View Full Version : LE officer road rage fatality
trlcavscout
06-03-2016, 11:38
Two weeks ago this officer pulled me over for expired plates, i could tell he was new but he seemed nice. I hadnt received my renwel form in the mail and when i went to get my plates last week i found out they had the wrong address. Now i just have to take a day off work to go prove i got plates. It was odd when he gave me the ticket he said "its nothing personal, you seem like a really nice guy". But "apparently" he is not such a nice driver, and looking at his previous wreckless driving problems, maybe he should find a new line of work that doesnt require driving.
http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/22287423-113/evans-man-dies-in-alleged-road-rage-crash
hurley842002
06-03-2016, 11:52
I know it's hard to believe, but there are turds everywhere, even in law enforcement....
BushMasterBoy
06-03-2016, 12:14
The way I see it, I didn't miss the air show...it missed me! Bye!
The worst liars and road ragers I dealt with when working claims were always cops.
Cue the badge bunnies...
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
beast556
06-03-2016, 14:54
If he did it hope he gets prison and gets ass raped every day. In reality he will get a little slap on the wrist and walk free.
I happen to know the officer arrested in this incident. Can't say I knew him "well" but I dispatch for RTD Transit Police and I can say I never had an issue with him personally when he worked for for our security. Apparently beast556 has a crystal ball and already knows the outcome for Mr. Jackson so I guess I'll just kick back and chill.
I happen to know the officer arrested in this incident. Can't say I knew him "well" but I dispatch for RTD Transit Police and I can say I never had an issue with him personally when he worked for for our security. Apparently beast556 has a crystal ball and already knows the outcome for Mr. Jackson so I guess I'll just kick back and chill.
Lemme guess, you're the one that always sounds like he HATES his life?
I've been through a baker's dozen or so traffic stops up in Ault. There was an older guy that was a total douche bag every time and a younger kid that seemed really cool. Not sure if the older douche bag guy is the one in question here but if it is I'd like to send him a little message.
[Neene1]
How do you guys get all these tickets and have all this negative interaction with police? I learned that police, unless they really have a hair up their ass, will treat you as well as you treat them. I also learned that it isn't incumbent upon them to be nice, it starts with us, we're the ones who did something to garner their attention so we need to be as pleasant as possible. It works too, I've gotten out of more tickets just being nice and polite than I've ever received.
And what you doing speeding around small towns anyway, don't you know that they're looking ESPECIALLY for that violation?
I speed plenty, if it says 55 I'm doing 70+, if it says 75 I'm doing 80+ but NEVER near a small town.
Ok. I might have embellished a bit. It probably wasn't more than about four stops and I actually only got one ticket out of the deal.
I'm always friendly, cooperative, and polite when I get pulled over. That's probably gotten me out of more tickets than anything.
The first time I saw officer douche bag he was trying (poorly) to sneak up along side the passenger side of my truck with his hand firmly on his pistol while I was conversing with the younger officer through my driver's window. I watched him in my rear view mirror the whole time trying to figure out what this Barney Fife wanna-be was doing. He stood back there in my "blind spot" while the other officer was letting me off with a warning with his hand on his pistol the whole time.
Now, this might be cool if I was suspicious or whatever but basically I was pulled over for going about twelve miles an hour over the speed limit heading north out of their quaint little town. I was in an obviously marked company vehicle with no window tint, I signaled and pulled off the road as soon as it was safe to do so when they lit me up, I shut off the vehicle, rolled the driver's window completely down, and kept both of my hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. I might have been the easiest, safest traffic stop they had in a month. I just think officer douche bag was going a bit "Rambo" unnecessarily.
Oh, and even when I do get a ticket I'm nothing but polite. I usually end our little meeting by wishing the officer a nice day and telling him to be safe out there.
Grant H.
06-03-2016, 19:40
Every cop I have had an interaction with in stupid-ass-ault has been a negative experience...
They have all been self-aggrandizing putz's. Every single last one of them... Even the ones that let me off with a warning.
Ok. I might have embellished a bit. It probably wasn't more than about four stops and I actually only got one ticket out of the deal.
I'm always friendly, cooperative, and polite when I get pulled over. That's probably gotten me out of more tickets than anything.
The first time I saw officer douche bag he was trying (poorly) to sneak up along side the passenger side of my truck with his hand firmly on his pistol while I was conversing with the younger officer through my driver's window. I watched him in my rear view mirror the whole time trying to figure out what this Barney Fife wanna-be was doing. He stood back there in my "blind spot" while the other officer was letting me off with a warning with his hand on his pistol the whole time.
Now, this might be cool if I was suspicious or whatever but basically I was pulled over for going about twelve miles an hour over the speed limit heading north out of their quaint little town. I was in an obviously marked company vehicle with no window tint, I signaled and pulled off the road as soon as it was safe to do so when they lit me up, I shut off the vehicle, rolled the driver's window completely down, and kept both of my hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. I might have been the easiest, safest traffic stop they had in a month. I just think officer douche bag was going a bit "Rambo" unnecessarily.
Thank you.
I agree, he should have stayed in the car and let you and the younger officer complete your business.
jerrymrc
06-03-2016, 21:09
I want this to be civil. As to the statement
Cue the badge bunnies... This place was founded by a LEO. just saying.[beatdeadhorse]
I hope my posts weren't seen as uncivil. I definitely wasn't trying to be disrespectful to the profession or officers in general. Just one particular man with a bad attitude towards life in general.
trlcavscout
06-03-2016, 21:51
I've been through a baker's dozen or so traffic stops up in Ault. There was an older guy that was a total douche bag every time and a younger kid that seemed really cool. Not sure if the older douche bag guy is the one in question here but if it is I'd like to send him a little message.
[Neene1]
Not the same guy, this guy is new and i dont think the other guy is here anymore. The young kid is gone also, the pretty boy that never wanted to get involved with police work haha, anytime he was called for domestic problems or anything he would just tell them to work it out. He was cool but i think he was scared of confrontation. This was the first time i have been pulled over in YEARS and i was polite, no need to argue i didnt realize my plates had expired but it was my fault.
hurley842002
06-03-2016, 21:57
I hope my posts weren't seen as uncivil. I definitely wasn't trying to be disrespectful to the profession or officers in general. Just one particular man with a bad attitude towards life in general.
I don't think anything you posted was uncivil. I was going to post my rebuttal, but I'm over it, what's the point when people don't even respect the site owners wishes.
Lemme guess, you're the one that always sounds like he HATES his life?
Not sure what you mean by that. I certainly don't "HATE" my life. I'm actually rather happy with my job and my life. Feel free to guess away though. There's actually a couple of us that are members here on the forum, but don't let that stop you from being an ass. [fyou]
beast556
06-03-2016, 22:08
I happen to know the officer arrested in this incident. Can't say I knew him "well" but I dispatch for RTD Transit Police and I can say I never had an issue with him personally when he worked for for our security. Apparently beast556 has a crystal ball and already knows the outcome for Mr. Jackson so I guess I'll just kick back and chill.
I never said he was guilty, I said he needs to pay if he did it. How would you feel if that was your wife,son,brother,father,friend, that was killed.
I never said he was guilty, I said he needs to pay if he did it. How would you feel if that was your wife,son,brother,father,friend, that was killed.
You made the statement that he will not be punished for this even if he is guilty, at least that's the way I interpreted it. To answer your question, IF the person who was killed in this incident was a relative of mine, I would hope that the justice system works and justice is served. I would not immediately insinuate the officer would be let free based on his occupation or position. I would bet to say it's a tad early in the investigation to determine what happened, but sure...let's presume guilty until proven innocent. I can't make an opinion on whether or not Mr. Jackson is guilty or innocent. I wasn't there. None of us were. I just prefer to not Monday morning QB something where I wasn't involved.
When officers arrive, and there is only one side of the story, and they still suspect vehicular homicide, well then I'm pretty interested to hear about the details of the accident.
stoner01
06-03-2016, 23:02
Like Squezze I know the guy personally. He was a former supervisor of mine and this attitude is consistent with his actions when I worked with him. Personally I'm glad he's getting charged. He deserves it, he went way too long with his bullshit and now its finally caught up to him.
How do you guys always seem to get stopped in Ault? I must have driven through there hundreds upon hundreds of times, and never once got stopped. I don't generally follow the speed limit either.
Don't want police contact don't break the law.
bobbyfairbanks
06-04-2016, 08:12
Don't want police contact don't break the law.
Ya in this day and age that doesn't work all the time.
Shitty spot let's watch and see how this turns out. I hope there is a fair trial but trying him on this forum without the facts only makes you what you are a Internet ninja
Haha
hghclsswhitetrsh
06-04-2016, 11:24
Don't want police contact don't break the law.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...
Road Ragers scare the hell out of me. They're unpredictable, and you never know just what wild hair they have up their ass.
The percentage of road ragers in Colorado is pretty low. I spent enough time in Houston that you almost don't even notice it down there.
HBARleatherneck
06-04-2016, 13:46
I drove through Ault twice today.
I didnt get pulled over.
I drove through Ault twice today.
I didnt get pulled over.
Well then obviously you weren't going fast enough.
KevDen2005
06-04-2016, 14:56
I never said he was guilty, I said he needs to pay if he did it. How would you feel if that was your wife,son,brother,father,friend, that was killed.
You have a point. But I think you're missing that road rage incidents usually take two people. The officer in question may be guilty (or at least something that allows him to be charged) but every incident of road range I've investigated continued because both people wanted to continue being asses.
beast556
06-04-2016, 16:48
You have a point. But I think you're missing that road rage incidents usually take two people. The officer in question may be guilty (or at least something that allows him to be charged) but every incident of road range I've investigated continued because both people wanted to continue being asses.
This is very true it takes two. With that said he is a multiple offender. He is an officer of the law and should have enough self control to handle the situation, he is supposed to be enforcing the laws not braking them.
KevDen2005
06-04-2016, 17:49
This is very true it takes two. With that said he is a multiple offender. He is an officer of the law and should have enough self control to handle the situation, he is supposed to be enforcing the laws not braking them.
So your suggestion is that he definitely more wrong, no matter what the details of the accident or the investigation finds, because he is a law enforcement officer?
BushMasterBoy
06-04-2016, 17:51
Just call *277 and let the Colorado State Patrol handle it. It is a special number for road rage.
beast556
06-04-2016, 21:09
So your suggestion is that he definitely more wrong, no matter what the details of the accident or the investigation finds, because he is a law enforcement officer?
Yes. Law enforcement officers are there to enforce the law not to abuse and break it. This is my opinion, I know you are LE so we can go round and round on this subject and we will never see eye to eye on it.
This is very true it takes two. With that said he is a multiple offender. He is an officer of the law and should have enough self control to handle the situation, he is supposed to be enforcing the laws not braking them.
^^^ This. Unfortunately we're all human. Something I think a lot of people are overlooking with today's climate it the fact LE officers are being outright targeted by criminals. We have an administration that is practically condoning the murdering of law enforcement. As a former police officer, I knew that every day I put on the badge I was putting my life at risk. I believe that to be an even more risk now than it was several years ago. With our police being ambushed and killed, if I were still wearing that badge, I'd be on edge probably to the point where I would have an aneurysm. You couldn't pay me enough to go back out and work the street right now.
I also believe KevDen2005 made a valid point. It takes 2 to tango. When road rage ends up like this incident did, one person took the aggression too far and now they will have to answer for that. With the massive influx of people flooding our state, this is only going to get worse. Stay frosty out there.
I rolled through this shortly after it happened. I saw a uniformed LE talking to someone next to a green forester, driver side rear was tore up. That was a bit south of the f'n wrecked ranger, couldn't have guessed what that ranger was at the time. If it started in Gilcrest as they say, both parties had a few miles to make other choices.
HoneyBadger
06-05-2016, 09:34
I have no dog in the fight here - There are bad people in most organizations, law enforcement included.
[Devil's Advocate] What if the officer everyone is discussing was the victim here and the deceased was attempting to murder him with his vehicle? [/Devil's Advocate]
Officer's character aside, I hope the investigation determines the facts and guilty parties all meet the appropriate level of justice. I get pretty frustrated with the way other people drive sometimes. Nobody deserves to die over that.
KevDen2005
06-05-2016, 10:30
Yes. Law enforcement officers are there to enforce the law not to abuse and break it. This is my opinion, I know you are LE so we can go round and round on this subject and we will never see eye to eye on it.
There is absolutely no going rounds. You have to be a completely ignorant and ridiculous person to suggest and state that anyone should be repeatedly raped over circumstances which you know nothing about other than that one person is dead and both are most certainly to blame for this as both made poor choices over several miles. Yet you really don't know the actual circumstances of the accident. You are merely basing this only on a person's profession. The comment of rape alone is completely out of line. And I didn't realize you were perfect. Please tell us all how you achieved such a status. And I'm not defending the cop. If he's wrong I hope he gets chargedand like any person, the degree of the crime and his criminal history would have a lot to do with sentencing. I swear people like you would rather see cops burn on any incident rather than keep the evil that is truly destroying society locked up.
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