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The spouse and I went to the Ogden last night. We hadn't been there in about a year, and they had a large security presence. They patted my hubby down, and checked my purse. They didn't pat me down.
We went to the Fillmore last year and they patted us both down and did a purse check.
The Summit Music Hall doesn't do that.
Has anyone else been to any venues lately? Are more places doing pat-downs?
DenverGP
07-14-2016, 14:45
Related question, anyone know about pat-downs at the Boulder Theater?
Looks like things are changing.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/07/15/concert-promoter-adds-metal-detectors-at-5-denver-music-venues/
Good thing I wasn't patted down last night in Louisville.....
Looks like things are changing.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/07/15/concert-promoter-adds-metal-detectors-at-5-denver-music-venues/
Good to know! Thanks.
If Argus is running security, which they do at Ogden, Fillmore, and many others, including Red Rocks. My advice, I wouldn't CCW in a concert venue that's that packed... Retention gets difficult when you're among a large crowd. YMMV.
DenverGP
07-20-2016, 14:38
Any time I carry at a concert or other crowded event, it's AIWB, so retention hasn't ever been an issue. The shows I attend are an older crowd, not the mosh-pit style stuff.
Just a reminder, CO law states that privately owned venues and anywhere that has a screening process can restrict items like firearms.
Chief_of_Scouts
08-21-2016, 07:34
Just a reminder, CO law states that privately owned venues and anywhere that has a screening process can restrict items like firearms.
Well thank goodness, I would hate to get shot at a concert. [/s]
hurley842002
08-21-2016, 07:35
Well thank goodness, I would hate to get shot at a concert. [/s]
Lol
Looks like things are changing.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/07/15/concert-promoter-adds-metal-detectors-at-5-denver-music-venues/
Disarming lawful CHP holders is going to make people more safe from a targeted terrorist attack?
[facepalm]
EvilRhino
08-21-2016, 18:40
A lot of times it depends on the artist from what I've seen. I went to KBPI birthday bash around 98 with Megadeth and had to take the chain off my wallet. ( I used to ride motorcycles a lot and the chain helped not lose the wallet). I went a few years later to see Flogging Molly at a friends request and I could've smuggled a bazooka in, no pat down, etc. Same with the Filmore. Saw Staind, Muddle of Pudd, and ...1 other I can't remember. Full pat down. Same chick, Flogging Molly, coulda smuggled another bazooka.
All of this was about 10+ years ago so YMMV
DenverGP
09-16-2016, 00:40
I went into the enemy territory of Boulder tonight for the Tab Benoit concert at the Boulder Theater. Was pocket carrying my wife's M&P Shield in a remora holster. The employees at the door couldn't care less, no pat down, no check of my wife's purse, etc. I could have carried my 1911 OWB and I don't think they would have noticed. Great show, will definitely see more shows at that theater.
Had dinner before the show at the Bohemian Biergarten in downtown Boulder. Some great beers, and some very tasty sausages (Buffalo, antelope, wild boar and elk). Saw a woman at the table next to us keep adjusting her shirt in the back. Wife commented that it looked like someone new to CCW who constantly thinks their gun is showing. Sure enough, at one point as she was adjusting, I spotted a pair of IWB holster clips. And she looked like a boulderite, had a backpack with her, didn't seem like someone just in town for the show.
I went into the enemy territory of Boulder tonight for the Tab Benoit concert at the Boulder Theater. Was pocket carrying my wife's M&P Shield in a remora holster. The employees at the door couldn't care less, no pat down, no check of my wife's purse, etc. I could have carried my 1911 OWB and I don't think they would have noticed. Great show, will definitely see more shows at that theater.
Had dinner before the show at the Bohemian Biergarten in downtown Boulder. Some great beers, and some very tasty sausages (Buffalo, antelope, wild boar and elk). Saw a woman at the table next to us keep adjusting her shirt in the back. Wife commented that it looked like someone new to CCW who constantly thinks their gun is showing. Sure enough, at one point as she was adjusting, I spotted a pair of IWB holster clips. And she looked like a boulderite, had a backpack with her, didn't seem like someone just in town for the show.
What'd ya think of Samantha? I'ma gonna be there tonight at The Gothic in E'wood. Huge SFB fan here, not that familiar with Tab yet but warming up real quick-like. I'm sure tonight's gonna seal the deal.
DenverGP
09-16-2016, 13:56
I personally think Tab is the best blues guitar out there right now... he puts on a great show too.
Samantha Fish was awesome, very wide variety of styles, although the sound board had the instruments overpowering her voice in most of her set. I already had a few of her albums, picked up her latest one at the show.
I went into the enemy territory of Boulder tonight for the Tab Benoit concert at the Boulder Theater. Was pocket carrying my wife's M&P Shield in a remora holster. The employees at the door couldn't care less, no pat down, no check of my wife's purse, etc. I could have carried my 1911 OWB and I don't think they would have noticed. Great show, will definitely see more shows at that theater.
Had dinner before the show at the Bohemian Biergarten in downtown Boulder. Some great beers, and some very tasty sausages (Buffalo, antelope, wild boar and elk). Saw a woman at the table next to us keep adjusting her shirt in the back. Wife commented that it looked like someone new to CCW who constantly thinks their gun is showing. Sure enough, at one point as she was adjusting, I spotted a pair of IWB holster clips. And she looked like a boulderite, had a backpack with her, didn't seem like someone just in town for the show.
Yep, been to many shows at The Boulder Theater and have never been checked for anything.. And the Biergarten has some awesome beers and brats!
I went into the enemy territory of Boulder tonight for the Tab Benoit concert at the Boulder Theater. Was pocket carrying my wife's M&P Shield in a remora holster. The employees at the door couldn't care less, no pat down, no check of my wife's purse, etc. I could have carried my 1911 OWB and I don't think they would have noticed. Great show, will definitely see more shows at that theater.
Had dinner before the show at the Bohemian Biergarten in downtown Boulder. Some great beers, and some very tasty sausages (Buffalo, antelope, wild boar and elk). Saw a woman at the table next to us keep adjusting her shirt in the back. Wife commented that it looked like someone new to CCW who constantly thinks their gun is showing. Sure enough, at one point as she was adjusting, I spotted a pair of IWB holster clips. And she looked like a boulderite, had a backpack with her, didn't seem like someone just in town for the show.
Ok, next time we gotta go to Boulder. I heard they have SEATING there, The Gothic was friggin' standing only. Too damn old for that, had to leave early.
DenverGP
09-17-2016, 07:53
Yeah, I specifically picked Boulder Theater and picked balcony because I knew there were assigned seats up there. On the floor, it was hard to tell when buying the tickets if it would be seating, but the entire place was seats... For the floor level seats, I think only the first couple sections closest to the stage were assigned seats, behind that was general admission, but all sections were filled with seats just not assigned. Was surprised that there wasn't at least a couple standing room / dance floor sections.
I've carried into the DCPA for a few shows the wife and I have seen. Didn't carry to Book of Mormon (although I could have- no pat downs or anything).
.455_Hunter
09-21-2016, 12:25
I think that if ANY private property owner wants to prohibit lawful carry inside their venue, they must do the following:
- comprehensive security screening for ALL entrants, including VIP and roadies/deliveries coming in the back.
- must hire a minimum standardized number of ARMED security (or LEO) to be present inside the facility.
- acceptance of full liability for any security related incident.
- must provide secure storage for patrons weapons while they are attending the event.
hurley842002
09-21-2016, 12:34
I think that if ANY private property owner wants to prohibit lawful carry inside their venue, they must do the following:
- comprehensive security screening for ALL entrants, including VIP and roadies/deliveries coming in the back.
- must hire a minimum standardized number of ARMED security (or LEO) to be present inside the facility.
- acceptance of full liability for any security related incident.
- must provide secure storage for patrons weapons while they are attending the event.
OR... a more cost effective and easier way to go about business, CCW carriers could just choose to not patronize such venues....
I think that if ANY private property owner wants to prohibit lawful carry inside their venue, they must do the following:
- comprehensive security screening for ALL entrants, including VIP and roadies/deliveries coming in the back.
- must hire a minimum standardized number of ARMED security (or LEO) to be present inside the facility.
- acceptance of full liability for any security related incident.
- must provide secure storage for patrons weapons while they are attending the event.
All of that is unreasonable. Very anti-freedom and anti-business.
.455_Hunter
09-22-2016, 00:06
All of that is unreasonable. Very anti-freedom and anti-business.
I think we have hashed this out before, but I would add the qualifier of "open to the general public with or without admission fees or tickets" to differentiate a business like Lockheed Martin from the Fillmore.
How is this anti-freedom or anti-business? There is no extra cost if the venue would just accept lawful carry like Walmart or Applebee's. What is so fundamentally different about being at a concert or game that legally armed patrons are suddenly a threat? And unlike the whole gay cake debate, lawful concealed carry is completely transparent to the nature of business transaction at hand (ie entertainment). Should a Christian bakery be able to decline support to a gay wedding? - Yes. Should a Muslim bakery be able to decline support to a Bar Mitzvah? - Yes. Should a men's clothing store be able to decline support of fitting a custom suit around a carry rig? - Yes. Should a men's clothing store be able to decline my purchase of a tie just because I have a 642 in my pocket? No, because the 642 has no bearing on the transaction taking place and does not matter.
.455_Hunter
09-22-2016, 00:12
OR... a more cost effective and easier way to go about business, CCW carriers could just choose to not patronize such venues....
That works unless it is something you want to patronize.
I have no sympathy for the right of "private property" owners to restrict lawful carry when their property is anything but "private" and open to the public on a daily basis.
Difficult for me to verbalize this early in the morning, but basically if the government has no duty to provide direct protection of people in public places, why should private businesses have to either? Especially during times when statistically, crime is less likely happen than "no crime." Having an armed patron in a business, is not the same as armed security, so why the requirement of armed security in the absence of armed patrons? Anti-business because those requirements would kill business. Anti-freedom because who wants to feel like they're at the court house everywhere they go?
.455_Hunter
09-22-2016, 07:46
The entire goal of such requirements would be to make compliance so onerous and expensive that only truly legitimate events would warrant denial of lawful concealed carry by patrons. Want to make your life easier as a businesses owner? Then don't adopt "feel good" anti-carry policies. Really the only things extra a venue like Mile High or the Pepsi Center would have to do is ensure 100% screening and add secure patron weapon storage- they are already paying for check points and reasonably sufficient armed security.
I'm not for making "compliance so onerous and expensive," for anything. It should be easy to follow the law.
25-years from now when guns are finally banned, we'll be having this same conversation about personal protection dogs. We could apply that conversation now actually.
.455_Hunter
09-22-2016, 09:17
I am completely supportive of making it "onerous and expensive" to restrict the rights of citizens.
cfortune
09-30-2016, 18:40
To the OP's question, I frequent shows around the metro area. Oddly enough, the death/black metal scene doesn't attract a lot of security pat-downs. So it rarely is something I run into at The Summiy, Marquis, Gothic, etc.
Seeing Megadeth tomorrow night at the first bank center and I'm guessing that is going to be a bit of a different story.
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To the OP's question, I frequent shows around the metro area. Oddly enough, the death/black metal scene doesn't attract a lot of security pat-downs. So it rarely is something I run into at The Summiy, Marquis, Gothic, etc.
Seeing Megadeth tomorrow night at the first bank center and I'm guessing that is going to be a bit of a different story.
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That observation is spot-on; the shows we were seeing were not of the death/doom metal variety when we were screened. The other metal shows we attended were no problem.
Let us know about the show- both security and how it was!
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