Beware the of the back ground checks

[trlcavscout]

So two people i know who have purchased multiple guns in the past with no problems have had issues lately doing BGC's. One guy was actually arrested and hauled off in front of his 9 year old daughter recently, apparently a warrant appeared from an unpaid parking ticket in Florida from like 1987. He paid the ticket and was released and went and purchased the gun an hour later. Ok so crappy deal but hey he had an unpaid ticket he had forgot about apparently. So bad on him but to show up all the sudden after all these years sucks. The other guy is a coworker who traded in a legally purchased handgun he had bought last year at the same dealer for a different handgun, he was given the not passed we will take our sweet ass 30 days to tell you why. So after 29 days he receives a letter saying he was denied and he was unable to be in posession of any firearms due to an incident that occured in 1989 when he was 15. So the gun shop has his trade in, the new gun and the cash and he has to hire an attorney to fix the issue before he can do anything.

Moral of the story i guess is that stuff comes back to bite you in the ass that you forgot about or thought was a non issue. My question is did they change something in the BGC procedure? I was talking to a guy at a pawn shop last week while looking at a revolver and he mentioned that more people are getting denied redeeming loans on guns as well. I dont know, i passed one two weeks ago so i guess my skeletons havent surfaced yet!

[Rucker61]

Good luck with the appeals process, too.

[newracer]

I call BS in both cases.


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[gnihcraes]

I'm not sure what changed, but a co-worker was denied and had to go through the appeals process. Turns out that CBI was just mis-reading the documentation on an old assault case that was terminated/dismissed. (bar fight) :)

[trlcavscout]

I'm not sure what changed, but a co-worker was denied and had to go through the appeals process. Turns out that CBI was just mis-reading the documentation on an old assault case that was terminated/dismissed. (bar fight) :)

Do you have any idea how he went about it? Did he get an attorney? My coworker was looking for some info and it doesnt seem cheap to het an attorney to do it. I have never gone through it so i have no idea.

[ray1970]

I call BS in both cases.


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I was thinking that but wanted to see how this thread played out before I threw the B.S. flag.

[davsel]

Could be that more state databases are getting interconnected.

[trlcavscout]

I was thinking that but wanted to see how this thread played out before I threw the B.S. flag.

No BS. I have known the coworker for 9 years, hunted with him etc. We both do background checks every year for The city of Greeley to do home alarm installs. And the gun shop is owned by a friend and former coworker. I have personally seen him buy 2 or 3 guns over the years.

[trlcavscout]

Could be that more state databases are getting interconnected.

Could be. The coworkers "offense" occured in Greeley where he has lived his whole life though.

[newracer]

I still call BS. What type of parking ticket would make someone ineligible to buy a gun? And if that was true there is no way to get it cleared up in an hour. As for the second I'd think you'd remember something severe enough to make you ineligible.

[MrPrena]

Parking tickets. Usually tax return time, State send you a letter why I am getting $25 return out of $100 I am expecting. State gives you the full description and city info where and which ticket. YOu call the city, and they tell you what ticket #, when and where in detail.

Parking ticket from 1987..... [panic]

[Big E3]

I didn't have any issues today, passed BGC in something like 10 minutes.

[hurley842002]

I didn't have any issues today, passed BGC in something like 10 minutes.

I'm willing to bet you don't have any skeletons either, that seems to be the common theme in the OP.

[MarkCO]

It happens. Old records get digitized and incorrectly coded. In most cases that there is an error, while annoying, it gets fixed with no lawyer needed.

[.455_Hunter]

Not BS...

I was in a well known LGS when a customer was arrested on a warrant for illegal fishing. CBI called the shop and had him keep the guy waiting until LEO arrived. Matter was resolved and he finished his purchase process later that day.

[Great-Kazoo]

I still call BS. What type of parking ticket would make someone ineligible to buy a gun? And if that was true there is no way to get it cleared up in an hour. As for the second I'd think you'd remember something severe enough to make you ineligible.


Not directly related to your reply, just a generalization of how one can be denied, down the road.

I know 3 people who originally lived in Ill. Buying guns here no issue. Applied for a CCW, Problems. it seems some counties in Il do not separate juvie and misdemeanor records from felony's.

One guy who was denied , upon contacting X Il. county. Turns out he has a speeding ticket that resulted in arrest (drag racing) back in 73. For some reason the cty Never removed the offense from their records. Thus showing said applicant was charged with a crime (never noted what charge) and case was never closed.
Since the DA decided to drop all charges if he stayed out of trouble till he turned 18. Once said county dismissed the case and sent paperwork showing case was not a felony, that happened back in 73, his permit was approved.

Another guy received a D&D (age 19) another stay out of trouble deals. An easy dozen guns purchased in CO, passing BGC. Goes for his permit in Larimer cty,. same shit. He too ended up with permit after talking to then sheriff Alderden.

Yeah sounds weird, but there are some folks who can get screwed once an agency starts digging.

[Bailey Guns]

Almost forgot about background checks

[Coffee]

[spqrzilla]

From time to time, state court systems move to a new records management system. Records get reconverted and errors get introduced. The most common reason for a false denial is that an arrest or citation has no matching disposition.

[Skip]

From time to time, state court systems move to a new records management system. Records get reconverted and errors get introduced. The most common reason for a false denial is that an arrest or citation has no matching disposition.

Even if the arrest is for an offense that doesn't disqualify under 4473 rules?

In my mind there should be a penalty for errors in reporting that deny people rights. If "the system" inadvertently violates the Fourth Amendment, there are consequences to keep the system honest.

[MrPrena]

Around 2010 +/-, there was a guy who went to Firing Line to purchase FNX40, and he ended up handcuffed for unpaid ticket or some sort. I don't think it was just simple parking ticket. If I recall, it was more of traffic violation. Yes, he picked it up the next day.

[Wulf202]

I have heard of several of these also

[gnihcraes]

forgot, a friend was denied because her registered car had unpaid tickets. Daughter had been driving it for some time and accrued the tickets. I don't know what the limit is to get it flagged, but I'd figure it had to be $200+ late fees/interest.

Once they paid the fees, all was cleared up pretty quickly.

I think these types of things stem from the laws related to unpaid child support, court fines and such to get your license renewed. Everything is basically the same now. Unpaid fees, denied.

[Limited GM]

Because of something he did when he was 15?

[ChunkyMonkey]

It's very common actually. Meanwhile the 4% denial rate is championed by the gun grabbers as the proof that it's working. CO is 3rd highest in the US as far as denial rate. But 60% of these denials are overturned due to erroneous, balance satisfaction, etc.

[kidicarus13]

Just another broken system promoted with misrepresented stats.

[hurley842002]

Just another broken system promoted with misrepresented stats.

Yup

[Jefe's AR]

So does the State deny my entrance to church on Sunday when I have outstanding speeding tickets? Can I not vote until those are paid? Would I not have a right to counsel until I cleared this up?

[Kraven251]

do not miss paying any ticket in Denver, they will screw up your life for fun...yes it is your responsibility to pay it, but they flag your ass all over the place, including potentially jacking up security clearances with their crap, watched it happen or I would have never believed a simple you didn't feed a meter ticket could do that, but it can if you have the right keyboard commando at the helm