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68Charger
06-29-2016, 22:01
Not one real Man was found to be present...
http://kdvr.com/2016/06/29/video-shows-man-violently-attacking-people-on-16th-street-mall/
.455_Hunter
06-29-2016, 22:04
Drugs are bad, ummmkayyy...
Over/under on the number of days before one of these scum bags eats a Gold Dot?
gnihcraes
06-29-2016, 22:06
meth head at train stop earlier, about got clocked by me. crazy mofo. another couple of inches..smack.
Hate it that I can't carry to and from work. (no place to secure at work)
68Charger
06-29-2016, 22:06
Drugs are bad, ummmkayyy...
Over/under on the number of days before one of these scum bags eats a Gold Dot?
My guess is the kind of people that conceal carry don't frequent the 16th street mall much- I know I'd be sick of it just finding parking.
buffalobo
06-29-2016, 22:20
My guess is the kind of people that conceal carry don't frequent the 16th street mall much- I know I'd be sick of it just finding parking.
^^^Something along these lines. Bad enough I have to drive thru couple times a week.
I miss the job I used to have, but I don't miss working at 17th & Curtis.
Use to work at the ING building on 12th and Broadway and use to hit 16th for lunch, I believe that's where my hatred of the general public began. Might just be me but I would have loved to work out some of my aggressions out on him in the name of self defense.
Uberjager
06-29-2016, 23:31
I got off work just at 6, and came out of the building the guy was filming in. I heard the pipe-wielding maniac screaming, and saw him with the pipe. I didn't think he'd get violent.
I missed the show. [Abused]
Long pole, bad weapon against multiple targets, IMO. Difficult to quickly target and redirect an attack once started. Doesn't anyone teach the tactic of getting inside the swing anymore?
The story mentioned he was arrested but I didn't see any mention of him being tazed. Either the reporter omitted that little tidbit or he dropped the pole when the PoPo showed up. Just watching the video, I'm not sure I would have drawn on him, but I wasn't there so I will reserve my judgement. Glad no significant injuries and everyone was treated and soon returned to their urban camping.
Be safe.
Chief_of_Scouts
06-29-2016, 23:34
My guess is the kind of people that conceal carry don't frequent the 16th street mall much
I may not frequent that cesspool, but when I do, I always conceal carry. The issue is, if anyone shoots one of these bums in self-defense, it will be in the headlines: Gunman Shoots Unarmed Homeless Person in Cold Blood. Twenty other bums will testify that the shooting was unprovoked.
Only a matter of time before one of these cretins either really hurts someone, or picks the wrong person to annoy and ends up gutted like a fish...
DireWolf
06-30-2016, 02:03
I may not frequent that cesspool, but when I do, I always conceal carry. The issue is, if anyone shoots one of these bums in self-defense, it will be in the headlines: Gunman Shoots Unarmed Homeless Person in Cold Blood. Twenty other bums will testify that the shooting was unprovoked.
I think this would be the biggest concern, which is why I also think there's lots to be said for adding a small sharp fixed-blade and ASP baton to round out the daily carry in addition to a sidearm - much more discreet options and allows for the applied (self defense) force to be anywhere from fuck-them-up-real-bad up to lethal.....
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Aloha_Shooter
06-30-2016, 06:34
The current legal and social framework would have me leery about the situation until the threat was directed at me. In addition, the guy's swinging a 5-ft pipe? Grab a damned chair or something to tangle up the pipe then tackle him if you must -- I'd be afraid of stupid anti-gun people taking his side legally because "gun vs. pole". The guy is flipped out but if I can get away from him without shooting, I will. Let the anti-gun pro-bum socialist retards in Denver deal with their own messes.
Pepper spray or a tazer could have ended that real quick. No gun required.
When you close mental institutions and keep unstable people in society....
Bailey Guns
06-30-2016, 07:05
Might just be me but I would have loved to work out some of my aggressions out on him in the name of self defense.
No. It's not just you.
It's only going to get worse before it gets better. The Governor, Mayor and DPD top administration are treating these vagrants with kid gloves. It's only a matter of time before one of the sheeple downtown gets seriously hurt/killed by one of these vagrants. I don't frequent the downtown area and haven't in a very long time. When I venture outside the home, I prefer to avoid putting myself in the lion's den if at all possible. A friend of mine who works for one of the alphabet soup agencies told me the other day since June 1st they've made 53 arrests involving Heroin trafficking and every one arrested were ALL illegal aliens from Mexico or Honduras. I am curious to see how far the Mayor lets this type of criminal activity happen in the downtown area before he finally decides to turn his back, shut his eyes and take the leash off of the Denver PD officers.
colorider
06-30-2016, 07:39
you do NOT want to stab, punch, or make contact with these filthy druggies. AIDS, hepatitis, and who knows what else they may have. They are street living junkies. Engage from a distance. I'm being totally serious. Think about it. I do.
68Charger
06-30-2016, 07:42
I think CStone said it best- I would hesitate to draw on him... would have to convince a jury I feared for my life.
If he was coming for me, I was thinking rush & tackle- a long weapon like that is too slow, and you get inside it's reach and he'll drop it (or face the consequences)
If he's attacking someone else, would be a chance to take him down and put him in a hold... this is a situation where grappling like Jiu Jitsu
But cowering and covering their head? All of them? This kind of victim mentality is what will make terrorists successful...
colorider has a point- I don't have experience with that kind of problem... so frankly I'd probably act and regret it later as I'm waiting for test results.
you do NOT want to stab, punch, or make contact with these filthy druggies. AIDS, hepatitis, and who knows what else they may have. They are street living junkies. Engage from a distance. I'm being totally serious. Think about it. I do.
Yup, just walk or run away. Better yet, avoid downtown Denver if you can.
When I've worked downtown I've seen them under every shady tree along speer near colfax. I've sadly seen them shit right there in the median basically next to the steam bridges. Shoot up in alleys, try to make love to rubber door stops. I'm constantly chasing them out from peeing behind our dumpsters (though this isnt just the homeless but all kinda of various piece of shit denver dwellers) Last one is minor but irks me since there aside from public restrooms a block away, also plenty of dirt/weed and plant covered area in the alleys but they walk up to the alcove with multiple fucking camera's very conspiciously placed and still act suprised when I burst out the door.
Fort Collins is also seeing some bad issues and news article talked about some campground west of there or boulder that is like 70% homeless now living semi permanently trashing the area.
68Charger
06-30-2016, 08:26
Yup, just walk or run away. Better yet, avoid downtown Denver if you can.
It's not like Denver is the only place with this problem... any place where liberals are in charge this is the eventual outcome.
If y'all can't wrestle it away from the socialists, then it will look like Detroit- only a matter of time.
The Downtown Denver Partnership has their collective head in the sand. They refuse to acknowledge the multitude of problems that exist on the mall. DPD Chief White insists it's a group of "travelers" that are the flashpoint for the problems. Total bullshit. There have been surveys sent out to conventioneers asking about their experience and they consistently come back with more negative comments, especially regarding the issue of "how safe" people feel.
The DDP has been talking publicly since at least February about how the lighting will be improved, adding unarmed security staff and having more patrols form DPD. Where are the improvements? I, like many of you, do not venture that way at night especially if I don't absolutely have to.
Now the guys that work the PD mall unit certainly have their hands full once the sun goes down but there's just not enough to deal with the degenerates that not only prey on each other but frequently the hapless out-of-towner that has been lulled into a fall sense that the mall is such a nice place to visit on a nice summer night.
I still enjoy living in the metro area though I rarely venture to downtown itself. The major exceptions are when I have friends/family visiting and that's usually for a museum visit. Plenty of great restaurants and other shopping necessities in my area of Centennial (think Southglenn and east to I-25) that I don't have to go downtown.
Besides, no gun shops that way either LOL.
Yup, screw downtown. I never have a desire to go down there. This is why. Too much trash down there now.
I miss working downtown so much, sometimes I fill my humidifier with urine..... (apologies to Emo Philips)
Trigger Time 23
06-30-2016, 09:16
carry a big stick........
.455_Hunter
06-30-2016, 10:08
My family and I have enjoyed visiting the 16th Street Mall and Lodo area semi-frequently for about 14 years. We like the Paramount Cafe, Lime, Tavern, etc. Most of those locations it is possible and legal to be armed. No way will we go down on the mall unarmed. Coors Field is an exception, but we go straight from the main parking lots to the game and back- good police presence. If we go "wander" after a game, we will relocate the car and re-arm.
BPTactical
06-30-2016, 10:08
Long pole, bad weapon against multiple targets, IMO. Difficult to quickly target and redirect an attack once started. Doesn't anyone teach the tactic of getting inside the swing anymore?
The story mentioned he was arrested but I didn't see any mention of him being tazed. Either the reporter omitted that little tidbit or he dropped the pole when the PoPo showed up. Just watching the video, I'm not sure I would have drawn on him, but I wasn't there so I will reserve my judgement. Glad no significant injuries and everyone was treated and soon returned to their urban camping.
Be safe.
This course of action would require an Alpha male.
Sadly none of those exist downtown as it was "Take your Beta to work day"
Anyone else surprised to even see this reported? It's been going on for some time now. If I had to put my finger on it, I'd say DPD decreased their presence around 2008 and it's gone downhill from there. We had those racially motivated attacks a few years ago too. They tried to bury that fast.
hurley842002
06-30-2016, 10:37
There is a man with a big stick attacking people, why the hell is everyone standing around waiting for him to come their way?!? Unless I'm that first guy that gets hit, I'm not sticking around to find out what this weirdos next move is. On top of that, it sounds like he was lashing out verbally before he ever started getting physical, WHY NOT GET THE HELL OUT OF THEIR!?
Zundfolge
06-30-2016, 11:41
Not one real Man was found to be present...
nobody sensible goes to the 16th street mall.
colorider
06-30-2016, 11:52
It made the news because there was a nice clear video of it and the situation could not remain out of the public eye. By making it a news story, they show they are on top of these stories. Denver leaders have their head in the sand and want to keep promoting Denver as the best place to be. Ignoring that their decisions have caused these problems.
It's not like Denver is the only place with this problem... any place where liberals are in charge this is the eventual outcome.
If y'all can't wrestle it away from the socialists, then it will look like Detroit- only a matter of time.
If Amendment 69 passes, it won't be long at all!
colorider
06-30-2016, 16:11
The movie "The Purge" doesn't seem like such a bad concept. Just kidding, But is it ?,,,...................
A friend of mine who works for one of the alphabet soup agencies told me the other day since June 1st they've made 53 arrests involving Heroin trafficking and every one arrested were ALL illegal aliens from Mexico or Honduras. I am curious to see how far the Mayor lets this type of criminal activity happen in the downtown area before he finally decides to turn his back, shut his eyes and take the leash off of the Denver PD officers.
SANCTUARY!!!!
If Amendment 69 passes, it won't be long at all!
If Amendment 69 passes no one will have any money to go downtown.
stoner01
06-30-2016, 20:34
I think this would be the biggest concern, which is why I also think there's lots to be said for adding a small sharp fixed-blade and ASP baton to round out the daily carry in addition to a sidearm - much more discreet options and allows for the applied (self defense) force to be anywhere from fuck-them-up-real-bad up to lethal.....
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ASPs are considered an illegal weapon if you aren't a PoPo. And a fixed blade is frowned upon as well. Also, if he were to attack you and you stab him, it will go about as well as shooting him if not worse. Its the mall, walk the other way. If you do and he comes after you like that then by all means beat the shit out of him.
GunsRBadMMMMKay
06-30-2016, 21:00
Its the mall, walk the other way. If you do and he comes after you like that then by all means beat the shit out of him.
I was thinking more like I was walking that way when some tard charged....rather then take the blow from the pipe or whatever weapon it was he had in hand choose to close the gap and then precede to hit him till he stopped moving in an aggressive manner. Can you stand your ground in Denver?
funkymonkey1111
06-30-2016, 22:03
ASPs are considered an illegal weapon if you aren't a PoPo.
says who?
Aloha_Shooter
06-30-2016, 23:15
Nothing illegal about walking around with a 2 iron ... y'know just in case you want to practice your swing and hip rotations.
90% of the youth go down to LODO to try and practice their hip rotations.
hurley842002
06-30-2016, 23:20
90% of the youth go down to LODO to try and practice their hip rotations.
LOL
BPTactical
07-01-2016, 05:17
90% of the yutes go down to LODO to try and practice their hip rotations.
Fixed it for you
So far I know of ASP and batons are not illegal. <26"
However, it will look real bad on camera or some witnesses who might not have seen the entire thing.
Speaking of asp, I might sell few of my asp on tp. [Coffee]
hollohas
07-01-2016, 07:26
90% of the youth go down to LODO to try and practice their hip rotations.
Hahaha.
Great-Kazoo
07-01-2016, 07:52
So far I know of ASP and batons are not illegal. <26"
However, it will look real bad on camera or some witnesses who might not have seen the entire thing.
Speaking of asp, I might sell few of my asp on tp. [Coffee]
I've owned mine since they were called a Kosh ;) I still carry my grandfathers blackjack he carried as a NYPD.
IMO like a gun, better to have and not need. Then Need and not have.
ThunderSquirrel
07-01-2016, 08:05
I believe black jacks are specifically listed as "illegal weapons" in Colorado statutes. Not sure about asps or batons though.
But as stated above, better to have and not need...
C.R.S. 18-12-101
COLORADO REVISED STATUTES
*** This document reflects changes current through all laws passed at the First Regular Session
of the Seventieth General Assembly of the State of Colorado (2015) ***
TITLE 18. CRIMINAL CODE
ARTICLE 12. OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
PART 1. FIREARMS AND WEAPONS - GENERAL
C.R.S. 18-12-101 (2015)
18-12-101. Definitions - peace officer affirmative defense
(1) As used in this article, unless the context otherwise requires:
(a) "Adult" means any person eighteen years of age or older.
(a.3) "Ballistic knife" means any knife that has a blade which is forcefully projected from the handle by means of a spring-loaded device or explosive charge.
(a.5) "Blackjack" includes any billy, sand club, sandbag, or other hand-operated striking weapon consisting, at the striking end, of an encased piece of lead or other heavy substance and, at the handle end, a strap or springy shaft which increases the force of impact.
(b) "Bomb" means any explosive or incendiary device or molotov cocktail as defined in section 9-7-103, C.R.S. (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=540bb8550451e63696a70802d70f3d47&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-101%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=2&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%209-7-103&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzB-zSkAb&_md5=4ff8c0b2c92aa3ec16e03a5b2dc78714), or any chemical device which causes or can cause an explosion, which is not specifically designed for lawful and legitimate use in the hands of its possessor.
(b.5) "Bureau" means the Colorado bureau of investigation created in section 24-33.5-401, C.R.S. (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=540bb8550451e63696a70802d70f3d47&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-101%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=3&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2024-33.5-401&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzB-zSkAb&_md5=00772cb28057d358c5024d7e718c3cda)
(c) "Firearm silencer" means any instrument, attachment, weapon, or appliance for causing the firing of any gun, revolver, pistol, or other firearm to be silent or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any such weapon.
(d) "Gas gun" means a device designed for projecting gas-filled projectiles which release their contents after having been projected from the device and includes projectiles designed for use in such a device.
(e) "Gravity knife" means any knife that has a blade released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force.
(e.5) "Handgun" means a pistol, revolver, or other firearm of any description, loaded or unloaded, from which any shot, bullet, or other missile can be discharged, the length of the barrel of which, not including any revolving, detachable, or magazine breech, does not exceed twelve inches.
(e.7) "Juvenile" means any person under the age of eighteen years.
(f) "Knife" means any dagger, dirk, knife, or stiletto with a blade over three and one-half inches in length, or any other dangerous instrument capable of inflicting cutting, stabbing, or tearing wounds, but does not include a hunting or fishing knife carried for sports use. The issue that a knife is a hunting or fishing knife must be raised as an affirmative defense.
(g) "Machine gun" means any firearm, whatever its size and usual designation, that shoots automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.
(h) "Short rifle" means a rifle having a barrel less than sixteen inches long or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.
(i) "Short shotgun" means a shotgun having a barrel or barrels less than eighteen inches long or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.
(i.5) "Stun gun" means a device capable of temporarily immobilizing a person by the infliction of an electrical charge.
(j) "Switchblade knife" means any knife, the blade of which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in its handle.
(2) It shall be an affirmative defense to any provision of this article that the act was committed by a peace officer in the lawful discharge of his duties.
HISTORY: Source: L. 71: R&RE, p. 481, � 1. C.R.S. 1963: � 40-12-101 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=540bb8550451e63696a70802d70f3d47&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-101%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=4&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2040-12-101&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzB-zSkAb&_md5=70869383c18213045094debed16cde5a).L. 73: p. 540, � 12.L. 87: (1)(a) R&RE and (1)(a.5) and (1)(i.5) added, p. 674, � � 1, 2, effective May 16.L. 91: (1)(b) amended, p. 407, � 17, effective June 6.L. 93, 1st Ex. Sess.: (1)(a) amended and (1)(a.3), (1)(e.5), and (1)(e.7) added, p. 1, � 1, effective September 13.L. 2007: (1)(e) amended, p. 1688, � 6, effective July 1.L. 2013: (1)(b.5) added, (HB 13-1229), ch. 47, p. 137, � 6 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonLink?_m=540bb8550451e63696a70802d70f3d47&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-101%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=1&_butStat=0&_butNum=5&_butInline=1&_butinfo=LXE_2013_CO_ALS_47&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzB-zSkAb&_md5=1b6dc6a1e3932503aacbcb0663078163), effective March 20.
Editor's note: This title was numbered as chapter 40, C.R.S. 1963. The substantive provisions of this title were repealed and reenacted in 1971, resulting in the addition, relocation, and elimination of sections as well as subject matter. For amendments to this title prior to 1971, consult the Colorado statutory research explanatory note beginning on page vii in the front of this volume. For a detailed comparison of this title, see the comparative tables located in the back of the index.
Editor's note: This title was repealed and reenacted in 1971. For historical information concerning the repeal and reenactment, see the editor's note following the title heading.
Cross references: For affirmative defenses generally, see � � 18-1-407, 18-1-710, and 18-1-805.
ANNOTATION
Definition of "knife" in subsection (1)(f) is not void for vagueness or overbreadth. Where defendant possessed a screwdriver with specific intent to use it as a weapon, elements of crime defined in � 18-12-108 were present. People v. Gross, 830 P.2d 933 (Colo. 1992).
Defendant's intent to use an object as a weapon is not established by the object's appearance alone, even if the appearance demonstrates that its primary use is as a weapon; this test does not follow Gross and is contrary to the plain language of the concealed weapons statute. A.P.E. v. People, 20 P.3d 1179 (Colo. 2001).
The definition of "knife" in subsection (1)(f) is sufficiently specific to give fair warning of the proscribed conduct and is therefore constitutional. In applying the definition under � 18-12-108, the prosecution must prove that one of the intended uses of the instrument by the defendant was as a weapon. People v. Gross, 830 P.2d 933 (Colo. 1992).
As the term "knife" is not specifically defined in the deadly weapons statute, the meaning of "knife" anywhere it is used in this article is specifically limited by the definition contained in subsection (1)(f) regardless of cross reference to the broader deadly weapons statute. People ex rel. J.W.T., 93 P.3d 580 (Colo. App. 2004).
Applied in Miller v. District Court, 193 Colo. 404, 566 P.2d 1063 (1977).
Great-Kazoo
07-01-2016, 09:00
I believe black jacks are specifically listed as "illegal weapons" in Colorado statutes. Not sure about asps or batons though.
But as stated above, better to have and not need...
In Wyo a 1 armed man is allowed to carry a "auto opening knife" I "figure" as a disabled person, I will carry and use (If Needed) what ever means i have at my disposal. To stop a threat IF one ever confronted me.
As a side note. I was informed more than 1x by LE's IF they were to find an auto opening knife on a person. More than likely they would confiscate it and call it a day.
The demand for a man piss in the woman's rest room, along with overwhelming political support to do so. . There's sure as hell is some hungry attorney who would take my case.
There's sure as hell is some hungry attorney who would take my case.
Redundant. Sharks are always ready to eat. [LOL]
DireWolf
07-01-2016, 11:05
It would appear that ASP (or similar) batons are not covered/restricted by that statute (as far as I can tell anyway), and I believe they allow several benefits...
The smaller ones in particular are light, fast, precise, conceal easily, and act as a force multiplier. There are well over 200 individual sensitive striking points on the human body that I'm aware of (and likely many more that I'm not), some of which can potentially have deady force even with bare hands...the baton simply adds reach, speed (if proper body mechanics are applied), options (e.g. baton base can be used for disarm techniques), and a huge increase in amount of force which can be applied to a strike (e.g. a weapon-hand wrist-strike through clothing)...
Another nice thing (this was actually the consideration that originally got me thinking of carrying a baton for defensive use), is the ability to minimize potential contact with bodily fluids (blood, etc.)...For example, even a light strike to the face will oftentimes open someone up and get blood everywhere, so my thought is that being able to deliver concentrated blunt force through clothing (e.g. limb strikes) should help to minimize that while ending the threat as quickly as possible, and without excessive use of force...
My thoughts are that regardless of how it goes down, given the current political climate any non-firearm response will get less public outrage and media coverage than the alternative....In other words, if it looks like you're about to take incoming fire or overwhelming force, then fine - seek cover and return fire as appropriate...otherwise, I think other options are preferable....
Just my .02
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KevDen2005
07-01-2016, 11:34
My guess is the kind of people that conceal carry don't frequent the 16th street mall much- I know I'd be sick of it just finding parking.
This year has been the worst. After the parade of lights this year and I took my wife to the Nutcracker, I have just had it with the congestion downtown and the parking issues.
And I went downtown regularly enough, but I think I give off a vibe that indicates a bad day by messing with me.
KevDen2005
07-01-2016, 11:37
90% of the youth go down to LODO to try and practice their hip rotations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
Aloha_Shooter
07-01-2016, 11:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
I thought this would be more appropriate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltrMfT4Qz5Y
KevDen2005
07-01-2016, 11:56
I thought this would be more appropriate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltrMfT4Qz5Y
Well anything by K-Log is gotta be more appropriate
SamuraiCO
07-01-2016, 12:06
Not to worry the Mayor and his admin have the problem solvers on the case.
Not to worry the Mayor and his admin have the problem solvers on the case.
Before or after they go to the whorehouse?
What's the big deal? Just put up a "Pipe Free Zone" sign up and it will never happen again.
Before or after they go to the whorehouse?
Hey now, that never happened. Or at least it wasn't on DPD surveillance.
People hire attorneys all the time to see if they are on surveillance at whorehouses. It's perfectly normal. Really.
KevDen2005
07-01-2016, 13:13
What's the big deal? Just put up a "Pipe Free Zone" sign up and it will never happen again.
Brilliant!
What's the big deal? Just put up a "Pipe Free Zone" sign up and it will never happen again.
If you can't go to the mall to lay pipe, why go at all?
fportmen45
07-01-2016, 13:29
Another nice thing (this was actually the consideration that originally got me thinking of carrying a baton for defensive use), is the ability to minimize potential contact with bodily fluids (blood, etc.)...For example, even a light strike to the face will oftentimes open someone up and get blood everywhere, so my thought is that being able to deliver concentrated blunt force through clothing (e.g. limb strikes) should help to minimize that while ending the threat as quickly as possible, and without excessive use of force...
I trust you're familiar with blood spatter? That argument is akin to shooting to wound.
KevDen2005
07-01-2016, 13:29
If you can't go to the mall to lay pipe, why go at all?
Are you really gonna do this all day?
Are you really gonna do this all day?have you met stu? He's got a three day weekend planned around this.
have you met stu? He's got a three day weekend planned around this.
Just wait until the happy ending.
68Charger
07-01-2016, 14:27
If you can't go to the mall to lay pipe, why go at all?
Are you really gonna do this all day?
have you met stu? He's got a three day weekend planned around this.
Age is catching up with him, he probably can't lay pipe that long anymore....
Just wait until the happy ending.
Well... maybe with pharma help... (now just waiting for the comments that this is MY problem, not his) [Flower]
As long as people keep setting it up, someone has to do it.
http://www.volvoce.com/sitecollectionimages/VCE/Pictures%20and%20Videos/VCE%20Corporate/Not-just-a-pipe-dream_1_745x440.jpg
Alternative response: Are you telling me to pipe down?
Alternative response: Are you telling me to pipe down?
[LOL]
Great-Kazoo
07-01-2016, 17:26
Alternative response: Are you telling me to pipe down?
I'm reading it as, if you don't shut up. Someone's gonna put something around your neck and do it for you.
StagLefty
07-01-2016, 17:42
I'm reading it as, if you don't shut up. Someone's gonna put something around your neck and do it for you.
A bag of weed and drop him off at the mall ? [ROFL2]
Great-Kazoo
07-01-2016, 19:19
The sad thing is......
1: Video shows some twathead too busy eating his popcorn while a threat passes him.
#2 and this is an important one. Another member was on site (or so it reads to me) and went the other way. While it's their prerogative to do so. HOW can we say If a Good Guy with a Gun was There. When possibly there was a Good Guy with a Gun.
Sitting by while violent acts go unchecked is another reason we've gone so far down the shitter.
The sad thing is......
1: Video shows some twathead too busy eating his popcorn while a threat passes him.
[snip]
So if I see something like this in the LUU (Liberal Urban Utopia), grab some popcorn and Coke, you're going to call me a twathead?
I guess I've been called worse...
[Coffee]
Each person must face their own conscience and answer for their own actions and failure to act.
Do not let this thread deteriorate into name calling and recriminations.
At least in this case, no one was seriously injured and the suspect was arrested and has been charged with a crime.
Be safe.
Great-Kazoo
07-01-2016, 19:38
So if I see something like this in the LUU (Liberal Urban Utopia), grab some popcorn and Coke, you're going to call me a twathead?
I guess I've been called worse...
[Coffee]
Depends on your feed back ;)
Our member said when he exited the building he heard yelling only. Not an unusual occurrence on the mall.
For the record, I was joking with kazoo. I know that wasn't directed at anyone here.
hurley842002
07-01-2016, 21:04
#2 and this is an important one. Another member was on site (or so it reads to me) and went the other way. While it's their prerogative to do so. HOW can we say If a Good Guy with a Gun was There. When possibly there was a Good Guy with a Gun.
Sitting by while violent acts go unchecked is another reason we've gone so far down the shitter.
There was a time (likely since I've been on this earth), that I would have had no problem intervening to aid bystanders in whatever way I was justified. That time is no more, things have changed, both in this country and in my life. I'm now married with two precious little boys, I cannot afford the potential civil liability involved with defending folks who I don't know from Adam, it is THEIR choice to not prepare to defend themselves.
It's unfortunate that it has to be that way, but my family needs me and the little bit of money I have. The George Zimmerman debacle told me everything I need to know about justified lethal force.
Uberjager
07-01-2016, 21:32
The sad thing is......
1: Video shows some twathead too busy eating his popcorn while a threat passes him.
#2 and this is an important one. Another member was on site (or so it reads to me) and went the other way. While it's their prerogative to do so. HOW can we say If a Good Guy with a Gun was There. When possibly there was a Good Guy with a Gun.
Sitting by while violent acts go unchecked is another reason we've gone so far down the shitter.
I was that member; I was unarmed. What I saw at the time, would have merited at most a disorderly conduct charge. He was alone on that sidewalk triangle, which is bordered by Cleveland, 16th, and Broadway.
I miss the job I used to have, but I don't miss working at 17th & Curtis.
Old mountain Bell/US West /Qwest building? If so I worked there too. The parking sucked.
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Old mountain Bell/US West /Qwest building? If so I worked there too. The parking sucked.
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No, US Bank Tower across the street. We had a parking garage, but it's right on 16th and the dregs would go right in and hang out in there out of the weather, and smoke weed, and break into cars, all their normal activities.
kidicarus13
07-02-2016, 10:06
break into cars
Distribution of wealth
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