Trust me, I'm from the federal government

[funkymonkey1111]

I can make up stuff as i go.....

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/04/fbi_s_flawed_forensics_expert_testimony_hair_analy sis_bite_marks_fingerprints.html

[GilpinGuy]

No, no, no. [Ignore]

[BushMasterBoy]

CBI's new crime lab in Pueblo West is surrounded by marijuana greenhouses. I don't know how they keep the evidence from being contaminated. The smell is enough to get you high!

[OneGuy67]

CBI's new crime lab in Pueblo West is surrounded by marijuana greenhouses. I don't know how they keep the evidence from being contaminated. The smell is enough to get you high!

Their previous building is now a marijuana dispensary.

[Bailey Guns]

They can fake evidence but they can't use a mountain of real evidence to indict Hillary Clinton. What is happening to our country?

[clodhopper]

... ...can't.......

Not "can't". "won't".



Our legal system is not a system of right and wrong. Only what can be proved, what can't, and most importantly, what can a prosecutor win or want to win.

There is no reason our current Justice would want to indict Hill, so the opinion is the risk of loss is too great and it is better to no try.

[Gman]

Maybe that's why it's called a "Judicial System" rather than a "Justice System". [shithitsfan]

[DavieD55]

What is happening to our country?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMQQDQhipYg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUaqFzZLxU

[spqrzilla]

Some of this nonsense comes from all the damn CSI TV shows that have conditioned Americans to think that forensics is "science". Its largely not. Realize that even something as accepted as finger print analysis has no rigorous scientific study supporting its accuracy/reliability.

Also, there is no agency in this country whose reputation so greatly exceeds its actual competence like the FBI.

[izzy]

Some of this nonsense comes from all the damn CSI TV shows that have conditioned Americans to think that forensics is "science". Its largely not. Realize that even something as accepted as finger print analysis has no rigorous scientific study supporting its accuracy/reliability.

Also, there is no agency in this country whose reputation so greatly exceeds its actual competence like the FBI.

I've been trying to tell people this for years. I think the same goes for identifying which firearm a projectile was fired from. The logic behind these tests has never made sense to me at all.

[clodhopper]

I've been trying to tell people this for years. I think the same goes for identifying which firearm a projectile was fired from. The logic behind these tests has never made sense to me at all.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-bullet-casings-20151107-story.html


Maryland scraps gun "fingerprint" database after 15 failed years

[Guylee]

Kinda like how lie detector tests are pretty much worthless, but still a major influence in the criminal justice system.

[cstone]

Kinda like how lie detector tests are pretty much worthless, but still a major influence in the criminal justice system.

Not really. I'm not aware of a single jurisdiction where the polygraph results are admissable in a criminal case. The box is a tool, and like any tool is only as good as the examiner using the tool. I don't personally put much stock in them, but I know some examiners who use the box very effectively to obtain information from people who take them.

The judicial system is not a bias free system of science. Investigation is about uncovering useable evidence for prosecution. Prosecution is all about convincing 12 or more people who couldn't talk their way out of jury duty that the accused is quilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If you buy everything everyone is selling, I have some beach front ocean view property in New Mexico I'd like to sell you.

That said, I've found that often the simplest answer is usually the correct answer. While not always true, it is truer more times than not.

[Irving]

The judicial system is not a bias free system of science. Investigation is about uncovering useable evidence for prosecution. Prosecution is all about convincing 12 or more people who couldn't talk their way out of jury duty that the accused is quilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If you buy everything everyone is selling, I have some beach front ocean view property in New Mexico I'd like to sell you.



Quilty as charged your honor!

http://www.heyquilty.com/images/wysiwyg_img/QuiltyJan2013-cover_200.jpg

[cstone]

Guilty, quilty, it's all ball bearings these days. [ROFL2]