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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kalamazoo-bike-accident-michigan-police-pickup-truck-driven-erratically/
COOPER TOWNSHIP, Mich. -- Police fielded complaints that a pickup truck was being driven erratically just minutes before the vehicle slammed into a group of bicyclists (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/multiple-fatalities-after-bicyclists-hit-in-kalamazoo-michigan/) in western Michigan, killing five, authorities said.Four other bicyclists suffered serious injuries in the crash early Tuesday evening in Cooper Township and were being treated at area hospitals, Kalamazoo County Prosecutor Jeffrey Getting said during a news conference Tuesday night.
The truck driver is in custody but has not been charged.
"Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims," Getting said. "I can't even begin to imagine what they're going through."
The driver of the pickup, described as a 50-year-old western Michigan man, fled from the wrecked vehicle, but police caught him a short time later.
clodhopper
06-08-2016, 09:32
Since most bicyclists wear competitive branded clothing and view themselves as peak level competitors, I am sure the pickup driver will be called a "race"ist and charged with a hate crime.
Heard about this on the news. Disgusting.
Doesn't read like the cyclists started it like cyclists are wont to do, reads like this guy was off his rocker.
Sad for sure but part of me almost chuckled. I mean who hasn't fantasized about doing it at some point?
StagLefty
06-08-2016, 11:44
Sad for sure but part of me almost chuckled. I mean who hasn't fantasized about doing it at some point?
When I meet up with Ray "do not ride a bike" [ROFL2]
Because trucks have "other uses". Guns are only made to destroy.
/liberal logic
Someone should sue the maker of the truck though, no?
Someone should sue the maker of the truck though, no?
Yes, surely it wasn't the jackass behind the wheel.
I think all the gun manufacturers should be sued for negligence since none of their products were used to shoot this guy in the face like he deserves.
I think all the gun manufacturers should be sued for negligence since none of their products were used to shoot this guy in the face like he deserves.
:)
Someone should sue the maker of the truck though, no?
Go for the deepest pockets: Sue the oil companies for refining the fuel for this death machine
mackbamf
06-08-2016, 15:17
I have said before that a crazy guy in a vehicle can at times do more damage than a crazy guy with a gun.
I grew up outside of Boulder and grew up to loathe cyclists on the road. Watching this video gives me a laugh every time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY
I think all the gun manufacturers should be sued for negligence since none of their products were used to shoot this guy in the face like he deserves.
THat was
funny...
[LOL]
The saddest part of this thread is that it's become a big joke every time someone is killed with anything other than a gun..
speedysst
06-08-2016, 15:48
I have never fantasized about using my truck to mow down other people simply because of their chosen mode of transportation. EVER.
Sad for sure but part of me almost chuckled. I mean who hasn't fantasized about doing it at some point?
speedysst
06-08-2016, 15:54
Yeah I had some asshat try this shit when I was on my motorcycle. It was so fucking funny, especially the part where he was slamming on his brakes so I would get closer!! HAHAHAHAHAHA. So funny in fact that I was trying to find the appropriate size rock to throw through his back window. Too bad the wind was blowing it out of my face. Fucking assholes.
I have said before that a crazy guy in a vehicle can at times do more damage than a crazy guy with a gun.
I grew up outside of Boulder and grew up to loathe cyclists on the road. Watching this video gives me a laugh every time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY
Yes, that is a dick move, all those bicyclists are on the right side of the white line
unless
they were riding down the middle of the road before the Cummins came along...then they deserve a good smoking.
I road bike mostly in the winter, I keep to the right, if there is a bike lane I'm in it, I don't ride on 2-lane roads without shoulders, stop/signal just like I'm driving my car...etc.etc
All this animosity towards 95% of road cyclists is well deserved, I loathe them too. People look at me and assume I'm a prick road biker too but that just goes with the territory.
It's a bullshit attitude to have. If the bike is in the road, wait. I know it sucks, but tough shit. Think any of these diesel driving pussies are threatening to ram tractors off the road or blowing smoke at harvesters? Just as slow, takes up even more room, but no one is running up the ass end of a backhoe.
Bicyclists drive me crazy but ive never swerved at them or smoked them in my diesel. That includes the time fatty mcfaterson couldnt pedal in a straight line up a hill on a two lane road. He was going so slow so he had to zig zag a bit to balance and forced traffic to stop behind him due to 2 lane road and a hill thus creating an unsafe condition to pass. Even more fun for the traffic coming up on you from behind at 50 mph. Cyclists that create road hazards are just that, road hazards.
Look up the legal requirements for riding a bicycle. You'd be nuts to follow the law.
BushMasterBoy
06-08-2016, 17:12
He should have bought a "Ranch Hand" bumper for his truck!
I don't mean to put a damper on the thread, and no one needs to be defensive, but this was a really horrible crime. I think I'd rather have been shot in the back than run over by a truck.
hurley842002
06-08-2016, 17:31
I don't mean to put a damper on the thread, and no one needs to be defensive, but this was a really horrible crime. I think I'd rather have been shot in the back than run over by a truck.
Kind of what I was thinking, hell, some of the comments here are worse than the ones in a similar thread, on a forum full way less classy folks. I probably just need to lighten up tho...
One more reason bicycles should be banned from the road.
until they comply with turn signals, lights, license plates, registration and insurance, there is no way they should be allowed on the road. They don't pay to use the roads so they shouldn't be on them. That's the bottom line and there isn't a damn defense against it..
i have have no sympathy for the driver given what info I have as it sounds like he was erratic before dealing with the bikers, but hopefully the authorities find the truth and justice will be served.
What truth? There isn't a reason to run people over. None.
Maybe he was suffering a stroke? A heart attack? A brain aneurism? It could have been an accident. and if those bikers had rear view mirrors like cars and motorcycles are required to have they could have had a chance to avoid the truck while he was having that terrible thing happen to him or while he was trying to run them over.
doesnt explain why he ran, maybe mental confusion related to any of the things I mentioned. but those theories are just as true right now based on the info in the article as him being an anti-bicyclist homicidal maniac.
And the picture in the link of the truck and emergency equipment is one more reason to ban bicycles. why in the hell are bicyclists on a 50mph road? They can't do 50. Any sane person doesn't even want to be on the side of the road changing a tire next to their large vehicle with other people hauling past them sending texts, talking, eating, surfing the web etc. let alone on a tiny bicycle wearing spandex doing 20+mph less than that speed limit while multi-ton vehicles go flying past them because they are creating a needless hazard on the road.
its not like a tractor trying to get to another field, or construction equipment moving job sites going slow, with flashers on. These people purposely put themselves in these situations for pleasure/think they are lance Armstrong/exercise....go buy a stationary bike and a tv and a fan. Join a gym. Ride on designated bike lanes....which should either be taken away or paid for by bicyclists by registering them and getting correct safety equipment, but since they aren't paying to use the road...ban them.
When I heard this report on the news, I caught a piece of a quote of someone saying that "they better get out of the way." That's not in this article. You're going to have a rough transition over the next few decades as more people start to ride bikes. Roads are for going from one place to another place, and motorized vehicles don't have a monopoly on road use. The sooner you accept that reality, the more enjoyable your life will be.
When I heard this report on the news, I caught a piece of a quote of someone saying that "they better get out of the way." That's not in this article. You're going to have a rough transition over the next few decades as more people start to ride bikes. Roads are for going from one place to another place, and motorized vehicles don't have a monopoly on road use. The sooner you accept that reality, the more enjoyable your life will be.
When they start paying for them I will accept them on the roads. But the overwhelming majority aren't people heading to work. They are hazards that are out on weekends riding mountain roads, curvy roads, sides of highways....oh and a large number of them Drive their cars to start locations before they start riding. I also expect the number of them getting flattened by distracted drivers to increase as well.
If they're driving to their start point, then they are paying for the roads. I don't particularly love sharing the road with cyclists, and I don't often ride myself (especially since I currently don't even own a bike), but I'd prefer not to worry about myself, or my family riding on the occasions that I/we do. I don't currently know a single person who road bikes, that doesn't drive a vehicle even more often. It's a bit of a fantasy to believe that bicyclists aren't paying for roads. I'm sure there are people who live in Downtown Denver that don't own cars and only ride bikes, but I have to tell you, I spend every day in various neighborhoods, from 7am to 6pm, often in Denver proper, and I don't see nearly as many bikes as you'd think.
So if I drive my truck to the starting point for my atv ride, I should be allowed to drive on the road without plates or registration or title or insurance?
What happens if a bicyclist is resposnible for causing an accident? No requirement for insurance yet we are making excuses for these people to be allowed on the road? What if you child is injured in this accident the bicyclist caused?
i own multiple vehicles. So by that logic I should only have to pay plates on one since that is all I will be driving at a time?
I see them almost every day I drive on highway 7. 60mph road.... They should not be there.
Your atv is a motorized vehicle. Bicycles are not motorized, and I don't know that they are held to the same standards as motorized vehicles, nor should they be. I laughed at the thought of a kid being injured in a vehicle vs. bike accident. No point in even discussing the risk of what-ifs. That is present in every activity we do in life.
*For the record, when I heard this story on the news this morning, there was some witness or something saying they heard the guy saying they better get out of his way. Since that wasn't in this article, I realize that I am coming across as some bike defender. I clearly had a different interpretation of this event.
clodhopper
06-09-2016, 07:34
Your atv is a motorized vehicle. Bicycles are not motorized, and I don't know that they are held to the same standards as motorized vehicles, nor should they be.
To continue your point, bicycles are not manufactured to the same standards as autos either, but are authorized to use the same roadways at substantially differing operational speeds. All these type arguments are circular. The laws are not based on determined logic, but rather historical convention. Bicycles have been around longer than cars, and people want to be able to use them on roads, so the laws are set up that way. Another example of convention over logic is horses, which have been used on roads significantly longer than cars and bicycles combined, but are now generally prohibited from being used on roads, simply because most people don't want to ride horses and certainly not enough to fight for it.
*For the record, when I heard this story on the news this morning, there was some witness or something saying they heard the guy saying they better get out of his way. Since that wasn't in this article, I realize that I am coming across as some bike defender. I clearly had a different interpretation of this event.
I would hope so. Otherwise you sound like either a tree-huggin, Bernie voting, boulderite, or a handlebar mustache wearin, fish taco eatin, hipster. I hadn't pegged you as either from previous posts, but maybe my initial impressions were off?
DavieD55
06-09-2016, 08:47
So if I drive my truck to the starting point for my atv ride, I should be allowed to drive on the road without plates or registration or title or insurance?
What happens if a bicyclist is resposnible for causing an accident? No requirement for insurance yet we are making excuses for these people to be allowed on the road? What if you child is injured in this accident the bicyclist caused?
i own multiple vehicles. So by that logic I should only have to pay plates on one since that is all I will be driving at a time?
I see them almost every day I drive on highway 7. 60mph road.... They should not be there.
Generally I wouldn't agree with more regs and taxes, but if a person is dumb enough to be out playing in traffic on the highway (like many of those biker people are) creating a road hazard they need to take on some responsibility for their actions when they choose to do so. I see it here in Boulder County all the time, people riding their bicycles right out in traffic on the highway and they are basically immune from any responsibility.
A good friend of mine who is a delivery driver for one of the major package delivery companies around here almost lost his job and his livelihood because of one of those tour de france types. My friend was out working his routt for the day, while he was at an intersection stopped at a red light waiting, the biker road up behind his delivery truck, hit the back end of it and fell off his bike then called 911 to report he was hit by the delivery truck my buddy almost got aressted for assult and almost lost his job because of this individual riding his bicycle in traffic. If it wouldn't have been for witnesses there that said the guy was lying my friend would have been in deep s---.
Nothing happend to the biker for his falsified report or story and was sent along his way to ride off into traffic.
I also believe that at some point the solution to the problem the politicians have created will be to install very expensive bike lanes all over the place at some point in the future. Part of that sustainable development UN agenda 21 plan.
I just wish cyclists would use common sense. They always pick the worst/most dangerous roads to ride on. All in the name of "you have to share the road so I can ride where I want". I do not like that as it causes dangerous situations for motorists. If you can't ride safely, do not ride on that road and I think motorists would be much more inclined to share.
Just like people who don't clean up after their dogs, ruin the impression of having dogs for the people that do clean up the mess.
If those dogs are pooping in the middle of the road causing traffic to come to a hault, then yes, I can see the parallel.
At the very least I think that if you want to share the road you should share the rules. I so very often see someone on a bike riding in traffic, in the middle of the road and then running through red lights and stop signs. I also think that if I drove my car at 20mph on a road that has a 50mph limit, in some cases, I'd get pulled over for unsafe driving. I also agree with the registration and taxing points. I pay a hefty fee to register my car to get access to and pay for roads. Where that money actually goes is a whole new can of worms. Then there are the cases where you see someone riding right in the middle of say Broadway or Colfax when there is another, much less busy, road one block over. Don't try to be cool and ride in the middle of busy traffic when there is a completely good side road one block away that goes the same place.
SSChameleon
06-09-2016, 09:49
I ride a road bike and will put in hundreds of miles a year on the road. I know many cyclists and just like gun owners, ATV riders and diesel truck drivers, there are assholes in each group that can ruin it for everyone. Be careful painting with a broad brush, the majority of road bikers make good incomes and pay more in taxes than many of the people on this site will make in a year. It's easy to point at the entitled asshat running red lights and say they should all be banned from the road. That's like saying, just because there is one idiot shooting in the national forest, we should ban all shooters from the forest. Just because one guy rolls coal at the stoplight we should ban all diesel trucks.
I'm not saying to ban bikes, just that sharing the road should mean sharing the rules too.
Comparing a constitutional right to a privilege, and hardly one at that is not a debate. Guns have no place in this thread honestly.
The egotistical mind of a cyclist is ever present. They don't honor size of vehicle and make way, they don't honor speed and move over, they don't acknowledge laws, signs or even basics or road safety. When was the last time you saw a guy on a bicycle use him arm to let other motorists know which direction he was going to turn? And I don't give a fuck how much somebody makes it doesn't give them more of a right to ride their bike on a road that I am paying for using my vehicle. I pay a shitload of taxes too. More in a month than most people make a month in fact so that argument can end right there. I just worked with a guy for 3 days that talked about his cycling, how he rides the canyon roads, he talked as if he were gods gift to the Tour de France because he watched in one year. And he also acknowledged he has never owned a gun and sees no point in it. And guess what he drives....a Subaru.
they teach you in basic grade school to correlate patterns and associate certain things with others. It is very easy to associate egotistic assholes on road bikes with liberal non gun owning assholes and I guarantee you will be an A in class if you judged 100 of them. It's easy to paint with a broad brush when you know you are going to cover almost the entire canvas with one swipe.
DavieD55
06-09-2016, 10:23
Not to take this off into a debate about taxes, but we pay through the nose in taxes, fees, and fines, especially on our license plate "fees" tax ritter. I sure as hell can't afford anymore taxes. But, I will say that there is no place for bicycles on the highway immune from responsibility when they cause an accident.
Just wanted to be clear that I don't support anymore taxes, even for the cyclists.
speedysst
06-09-2016, 10:43
After reading some of your hateful rants you have the nerve to talk about the "egotistical mind" of a cyclist?? You make so many assumptions about cyclists not paying taxes its not longer funny. May 1000 cyclists block your path.
Comparing a constitutional right to a privilege, and hardly one at that is not a debate. Guns have no place in this thread honestly.
The egotistical mind of a cyclist is ever present. They don't honor size of vehicle and make way, they don't honor speed and move over, they don't acknowledge laws, signs or even basics or road safety. When was the last time you saw a guy on a bicycle use him arm to let other motorists know which direction he was going to turn? And I don't give a fuck how much somebody makes it doesn't give them more of a right to ride their bike on a road that I am paying for using my vehicle. I pay a shitload of taxes too. More in a month than most people make a month in fact so that argument can end right there. I just worked with a guy for 3 days that talked about his cycling, how he rides the canyon roads, he talked as if he were gods gift to the Tour de France because he watched in one year. And he also acknowledged he has never owned a gun and sees no point in it. And guess what he drives....a Subaru.
they teach you in basic grade school to correlate patterns and associate certain things with others. It is very easy to associate egotistic assholes on road bikes with liberal non gun owning assholes and I guarantee you will be an A in class if you judged 100 of them. It's easy to paint with a broad brush when you know you are going to cover almost the entire canvas with one swipe.
If something isn't specifically illegal, it's your right to do it. There is no such thing as honoring the size of a vehicle. There are rules of the road, which include which vehicle has the greater duty to yield right of way to other vehicles, depending on the established rules of the road. No vehicle has the right of way either. Traffic statutes address who should yield to whom depending on the situation. Size never enters the equation. People who believe that because their vehicle is larger than another gives them the "right of way" are simply assholes with no understanding of traffic statutes. All this talk about speed limits can only be applied to roads with a posted minimum speed limit, of which there are very few.
Cyclists who ride in the road, yet ignore the rules of the road are just as much assholes as the people who think they own the road because they are in a vehicle.
I honestly don't understand the talk of licensing and taxes. It's just too dumb of an argument to merit any discussion.
SSChameleon
06-09-2016, 10:55
Comparing a constitutional right to a privilege, and hardly one at that is not a debate. Guns have no place in this thread honestly.
The egotistical mind of a cyclist is ever present. They don't honor size of vehicle and make way, they don't honor speed and move over, they don't acknowledge laws, signs or even basics or road safety. When was the last time you saw a guy on a bicycle use him arm to let other motorists know which direction he was going to turn? And I don't give a fuck how much somebody makes it doesn't give them more of a right to ride their bike on a road that I am paying for using my vehicle. I pay a shitload of taxes too. More in a month than most people make a month in fact so that argument can end right there. I just worked with a guy for 3 days that talked about his cycling, how he rides the canyon roads, he talked as if he were gods gift to the Tour de France because he watched in one year. And he also acknowledged he has never owned a gun and sees no point in it. And guess what he drives....a Subaru.
they teach you in basic grade school to correlate patterns and associate certain things with others. It is very easy to associate egotistic assholes on road bikes with liberal non gun owning assholes and I guarantee you will be an A in class if you judged 100 of them. It's easy to paint with a broad brush when you know you are going to cover almost the entire canvas with one swipe.
I guess since I ride a bike I should sell my guns and put a Bernie sticker on my truck. Wait...do I need to sell my truck and get a Subaru since I ride a bike? I should probably tell my friends who ride bikes and shoot guns that Sniper says we are all anti-gun now. Look for a fire sale in the trading post!
And the picture in the link of the truck and emergency equipment is one more reason to ban bicycles. why in the hell are bicyclists on a 50mph road? They can't do 50. Any sane person doesn't even want to be on the side of the road changing a tire next to their large vehicle with other people hauling past them sending texts, talking, eating, surfing the web etc. let alone on a tiny bicycle wearing spandex doing 20+mph less than that speed limit while multi-ton vehicles go flying past them because they are creating a needless hazard on the road.
its not like a tractor trying to get to another field, or construction equipment moving job sites going slow, with flashers on. These people purposely put themselves in these situations for pleasure/think they are lance Armstrong/exercise....go buy a stationary bike and a tv and a fan. Join a gym. Ride on designated bike lanes....which should either be taken away or paid for by bicyclists by registering them and getting correct safety equipment, but since they aren't paying to use the road...ban them.
+ 1,000,000
I will say right now, I'm a road cyclist, motorcycle rider, and taxpayer. When I am forced to ride on the street, I follow the rules. I ride as far as is practical to the right(usually to the right of the white line), I obey traffic laws, and I am damned cognizant of the hazards and size differential inherent in riding on public roads. Even when I technically have the right of way, I will yield to the heavier, faster vehicles, because that is the safe and prudent thing to do. If I can ride off of public roads, I generally do, but sidewalks are made for pedestrians, and are not safe (or in many cases, legal) to ride on. As far as taxation goes, I'll be happy to pay an appropriate registration fee, based on vehicle weight and mileage, so if I have to pay $20 a year to register my bicycle, which weighs about 220 pounds with me on it, and covers about a thousand miles per year on public roads, then a guy who owns a 8600 lb GVW pickup that covers 20000 miles per year should pay $15636, based on vehicle weight*mileage. Yeah, it pisses me off when bicyclists and motorcyclists act like entitled asshats and make the rest of their respective communities look bad, but saying we're all evil entitled pricks is just like saying that all ATV guys tear the shit out of the national forests and should be banned, all campers are slobs, all shooters destroy public and private property, etcetera. Even if I am riding my bicycle, I still pay registration, insurance, etc. for my cars and motorcycles, which are causing no wear and tear on the road
In terms of the speed issue I think that someone driving say 40mph on I25 while in the fast lane (with clear traffic) is causing a safety issue. Not saying cyclists are assholes or have super egos, I'm not in that part of the discussion at all. I've heard of people getting pulled over though for going to slow without a minimum speed limit. It really can be a flat out safety issue. I don't think common sense in terms of using a less busy road, obeying lights and trying not to be obstructive is out of line.
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I guess since I ride a bike I should sell my guns and put a Bernie sticker on my truck. Wait...do I need to sell my truck and get a Subaru since I ride a bike? I should probably tell my friends who ride bikes and shoot guns that Sniper says we are all anti-gun now. Look for a fire sale in the trading post!
If you feel the need then I say go for it. I already said I paint with a broad brush, I may not get 100% but I will sure get an A.
If something isn't specifically illegal, it's your right to do it. There is no such thing as honoring the size of a vehicle. There are rules of the road, which include which vehicle has the greater duty to yield right of way to other vehicles, depending on the established rules of the road. No vehicle has the right of way either. Traffic statutes address who should yield to whom depending on the situation. Size never enters the equation. People who believe that because their vehicle is larger than another gives them the "right of way" are simply assholes with no understanding of traffic statutes. All this talk about speed limits can only be applied to roads with a posted minimum speed limit, of which there are very few.
Cyclists who ride in the road, yet ignore the rules of the road are just as much assholes as the people who think they own the road because they are in a vehicle.
I honestly don't understand the talk of licensing and taxes. It's just too dumb of an argument to merit any discussion.
i would have thought you could see the need for insurance and registration for any vehicle using public roads. They have to get paid for somehow. The roads in CO are IMO terrible and a misappropriation of funds is my best guess as to why they aren't taken care of.
so say a bicyclist runs a red light or stop sign causing you to slam on your brakes to avoid him, you get rear ended, hit the bicyclist anyways. Now you have vehicle damage possible injuries and medical bills. How is this cyclist going to pay for it? What if he rides off or runs away, no license plate/registration tying that person to the accident and now you and the other driver are stuck dealing with your insurance....assuming you have the right coverage or full coverage.
You said yourself the number of bicyclists are going to increase, so obviously the number of bicycle related accidents will increase as well. Should we continue to make them immune from paying to register and carry insurance while traveling on public roads? Please explain how that is a dumb argument
After reading some of your hateful rants you have the nerve to talk about the "egotistical mind" of a cyclist?? You make so many assumptions about cyclists not paying taxes its not longer funny. May 1000 cyclists block your path.
im an equal opportunity hater. Doesn't matter who you are, if people do stupid shit I call them on it. When a collective group of people consistently do stupid shit I start to associate those people as being stupid. Not a hard concept to grasp.
i never said cyclists didn't pay taxes, they just aren't paying them for their bicycles to have access to public roads. And I want that to change along with enforcement for following the law and new safety restrictions requiring lights, turn signals, insurance and maybe a bicycle endorsement to be added to their drivers license while I'm at it.
and may 1000 cyclists receive flat tires too.
The general liability on home owners insurance would cover that loss. Many people don't own homes and don't carry general liability insurance. It is exactly the same thing as choosing not to have insurance for anything else in life.
I will say though, that the police can do a much better job if holding people accountable for things. Often times, if there is no vehicle involved, the police are just lazy and let them go.
I just wish CO would let me plate my RZR and drive it around town already.
Low-powered scooters (50cc) require a driver's license, liability insurance, registration, and can use bike lanes.
Yet, they are NOT allowed on roads with a speed limit over 40mph.
I have always wondered why are bicycles allowed on public roads with speed limits over 40mph, and require none of the above?
speedysst
06-09-2016, 14:54
"I want this I want that." How does it feel to want so much that you cant have. Maybe you should run for public office and you can shove your stringent, selfish overbearing regulations down everyone's throat. Damn Im glad I dont ever have to share the road with you in any form because your selfishness and anger are prime ingredients for a violent road rage incident.
im an equal opportunity hater. Doesn't matter who you are, if people do stupid shit I call them on it. When a collective group of people consistently do stupid shit I start to associate those people as being stupid. Not a hard concept to grasp.
i never said cyclists didn't pay taxes, they just aren't paying them for their bicycles to have access to public roads. And I want that to change along with enforcement for following the law and new safety restrictions requiring lights, turn signals, insurance and maybe a bicycle endorsement to be added to their drivers license while I'm at it.
and may 1000 cyclists receive flat tires too.
"I want this I want that." How does it feel to want so much that you cant have. Maybe you should run for public office and you can shove your stringent, selfish overbearing regulations down everyone's throat. Damn Im glad I dont ever have to share the road with you in any form because your selfishness and anger are prime ingredients for a violent road rage incident.
In other words, "You talk scary. Me need a safe space"
trlcavscout
06-09-2016, 15:21
I hate getting stuck behind the cyclists that wont stay in their lane, but its really not much worse then the motorcycle riders that like to ride like idiots swerving in and out of traffic and riding in your blind spot. I drive 2 lane county roads a lot and i see a lot of both, but the motorcycles are worse taking up two lanes trying to act cool taking corners to fast, it is funny when they come around the corner in my lane and realize i am not swerving though. And the 49cc scooters that people ride when they get a DUI and lose their license, i just love following them down 65mph highways.
"I want this I want that." How does it feel to want so much that you cant have. Maybe you should run for public office and you can shove your stringent, selfish overbearing regulations down everyone's throat. Damn Im glad I dont ever have to share the road with you in any form because your selfishness and anger are prime ingredients for a violent road rage incident.
I would be more than happy to run for office and jam my agenda down liberals throats. Hope they have a great gag reflex cause I would jam so hard it would make a porn star gag.
And you will be sharing the road with me during elk season. I wouldn't ride your bike in September, you might get some elk blood on your cute little spandex jersey as I pass you.
Why do these threads always go to shiat?
I'm more entitled!
No, I'm more entitled!!
I hope they fry the SOB for killing five innocent people.
IBTL
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