. Oh well, as much as I think he'd make a good president I really would love to see him stay in the Senate for a while and maybe end up with Mitch's job someday.

I think he would have done very well as President and probably about the best we could hope for (in a lot of ways). I don't think we're going to vote our way out of what's happened/happening but I think he was a good option. Trump has some things going for him as well (love him or hate him). Also not going to be our savior.

Zundfolge
03-12-2016, 16:06
I think he would have done very well as President and probably about the best we could hope for (in a lot of ways). I don't think we're going to vote our way out of what's happened/happening but I think he was a good option. Trump has some things going for him as well (love him or hate him). Also not going to be our savior.

I have been thinking for some time now that America will not be saved. Western civilization is in its twilight and what replaces it is going to be very dark. Thankfully as a Christian I believe that the end of western civilization is an unfortunate but necessary step for the return of Christ and our eventual victory (I just hope he doesn't keep us waiting for another two thousand years).

roberth
03-12-2016, 16:07
I'm a Cruz guy I agree with Skip and Zundfolge; Cruz is probably done, shot himself in the foot. Rubio is just going through the motions, campaign been on life-support since he's the new GOPe darling.

Skip
03-12-2016, 16:35
I have been thinking for some time now that America will not be saved. Western civilization is in its twilight and what replaces it is going to be very dark. Thankfully as a Christian I believe that the end of western civilization is an unfortunate but necessary step for the return of Christ and our eventual victory (I just hope he doesn't keep us waiting for another two thousand years).

No man shall know the day or hour.

The dark ages came and went with a lot of parallels to what is happening now. There is hope that a remnant could be carved out if people have the courage to make it, learning from the mistakes that got us here.

http://commonsensegovernment.com/the-tytler-cycle-revisited/


Stepping back from it all, the US is 320M+ people welcomed from all over the world who, thanks to the elimination of states' rights, all have to live under the same system/values decided by 51% of (supposedly) eligible voters. It shouldn't be surprising that the nation is no longer ideologically compatible.

KestrelBike
03-12-2016, 19:44
Stepping back from it all, the US is 320M+ people welcomed from all over the world who, thanks to the elimination of states' rights, all have to live under the same system/values decided by 51% of (supposedly) eligible voters. It shouldn't be surprising that the nation is no longer ideologically compatible.
Makes sense to me!

HoneyBadger
03-12-2016, 21:12
This discussion reminds me of Fermi's paradox.

roberth
03-12-2016, 21:38
Neat!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox


The Fermi paradox or Fermi's paradox, named after Enrico Fermi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi), is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability) of the existence of extraterrestrial (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life) civilizations, such as in the Drake equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation), and the lack of evidence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence) for such civilizations.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-:0-1) The basic points of the argument, made by physicists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicists) Enrico Fermi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi) (1901–1954) and Michael H. Hart (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_H._Hart) (born 1932), are:


There are billions of stars in the galaxy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy) that are similar to the Sun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun) [2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-2)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-3) including many billions of years older than Earth.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-5)
With high probability, some of these stars will have Earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth)-like planets,[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-6)[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-7) and if the Earth is typical, some might develop intelligent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_intelligence) life.
Some of these civilizations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization) might develop interstellar travel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_travel), a step the Earth is investigating now.
Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the Milky Way galaxy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way_galaxy) could be completely traversed in about a million years.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-Hart-8)

According to this line of thinking, the Earth should have already been visited by extraterrestrial aliens. In an informal conversation, Fermi noted no convincing evidence of this, nor any signs of alien intelligence anywhere in the observable universe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe), leading him to ask, "Where is everybody?"[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-OSTI-19850301-9)[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-NYT-20150803-10) There have been many attempts to explain the Fermi paradox,[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-11)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-12) primarily suggesting either that intelligent extraterrestrial life is extremely rare, or proposing reasons that such civilizations have not contacted or visited Earth.

Zundfolge
03-12-2016, 21:55
Fermi noted no convincing evidence of this, nor any signs of alien intelligence anywhere in the observable universe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe), leading him to ask, "Where is everybody?"[ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#cite_note-OSTI-19850301-9)
What if we're the first (and thus most advanced) intelligent species? There has to be a first, why couldn't it be us?

Or maybe most intelligent species destroy themselves because the level of technology needed for interstellar space travel is somewhat greater than the technology needed to wipe your entire planet clean in a war. One problem with great technology is that it creates resource abundance, which ultimately destroys the morality of a species as they turn from K selection to r selection. So maybe no species is ever capable of interstellar space travel because they keep hitting the reset button before then (or wiping themselves out completely).

theGinsue
03-12-2016, 22:29
Protesters interrupted Trumps Kansas City rally today then got pissy all over the internet about the police using pepper spray against them. Claimed thy have the right of "free speech" at these rally's. I'd hazard a guess that they don't think conservatives have the same right to protest in the same way at a Bernie or Hillary rally.

HoneyBadger
03-12-2016, 22:40
Or maybe most intelligent species destroy themselves because the level of technology needed for interstellar space travel is somewhat greater than the technology needed to wipe your entire planet clean in a war. One problem with great technology is that it creates resource abundance, which ultimately destroys the morality of a species as they turn from K selection to r selection. So maybe no species is ever capable of interstellar space travel because they keep hitting the reset button before then (or wiping themselves out completely).
^this is basically what the paradox is. What if we are rapidly approaching that reset button with weapons tech, artificial intelligence, or ISIS invaders, etc?

HoneyBadger
03-12-2016, 22:41
Protesters interrupted Trumps Kansas City rally today then got pissy all over the internet about the police using pepper spray against them. Claimed thy have the right of "free speech" at these rally's. I'd hazard a guess that they don't think conservatives have the same right to protest in the same way at a Bernie or Hillary rally.
I nominate you to find out. ;)

KestrelBike
03-12-2016, 23:42
What if we're the first (and thus most advanced) intelligent species? There has to be a first, why couldn't it be us?

Or maybe most intelligent species destroy themselves because the level of technology needed for interstellar space travel is somewhat greater than the technology needed to wipe your entire planet clean in a war. One problem with great technology is that it creates resource abundance, which ultimately destroys the morality of a species as they turn from K selection to r selection. So maybe no species is ever capable of interstellar space travel because they keep hitting the reset button before then (or wiping themselves out completely).
All it takes is one planet with a more homogenous primary species, or a planet where the Nazis won, or a planet where the impetus was clear to see (an incoming asteroid the size of a mountain) and thus the motivation to get s*** done was greater than "hope and change"

Skip
03-13-2016, 10:51
Protesters interrupted Trumps Kansas City rally today then got pissy all over the internet about the police using pepper spray against them. Claimed thy have the right of "free speech" at these rally's. I'd hazard a guess that they don't think conservatives have the same right to protest in the same way at a Bernie or Hillary rally.

No doubt.

We're moving beyond the typical casual hypocrisy and onto the new rules.