View Full Version : Another police shooting (With disturbing video)
BushMasterBoy
07-07-2016, 01:58
Guy with CCW permit shot by police during traffic stop. Girlfriend films him dying and puts it on internet . Of course, I don't know who to believe, but it will be interesting to watch to see how this story plays out.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-shooting-during-traffic-stop-leaves-minnesota-man-dead-family/
The youtube video is graphic and may not be suitable for some viewers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgtvop59kRI
Reynolds says in the video that an officer then shot her boyfriend four times.
The officer in the video, who appears to be very emotional, at one point screams, "I told him not to reach for it! I told him to get his hand out."
Reynolds, who is very composed, tells the officer, "You told him to get his I.D., sir, his driver's license."
She pans the cellphone camera over Castile, who is covered in blood.
"Oh my God, please don't tell me he's dead. Please don't tell me my boyfriend just went like that," Reynolds says.
The officer, whose gun is drawn the entire time, pointing into the open passenger side front window, tells Reynolds to, "Keep your hands where they are."
"Yes I will, sir, I'll keep my hands where they are," she assures him with his gun drawn.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-shooting-during-traffic-stop-leaves-minnesota-man-dead-family/ar-BBu1SnO?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
Very sad.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minn-cop-fatally-shoots-black-man-during-traffic-stop-aftermath-broadcast-on-facebook/ar-BBu22Up?li=BBnb7Kz
A Minnesota traffic stop turned deadly Wednesday evening as a police officer opened fire on a black driver.
Must have been written by a Brit. Steering wheel is on the left, the individual shot was in the right seat.
BladesNBarrels
07-07-2016, 07:52
I was wondering about that when I saw it multiple times on the CBS4 News.
Does the camera reverse the image?
SideShow Bob
07-07-2016, 08:00
Another very good reason why my ID & permit are in my left shirt pocket instead of in my wallet near my holster and firearm.
A very tragic incident, and the woman is so calm & composed considering the situation. Let's hope the officer had a body camera so the truth of what he said he told the person he shot to do before getting shot.
Does MN law requires you to inform upon contact about CHP?
SideShow Bob
07-07-2016, 08:30
According to the woman in the video, he did inform the officer prior to being asked for ID, then got shot....
Was he required to though?
Bailey Guns
07-07-2016, 09:34
Somehow that video is reversed. Unless the officers are all left-handed...and they wear their badges on the side opposite from everyone else. Not sure how that happened. Is it because it's in "selfie" mode?
Unfortunately the video picks up after the incident. I'm amazed at how calm she is. The officer at the window is obviously extremely distressed. Hard to say why this happened.
That's two in a week where the guy shot had a gun. Not that there's anything wrong with that assuming it's legal. Just really curious. Neither of them look good on the surface. It'll be interesting to hear other sides of both stories.
Zundfolge
07-07-2016, 09:42
Yet another dead gang banger that we're going to pretend is a law abiding good guy.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/
(http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/)
[MOD: You're precariously close to crossing a line here that we don't cross on this site. Without that link your response would actually be racist. Are we to trust MSM on his, but not on anything else?]
I'm amazed at how calm she is.
Clearly she's a devoted girlfriend that loves her boyfriend. That's why instead of trying to render aid, apply pressure to the wound and maybe save his life. No instead she shows her love by recording his death and lying about the events leading to the shooting for political reasons.
Coming soon to 1,375 news outlets near you:
"This is why citizens shouldn't have guns, because it leads to misunderstandings like this where they got shot."
O2
Clearly she's a devoted girlfriend that loves her boyfriend. That's why instead of trying to render aid, apply pressure to the wound and maybe save his life. No instead she shows her love by recording his death and lying about the events leading to the shooting for political reasons.
Being in shock can do strange things. And moving to help her boyfriend might get her shot too.
...but you're probably right.
O2
SouthPaw
07-07-2016, 09:58
Somehow that video is reversed. Unless the officers are all left-handed...and they wear their badges on the side opposite from everyone else. Not sure how that happened. Is it because it's in "selfie" mode?
Unfortunately the video picks up after the incident. I'm amazed at how calm she is. The officer at the window is obviously extremely distressed. Hard to say why this happened.
That's two in a week where the guy shot had a gun. Not that there's anything wrong with that assuming it's legal. Just really curious. Neither of them look good on the surface. It'll be interesting to hear other sides of both stories.
Video is probably reversed because she is using the camera on the front of the phone vs the back.
HoneyBadger
07-07-2016, 10:56
Yet another dead gang banger that we're going to pretend is a law abiding good guy.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/
(http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/)
Clearly she's a devoted girlfriend that loves her boyfriend. That's why instead of trying to render aid, apply pressure to the wound and maybe save his life. No instead she shows her love by recording his death and lying about the events leading to the shooting for political reasons.
Interesting indeed.. Too bad the video starts well after he'd been shot. Did the cops have body cameras? Sad story, but it is getting lots of attention.
Bailey Guns
07-07-2016, 11:00
Yet another dead gang banger that we're going to pretend is a law abiding good guy.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/
That's a pretty interesting link.
Bailey Guns
07-07-2016, 11:01
Of course, plenty of people, even some on this forum, will just use it as an excuse to bash the police. Doesn't take much and don't have to let the story play out before jumping to conclusions. Gotta love internet warriors.
Does MN law requires you to inform upon contact about CHP?
Only if they ask
[snip]
Unfortunately the video picks up after the incident. I'm amazed at how calm she is. The officer at the window is obviously extremely distressed. Hard to say why this happened.
[snip]
I do my best to reserve judgment. Everything these days is politicized so I don't think much happens by accident. A video that starts up leaving out key bits of info needed for rational review while providing plenty of opportunity for folks who are emotionally invested in a narrative is suspect to me.
Unfortunately the "system" is broken (e.g. Clinton) and even if it weren't there are too many useful idiots who wouldn't give it time to work.
Of course, plenty of people, even some on this forum, will just use it as an excuse to bash the police. Doesn't take much and don't have to let the story play out before jumping to conclusions. Gotta love internet warriors.
Yep. Funny though, I've always found most people who "bash the police" tend to not be the most law abiding folks and also tend to have a problem with authority in general.
funkymonkey1111
07-07-2016, 11:34
Yep. Funny though, I've always found most people who "bash the police" tend to not be the most law abiding folks and also tend to have a problem with authority in general.
here's one. i guess i'm "not the most law abiding folk" and "have a problem with authority"
HoneyBadger
07-07-2016, 11:45
here's one. i guess i'm "not the most law abiding folk" and "have a problem with authority"
As of last week (when the CA Governor signed several new bills into law) I'm also most certainly in the "not the most law abiding folk" bucket. And yes, I definitely "have a problem with authority". Especially when someone else's authority makes me a defacto criminal. I've only had one slightly negative interaction with police (and I wrote about it here. I got pulled over for allegedly not using a turn signal to change lanes, and then when I asked him to provide evidence, he wrote me a ticket for a broken windshield.... Oh well. I'm over it. [Dunno] )
I don't have a problem with cops, whites, blacks, women, gays, muslims, or (fill in the blank). I have a problem with bad people. There are bad people in just about every cross section of society. Sometimes even the most strenuous selection processes don't successfully weed them out (Navy SEALs for example). If we don't want others to judge all gun owners based on one bad individual's actions, then we certainly shouldn't blame all law enforcement officers for one individuals actions, whether it was intentionally malicious, or just a really bad fuck-up.
But HoneyBadger, that isn't any fun for the cop haters who expect the police to help them when they need it and ignore them when they're violating the law.
But HoneyBadger, that isn't any fun for the cop haters who expect the police to help them when they need it and ignore them when they're violating the law.
Yep. Sad but true. Oh, and let me clarify. My meaning behind people who have "a problem with authority", I was specifically referring to law enforcement officers regarding the authority part. As we have several people here as Baily pointed out who are quite the "cop haters". [facepalm]
A lot of videos start after the action, because before anything happened, there was nothing worth recording. When the recording started is not at all suspicious in my opinion.
trlcavscout
07-07-2016, 12:41
Yep. Funny though, I've always found most people who "bash the police" tend to not be the most law abiding folks and also tend to have a problem with authority in general.
Im not a cop basher, but some cops shouldn't be cops. That said, if he informed the officer he was legally carrying and the cop shot him do you still defend the officers actions? If LE has more footage and they release it it will answer all the questions, until then we dont know who was in the wrong. I obey the law as much as anyone else, no record other then a few traffic violations, no problem with authority. I dont argue with LE even when they are wrong, thats what court is for. But i have seen enough bad apples to have a healthy mistrust of officers.
I also believe "some" officers are the biggest hypocrites and law breakers around, not all, but some. Like the Greeley law where they can pull you over for eating or drinking if they deem it careless, yet i drive around the city daily seeing cops leaning over typing on their lap tops and eating while swerving into my lane then giving me dirty looks. Then they do 45 in a 35 only to turn into the 7-11 to get a big gulp. Lead by example.
GilpinGuy
07-07-2016, 13:41
The 10% rule. 10% of the population (at least) is a scumbag, regardless of their profession.
Bailey Guns
07-07-2016, 13:48
I'm suspicious of the whole incident. I posted this because it is so bizarre. I have a procedure for a traffic stop by police. I keep insurance & registration in a ziplock sandwich bag in the glove compartment. Drivers license in wallet stacked on top. By the time the cop gets to the car, I am ready to hand all 3 items over. I don't engage in any unnecessary conversation, talking is for the court room and not the street. 9 times out of ten, I will be driving away in a few minutes.
That sounds like a pretty reasonable procedure. I try not to get stopped in the first place, but shit happens.
Bailey Guns
07-07-2016, 13:50
I'm gonna place my bet on "there's a lot more to this story than what's in the video". That could mean the officer did something wrong or the dead guy did or both. I can't tell from the video.
I'm gonna place my bet on "there's a lot more to this story than what's in the video". That could mean the officer did something wrong or the dead guy did or both. I can't tell from the video.
That's how it always is with these things. There's a lot more going on than ANYONE can know. That's why it always irritates me when people are so quick to jump to conclusions when these kinds of things come out...there's always more evidence to be seen, and whether it was a horrible mistake by the cop, the driver, or both isn't apparent yet and won't be for some time, if ever.
Somewhere there is a room full of liberals that are going to try and twist this and blame these shootings on guns. "If the guy didn't have a gun he would not have been shot."
DavieD55
07-07-2016, 16:16
Im not a cop basher, but some cops shouldn't be cops. That said, if he informed the officer he was legally carrying and the cop shot him do you still defend the officers actions? If LE has more footage and they release it it will answer all the questions, until then we dont know who was in the wrong. I obey the law as much as anyone else, no record other then a few traffic violations, no problem with authority. I dont argue with LE even when they are wrong, thats what court is for. But i have seen enough bad apples to have a healthy mistrust of officers.
I also believe "some" officers are the biggest hypocrites and law breakers around, not all, but some. Like the Greeley law where they can pull you over for eating or drinking if they deem it careless, yet i drive around the city daily seeing cops leaning over typing on their lap tops and eating while swerving into my lane then giving me dirty looks. Then they do 45 in a 35 only to turn into the 7-11 to get a big gulp. Lead by example.
They've become a brotherhood and you're right and you wont get an argument from me. It is fucking bullshit what many of them (not all) are allowed to get away with. There are also a lot of corrupt bad apples in court rooms as well though. If they aren't taking their oaths and defending the Constitution seriously, I have no sympathy for them.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. All I know is I wasnt there and there's no where near enough evidence to know what happened at this point to even make a guess.
Didn't Hillary do something recently? I can't remember now that something else snatched our attention...SQUIRREL!
What happened to Zund's post? I was just about to ask how he can seriously buy any part of that article?
I'm gonna place my bet on "there's a lot more to this story than what's in the video". That could mean the officer did something wrong or the dead guy did or both. I can't tell from the video.
That's where I sit with this.
SideShow Bob
07-07-2016, 19:37
What happened to Zund's post? I was just about to ask how he can seriously buy any part of that article?
Are you refering to his post about "Another dead gangbanger" ? Post #10 ? It is still there for me...........
funkymonkey1111
07-07-2016, 19:39
SAF calls for independent investigation.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/07/07/second-amendment-foundation-calls-for-in
just a bunch of folks that aren't "the most law abiding" of "also tend to have a problem with authority in general." Or, perhaps the folks at the SAF aren't pro-state boot lickers.
Are you refering to his post about "Another dead gangbanger" ? Post #10 ? It is still there for me...........
Now it's back. Must have been getting tweaked right as was trying to quote.
Honey Badger282.8
07-07-2016, 19:56
What happened to Zund's post? I was just about to ask how he can seriously buy any part of that article?
The guy who runs that site is a well known troll apparently. He's made a career of making outrageous accusations that are many times false. That said, many of those pictures are straight from Castiles Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/philando.castile
Those pictures don't prove anything though. The second picture labled, "This proves he was a crip," where he was dressed in patterned shirt and flipping off the camera made me laugh out loud.
Zundfolge
07-08-2016, 22:44
Yet another dead gang banger that we're going to pretend is a law abiding good guy.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/
(http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/)
[MOD: You're precariously close to crossing a line here that we don't cross on this site. Without that link your response would actually be racist. Are we to trust MSM on his, but not on anything else?]
"Gangbanger" is not a racist term. There are gang members of all races.
At any rate, looks like he's not a CHL holder and wasn't pulled over for a busted tail light, he was pulled over because he matched the description of an armed robbery suspect.
http://www.kare11.com/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738
http://eastsidereviewnews.com/articles/2016/07/05/armed-robbers-hit-lauderdale-convenience-store
My point stands. Philando Castile is likely an armed criminal and NOT a law abiding citizen who was also very likely about to grab the gun in his lap and shoot a police officer, not politely reaching for his wallet to get his ID.
The guy who runs that site is a well known troll apparently. He's made a career of making outrageous accusations that are many times false.
Citation needed. He is indeed an outrageous troll and a muck-raker, but you're going to have to back up your claim that he's lying with some facts.
hurley842002
07-08-2016, 22:48
Another link with more info on Philando
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/
A video that starts up leaving out key bits of info needed for rational review while providing plenty of opportunity for folks who are emotionally invested in a narrative is suspect to me.
[snip]
Confirmed – Philando Castile Was an Armed Robbery Suspect – False Media Narrative Now Driving Cop Killings
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/confirmed-philando-castile-was-an-armed-robbery-suspect-false-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/
Reynolds claimed they were pulled over for a broken tail light, false.
Ms. Reynolds also claims her boyfriend, Castile, was holding a concealed carry permit for a firearm that was resting on his left thigh. This also appears to be false.
As expected, the Left won't give it time to figure out what really happened. They will seize on the incomplete facts in the video along with emotion and push. Just like Ferguson/Baltimore. Just like Zimmerman.
Could this still be a 100% bad shoot? You bet. But it certainly didn't go down the way the video made folks think it went down.
Bailey Guns
07-09-2016, 18:40
Yeah...I'm wearing my shocked face.
The authors of those articles are just as painfully stupid as the people who read that shit and think, "that's a good point."
People are calling the girlfriend a liar because she said they got pulled over for a taillight, but the report says the officer pulled him over as a possible suspect. That doesn't make the girlfriend a liar at all. It must take two, maybe even three brain cells to figure out that the officer sure as hell didn't pull them over and say, "Hello sir, the reason I pulled you over today is because I saw your wide nose and I wanted to check to see if you were the same guy that robbed a store recently." Can we pull our heads out of our asses for a few days on this one?
Bailey Guns
07-09-2016, 18:42
If he's a violent cop killing-robbing black man, I'd expect to see something more than misdemeanor traffic citations in 52 prior traffic stops where he walked or drove away with a pulse and not under arrest.
Like Micah X Johnson?
hollohas
07-09-2016, 19:05
They did report he had been pulled over by the police something like 52 times (which is abnormally high but does not indicate a criminal), cited for things like not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, once got his drivers license revoked and other citations for driving without insurance on an occasion.
Being pulled over 52 times not only sounds abnormal, it sounds like it could be harassment.
Either way, I agree, that is not criminal and doesn't give us any insight as to what happened when he was killed.
Okay, this is all kind of bullshit. Still waiting for real facts to come out, not being devils advocate here, but the pro-police headlines are no better than the BLM-headlines for accuracy right now.
From the information presented, he was not a "robbery suspect". The officer allegedly pulled him over because he had a wide nose like a robbery suspect a few days ago. That is it.
If someone in a red car robs a bank, and police pull over your red car a few days later, it doesn't make you a "bank robbery suspect". If you get pulled over because you have blond hair like a guy that robbed a gas station a few days ago, that doesn't make you a gas station robbery suspect. So why is this man a "robbery suspect"?
I haven't personally searched his criminal record, but it's been reported that he never had anything more than something like a misdemeanor traffic citation. They did report he had been pulled over by the police something like 52 times (which is abnormally high but does not indicate a criminal), cited for things like not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, once got his drivers license revoked and other citations for driving without insurance on an occasion. If he's a violent cop killing-robbing black man, I'd expect to see something more than misdemeanor traffic citations in 52 prior traffic stops where he walked or drove away with a pulse and not under arrest.
I'm not saying it's a good or bad shoot until all the facts come out, but the conservative spin is no better than the liberal on this one.
I didn't post it to parse the "robbery suspect" bit or say Castillo was guilty of anything. Just to show the taillight story was exactly that. Now the police officer may have lied and told her it was the taillight (they can and will do that), again I don't know. Still makes it a story that obscures the real reason for the stop.
Here is the pic in the story...
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/suspect-mn-4.jpg?w=330&h=283
Here's Castillo...
http://static.lakana.com/media.fox9.com/photo/2016/07/07/Philando%20Castilo%201%20_1467874502852_1519440_ve r1.0_640_360.jpg
I can't see the "robbery suspect's" nose in the first photo so I have no idea why the radio call references a nose. Maybe the officer had a different pic or video? I can see the hair, build, facial hair. I see the "suspect" has a weapon.
Castillo may have had nothing to do with that robbery. I don't know. But I do know they look a lot alike and looking alike is enough for a stop, correct? Has been for me in my formative years while being out way too late and up to no good (although not the no good of which I was suspected).
He doesn't have a significant criminal record (as you point out) and doesn't appear to be a prohibited person.
The narrative is/was "cops are hunting black men and gunning them down." The reality of this case is looking very different. Could be a good shoot/bad shoot, need more facts. But the facts we have indicate he wasn't gunned down in cold blood over a trivial matter like a taillight.
Bailey Guns
07-09-2016, 19:11
I don't necessarily disagree with the gist of what you're saying, Foxtrot. And I, too, am of the opinion that we need to let the investigation run it's course. My only disagreement is in saying the jump from little to no criminal history is not* unusual. We see it time and again. While it may not be as common as a hardened criminal doing something seriously stupid, people with no records are just as capable. And with the hate rhetoric and such from the BLM side it doesn't surprise me "normal" people are going over the edge. I firmly believe the left is far more culpable in this than the right. And I don't think any rational person can argue there isn't a leftist slant in the agenda-driven media.
ETA: And how many right on this forum practice "Army tactics" when they shoot? I'd venture to say a lot.
BushMasterBoy
07-09-2016, 19:20
Mainstream media acting as agent provocateur? They do have everything to gain from this continued violence and are protected by law. Sometimes conspiracy theory is correct and I highly doubt the FBI could ferret it out. Personally I am avoiding large crowds and herd mentality.
XC700116
07-09-2016, 19:22
I'm trying to stay out of this, but for some perspective on it, I'll throw this out there.
1. The robbery suspect thing is just like foxtrot says, the scanner transcripts clearly show the officer pulled him over in an attempt to ID him as a POSSIBLE suspect for the aforementioned robbery. Which I kinda think is shady but also know it's pretty decent police work and fully expect that the occupants of the vehicle would be given whatever convenient excuse presented itself for the stop and a tail light being out is a perfect one. Lots of DUI's have been handed out in the same manner.
2. Having lived there in my late teens/early 20's and having a mother and step Father that live VERY close to the area this happened, I can tell you that North Minneapolis has been nearly a war zone this spring/summer only eclipsed by Chicago's antics. Cops there are probably exceptionally nervous for their personal safety on a day to day basis and it was only a matter of time. The BLM shitstorm has been brewing there for quite a while and the Governor is the Rich White version of Obummer, so he is more than happy to jump on the blame the police bandwagon, as well as BLM bandwagon.
Just a couple things to keep in perspective through the whole thing, It's a bad deal and I'd bet money, the violence has only just begun in North Minneapolis.
I'd wait for the police video before making any assumptions.
From the GF video, he appears to have a gun in his lap. Cop saw it and told him not to reach for it. He reached anyway. BOOM.
The ConservativeTreeHouse has posted some interesting perspectives on this shoot:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/12/higher-resolution-images-show-philando-castile-handgun-at-scene-of-shooting/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/13/philando-castile-wallet-positioned-underneath-visible-hand-gun/
PugnacAutMortem
07-14-2016, 16:01
Here's a couple questions for any of those with LE training:
Let's take the situation as it has generally been described...Officer pulls over Castile, Castile discloses he has a concealed weapon. At this point as the LE, are you drawing your weapon? Are you aiming your weapon at him at any point from Castile disclosing to saying he's reaching for his license? Is there a protocol to follow when someone discloses to disarm them to continue the interaction?
Here's a couple questions for any of those with LE training:
Let's take the situation as it has generally been described...Officer pulls over Castile, Castile discloses he has a concealed weapon. At this point as the LE, are you drawing your weapon? Are you aiming your weapon at him at any point from Castile disclosing to saying he's reaching for his license? Is there a protocol to follow when someone discloses to disarm them to continue the interaction?
Officer pulls over Castile. Why does the officer make the traffic stop? The question is relevant because it shows some of the knowledge the officer has and doesn't have at the beginning of the contact. This will color the way the officer perceives the contact.
Are you drawing your weapon? Drawing your weapon is not prohibited but considered an indication that you may imminently need the weapon. If you wait until shots are fired before you draw, you are probably behind the curve and that is not a mistake most officers willingly make. I would speculate that the officer drawing his weapon indicates that he believes there is more going on than just the announcement that the driver is armed. This is just speculation, but it is possible the officer believed the driver may have been involved in an armed robbery and the driver's disclosure about being armed may have been perceived as a threat or may have had no additional impact other than to confirm the officer's suspicion that the driver was armed.
Are you aiming your weapon at him? This one is both simple and complex: The simple answer is you aim your weapon at what you perceive as the biggest threat. The complex question is why did the officer perceive Castile as a threat? I don't know the answer and since the video doesn't show that part of the contact, any answer from anyone other than the officer will be speculation.
Is there a protocol to follow when someone discloses to disarm them to continue the interaction? I am not aware of a blanket protocol followed by any department or agency for disarming people who disclose that they are armed. I will offer that it is common to ask where the firearm is located after the disclosure, but any answer given will be taken with a grain of salt as people have been known to lie to the police, and the police have been known to lie to the people. Other than a few very rare and talented people, almost no one can use other parts of their body to effectively wield a firearm, so most officers will pay very close attention to people's hands. Sometimes this can become tunnel vision and the things you aren't watching, such as the other people in the car or random bystanders can then present a danger. My preference was to assume everyone is armed regardless of what they say or don't say. If no weapons appear in anyone's hands, I consider that a pretty safe contact.
This incident was tragic. I am glad video was taken and hope that at some point we may get to see some of the other video from the dash cam or other sources if they are available. As a non-involved citizen, I have little recourse but to trust that the truth in some format will become known and that the justice system with all of it's weaknesses and faults will provide some resolution for most of us. There are those who will never be able to move past this incident and there are those who will take full advantage of this incident to make whatever political points they may. It has always been this way and I don't expect it will change much in my lifetime.
Be safe.
I believe their weapons would of already been out seeing is they assumed Castile was a robber therefor making this a felony traffic stop.
As a side note this may make people think about where there carry weapon is in relation to their wallet, but more then that, it's not hard to pull your wallet etc in advance before coming to a stop (something the victim should have done). The victim probably wouldn't have been shot if his wallet and gun were not in proximity, no question about that.
I've recommended, where possible, to have put your ID and CCW permit somewhere readily available, and if lights are behind you, pull them from your wallet as you start to decelerate, and then roll down or crack your window (your choice), holding both just barely outside the window with your other hand on the steering wheel. This way you reach for nothing and the LEO can verify you actually have a CCW without having to rely on your word. (note: Colorado does not require notification to LEO, some states do)
MN doesn't require notification either.
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