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Aloha_Shooter
05-01-2016, 21:30
Just venting on the fershlugginer FSA types. One of the Kickstarters I'm participating in is printing a limited edition localized (i.e., English language) version of one of the best mangas of the 1980s, Kimagure Orange Road. Everything to do with this manga and the subsequent anime release has been hard to get in the US and most of it is worth more than retail years later specifically because it's so loved but so hard to get.

Anyway, the Kickstarter had a weird strategy. The publisher is combining 3 volumes of the original manga into each omnibus book for a total of 6 omnibuses. He made volume 1 his first goal and each subsequent volume a stretch goal. I don't understand why he structured it that way, I would have told him to set his goal at publishing the whole series and then make special rewards the stretch goals (like fancier covers, special art, etc.). Or perhaps say he was going to run a KS for volume 1 then another KS for volume 2, etc. What ended up happening for half of the KS was that people held off pledging because a lot of them weren't sure the whole set would get published and no one wants to be stuck with half the story.

EDIT: The author of KOR got the publisher commit to publishing all 6 omnibuses and offer a tier to preorder all 6 at one shot instead of ordering volume 1, order volume 2 after meeting the first stretch goal and then ordering additional volumes as additional stretch goals were met. That immediately boosted the KS by $15-18K in the first 24-36 hours. Not too bad for a KS when the original goal for Volume 1 was about $35K and the $120K was the end goal to get all 6 volumes. The KS is now sitting at nearly $110K with 8 days left ...

From the start, the publisher said he was only going to print enough extra copies to cover potential damage and missing shipments. What extras he might end up with would be available in his online store, nowhere else.

Enter whiny millenials. Why isn't the publisher printing extra copies so they can buy volume 1 now and get the other volumes if they decide they like volume 1? Why aren't the prints going to be available on Amazon or their favorite discount online store? Why does it cost extra to mail to Canada, the UK or Australia? Why can't the publisher print a ton of extra copies so they can be sure to order them when cash flow isn't so tight?

Gee Junior, you think your cash flow is tight? Try paying for and sitting on printed inventory while a bunch of self-entitled brats decide whether to forego their daily Starbucks or joints in order to buy some books? Now, granted, each omnibus is $30 ($170 total if you commit to buying all six immediately) but that's really like $10 each for each Japanese volume. I don't know which generation I detest more, the Flower Children or millennials ...

I wish someone would invent the damned Shipstone from Heinlein's novels so I could get the heck off this planet and into a frontier culture where whiners die (usually from their own ineptitude, not because of someone else's malice).

I know, I know, probably scores a 4 out of 10 on the rant scale but typing this out probably reduced my BP by 10-20 points ...


[Coffee]

brutal
05-01-2016, 21:40
tl;dr

Is this about porn?

Irving
05-01-2016, 22:49
tl;dr

Is this about porn?

Hentai for certain.


Aloha, you'll have to help explain that if the ones who purchase the entire 6 volumes die of a botched auto erotic asphyxiation after only being able to enjoy volume 1, is just part of the risk when dealing with tentacle porn.

Great-Kazoo
05-01-2016, 23:31
I Grok and support your feelings and ANGER


Start another fundraiser. Informing the publisher.IF HE CAVES to them. You'll start a buy back #GFM to get every one he publishes off the market.

Ah Pook
05-02-2016, 00:18
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/440oolong.jpg

Hummer
05-02-2016, 07:19
Hentai Haole?


Sounds like a new tag line. [Coffee]

Jefe's AR
05-02-2016, 08:51
Supported a Kickstarter last year. Was supposed to get item in August/Sept. Still waiting.

roberth
05-02-2016, 09:10
I thought I knew what "manga" was but I had to look it up to make sure.

What kind of tard doesn't realize that shipping isn't free and that the farther away a person is from the source the more the shipping will cost. Don't people understand that "free shipping" on eBay and Amazon means the shipping costs have been factored in to the price of the item.

Aloha_Shooter
05-02-2016, 14:32
tl;dr

Is this about porn?

Millenials. <sigh> In my generation, it was RTFM but we had attention spans longer than 140 characters ... </sarcasm>

I figured maybe 20% on this board would get the gist of it but it doesn't matter, I vented and my blood pressure is back to normal.

Canadians, Aussies, and others with postal systems that are subsidized by their governments (more so than the US postal system anyway) are the ones who don't understand why international shipping costs more. FSA types don't seem to understand why someone who is essentially doing a small production run won't just do hundreds or thousands more and then sit on them so the little twerps can buy copies (at discount!) when their cash flow supports it.

.. and no ... no porn for you (at least, not from KOR) ...

roberth
05-02-2016, 16:07
Millenials. <sigh> In my generation, it was RTFM but we had attention spans longer than 140 characters ... </sarcasm>

I figured maybe 20% on this board would get the gist of it but it doesn't matter, I vented and my blood pressure is back to normal.

Canadians, Aussies, and others with postal systems that are subsidized by their governments (more so than the US postal system anyway) are the ones who don't understand why international shipping costs more. FSA types don't seem to understand why someone who is essentially doing a small production run won't just do hundreds or thousands more and then sit on them so the little twerps can buy copies (at discount!) when their cash flow supports it.

.. and no ... no porn for you (at least, not from KOR) ...

...and they never will understand. You, the producer, just need to suck it up and give them what they want at the price they want regardless of costs or profit. [Poke] :)

Aloha_Shooter
05-02-2016, 16:23
Thank God/Allah/Jehovah/Manitou/The Great Bird of the Galaxy/Whatever I don't sell anything, manufacture anything to sell, advertise anything to sell, ready anything to sell, advertise anything to sell, etc.

Not_A_Llama
05-02-2016, 19:49
http://i.imgur.com/Zm6srbF.png

Circuits
05-02-2016, 23:31
Smart business model says to produce first run plus overage, to handle first run, and other runs, plus overage, to sustain initial full run orders at full-order price and post-run distribution.

The hooked wannabes will have product at a premium, without overprinting the market initially, and preserving exclusivitiy against bargain last-minute wannabe adopters.

Great-Kazoo
05-03-2016, 23:26
Man,ga go ta the store ta get uh urban dictionary 2 understand half dis thread.

i tried going to the store. but my kar ma ran over my dog ma