E85 in Greeley CHEAP GAS!

[sniper7]

Heard the Kum and go in Greeley on 29th has E85 for .89 a gallon.

i don't normally advocate using corn gas but at this price you are saving money big time.
mu personal research showed I got 25% less mpg using it but at less than half off its worth it as long as your vehicle is approved for the stuff.

[BushMasterBoy]

I use it for a quarter tank fill up. Cleans the injectors and doesn't throw a code on my Chevys. Adds a little pep too.

[ray1970]

Farmers get enough assistance from the government.

I'm not buying their crappy gas.

[Martinjmpr]

Must be some kind of promotion? E85 in the Denver area seems to run .20 to .25 less than cheap unleaded.

My Suburban is FFV rated so I've been running E85 the last couple of tanks to see if there's any difference. Can't really tell so far, on a recent trip from Denver to Loveland and back, plus some around town driving of ~200 miles or so my MPG was about 14, which is slightly lower than what I usually get.

When I was in Washington a couple of weeks ago I went to fuel up at The Post Formerly Known as Fort Lewis (JBLM) and E85 was actually about $.50 MORE expensive than unleaded, which seemed weird to me. I'm guessing they don't sell a lot of E85 if they price it higher.

[PSS]

Farmers get enough assistance from the government.

I'm not buying their crappy gas.
Well then, don't buy their food either![Coffee]

[DenverGP]

Would be nice to find it that cheap down here. At the few stations down here that carry it, it's very close in price to the regular stuff.

E85 itself doesn't offer any performance advantage. It contains about 25% less energy. But for e85 compatible vehicles, the injectors will just flow 25% more fuel to keep the air/fuel ratio correct.

It does have a very high effective octane rating. My son's grand prix is set up to run on E85. The alcohol content actually cools down the intake charge, letting him run more boost without knock/detonation. Picked up about 4 tenths in the quarter mile with the switchover (and the increase in boost it allowed). And it survived running stupid lean on one pass when the fuel pump failed. On gas it would have popped a piston.

[ray1970]

Well then, don't buy their food either![Coffee]

I don't. Most of my food comes from Mexico, Guatamala, etc.
[Coffee]

[roberth]

I don't. Most of my food comes from Mexico, Guatamala, etc.
[Coffee]

You're right, just look at the labels on the "fresh" food aisle, alot is imported.

Gov't subsidies on corn for ethanol are YUGE so guess what farmers like to grow.

CA won't let farmers water their crops b/c it takes water away from stupid critter that ought to be extinct anyway.

These 2 things are off the top of my head, there are probably others.

[Gman]

E85 will provide better engine torque, but mpg will suffer. Alcohol has less energy than gasoline for the same volume.

Gave up my Flex 2004 Tahoe, so no more E85 for me.

When you're making fuel from your food supply, that's not a great idea. I'd rather pay less for my Doritos and Cheetos. [Coffee]

[Martinjmpr]

Complaining about ethanol subsidies would only make sense if the oil industry wasn't heavily subsidized as well. The only way you're ever going to pump anything into your tank that hasn't been subsidized in one way or another by the taxpayer is to grow it yourself. ;)

[Aloha_Shooter]

My experience has been about 14% drop in mileage with E85 so I use E85 when the price is at least 20% lower than regular. I would rather farmers get subsidies than FSA types getting EBT cards although I'd prefer the federal government subsidize no industries or dependencies.

[J]

Would be nice to find it that cheap down here. At the few stations down here that carry it, it's very close in price to the regular stuff.

E85 itself doesn't offer any performance advantage. It contains about 25% less energy. But for e85 compatible vehicles, the injectors will just flow 25% more fuel to keep the air/fuel ratio correct.

It does have a very high effective octane rating. My son's grand prix is set up to run on E85. The alcohol content actually cools down the intake charge, letting him run more boost without knock/detonation. Picked up about 4 tenths in the quarter mile with the switchover (and the increase in boost it allowed). And it survived running stupid lean on one pass when the fuel pump failed. On gas it would have popped a piston.

Yep, effective octane is between 110 and 115 depending on concentration. Most stations around here are E70 in the winter and E85-E90 in the summer. My project car is now 100% E85 fueling. The fuel system is MASSIVE to support it at that power level with the additional amount needed in flow (capable of 2.1gal/min at 100% capacity, but over-engineered), but its WAAAYYYY cheaper than 110octane race gas at $14/gal.

A bunch of other things are needed to for it, but fuel octane alone I can go from about 440WHP to about 900WHP on E85 vs the crappy 91 octane around here.

[PSS]

I'm kinda curious what people really know about ag subsidies. As far as actual numbers. 79% of the farm bill goes to food stamps. When you exclude the food stamps 23% goes to crop insurance, 28% goes to conservation, 23% goes to commodity programs. Commodity programs make less than 5% of the total farm bill. I don't know of a farmer out there who wouldn't prefer to farm without the price manipulation the government does. Uncle Sam has his fingers in every aspect of our lives. 401k, IRA, EIC. Personally I think confirming to the government programs will limit your earning ability. I am involved in an ag related business (no subsidies involved).

[MrPrena]

Regardless of subsideries, increase in food prices, 89cent/gal is a good deal.
I don't own any flex fuel vehicle, but when I did, price of E85 had to be at least 25% lower than regular for me to even consider it.