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Zundfolge
05-13-2016, 13:44
My dad told me that when he was in the Jungles of Vietnam that he carried a full auto shotgun.

I always assumed he was blowing smoke (which he did often) and never believed his story.

Then today I see this:


http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/13124647_846971765431528_1322020352442341182_n.jpg

Remington 7188 Full Auto Shotgun (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/05/13/potd-remington-7188-full-auto-shotgun/)



So I guess he was telling the truth about that one (he also told me that first generation M16 stocks had Mattel logos stamped in them so he's not 100% off the hook).

Sawin
05-13-2016, 13:47
I heard the original grips were made by Mattel...

Edit: snopes says it's false

roberth
05-13-2016, 14:21
Now I need a Rem 7188.


Remington 7188/7180
Notes: First developed specifically for use by US Navy SEALs in Vietnam, the first example of the Remington 7188, the Mk 1, appeared in 1967, and was perhaps the most destructive close combat weapon produced to that date. Developed from the Remington 1100, the Model 7188 was a fully-automatic version of that weapon, with some other modifications requested by the SEALs. Though these weapons were never large in number, the Mk 1 version was the most common of them; it had a perforated barrel shroud, extended tubular magazine, bayonet mount, and adjustable rifle sights. The Mk 2 was identical, but used a ventilated barrel rib and front bead sight of a standard shotgun. The Mk 3 was also identical to the Mk 1 but did not have the perforated barrel shroud. The Mk 4 was a Mk 3 with standard shotgun-style sights. The Mk 5 was also similar to the Mk 1, but did not have an extended magazine, and also did not have the perforated barrel shroud. The Mk 6 was identical to the Mk 5, but had standard shotgun-style sights.

While the SEALs liked the fantastic destructive power of the Model 7188 (especially with the custom loads they tended to use), they found the Model 7188 had one big problem: it was highly-sensitive to dirt and fouling, and this made it quite unsuited for general use in Vietnam. In addition, the enormous recoil of a full-auto burst (even at the low cyclic rate of the Model 7188) was difficult to control, and even with an extended magazine, the ammunition supply was thought to be too small by many SEALs. There were never more than a couple of dozen of each Mark of the Model 7188 made, and they were withdrawn from service within a few years, a weapon experiment that ultimately failed. Some were converted back to semiautomatic fire; though this essentially turned them back into Remington 1100s (albeit, with unique markings and an unusual selector lever), they were designated Model 7180s.

http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=253112

sellersm
05-13-2016, 15:36
I'd heard both stories as well and I believed them both cuz I trusted the people telling me. That's a very cool pic!

rondog
05-13-2016, 19:24
I've heard about the Mattel logo inside the M16 stocks too. The F/A shotgun is a new one though. Probably rare as tits on a bowling ball.

Walker2970
05-13-2016, 22:29
I've heard about the Mattel logo inside the M16 stocks too. The F/A shotgun is a new one though. Probably rare as tits on a bowling ball.
65428 not so rare here are 4 together

Jefe's AR
05-14-2016, 09:15
I'd think you'd spend A LOT of time reloading rather than shooting an auto shot gun. Seems to me that a semi makes much more sense, since it can hold what looks to be 7 or 8 rounds in the tube, maybe.

Jefe's AR
05-14-2016, 09:16
But cool none the less.[UZI]

SA Friday
05-14-2016, 10:39
The Mattel thing is BS. The auto shotgun is not.

Bmac
05-14-2016, 11:30
How much do you think one of those would cost if you could find for sale?

.455_Hunter
05-14-2016, 12:55
I did a quick YouTube search but did not find anything.

Anybody have a link to a video of one firing?

KS63
05-14-2016, 15:18
She's a beauty!

Zundfolge
05-14-2016, 21:49
How much do you think one of those would cost if you could find for sale?

I'm going to guess that an NFA registered one is rarer than hens teeth ... they never sold these on the commercial market and I don't know if the US Military sold that many registered NFA weapons to the general public. Add to that the fact that even as FA guns go there weren't very many of them made.

I think I'd rather just have an 1100 dressed up to look like one and a new Porsche (which would still probably be cheaper than this gun)

wctriumph
05-15-2016, 17:47
That is one awesome firearm! I'll need two, just because.