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O2HeN2
07-12-2016, 10:11
Just received this email:

From: Kickstarter <news@e.kickstarter.com>

The tragedies that took place in Baton Rouge, Minnesota, and Dallas last week were heartbreaking, and infuriating. Painfully, they are not events isolated to this moment. Racial inequality is systemic, racial prejudice is pervasive, and racial injustice is overwhelming. The unbearable atrocities they precipitate are far too frequent.

But that truth is not inevitable. Speaking up matters. Standing together matters. Peace and understanding and common purpose matter. We stand with #BlackLivesMatter, and with the friends and families of all those affected by these tragedies.

Please learn more and get involved here.

O2HeN2
07-12-2016, 10:13
What I can't figure out is why an organization that condones and promotes cop-killing hits the big time once it succeeds in getting cops killed in a spectacular manner?

Critical thinking is dead. Long live critical thinking.

O2

roberth
07-12-2016, 10:26
I wonder if these companies are getting threats if they don't get on board with the #blm racists...or maybe they're just being good little idiots.

Skip
07-12-2016, 10:26
What I can't figure out is why an organization that condones and promotes cop-killing hits the big time once it succeeds in getting cops killed in a spectacular manner?

Critical thinking is dead. Long live critical thinking.

O2

Violence only delegitimizes "conservatives" and "patriots." It empowers Liberals. Sometimes they have to lie and hide affiliations but it's been this way frequently in history.

I think Mao said something profound about that once.

Wonder why they want our guns? Wonder no more...

hurley842002
07-12-2016, 10:28
Don't even know who/what kickstarter is, guess that's a good thing.

O2HeN2
07-12-2016, 11:55
Don't even know who/what kickstarter is, guess that's a good thing.
It's a crowdfunding site.

Successful projects I've backed:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1454687729/prosounds-m-series-electronic-muffs
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alpinelabs/pulse-your-camera-upgraded
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/veritasium/snatoms-the-magnetic-molecular-modeling-kit
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epiloguepress/ep1-flatland

The most important project I backed never made it to its goal:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/billyjohnson/protecting-liberty

O2

Delfuego
07-12-2016, 12:02
What I can't figure out is why an organization that condones and promotes cop-killing hits the big time once it succeeds in getting cops killed in a spectacular manner?I must have missed the press release for this. When exactly did they endorse this?

roberth
07-12-2016, 12:33
Kickstarter website statement on the Kickstarter blog - https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/black-lives-matter

Jesse and Al probably got paid off too.

jslo
07-12-2016, 12:38
BLM organized March chants:
"What do we want? Dead cops.
"When do we want it? Now"

"Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon"

O2HeN2
07-12-2016, 12:51
I must have missed the press release for this. When exactly did they endorse this?
jslo, above, nailed it. You can dismiss a few people in any organization as whack jobs and not representing the organization as a whole (unless you're a liberal talking about the NRA), but when an entire crowd representing your organization is calling for cop killings, well, that's something different altogether:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws

Q: Have you heard the organization denounce this position?

O2

Delfuego
07-12-2016, 13:48
You can dismiss a few people in any organization as whack jobs and not representing the organization as a whole (unless you're a liberal talking about the NRA)You don't want all gun owners / 2a supporters to be lumped together, then don't lump other people together.

They are hardly an "Organization" either. It is a loose affiliation at best. People are responding to FB & twitter and showing up somewhere to protest or march. Some are pissed off and shout shit, some are frustrated with police in their neighborhood. I don't believe they were handed lyric sheets before the march. Nor do I believe there is a proper organizational hierarchy promoting the murder of policemen and women.

brutal
07-12-2016, 16:02
You don't want all gun owners / 2a supporters to be lumped together, then don't lump other people together.

They are hardly an "Organization" either. It is a loose affiliation at best. People are responding to FB & twitter and showing up somewhere to protest or march. Some are pissed off and shout shit, some are frustrated with police in their neighborhood. I don't believe they were handed lyric sheets before the march. Nor do I believe there is a proper organizational hierarchy promoting the murder of policemen and women.

As I saw and heard myself on The Kelly File last night, a leader in BLM on the panel called for the defunding and disbanding of all PD and said it should be left to the community to police themselves.

Because we all know how well inner city community self-policing is working.

jslo
07-12-2016, 16:09
You don't want all gun owners / 2a supporters to be lumped together, then don't lump other people together.

They are hardly an "Organization" either. It is a loose affiliation at best. People are responding to FB & twitter and showing up somewhere to protest or march. Some are pissed off and shout shit, some are frustrated with police in their neighborhood. I don't believe they were handed lyric sheets before the march. Nor do I believe there is a proper organizational hierarchy promoting the murder of policemen and women.

Seriously? This is a joke, right? You been away for the last couple years?

Skip
07-12-2016, 16:18
As I saw and heard myself on The Kelly File last night, a leader in BLM on the panel called for the defunding and disbanding of all PD and said it should be left to the community to police themselves.

Because we all know how well inner city community self-policing is working.

Is this a bad idea? Of course I personally don't like it and think it will get a lot of innocent people hurt/killed but this isn't about me. The Ferguson Effect is pushing it this way anyway.

If black leadership doesn't want the consequences of community policing/law enforcement, maybe they should do it themselves. If the officers are all black maybe there would be less racial tension in communities?

And if didn't work (I don't think it would) maybe they regain some respect for LE and we move back to community policing without race standards (i.e. requiring all officers to be a certain background for certain communities).

It would be up to them compare which system better protected black folks and in which system black lives mattered.

Nuts?

jslo
07-12-2016, 16:28
[Sarcasm2]We just got the right to pee with the girls and now you want to go back to segregation?

brutal
07-12-2016, 16:49
Is this a bad idea? Of course I personally don't like it and think it will get a lot of innocent people hurt/killed but this isn't about me. The Ferguson Effect is pushing it this way anyway.

If black leadership doesn't want the consequences of community policing/law enforcement, maybe they should do it themselves. If the officers are all black maybe there would be less racial tension in communities?

And if didn't work (I don't think it would) maybe they regain some respect for LE and we move back to community policing without race standards (i.e. requiring all officers to be a certain background for certain communities).

It would be up to them compare which system better protected black folks and in which system black lives mattered.

Nuts?

If I have 100% constitutional carry and can fly with my gun, sure, they can police themselves till the cows come home. After all, they've done such a great job of governing themselves by virtue of whom they elect to represent their communities.

This may have already been said, but the Law enforcement community is a reflection of society, and there will be racists, assholes, and crooks. Do we need to police the ranks? Certainly. However, that's not to say that local PD should be disbanded and the natives left to fend for themselves. can you imagine the chaos? Supreme leader would like this, he could declare martial law and retain the throne.

Skip
07-12-2016, 17:07
If I have 100% constitutional carry and can fly with my gun, sure, they can police themselves till the cows come home. After all, they've done such a great job of governing themselves by virtue of whom they elect to represent their communities.

This may have already been said, but the Law enforcement community is a reflection of society, and there will be racists, assholes, and crooks. Do we need to police the ranks? Certainly. However, that's not to say that local PD should be disbanded and the natives left to fend for themselves. can you imagine the chaos? Supreme leader would like this, he could declare martial law and retain the throne.

Absolutely agreed on the exceptions in LE. Those exceptions have been elevated and what people are saying they no longer accept the "risks" of community policing (violent crime = some dead violent criminals).

I can imagine the chaos in those communities, sure. I can imagine the contrast with other communities too. Like I said, this is the way it's going anyway but with the ability to blame others for these outcomes and thus nothing changes because there is no accountability.

Baltimore was one such example. 60% minority department, minority officers involved (including the most serious 2nd degree homicide charge), black DA, black mayor, black US Attorney General, black President = white power structure. The DA even wrote the memo to profile people with record like Freddie Gray and get them "off the streets." But somehow cops, and "white" cops in particular own that?

If black leadership takes charge they have no one to blame. Maybe we can get beyond identity politics then? Even if more black youths were killed by cops, as long as they're black cops, maybe there'd be less strife?

crays
07-12-2016, 17:33
Perhaps we can defund entitlement programs, as well. As per their logic: Who better to take care of their own community than themselves.

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Buff
07-12-2016, 17:36
BLM.........................Bureau of Land Management :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Aloha_Shooter
07-12-2016, 18:16
Just got my copy of their email and responded:

I have enjoyed my participation in Kickstarters but I guess that has come to an end. I am extremely disturbed that Kickstarter is pushing anything political but even moreso that you have chosen to support a racist and Marxist campaign that ignores and distorts the truth to fracture American society and persecute innocent cops like Darren Wilson. The falsehoods perpetrated by Black Lives Matter are destroying our society and ironically hurting African-Americans disproportionately.

Truth matters. Law and order matter. It is incredibly ironic that you send out this email and echo it on Facebook on the heels of a domestic terrorist slaughtering cops in Dallas based on the lies spread and repeated by BLM all the while citing Dallas as a one of the reasons for doing so.

I will wait for completion and delivery of the Kickstarters I have pledged to but won't bother with any more. Thanks for saving me money with this inanity.

jslo
07-12-2016, 18:41
[Beer] Well said [Beer]

brutal
07-12-2016, 19:57
Perhaps we can defund entitlement programs, as well. As per their logic: Who better to take cater of their own community than themselves.

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buffalobo
07-12-2016, 21:31
Perhaps we can defund entitlement programs, as well. As per their logic: Who better to take care of their own community than themselves.

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This^^^


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Skip
07-13-2016, 09:21
Perhaps we can defund entitlement programs, as well. As per their logic: Who better to take care of their own community than themselves.

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This is where it would have to go.

HoneyBadger
07-13-2016, 11:15
Can't get the video to embed at a specific time, but either fast forward to 24:42 or just click the full link here: https://youtu.be/kMrZA81Y--w?t=1482 Just watch about 30 seconds or so for the best answer he could have possibly given to the question.

kMrZA81Y--w



Edit: Here's a trimmed version that captures his response:
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brutal
07-13-2016, 18:49
As I saw and heard myself on The Kelly File last night, a leader in BLM on the panel called for the defunding and disbanding of all PD and said it should be left to the community to police themselves.

Because we all know how well inner city community self-policing is working.

Correction. She said, "We need to abolish the Police, period.", "Demilitarize the police, and disarm the police."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9YzC67yijo

crashdown
07-13-2016, 20:13
She is an idiot, but she is also a complete nobody.
Fox New might be all the right has, but they are bringing on people as gun experts, community activists, etc, that are anything but.
This woman doesn't appear to be much more than a Facebook commentator.

ANADRILL
07-13-2016, 21:22
Black lives

Skip
07-14-2016, 12:10
She is an idiot, but she is also a complete nobody.
Fox New might be all the right has, but they are bringing on people as gun experts, community activists, etc, that are anything but.
This woman doesn't appear to be much more than a Facebook commentator.

Here is a voice of reason that is connecting all the dots. I suspect his opinion will not get much attention.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZqqb1IEFrM

crays
07-14-2016, 12:38
This^^^


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Thanks lobo [Beer]