View Full Version : Drudge is reporting that Ted Cruz is outta there
rockhound
05-03-2016, 18:44
Drudge reports Ted Cruz will drop out according to his manager.
Saw the same. I liked Cruz, but I'm happy to see The Donald come in and stir up a ton of shit. I hope he has liberals shaking.
newracer
05-03-2016, 19:37
The only thing I like about Trump is that liberals hate him.
theGinsue
05-03-2016, 20:12
What happened to the whole "I'm in it until the end" thing he was espousing this weekend (even yesterday too, I believe)? I guess some of those folks with the "The End Is Near" signs were right after all.
He was fairly gracious in his final sermon.
Trump also gave a gracious victory speech.
What happened to the whole "I'm in it until the end" thing he was espousing this weekend (even yesterday too, I believe)? I guess some of those folks with the "The End Is Near" signs were right after all.
Cruz spoke too soon; at least Trump isn't an total POS like Klinton.
Part of me still thinks Joe Biden will be the communists nominee.
Is Kasich still in? Or is that guy still holding out for a contested convention and praying that he will be the "anointed one"
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2016, 21:12
Doesn't matter I'm in for the WWE smack down the debates are going to turn in to.
I'm in for $20... Trump drops an easy 1-3 F bombs his 1st tumble with pants suit patty .
HILLARY YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR.......... WAR ON WOMAN BLEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPP BLEEPPPPPPPPPPP
MARRIED TO BILL BLEPPPPP YOU HAVE THE BLEEPPPP NERVE.
TEAMRICO
05-03-2016, 21:16
Trump is gonna have to fight off Kasich....now it's ON like Donkey Kong!
The jackwagons running the Republican party machine have nobody to blame but themselves.
Tor Larson
05-03-2016, 21:28
Just my tin foil hat thoughts but...
What are the odds that Dems and Repubs get together in some back room and something happens to Trump before the election: physical or scandal. Think both sides dont like Trump so... sky is the limit.
Aloha_Shooter
05-03-2016, 21:34
Sorry to see the last Constitutionalist in the race drop out but he did say he was as long as he saw a potential path to victory. Losing Indiana -- especially by the margin he did -- closed off any possible path. Suspending his campaign now offers a chance to pull the non-Democrats back together. Watching him try to talk to the ignoramus Trump voter this morning was aggravating but it is critical the GOP pull its collective shit together and win this one -- Cruz proved this afternoon that he's thinking about the nation rather than himself.
Has anyone bothered to check on Beck?
hollohas
05-03-2016, 21:58
Sorry to see the last Constitutionalist in the race drop out but he did say he was as long as he saw a potential path to victory. Losing Indiana -- especially by the margin he did -- closed off any possible path. Suspending his campaign now offers a chance to pull the non-Democrats back together. Watching him try to talk to the ignoramus Trump voter this morning was aggravating but it is critical the GOP pull its collective shit together and win this one -- Cruz proved this afternoon that he's thinking about the nation rather than himself.
Well said and spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9QLJQ77r0
Poor Stifler's Aunt. Can't catch a break.
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2016, 22:36
The jackwagons running the Republican party machine have nobody to blame but themselves.
100% spot on
Just my tin foil hat thoughts but...
What are the odds that Dems and Repubs get together in some back room and something happens to Trump before the election: physical or scandal. Think both sides dont like Trump so... sky is the limit.
Only a fool would believe that. FUCK Both parties, ESPECIALLY the R's.
Time after time they folded like a cheap suit to anything Obama sent to them for passage. They as politicians have no one to blame but them self.
AS for the D's. The media and DNC are so far in the tank for HRC they're like a proctologist in an elevator with no lights or power.
Example: ANYONE hear or read about the $10K raised at a music fund raiser for Bernie, in denver last week? Of course not. How much does anyone hear about the Bern? Outside the standard Bernie has no chance, He's done etc.
Knowing a few serious Bernie supporters. Their dedication to him, sever dislike for HRC, to the point of a major write in vote in Nov for Bernie.
Not to mention his Likability factor over HRC. IMO The Bern Is the real sleeper here.
Bottom line... Trump pulls off one the most stunning upsets in American history. OR the country lowers the flag for the last time.
I was mulling this whole mess over in my head yesterday. I was trying to remember which branch of government the 'department of propaganda' belonged to.
This country is so far away from how it was designed and mandated that government was to function, I see no clear path back.
Scanker19
05-04-2016, 09:08
It's curious as to why and so suddenly he dropped. Like he had prior knowledge to something that was coming. Scandals, or otherwise.
RblDiver
05-04-2016, 09:11
Guess I'm voting third party or doing write-in. I meant it when I said I'm a #NeverTrump.
Guess I'm voting third party or doing write-in. I meant it when I said I'm a #NeverTrump.
So...you're voting for Hillary.
Guess I'm voting third party or doing write-in. I meant it when I said I'm a #NeverTrump.
Isn't that special.
That'll show 'em!
It's curious as to why and so suddenly he dropped. Like he had prior knowledge to something that was coming. Scandals, or otherwise.
[tinhat]
Some are wondering if there may be truth in the Enquirer article linking papa Cruz to Lee Harvey - which Trump recently mentioned.
RblDiver
05-04-2016, 10:00
So...you're voting for Hillary.
Ask yourself this: If the vote was a tie between Hillary and Trump, and I was the deciding vote: I vote third party.
They're still tied.
So, no, I'm not voting Hillary. Thanks for that flawed view, try again.
RblDiver
05-04-2016, 10:01
Isn't that special.
That'll show 'em!
This upcoming vote is going to be between an abortion-loving, gun-hating, socialized medicine-supporting Democrat, and Hillary.
No thanks.
HoneyBadger
05-04-2016, 11:33
It's curious as to why and so suddenly he dropped. Like he had prior knowledge to something that was coming. Scandals, or otherwise.
This was my thought as well... It seemed like a very sudden and unexpected 180* turn.
So...you're voting for Hillary.
Principle over party. If you don't stand on principles, you'll fall for anything... and you're going to fall hard.
This country is so far away from how it was designed and mandated that government was to function, I see no clear path back.
Agreed.
Perot delivered 8 years to Clinton...maybe Bernie delivers the POTUS to Trump in the same way.
Even though I agree with Cruz more than any presidential candidate in the past 20 years, he brought about his own defeat by how he explained his positions on Abortion and Same-sex marriage.
I dont think its sudden, he was already mathematically unable to reach 1237 or whatever it was delegates without convention. Losing Indiana so bad before heading into trump favorable states makes it clear he'd be so far behind if nominated in the convention the voting base would go apeshit. Cruzites in Colorado or not.
If you think he and hillary are equal, I suggest you revisit the SJW thread. Abortion law isnt changing anytime soon, trump isnt changing any of that. Hillary making the retard sjw base happy doing some anti gun shit is pretty safe bet. Yes I get why Trump is not a stellar choice for most of you, he isn't for me either but it's the best we got.
Voting 3rd party made sense if say bernie/trump had been independant and that's your thing as they did cause waves. But doing so Hill vs Trump isn't "showing" the GOP anything. They fought him tooth and nail.
Scanker19
05-04-2016, 13:40
It's curious as to why and so suddenly he dropped. Like he had prior knowledge to something that was coming. Scandals, or otherwise.
Dude that's what I'm talking about. And now that Kaishch quit in the same day. That's a bit weird. I hope trumps isn't a Trojan horse candidate
unless he paid them off..
The jackwagons running the Republican party machine have nobody to blame but themselves.
BURN IT TO THE GROUND!!!
I am so loving this. GO TRUMP! and I can not stand The Donald.
newracer
05-04-2016, 14:06
Dude that's what I'm talking about. And now that Kaishch quit in the same day. That's a bit weird. I hope trumps isn't a Trojan horse candidate
unless he paid them off..
It is not that weird, the results from yesterday's voting sealed the deal.
RblDiver
05-04-2016, 14:07
Voting 3rd party made sense if say bernie/trump had been independant and that's your thing as they did cause waves. But doing so Hill vs Trump isn't "showing" the GOP anything. They fought him tooth and nail.
I'm not doing third-party to show the "GOP" (as in, the GOPe). I'm doing it to "show" the Trump supporters that I value principle. Many Trumpets talk about having to hold their nose for Romney et al, and claim they don't want to do that again. Well, me neither, so I refuse to vote for Trump.
Martinjmpr
05-04-2016, 15:07
Knowing a few serious Bernie supporters. Their dedication to him, sever dislike for HRC, to the point of a major write in vote in Nov for Bernie.
Not to mention his Likability factor over HRC. IMO The Bern Is the real sleeper here.
Won't happen for one simple reason: Democrats understand how the system works, Republicans don't. Even the most die-hard, ranting, raving, spitting Bernie supporters are going to calm down and vote Hillary on election day.
Oh, there will be a few loudmouth cranks who will write in Bernie but all the Hillary campaign has to do is point out to them that it was the splitters voting for Nader that got Bush elected twice and the vast majority of the D's will fall into line and vote for Hillary. That's why she'll be our next president. [shithitsfan]
The campaign to bring the young turks of the Democratic party back into the fold has already begun. I don't take write-in or third party voters seriously. Political analyst don't take them any more seriously than registered voters who don't vote. Regardless of how I want the world to be, I am reminded that this is the world that I live in. The GOP and the DNC have just about decided who they will put on the ballot come November. Any choice other than one of those two people is essentially a non-factor in choosing the next President.
Not a sentiment I agree with, but for those who pay attention, this is the type of thing the DNC and progressives are currently working on.
#VoteBlueNoMatterWho
https://www.good.is/articles/vote-blue-no-matter-who
Aloha_Shooter
05-04-2016, 18:36
It's curious as to why and so suddenly he dropped. Like he had prior knowledge to something that was coming. Scandals, or otherwise.
It's neither curious nor sudden. He said he was in the race as long as he had a path to victory. Getting stomped as he did in Indiana closed even tough but theoretically possible path he had. Suspending the campaign lets him stop expenditures and refocus his efforts. I'm going to support Trump in the general but I am amazed at how many people buy the ludicrous BS Trump peddles about Cruz being ineligible or having ties to LHO or anything else.
This upcoming vote is going to be between an abortion-loving, gun-hating, socialized medicine-supporting Democrat, and Hillary.
No thanks.
Not sure who you're writing about. None of what you mention is factually accurate in regards to Trump. Where did you get these rumor's from?
hollohas
05-04-2016, 19:03
Not sure who you're writing about. None of what you mention is factually accurate in regards to Trump. Where did you get these rumor's from?
I dont know about abortion, but the other two are accurate. He's on record stating both that he agreed with the AWB and that he would fix bama care with some sort of government provided program.
I dont know about abortion, but the other two are accurate. He's on record stating both that he agreed with the AWB and that he would fix bama care with some sort of government provided program.
That's not what his published policy positions state: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
Strange.
hollohas
05-04-2016, 19:16
That's not what his published policy positions state: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
Strange.
Do you seriously buy that or are you just being facetious? When a person has a decades long history of one opinion on a subject and then changes his opinion at the very same time he's trying to gain the support of a certain demographic, it's pretty clear those new opinions are complete and total BS.
The healthcare thing isn't even old. It was only a couple months ago that he publicly said he'd replace bama care with another government program.
A man's past actions and words define his character, not some "policy position" posted on a website.
I dont know about abortion, but the other two are accurate. He's on record stating both that he agreed with the AWB and that he would fix bama care with some sort of government provided program.
The problem with Trump supporters is that they fail time and time again to research the history of their candidate.
In his 2000 book “The America We Deserve” Trump seemed to take a different stance.
"I generally oppose gun control (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/gun-control.htm), but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," he said. "With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-reverses-stance-assault-weapons-policy-paper/story?id=33867505
No one can say with any certainty which direction Trump will go on health/insurance.
Scott Pelley: Universal health care?
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of how?
Donald Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/
The most unpopular part of Obamacare now has a champion in the Republican presidential field. Via the Right Scoop, Donald Trump was asked (http://therightscoop.com/donald-trump-really-said-this-i-like-the-obamacare-mandate/) on Thursday night by CNN's Anderson Cooper, "If…there's no mandate for everybody to have insurance, what's to—why would an insurance company not have a preexisting—insure somebody with a preexisting condition?" Trump replied (http://therightscoop.com/donald-trump-really-said-this-i-like-the-obamacare-mandate/), "Well, I like the mandate. Okay, so here's where I'm a little bit different. I don't want people dying on the streets. And I say this all the time."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-i-like-obamacares-individual-mandate/article/2001172
Trump’s new health reform plan is a marked departure from what he has supported in the past. Within the last year, he’s been an advocate (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/) of government-run single-payer healthcare, a champion (http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-i-like-obamacares-individual-mandate/article/2001172) of Obamacare’s individual mandate, and now apparently a supporter of market-based reform.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2016/03/07/on-paper-trump-embraces-an-obamacare-replacement/#15f9de12e47f
Do you seriously buy that or are you just being facetious? When a person has a decades long history of one opinion on a subject and then changes his opinion at the very same time he's trying to gain the support of a certain demographic, it's pretty clear those new opinions are complete and total BS.
The healthcare thing isn't even old. It was only a couple months ago that he publicly said he'd replace bama care with another government program.
A man's past actions and words define his character, not some "policy position" posted on a website.
If you are suggesting a man maintains the same political ideas and positions throughout his entire life, I must disagree.
I know that I have certainly not.
At this point, Trump is the Republican nominee, and continuing to bash him on a public forum is confusing.
Aloha_Shooter
05-04-2016, 19:44
Not sure who you're writing about. None of what you mention is factually accurate in regards to Trump. Where did you get these rumor's from?
Mmmm ... everything he posted is based on documented positions from Trump (unlike most of the allegations laid against Cruz, Rubio, Carson, etc.). Trump may have had a Road to Damascus conversion but he has indeed supported Obamacare, abortion on demand, and gun control -- and NOW he's willing to consider raising the minimum wage (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-raise-minimum/2016/05/04/id/727284/). I'll support him to avoid Hillary or Bernie but he is NOT conservative.
The idea that Trump is a sleeper doesn't make sense because the dirty money of the entire Democratic Party AND the entire GOP put together couldn't touch the amount of money to be made throughout the entire world with the exclusive access of the POTUS.
hollohas
05-04-2016, 19:57
If you are suggesting a man maintains the same political ideas and positions throughout his entire life, I must disagree.
I know that I have certainly not.
At this point, Trump is the Republican nominee, and continuing to bash him on a public forum is confusing.
Being truthful about a candidate is not bashing, it's discourse. I have said many times Trump is better than Hillary. Identifying his flaws is not going to change that nor alter the course of the election. I will vote for him but I won't ignore the head-in-the-sand BS spouted by folks who idolize the guy. My interest is not just in this election, but engaging people in debate regarding the principles, ideology and ideals that IMO are ruining this country and likewise which can fix it.
For the next 4 years, Trump is better than HRC and that's what matter now. However, I'm invested in much more than 4 years and I will never stop being vocal when the opportunity develops to point out ignoranace on the issues of small government and personal liberty.
Great-Kazoo
05-04-2016, 20:00
Can't this be blended in with the Trump thread in L&P.
WE ALL KNOW Cruz is out.
As Martinjmpr stated previously, the Dems know how elections work.
It is unfortunate that the Republicans refuse to learn.
hollohas
05-04-2016, 20:13
The Republicans that say they will vote for HRC are the problem. As of yet, no one here has said that. Most here will get on the boat and vote to beat her. Discussing flaws and ideals is never a bad thing.
Remeber, the lefties are split too. And yet, no one is out there saying, "oh man, the liberals better get together and fall in line. It's unfortunate they all can't just agree." Even though they are split, we don't question their cohesiveness.
I am on board. I may point out the dumb shit my team does, but I will always try to win.
I will try to wait until after the election before publicly airing my many disagreements with the Republican candidate.
One step at a time.
HoneyBadger
05-04-2016, 21:14
I will try to wait until after the election before publicly airing my many disagreements with the Republican candidate.
One step at a time.
Oh that makes perfect sense! Wait until the person has unquestionable authority before criticizing them. What a genius plan. [Shake]
Oh that makes perfect sense! Wait until the person has unquestionable authority before criticizing them. What a genius plan. [Shake]
Thus proving the point of post #47.
[facepalm]
HoneyBadger
05-04-2016, 21:43
EXACTLY! Finally we agree! Your blind devotion to "the party" instead of real principles is why you'll never convince me or anyone else to vote for Trump. When will you learn? C'mon, the Democrats have already figured it out...
HoneyBadger
05-04-2016, 21:45
I'd rather vote for Liberty and lose than vote for tyranny and win.
...Yes, let that sink in for a bit.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.