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When does everyone turn on their sprinklers?
Usually the second week of May.
hghclsswhitetrsh
04-10-2016, 13:07
Mother's Day weekend.
I wait until after all of the spring rains are through.
May 1st. NEVER before because I don't like replacing a backflow valve every year. I learned that lesson several times.
If you're tempted to do it earlier, do some hand watering. A little bit goes a long way this time of year (grass isn't supposed to be green yet).
Copy that. I'm getting spring fever and want the yard looking its best. I'll wait a bit.
The sooner you force it to grow, the sooner you get to mow. [Coffee]
I let the grass wake up on its own time. Sprinklers get turned on in early May.
My neighbors' yards are green year round.
JohnTRourke
04-10-2016, 16:20
the problem isn't turning on the sprinklers. The problem is that the backflow freezes. Average last date of frost around here is May 15th.
BUT
take some insulation, put it over the backflow (the big ugly copper thing that comes out of your house), put a garbage bag over it (to keep it from getting wet)
good down into the single digits.
Really, I swear to you, used to do sprinklers for years and years.
Just because it's on, doesn't mean you have to turn the clock on yet.
But the longer you wait, 1 the lower your water bill and 2. the better your grass will do in the heat of the summer. Let it stress a little and build some roots.
Good advice John. I give it ago early to mid may.
gnihcraes
04-10-2016, 20:52
already need to mow over here. Stupid grass.
I wait until mid May, or if it keeps raining, wait until the grass looks like it needs the water. It was late june last year when I decided it was time. Then had to shut it all down in 2 months.
TEAMRICO
04-10-2016, 21:42
I started mine last weekend.
Grass is starting to get greener already. My lawn rival got head start on me. Game on!
Mine has been on for over a month. I've mowed three times already and fed twice.
Here's my lawn on this day last year (I didn't take another photo this year but it looks about the same right now) when I took a photo to post to Facebook with the line: "Attention neighbors: it's April & you already lost Lawn Wars 2015. Better luck in 2016"
The front with my neighbor's postage stamp for comparison purpose:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UdW08kTsJBM/VwvFkyODJGI/AAAAAAAAOQo/l8ZqtuW6QQQqx6lX9JWesMiO4bEnprPKgCCo/s960-Ic42/1798267_1091783724182757_3028489364720539369_n.jpg
The back but harder to see the neighbor's back yard for comparison:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KPzZTEa-j7M/VwvFnaxyiyI/AAAAAAAAOQs/NQzqQAi9NEgayw193VUig-Hn2hsdAA4DACCo/s960-Ic42/10430417_1091783760849420_7702916360577468658_n.jp g
...they didn't fare much better this year either.
Ive been very tempted to fire them up. I finally have a house that has sprinklers front and back and everything on a drip. I want to have a lush green lawn all summer for once.
You really don't even need to do blowouts in Colorado (even though I used to do blowouts as a side gig years ago). It doesn't freeze deep enough to burst lines (if they're buried deep enough which isn't all that deep in Colorado) and only occasionally will you have to replace a cracked head and that's like a $5 fix & a 2min process in most instances. I keep an eye on the upcoming weather and if it's going to get below freezing I turn off the sprinkler supply valve in the basement, open up the little drain valve and then open the check balls on the backflow siphon and let the water drain from it. Worse case scenario you break a vaccum breaker and the parts are about $30 at Home Depot w/o any coupons and you can change them out in about 5min time. Other than that, I don't do blowouts or turn ons because mine are basically on year round. It gets VERY dry in Colorado in the winter and it's wise to give your yard a good drink a few times in the winter too when we get those long periods of dry, windy weather to keep things happy.
My neighbors' yards are green year round.
Same with my parents' and their grass has been dead for years! Amazing what some green paint can do!
My neighbor's lawn looks like Jer's, even in December. He puts a lot of iron in the lawn, but that's all I really know.
My neighbor's lawn looks like Jer's, even in December. He puts a lot of iron in the lawn, but that's all I really know.
Yeah, Iron is the key. Don't waste your money on high-dollar Scott's and other brands that are high in nitrogen have lots of filler labeled 'weed control' but don't offer enough of what our Colorado soil needs: iron.
I get Green-N-Grow at our local Co-op off of Mulberry & I25. It's only $20 a bag and lasts me quite a long time. It's higher in iron so you want to sweep your walks, drives and patios after application or you'll get rust spots but other than that I love this stuff. Costs a fraction of what the big name brands do at the big box stores plus I use less because it works better. The closer you are to the mountains the more iron your lawn likely needs. When you get proper feeding you'll use less water too. Careful with this stuff though, if you get it on too heavy you'll have to mow every 2-3 days so I suggest a light application and then a week or two later another light one until you get the dosage right.
If you're lawn is healthy enough weed control will be a none issue because the healthy grass will choke out the weeds naturally. I spot treat dandelions (having neighbors upwind who don't care about their lawn sucks) with Weed-B-Gone and weeds in rock beds either get Round-Up or pulled by hand. I end up spraying probably one dandelion per week at most on average. Get your lawn healthy and you won't have to deal with weeds. Crab grass is the most challenging thing I face along the front sidewalk edge because of neighbors upwind and uphill coupled with the fact that that sidewalk is south-facing so that section of soil dries out quicker than the rest making it difficult to keep as healthy as the rest of my yard.
When it comes to lawns, I don't mess around.
Here's the stuff I use with the analysis which has the iron at 5% when I think most are like 0.01-0.25% or so.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-olwymkatZYo/VBN9SqdR2sI/AAAAAAAALAs/WxwMWC0GSO45srH6RpIJPvpw-49yPqnEgCCo/s720-Ic42/20140405_112242-1.jpg
If you're really into it you can get a soil analysis done and find out exactly what you need and then add that in the way of fertilizer but if you live in Colorado I can almost guarantee your soil is iron deficient. The closer to the mountains you are the worse it is. I miss the rich, black, loamy soil I had in Nebraska where my fertilizer needs for a lawn were next to nothing. Here you can water 45min per day thinking your lawn is dry & still now get a green lawn when it likely just needs a little bit of iron to perk things up.
hghclsswhitetrsh
04-11-2016, 11:25
What Jer lacks in truck he makes up for in grass. Hehehe. Looks good though!
What Jer lacks in truck he makes up for in grass. Hehehe. Looks good though!
Nah, I just research before I commit to anything because I can't afford to waste money on mistakes & like having the best of everything... to include trucks. [Coffee]
Jefe's AR
04-11-2016, 15:18
I'm w/ Jer. Only I use Ironite and Revive. The only fertilizer I use is the stuff the landscapers put down when I have them aerate. Aeration is critical. Twice a year. In the Fall if you only do it once. Fertilizer as well.
I turned on my sprinklers last weekend. Have mowed twice. Power raked this weekend and will have it aerated and fertilized on the 30th. My research suggests that aeration is best done when the lawn is pretty much fully active. So later in Spring and earlier in Fall. Mid October for me.
Water rarely hurts anything but your wallet.
You all got me excited. Probably going to fire them up tonight.
Seeing what the weatherman is predicting this weekend, I'd say no need to rush on watering.
Aloha_Shooter
04-13-2016, 08:33
No sooner than Memorial Day, want to see what this year's rains look like. I think I had turned them on early back in 2006 and we got those daily rains ... I turned them off and never had to turn them back on all summer. Ever since then, I want to see what the rains look like before I waste time and money with the sprinklers.
Seeing what the weatherman is predicting this weekend, I'd say no need to rush on watering.
Rarely does 'rain' equate to useful precipitation for your lawn in an arid region like Colorado if your goal is a healthy and robust lawn. I've had people criticize me for watering while it's raining but just because it's raining doesn't mean there's enough water there to replace even 2min of watering directly with direct irrigation. Personally, I love having a lush green lawn and there is no such thing as 'too early' for me because the greener the better so when we're consistently away from well bellow freezing every night I get them on and then drain the backflow the day of another freeze upcoming.
No sooner than Memorial Day, want to see what this year's rains look like. I think I had turned them on early back in 2006 and we got those daily rains ... I turned them off and never had to turn them back on all summer. Ever since then, I want to see what the rains look like before I waste time and money with the sprinklers.
That was a good year. I hardly watered at all and if we had better soil here in this neighborhood I could see not having to use irrigation all summer that year. It was the perfect combination of lower temps, consistent rain, higher humidity and low winds. It was a perfect storm of positive conditions and I doubt we'll see that again for years to come. We've already had some pretty windy days and the wind will zap your lawn dry a lot more than most people realize. Once you're focus is the efficiency on how much water you use you really start to recognize how much more you need during windy periods. So I guess I'm saying that if your plan is to wait and see if it's going to be that perfect again to save money from turning on the sprinklers at all the entire summer it's probably not worth the gamble. Also, why not turn them on yourself and then you won't have to worry about the money aspect?
Jefe's AR
04-13-2016, 09:46
Are your water costs that much?
You can do A LOT of watering for the cost of a bag of fertilizer. And likely just as effective unless you have other problems with your lawn.
Aloha_Shooter
04-13-2016, 09:52
I DO turn my sprinklers on myself. I just don't see the point in wasting potable water if the grass gets what it needs naturally. I strive for presentable but not showcase. I'd rather spend $5 on ammo than the lawn ... ;-)
Are your water costs that much?
You can do A LOT of watering for the cost of a bag of fertilizer. And likely just as effective unless you have other problems with your lawn.
My watering costs are very low actually. A $20 bag of that fertilizer I posted will last me a full season or more. When I first moved to Colorado I wasted a TON of water on my lawn because in Nebraska we had great soil so all you did was water more when your lawn wasn't deep green and healthy. I was watering like crazy and my lawn still looks dried out and crappy. Couldn't figure it out until my neighbor asked me what I used for fertilizer and I was like.... fertilizer? lol A couple of decades later I have more of a focus on feeding properly and my watering is a fraction of my neighbors even though my lawn is far healthier. I think it comes down to do you want a truly healthy and impressive lawn or do you just want something to take up the area around the outside of your house and be just healthy enough to keep your neighbors from hating you? Not everyone takes pride in their lawn these days so lots of my tips will be lost on most reading them.
Jefe's AR
04-13-2016, 10:04
I grew up on a well and we watered A LOT with the only cost being the electricity to run the well. So, I guess I'm just not averse to turning the water on. I mean, you're just putting clean water back into the ground. [Dunno]
Also, don't let anyone tell you there's no water in Colorado. Yes, it's dry and arid but there's more water underground than the Great Lakes. IMO, the 'water savers' are just like the 'climate changers'.
I grew up on a well and we watered A LOT with the only cost being the electricity to run the well. So, I guess I'm just not averse to turning the water on. I mean, you're just putting clean water back into the ground. [Dunno]
Also, don't let anyone tell you there's no water in Colorado. Yes, it's dry and arid but there's more water underground than the Great Lakes. IMO, the 'water savers' are just like the 'climate changers'.
None of my statements are in regards to saving the environment so much as trying to save myself a few bucks. While there is lots of water underground very little of that is above ground and Colorado is a very arid climate... a high desert if you will. If it wasn't for the work of man to bring water here we'd all have xeriscape like Arizona. We're all a little spoiled with lush green Kentucky bluegrass lawns that we've all come to expect but it does take a lot more effort here than it did for me in Nebraska.
JohnTRourke
04-13-2016, 10:38
Are your water costs that much?
You can do A LOT of watering for the cost of a bag of fertilizer. And likely just as effective unless you have other problems with your lawn.
Longmont and the watering costs are outrageous. Plus I have a big lawn. (unlike that postage stamp picture posted above)
In july, my bills can easily top $500 and I only water when necessary and keep the grass VERY long. But it's very porous soil where I live, so it goes right down.
Longmont and the watering costs are outrageous. Plus I have a big lawn. (unlike that postage stamp picture posted above)
In july, my bills can easily top $500 and I only water when necessary and keep the grass VERY long. But it's very porous soil where I live, so it goes right down.
I believe I laid about 2,500sq ft of sod when I did the landscaping so it's not huge by any stretch but if that number was doubled my watering needs wouldn't be double as I'm pretty good at dialing in my heads and watering needs just like if it were only 1,500sq ft I wouldn't use much less water than I do now. Our soil up against the foothills is the opposite and it's VERY dense with clay. The grass roots don't penetrate at all and no amount of 'watering infrequently for long periods' approach will amend that. So for me I water very short periods (usually 10min) once per day (less with sustained & measurable rain) and during the very hot days of mid-summer I'll hit them again mid to late afternoon for about 5min per zone or so to keep the lawn cool and from going into shock.
Too many times people want to fight the conditions they're given rather than just working with them which ends up being much easier. I cringe at the commercials that our tax dollars are paying for telling us to 'not be that guy' who waters his lawn in the heat of the day which wastes water. Bullshit. When you're exercising in the heat of the day do you keep yourself from drinking water because it's wasteful? Of course not. Why would it be any different for your lawn if you actually care about keeping it healthy? The same people who are programmed to see me as being wasteful when my sprinklers are on mid-day probably have a water bill 2-3x higher than mine every month so it's a complete waste of efforts.
Jer, how about a quick lawn tutorial?
Wonder if now would be a good time to overseed with the expected weekend storm and all the moisture it's supposed to bring?
Wonder if now would be a good time to overseed with the expected weekend storm and all the moisture it's supposed to bring?
I was just thinking the same thing.. got it aerated and fertilized before the last snow... now I'm thinking some seed needs to go down.
Jer, how about a quick lawn tutorial?
I was thinking about starting a picture thread where people post photos of their lawn, then the hive mind can chime in with ideas.
A tutorial? How? I think I already gave all of my tips. Don't overseed so I have no input on that. Never really felt the need.
If you have uneven areas or low spots you can rake in light amounts of dirt to the lower lying areas and over time the root base will wise with the new dirt level and eventually (years) you will level out the lower areas.
I mean, other than that I can't really think of any other things I do really. I like to keep shit basic but not slack on said basics.
I layed down some organic fertilizer on Sunday. All the moisture this weekend should really help out.
I gets aerated on the 16th.
rock_castle
04-13-2016, 20:11
Early May
Jefe's AR
04-14-2016, 11:36
If you have uneven areas or low spots you can rake in light amounts of dirt to the lower lying areas and over time the root base will wise with the new dirt level and eventually (years) you will level out the lower areas.
Builder's sand or Mason's sand mixed with just a tad of compost or potting soil. Not too much, mostly sand. Throw sand down on low spots being careful to keep grass blade tips exposed. Level out. Rain and or sprinkling will finish most of the leveling work. Depending on how 'low' your low spots are will depend on how long it will take to completely level. Be mindful of any weed seed that may be in the compost or sand. Not much you can do about it other than pull or spray any that may pop up.
Builder's sand or Mason's sand mixed with just a tad of compost or potting soil. Not too much, mostly sand. Throw sand down on low spots being careful to keep grass blade tips exposed. Level out. Rain and or sprinkling will finish most of the leveling work. Depending on how 'low' your low spots are will depend on how long it will take to completely level. Be mindful of any weed seed that may be in the compost or sand. Not much you can do about it other than pull or spray any that may pop up.
I found if I tried to use 'better soil' then I had uneven nutrients in my lawn moving forward. We are in a newer development so it's not a big deal to go a couple neighborhoods over where there's mounds of dirt that I can grab a few 5gal buckets of w/o anyone caring. I can get the thinner stuff and then broadcast thread to the lower areas and rake level and then let the water do it's work. I do a very light layer over several applications because I don't want a massive patch that looks different from the rest of my lawn.
Jefe's AR
04-14-2016, 11:50
I was thinking about starting a picture thread where people post photos of their lawn, then the hive mind can chime in with ideas.
Today about 11:40 am.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/ColoTJ/IMG_3351_zpsz4js6jmx.jpg
Jefe's AR
04-14-2016, 11:56
For reference: May 4th, 2012.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/ColoTJ/IMG_0358_zpsehwb8zmd.jpg
Do you even edge, bro?
J/K. It looks great and as green as it should in April IMHO.
Going to get some snow this weekend that will help even more.
RblDiver
04-14-2016, 12:25
Hrm, I just bought my house and have never really known lawn care beyond mowing my parents' place. I know it needs work since some of it's dirt when the fix-and-flipper replaced some concrete or other building bits, and the backyard's uneven (and has some strange grasses from the look of it), and I know I'm wanting to try to fix it a bit nicer. This thread will be handy for that. I might post pics to get input later this weekend.
(Ah the joys of being a new homeowner).
Jefe's AR
04-14-2016, 12:50
Do you even edge, bro?
J/K. It looks great and as green as it should in April IMHO.
Going to get some snow this weekend that will help even more.
Edging comes after aeration. Which, this year, happens on the 30th. [cigar]
Man,
I need some MAJOR help on my lawn. Very patchy in the front. And just dirt in the back. I've tried for two years laying down seed, etc. I'm just not a green thumb. On the bright side, I finally tore down the back deck and figured out how to get the water turned on in the back yard!! The person who had it before me did some jerryigging on the outside of the house with cables and pvc, etc... some of it is pretty comical. Ha.
gnihcraes
04-14-2016, 21:13
I need to mow, it's about 10 inches deep right now. Waiting on the last snowstorm then I can take the plow off the rider and put the mower on.
Don't buy the good grass seed, it grows way too well. [LOL]
Okay sprinkler experts, I'm bumping up this thread since it had a lot of activity last year.
Situation: I have a whole zone of sprinklers that I'm not going to ever use again. I dug up the line so that I can reroute it to my garden.
Problem: The irrigation line in the ground is a 7/8" black pipe. Everything at Home Depot and Lowe's and even online, that I can find, is for 1/2", 3/4", or 1". I bought a bunch of PVC to build my own above ground sprinkler for my garden (3/4" feed line with 1/2" risers and $1 180 degree shrub sprayers). All I need is some way to go from the 7/8" pipe to 3/4" PVC. Any ideas?
Dbc irrigation should be able to get you any parts
Edit. Are you measuring ID or od? Have you actually tried a 1" fitting?
scratchy
03-19-2017, 21:27
Mother's Day. My anti siphon valve has a plastic poppet that breaks if it freezes.
Dbc irrigation should be able to get you any parts
Edit. Are you measuring ID or od? Have you actually tried a 1" fitting?
It says 7/8" on the pipe, and I tried about 20 different fittings at Home Depot, for about an hour.
SideShow Bob
03-19-2017, 21:38
Try a heat gun, carefully heat up the pipe and try to get it to stretch over a 1 in. fitting. Or heat up the pipe and use a heavy duty hose clamp to clamp it onto. A 3/4 in. Fitting.
You may need a little RTV once it cools to make sure it doesn't leak if you go the smaller fitting route.
The barbs on a 1" press on fitting are about the same size as the outer diameter of the pipe. A 3/4" barb fits on the inside with just a hint of resistance. I like the heat gun idea, but since I'm going to be burying this particular junction again, I'm worried about it a little. My old house has other pipes that are no longer standard sized that I've had to work around, so I'm not exactly surprised and I'm sure my sprinkler system is ancient. Some of the existing fittings (of which I have extras, still in the package) have a copper expander that is pressed into the pipe. I'm wondering if I can find some sort of thin rubber hose that I can stretch over the 3/4" male barbed end, then cram the whole thing into the 7/8" pipe, then seal it all down with a clamp. That is more or less how I solved the issue with an odd sized drum trap under a bathtub. I like the ideas you guys are giving me so far.
The barbs on a 1" press on fitting are about the same size as the outer diameter of the pipe. A 3/4" barb fits on the inside with just a hint of resistance. I like the heat gun idea, but since I'm going to be burying this particular junction again, I'm worried about it a little. My old house has other pipes that are no longer standard sized that I've had to work around, so I'm not exactly surprised and I'm sure my sprinkler system is ancient. Some of the existing fittings (of which I have extras, still in the package) have a copper expander that is pressed into the pipe. I'm wondering if I can find some sort of thin rubber hose that I can stretch over the 3/4" male barbed end, then cram the whole thing into the 7/8" pipe, then seal it all down with a clamp. That is more or less how I solved the issue with an odd sized drum trap under a bathtub. I like the ideas you guys are giving me so far.
It would appear the part you seek exists, somewhere out there.
Sprinkler supply shop should have one.
http://www.rnrsupply.com/p6145.html
Thanks, I did find some 1" pipe in my attic, so I can use that for a tiny run, then convert to 3/4" asap, as I assume that changing from larger to smaller is the best bet.
It is a RainJet pipe I believe. All the new in box, but very old, parts I have that came with the house say RainJet. I should have used the brand in my searches.
Mother's Day. My anti siphon valve has a plastic poppet that breaks if it freezes.
They all should by design. This is to save you from having to replace a more expensive part. I usually get my sprinklers on in February & then keep an eye on the weather. If it's going to freeze overnight I turn off the water supply to it & remove the little drain plug (some have a spigot to open) & let the water drain from the anti-siphon into a bucket. Takes about 15 seconds & allows me to water much more frequently. It's far too dry & windy in Colorado to not water as long as most people tend to. My lawn is usually green March 1st & stays mostly weed free. My neighbors constantly marvel at my lawn & ask for tips. Most think I'm feeding them lines of BS with the basic steps I lay out.
I watered my yard by hand yesterday. It sucked. Ive been thinking of firing mine up lately with how dry and warm its been.
Jer, after your tips last time, I am switching fertilizers to mo phosphates and iron. Will add an iron feed in there once the water comes on too. And I seriously need to retime a few sprinklers, some have tilted and turned and water where they should not.
It would appear the part you seek exists, somewhere out there.
Sprinkler supply shop should have one.
http://www.rnrsupply.com/p6145.html
Dbc irrigation locally should have it. We can go by the next time you're up this way if you want? I think they're wholesale only. Also check grainger
Martinjmpr
03-20-2017, 10:33
Have to look at this now that we have a house with a sprinkler system! I've never had one before, at our house in Engle "hood" we just dragged the hose around to water.
I have some really bare spots in my back yard. Usually we wait to water but I think I had better give it a little help to get going before it gets really hot this year.
I watered my yard by hand yesterday. It sucked. Ive been thinking of firing mine up lately with how dry and warm its been.
We're probably going to just break out the hose with an adjustable pattern sprinkler. I'm holding out until later in the year to fire up the sprinklers.
We're probably going to just break out the hose with an adjustable pattern sprinkler. I'm holding out until later in the year to fire up the sprinklers.
Me, too . . . it's tempting to turn them on and get ahead of it. But the one time I did that thinking the worst surely must be over, I found myself scrambling hard during the onset of a pretty cold few days to drain everything back out and praying that I wouldn't have more things break down-system. So I am gun shy about going to that extent too early again.
DBC does have the part I need. Going to swing by the one in Wheat Ridge today and pick a few up.
I went to order a few from the link that Brutal put up, but the shipping was over $11!
And just for Jer.
Neighbor's yard today:
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My yard today.
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When it's dormant you don't have to do much to maintain it. [Coffee]
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