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Bitter Clinger
05-25-2016, 03:26
I can not copy and paste for some reason. Sorry. Read it though.

http://www.1mmagc.org/1mmagc-blog/defensive-gun-use-saved-us

**NOTE: This was submitted to us by someone who wishes to remain anonymous, due to what they have shared. However, they felt it was important to do so. Also, there are details, that may be disturbing to some readers.**

Let me start this off by stating some facts about what I’m going to share with you. I have purposely not included any links, sites, or potentially traceable facts from what your about to read, but for all intents and purposes the following account of what happened will be as accurate as possible. I have done this strictly to protect my family’s identities, after reading about what happened to me and my family hopefully you will understand why.

I know that a lot of you will dismiss this as propaganda or fiction after reading it, and even more of you won’t want to believe that anything like this could ever happen except for in a movie or a nightmare, and that’s fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and some things are just too hard to digest. I don’t even want to believe it or accept it sometimes, but that doesn’t stop it from haunting my thoughts, memories, and my nightmares. Even though this happened several years ago it is as fresh in my mind as if it happened yesterday. If any part of what your about to read disturbs you I am truly sorry.


I suffer from severe insomnia; I have ever since about high school, so I’m up during the night quite often and most of the time I lay on the couch so I won’t keep my wife awake. This night was no different, I found myself awake and unable to fall back sleep at about 3am, so I went out to the living room to quietly watch TV, being careful not to wake my wife who was three months pregnant, and my two daughters, ages 5 and 7. As I reached for the TV remote I thought that I heard voices or something odd outside my living room window, so as anyone would do I peeked out through the drapes to see if I was just hearing things, unfortunately I wasn’t. There were three people outside my house, and since I lived in a rural area I felt that something was terribly wrong. I grabbed the phone to dial 911 as I went to grab my pistol and wake my wife, the phone lines must have been cut because there was no dial tone and my cellphone was in my work truck. My heart sank and I felt helpless as I realized something terrible was about to happen and I couldn’t even call for help.

I quickly handed my wife the shotgun and had her barricade herself in our daughter’s room just as they started trying to kick in the front door. I crouched in the hall with my pistol and yelled for them to stay out of my house and that I had a gun, but it had no effect, it did not stop them, it had only alerted them to my general location in the house. After they gained entry they proceeded directly towards me, as soon as I saw someone round the corner entering into the hall I started shooting. Somehow I was able to strike two of them in the chest before a bullet struck me in the left shoulder. I hastily emptied the rest of magazine only to wound the third, but it was enough to make him miss with his remaining shots and flee. The pause had only lasted a second or two at most when I remember hearing shots from behind me just before I lost consciousness. A fourth person had come in the sliding glass door in the rear of the house during the shooting and had shot me three times in the back, as he attempted to kick in the door to my daughters room my wife shot through the door killing him instantly. After the first shots had been fired our closest neighbors had woke and had called 911, it took almost 25 minutes after everything was over for the state police to arrive, and almost 30 minutes for the medivac to arrive to save my life. Thirty minutes of my wife and two girls holding me thinking I was going to die. Thirty minutes of not knowing if it was over yet.

I spent six months in the hospital, four surgeries, and almost a year learning to walk again. My two girls have had years of therapy and still to this day have night terrors. My wife and I now still have a hard time sleeping, but are doing fine with our now three girls.


The man who fled wounded was arrested later that night in the hospital and upon further investigation was shown to be somewhat of a high ranking gang affiliate that was part of an ongoing investigation; he is currently serving three life sentences without the possibility of parole. That night was supposedly an initiation night for one of them according to the investigation that had followed. It was presumed that their plans were to subdue us, kill me, rape and kill my wife, possibly do the same to my two girls, and torch the house to cover their tracks. The one who was suspected of being initiated was a fourteen year old boy. He was pronounced dead at the scene with two others. I asked the investigating officer what I did to become targeted like this. His reply………nothing!


I was advised of the likelihood of retaliation for this incident, and because of who was involved no statement was given to any news or media outlet, even though my wife seems to remember something on our local news about it.

This has been the first time since that day that I have ever really shared this with anyone other than really close family and friends. I have decided to share this now because of what’s been happening in this country with the talk about gun control, and because a really good friend of mine told me that people really need to know what happened. Some of your comments even have me concerned about this country’s future and our safety. A lot of people think that guns are rarely ever used for self-defense, and maybe their right, maybe my instance was extremely rare, I really hope so. I couldn’t fathom the possibility that there could be more animals like those that forced their way into my home that night left in our society, but I’m unconvinced that there is not. Until the day comes that there is no evil left in this world, the good will need the proper tools to defend themselves against those who are evil. For those of you that have guns and/or carry, train and train as often as you can, even if it’s just training videos off the internet, and have your spouse and even your children train with you. For those of you that are for gun control, please make sure the laws you are pushing for will actually keep guns out of these animals hands and not inhibit law abiding citizens from defending their loved ones. - See more at: http://www.1mmagc.org/1mmagc-blog/defensive-gun-use-saved-us#sthash.SWzb5RuR.dpuf

Bitter Clinger
05-25-2016, 03:29
If you highlight under the link you can read it, I have no idea what the hell is going on.

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flogger
05-25-2016, 04:57
Another example of good guy with a gun vs bad guy with a gun. Great post BC.

ray1970
05-25-2016, 07:19
What a horrific experience for a family to go through.

I'm fortunate that the layout of my home would have my family on the top floor and anyone looking to do us harm would have to come up a narrow flight of stairs in single file. I can cover those stairs from a position of cover and anyone who comes up those stairs after being warned to leave and that I was armed would be at a serious disadvantage.

I have zero desire to ever have to take another person's life but I'd do it in a heartbeat if I thought those I loved were in danger.

flogger
05-25-2016, 07:38
Just the notion of this being a first hand account is chilling. When you read 'The Armed Citizen' articles in the NRA Rifleman magazine, it's easy to mentally interject a bit of machismo into the story, like a movie, but this strory hits a different nerve. Call it luck/faith/Karma or whatever, this family survived something that will stay with them for the rest of their lives. I wish them the best. I'll be thinking about this story for a while.

As far as the perps go, 3 down 1 to go. Maybe these clowns will get the message.

Aloha_Shooter
05-25-2016, 07:58
Thanks for posting this. I should probably print it and be more proactive in helping my neighbors out with training and home defense weapon selection (they asked months ago but I've been busy).

BushMasterBoy
05-25-2016, 10:15
I think body armor is just as important to home defense as a firearm.

Zundfolge
05-25-2016, 10:23
I think body armor is just as important to home defense as a firearm.

Maybe, but if he had it, his wife would likely be the one wearing it.

At the risk of armchair-quarterbacking, the guy's near fatal mistake was "going hunting" ... he should have holed up with the wife and the two of them killed anyone that came near the door to the bedroom.

Dave_L
05-25-2016, 10:25
I think another important issue here is making sure that you and your wife have a firearm close by. Lots of people just keep a pistol by their bedside but that doesnt help the person left in the room and this story would have be vastly different if his wife didn't have a gun too.

beast556
05-25-2016, 10:39
Good read,

KS63
05-25-2016, 10:43
Scary situation. Cheered for the wife.

davsel
05-25-2016, 11:00
Would be more believable if there was anything at all to corroborate this story with.

Grant H.
05-25-2016, 11:38
I have to agree with Zund and Dave.

funkymonkey1111
05-25-2016, 12:00
Maybe, but if he had it, his wife would likely be the one wearing it.

At the risk of armchair-quarterbacking, the guy's near fatal mistake was "going hunting" ... he should have holed up with the wife and the two of them killed anyone that came near the door to the bedroom.


I think another important issue here is making sure that you and your wife have a firearm close by. Lots of people just keep a pistol by their bedside but that doesnt help the person left in the room and this story would have be vastly different if his wife didn't have a gun too.


Good read,

good points--we can all learn tips from these stories, verifiable or not (stay put, hole up, second gun, etc.)

Wulf202
05-25-2016, 12:17
Old and out of service cell phones will still call 911.

hurley842002
05-25-2016, 12:32
I think body armor is just as important to home defense as a firearm.

So do you sleep in your plate carrier? Or plan on having enough time to "suit up"? Just curious.

BushMasterBoy
05-25-2016, 13:46
Just in a bag ready. Takes as much time to put it on as a coat. Still think this story is another internet myth, as google shows nothing...

Graves
05-25-2016, 14:07
I had some skepticism too, but does everything have to be on the internet to make it true?

ray1970
05-25-2016, 15:19
True or made up doesn't matter too much to me. It's presented as a true event and there are lessons that can be learned from it. I'd rather have things to think about from a made up scenario than a similar scenario that was true with me being the leading character.

Snowman78
05-25-2016, 15:25
He said the cell phone was in the truck outside

Jamnanc
05-25-2016, 16:31
I just feel bad for the young men whose lives were ended by the scary gun.

Skip
05-25-2016, 16:50
I just feel bad for the young men whose lives were ended by the scary gun.

[ROFL2]


Sad that some people have been conditioned to think this way.

One of these national treasures could have found the cure for cancer. That's right, we could have an actual cure for cancer, but nooooo.... some gun-happy guy had to keep his family from getting raped/murdered.

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The part in the story about the verbal warning being used to identify location/numbers is interesting. If a team hears one voice and they've done their homework they know who's in the house and where. I guess you're taking a gamble here on how much value the bad team assigned to the element of surprise vs numbers.

The Extractor
05-25-2016, 17:37
Lessons to be learned, or is this going to be a Joke sessions? Keep your gun in reach, keep your cell in reach. What else?

Jamnanc
05-25-2016, 18:02
Well, it's a fake article that's been going around the net for years, so I vote joke session. But I guess I'll let the adults talk now.

Jer
05-26-2016, 12:59
I think another important issue here is making sure that you and your wife have a firearm close by. Lots of people just keep a pistol by their bedside but that doesnt help the person left in the room and this story would have be vastly different if his wife didn't have a gun too.

I respectfully disagree. He took the primary battle away from his wife and kids and while he was hurt it kept from from being physically harmed. If he had holed up waiting for the Cavalry (which wasn't coming based on what was reported) then all four likely would have reach that room they were all in nearly the same time and the odds of more than just him being hit would be greatly increased. I'm not going to second guess a single thing he did as he could have just as easily been asleep in his bed when they gained entry and things would likely have ended up much worse if they were trying to be reactive when already a couple steps behind the BG's and separated from their kids. Even though he went through hell and there's some mental trauma to everyone involved I feel like the best possible outcome was reached and given the BG's determination and preparation it could have just as easily gone much worse. I'm not going to second guess a single decision that was made in that story.

Jer
05-26-2016, 13:00
Well, it's a fake article that's been going around the net for years, so I vote joke session. But I guess I'll let the adults talk now.

This was my thought too. In this day and age it's REALLY hard to keep any piece of this a secret let alone all of it to the point where nobody can uncover a single aspect to connect the dots. The skeptic in me says to take this one with a grain of salt.

Dave_L
05-26-2016, 13:19
I respectfully disagree..

Um, I didn't say anything about leaving his wife. I said make sure the person left behind has a firearm too. Many people keep A pistol by the bed. In the story, his wife takes down the last person because he was out of the fight. If he didn't keep a second gun in there for her to use, it most definitely would have been different. That was what I was saying.

Jer
05-26-2016, 13:33
Um, I didn't say anything about leaving his wife. I said make sure the person left behind has a firearm too. Many people keep A pistol by the bed. In the story, his wife takes down the last person because he was out of the fight. If he didn't keep a second gun in there for her to use, it most definitely would have been different. That was what I was saying.

I meant to quote Zund who said he shouldn't have gone 'hunting' which is probably makes more sense when you read my post now.

Dave_L
05-26-2016, 13:57
Lol, yup. :)

Ah Pook
05-26-2016, 16:45
I thought it had too many holes to be true. The surviving gang member knew where they lived and I'm sure his flunkys could use Google Maps. I know of several people who live with their police scanners. Can you "scrub" 911 calls? A report would have to be filed by LE. Hole long can they keep it from the public?

Good "how to" on home invasions dos and don'ts though.

Martinjmpr
05-26-2016, 18:24
Yeah I'll take "shit that didn't happen" for $500.

"Gang initiation" :rolleyes: I thought gangs were still flashing their headlights at you andmurdering you if you flash back? When did they switch to home invasion/rape/murder/arson?


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Irving
05-26-2016, 18:28
This sounds like a story my neighbor would tell me. I bet if I reviewed all the emails from him that I've deleted without reading, this story is in there somewhere.

jhood001
05-26-2016, 22:25
True or made up doesn't matter too much to me. It's presented as a true event and there are lessons that can be learned from it.

I disagree and agree.

Anyone with a pen can write propaganda to rally an agreeing base. I don't see why anyone would fabricate this kind of story, but I don't understand why anyone would fabricate a story with an anti-gun objective, either. And yet, there a ton of them out there. People lie and embellish all the time when they deeply believe something and get a creative spark that ends up in the point of a pen. That old wretch Hillary was dodging sniper fire a while back. And her purpose for that lie was to pander to a sympathetic base. Sure, there are good lessons to learn from this story, but a lie is a lie.

With nothing to corroborate this tale, it is simply that - a tale. Regardless, if it is true, I wish for the best of this anonymous family.




My wife and I now still have a hard time sleeping, but are doing fine with our now three girls.

Nothing new for a self-proclaimed 'severe' insomniac, but the author thought to mention this anyway. Perhaps he was just being generous and using a form of inclusion to represent the suffering he took in on behalf of his restless wife.

I'm taking this story with a grain of salt.

Great-Kazoo
05-27-2016, 00:21
What I miss ?

Bitter Clinger
05-27-2016, 01:41
I disagree and agree.

Anyone with a pen can write propaganda to rally an agreeing base. I don't see why anyone would fabricate this kind of story, but I don't understand why anyone would fabricate a story with an anti-gun objective, either. And yet, there a ton of them out there. People lie and embellish all the time when they deeply believe something and get a creative spark that ends up in the point of a pen. That old wretch Hillary was dodging sniper fire a while back. And her purpose for that lie was to pander to a sympathetic base. Sure, there are good lessons to learn from this story, but a lie is a lie.

With nothing to corroborate this tale, it is simply that - a tale. Regardless, if it is true, I wish for the best of this anonymous family.




My wife and I now still have a hard time sleeping, but are doing fine with our now three girls.

Nothing new for a self-proclaimed 'severe' insomniac, but the author thought to mention this anyway. Perhaps he was just being generous and using a form of inclusion to represent the suffering he took in on behalf of his restless wife.

I'm taking this story with a grain of salt.
I have Insomnia, not all that strange to be up at 2am

jhood001
05-27-2016, 15:23
I have Insomnia, not all that strange to be up at 2am

No, nothing strange there.

What struck me as strange was him mentioning his insomnia at the start of the story and then closing it out with him and his wife having a hard time sleeping at night.