Would anybody still buy and EOtech?

[electronman1729]

With the law suit in all, would anyone still consider an EOtech? I recently bought a 10.5" ar upper and looking to get a reflex sight for it. I really want an EOtech 512 but I'm hesitant to spend the money on one.

End goal s like the picture but with a 512.

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[Jamnanc]

Are you planning on going to Antarctica or hell? If not, your good.

[electronman1729]

Might be headed to hell. Am I screwed?

[TFOGGER]

Not if you re-zero once you get there...

[ChadAmberg]

I've got no problem with it. First, it works best with my vision, I see a crisp dot and not an amorphous blob like pretty much every other red dot I've used. Second, they've already taken several other red dot sights, did the same hot/cold treatment to them as the EOTechs, and got the same POA shifts.

[Alpha2]

I've never had an issue with mine. I don't shoot anymore if it's freezing, or 110 degrees. I think I'll keep it. Now, mind you, if I was REALLY an operator, that would change my situation considerably. But, no...I'm not. I don't even pretend to be. Heck, I'm WAY to old to even consider that kind of problem.

[JohnTRourke]

Once a liar, always a liar
They only admitted it because they got caught.

I wouldn't buy ANYTHING from Eotech. (and it sucks because like most of you I really liked my eotech's)

This is not some POS phone or music player or something, this is actual real life saving equipment and they didn't give a shit that the tests were faked and the thing actually didn't work. People probably died because at the moment they needed it most, their tool didn't work.

Never

[Mazin]

To be honest I just don't like the design or function of it. It took me buy them twice to figure out I really can't use them. For some reason my eyes want to focus on the top plastic bezel instead of the glass when I bring it up. It's probably just me but I do a lot better and have faster sight acquisition with ether an open glass red dot or a circular unit like an Aimpoint.

[Colohunter]

I've used one for the last 6 years on my duty rifle and have never had an issue. That includes qualifying in hot/cold weather throughout the year. After the recall they are no longer authorized for carry, but I will still keep it and throw it on another gun without worry.

[Monky]

I actually do intend to get another one.. I sent mine back simply because I didn't like them, and there were a few issues w/ them. Not thermal shift that I noticed but the buttons seemed to be not responsive. Not really sure the reason, but I wasn't happy with them so they went back. I didn't even have one mounted it was so annoying to work with. Should I have needed it, I would NOT have grabbed a rifle with the EoTech on them. Last thing I wanted to be doing was fumbling with buttons.

That being said.. let's see how they do in a year or so.. I'll keep looking for another optic to put on the one I liked the eotech on.

[Irving]

Once a liar, always a liar
They only admitted it because they got caught.

I wouldn't buy ANYTHING from Eotech. (and it sucks because like most of you I really liked my eotech's)

This is not some POS phone or music player or something, this is actual real life saving equipment and they didn't give a shit that the tests were faked and the thing actually didn't work. People probably died because at the moment they needed it most, their tool didn't work.

Never

Haven't other products been tested to show similar results? If so, what makes EOtech different from those companies?

[newracer]

I heard that the other products tested did not have as much of a shift.

[Dave_L]

Once the prices reflect what happened, I'd probably buy one for a range toy. I'm talking in the $1-150 price range.

[Shooter45]

The current issue that was finally found, has existed for a very long time. We had countless failures again and again due to the huge change in temperature with summer. Stepping out of a Suburban with AC onto a Tarmac that was about 120-140 made them fail. I had to change zero every month and drove me nuts so I changed optics. Let alone from the liability standpoint it was not worth it. In Colorado I've never scene this problem, or in any other state but it's because we don't have massive temperature changes nor are we in those conditions.

Ive always been a fan of low powered scopes for most all of my rifles minus precision ones. I run SWFA 1-6x on my daily AR but ive also started using a Vortex Sparc on an AK and really see potential in that. I'm just a fan of variable magnification to distinguish targets while still being able to engage out to 600yds on 6x. The optic choice meets what the user wants it for and how far they plan on engaging or practicing out to.

But now that EOtech has been to have this problem, every optic manufacture is concerned about their shift. Speaking to every optic maker I could at Shot Show, every one was quiet and said their products had no change. Lies. Every optic is susceptible to shifts in massive condition changes. I spoke with the engineers from Vortex and they tested theirs and witnessed up to 1/2MOA change under conditions. That is extremely accurate for internal shifts based on the elements. Vortex would be hard to beat for the price, quality, and warranty and the product I would recommend whether it was a red dot or magnified scope.

[SA Friday]

Temp shift will happen in all electronic sighting devices. The point is if the shift is the limiting factor for accuracy. M855 ammo has an MOA tolerance around 3 MOA if I'm remembering correctly. It's typically much less than that, but the spec exists (I just can't remember the exact amount). If your sight is shifting from temp 5-7 MOA, your ammo tolerance is basically irrelevant at that point. That's really bad. Mitigating the limiting factor of accuracy to within a controlled specified item ensures its a controllable issue.

Most tube red dots have tested somewhere in the range of a +/- 3/4MOA shift. Trijicon release a letter their MRO tested at an overall 1.5" shift (+/- 3/4 MOA shift in standard deviation terms). Vortex has tested well within this shift. I haven't heard from Aimpoint, but the hundreds of thousands of those on the streets it would have been an issue discussed much like EOtech's wandering zeros have been for years if it was a problem.

We stopped selling EOTech a year before this all blew up at Bowers. After about a half dozen electronics fried from the batteries bouncing and losing contact during recoil, we stopped carrying them. The newer EOTechs just liked to fry their electronics. It was hit or miss and that's too much money to spend on an iffy red dot.

[electronman1729]

Well I bought an XPS2-0 on an impulse as Cabelas, had them for $325 before black Friday.

Hopefully this wont be a mistake.

[Gunner]

Well I bought an XPS2-0 on an impulse as Cabelas, had them for $325 before black Friday.

Hopefully this wont be a mistake.

If it is send me a PM


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