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erock
04-24-2016, 13:13
Does anyone know if RTD will allow transport of guns to the airport if unloaded and locked in a hardside case?

Or does this just go back to C.R.S. 18-9-118 silliness?

18-9-118 specifically mentions "loaded"

Thanks


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TFOGGER
04-24-2016, 14:58
You mean a locked case with custom pool cues? Why would they take issue with that? [Dunno]

Great-Kazoo
04-24-2016, 16:44
Unless you yell it out, no one knows.

ray1970
04-24-2016, 16:54
Eh. Just put some Burton stickers on the outside of the case and nobody will give it a second glance.

Monky
04-24-2016, 17:40
Why do people think sheep magically know what's in a case?


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Great-Kazoo
04-24-2016, 18:20
Why do people think sheep magically know what's in a case?


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Same reason they continually ask, if they can CCW in a place that has NO FIREARMS signs up.

erock
04-24-2016, 18:45
Same reason they continually ask, if they can CCW in a place that has NO FIREARMS signs up.

I think the rub with firearm laws is that being wrong general carries heavy consequences (felony). People continually ask because laws are not necessarily straight forward (gray areas). People on this board are more experienced and have run into similar situations.

Great-Kazoo
04-24-2016, 20:31
I think the rub with firearm laws is that being wrong general carries heavy consequences (felony). People continually ask because laws are not necessarily straight forward (gray areas). People on this board are more experienced and have run into similar situations.


It's not an issue unless one makes it so. There's nothing ILLEGAL about carrying a gun. Be it concealed (on you) in a case etc. Unless one is asked , and volunteers said info, No One Knows.

It's been discussed numerous times, the answers have always been the same. DADT, Concealed means Concealed.
Follow state laws, keep ammo separate from gun (when flying). Keep your concealed gun, Concealed. Keep a long gun Unloaded (car and Case) It's really not that hard to understand. It's also not hard to read state laws (prior) to travelling, not matter what mode of transportation you choose.

Irving
04-24-2016, 20:52
With all due respect, the RTD train to the airport is only days old, and most people on here probably aren't transporting long guns via RTD very often.
I don't think it's silly to want to find out if the train to the airport is treated like a bus, or like a train.

Great-Kazoo
04-24-2016, 21:48
With all due respect, the RTD train to the airport is only days old, and most people on here probably aren't transporting long guns via RTD very often.
I don't think it's silly to want to find out if the train to the airport is treated like a bus, or like a train.

SEARCH FUNCTION.. It goes WAYYY BACK before there were scam artist chain saw borrowing now public knowledge of said former members. I'm also going on record to say A train is a TRAIN. Not a BUS, but a TRAIN.
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/32962-No-Weapons-or-firearms-allowed-on-RTD

You can carry a gun on public transportation just not loaded unless you have a CCW


18-9-118. Firearms, explosives, or incendiary devices in facilities of public transportation.


A person commits a class 6 felony if, without legal authority, he has any [B]loaded firearm or explosive or incendiary device, as defined in section 9-7-103, C.R.S., in his possession in, or carries, brings, or causes to be carried or brought any of such items into, any facility of public transportation, as defined in section 18-9-115 (4).


9-7-103. Definitions.


As used in this article, unless the context otherwise requires:

(1) Repealed.

(1.5) "Department" means the department of labor and employment.

(2) "Division" means the division of oil and public safety in the department of labor and employment.

(3) "Explosive" or "explosive device" means any material or container containing a chemical compound or mixture that is commonly used or intended for the purpose of producing an explosion and that contains any oxidizing and combustible materials or other ingredients in such proportions, quantities, or packing that an ignition by fire, by friction, by concussion, or by detonation of any part of the compound or mixture may cause such a sudden generation of highly heated gases that the resultant gaseous pressures are capable of producing destructive effects on contiguous objects, but shall not mean the components for handloading rifle, pistol, and shotgun ammunition and/or rifle, pistol, and shotgun ammunition.

(4) "Incendiary device" means any flammable material or container containing a flammable liquid or material whose ignition by fire, friction, concussion, detonation, or other method produces destructive effects primarily through combustion rather than explosion.

(5) "Molotov cocktail" means a breakable container containing an explosive or flammable liquid or other substance, having a wick or similar device capable of being ignited, and may be described as either an explosive or incendiary device. A molotov cocktail is not intended to mean a device commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of illumination or other such uses.

Great-Kazoo
04-25-2016, 01:10
I guess what I was trying to say in my last post was. You're not breaking any laws, while on public transportation. There's no need to disclose anything.to anyone outside law enforcement. If one choses to do so. PROVIDING you're following state guidelines, for transportation of said items.

It's ridiculous one worries about whether it's legal, how to transport, etc. firearms. Yet there's probably 1/2 dozen people on the same train, or bus. In possession of weed & paraphernalia. Who clearly reek of it.

FromMyColdDeadHand
04-25-2016, 16:48
One thing that I think works great is a soft ( or could be hard) sided golf bag case.


65085

Put the hardsided gun case in here, throw in your jackets, boots and the ammo boxes (you can't take that much, I forget the weight). Most have wheels, and you are rolling. Frankly, anything this size of bag is going to attract attention from thieves. The golf bag definitely flies under the radar when it comes to lugging around long guns. I've only flown with handguns, but when I travel for the family vacations or take classes and I have ARs and some 22s with me, this is how I 'roll'. I brain farted one year and forgot to put them in the case and all those cool 5.11 bags get odd looks. 'Hiding' them by covering them in trash bags just makes it worse.

You can roll all around an airport or hotel or rental car shuttle and not have to think that some closet Rosie O'donnell is giving you the stink eye. Plus, it is actually convenient.

If you get asked, the people you are visiting set up the tee times, so you don't know where you are playing....

Jefe's AR
04-26-2016, 10:50
and most people on here probably aren't transporting long guns via RTD very often.


My dad, who's ultra conservative now, loves to tell me how he used to get on the city bus with his gun to go hunting back in Upstate New York. 1960ish. His head explodes about everyday with all the nonsense happening now.