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davsel
04-14-2016, 20:10
Wonder how far this will go.

http://www.newsweek.com/connecticut-judge-dismisses-gun-manufacturers-motion-dismiss-447918


In a major blow to gun companies, a judge in Connecticut on Thursday denied a motion to dismiss a lawsuit brought by 10 families affected by the December 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School against the maker of the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle used in the shooting.

The three gun companies named in the case had argued for the lawsuit to be dismissed under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), or PLCAA for short. It’s a 2005 federal law that provides gun businesses general immunity from civil lawsuits. Connecticut State Judge Barbara Bellis rejected the gun companies’ motion.

ray1970
04-14-2016, 20:13
Sweet. I can't wait to be in a traffic accident. I'm looking forward to suing Ford or Honda or whoever made the vehicle that was driven by the person that hit me.

SA Friday
04-14-2016, 20:18
So tye will go to court. The gun manufacturers will argue PLCAA coverage. The judge will completely disregard the standing law and rule in favor of the suit. The Gun manufacturers will appeal. The appeal will overturn the lower courts clearly illegally made decision. The plaintiff's will then appeal to the next higher court. They will deny appeal and it will then die.

No legal or monetary gain will be had by any plaintiff. The attorneys involved will make a minimum quarter million apiece. The Judges who disregarded the law because they don't give a fuck won't be removed or punished for their blatant disregard of standing law and legal precedent.

Nothing will change....

Gman
04-14-2016, 20:37
This is right out of the Obama playbook of selective enforcement. Ignore the laws you don't like and enforce the ones you do....or simply just make up whatever you want.

Big E3
04-14-2016, 22:18
So tye will go to court. The gun manufacturers will argue PLCAA coverage. The judge will completely disregard the standing law and rule in favor of the suit. The Gun manufacturers will appeal. The appeal will overturn the lower courts clearly illegally made decision. The plaintiff's will then appeal to the next higher court. They will deny appeal and it will then die.

No legal or monetary gain will be had by any plaintiff. The attorneys involved will make a minimum quarter million apiece. The Judges who disregarded the law because they don't give a fuck won't be removed or punished for their blatant disregard of standing law and legal precedent.

Nothing will change....

And the judges get moved to the short list of future demonrats SCOTUS appointees.

Calculated
04-14-2016, 23:02
Sweet. I can't wait to be in a traffic accident. I'm looking forward to suing Ford or Honda or whoever made the vehicle that was driven by the person that hit me.

Exactly.

Maybe, just maybe, the judge knows this is a crock of shit and is allowing this so there is a precedent and nothing like this ever happens again. Maybe....

Ranger353
04-14-2016, 23:27
And the judges get moved to the short list of future demonrats SCOTUS appointees.
There is some logic behind this thought. What better way for an activist judge to get their name highlighted on a position they support.

asmo
04-15-2016, 00:36
This is a good thing, as FoxTrot alluded to.. Just the anti-gunners throwing their money away. Means they aren't spending it on other pursuits. I hope they spend millions on this.

BPTactical
04-15-2016, 05:27
Look at what happened to the families that sued the ammunition seller that sold the Aurora perpetrator his ammunition.
Lawsuit was denied and those families who brought the suit have to pay attorney fees. One even went so far as to whine on TV how it was going to force them to sell their house.

Federal law plainly and clearly prohibits suits such as this.

NFATrustGuy
04-15-2016, 07:06
I predict that one of the Bloombergs of the world will be bankrolling the Plaintiffs. It'll be a relatively inexpensive anti-gun advertising campaign for the likes of Bloomberg. When they lose and even if the Defendants attorney bankrupts the Plaintiffs it'll make a great story of how "guns ruin people's lives."

'Course it's also possible that the suit will expose the hypocrisy and shallow thinking of the anti-gun crowd.

Zombie Steve
04-15-2016, 07:14
Am I crazy - wasn't it a shotgun and pistol used at Sandy Hook? I thought there was an AR in the trunk of the car...

Edit - had it backwards. Shotgun in trunk.

Gman
04-15-2016, 07:26
Am I crazy - wasn't it a shotgun and pistol used at Sandy Hook? I thought there was an AR in the trunk of the car...

Edit - had it backwards. Shotgun in trunk.
The evidence points to a malfunctioning human.

Zombie Steve
04-15-2016, 08:15
Just had my launchers mixed up.

Aloha_Shooter
04-15-2016, 08:24
This is just one more example of how intellectually bankrupt the legal profession has become in the past 2-3 decades. Lawyers and jurists are frequently some of the poorest critical thinkers I've come across (then again, I don't circulate in the entertainment industry) but they have an incredible amount of power. Of course, the flip side is that those lawyers and jurists who are good are incredibly good.

spqrzilla
04-15-2016, 14:04
This ruling is being misreported. Its not on the merits of the PLCAA defense. The court only ruled that it could not be raised with the motion to dismiss. Procedural ruling only.

http://www.pagunblog.com/2016/04/14/connecticut-ruling-not-as-bad-as-first-feared/

RblDiver
04-15-2016, 14:10
My prediction: The judge is allowing it to go forward because they plan on ruling that the PLCAA is unconstitutional on First Amendment grounds. That is, it is trying to prohibit them from practicing their religion of "ALL GUNZ R BAD MKAY!"

Rucker61
04-15-2016, 16:02
They're suing because the "advertising is aimed a trouble young men who become mass shooters", but the mom bought the gun. How many moms have ever committed a mass shooting?