View Full Version : All officers in Freddie Gray case cleared
speedysst
07-27-2016, 10:49
All charges have been dropped in the Freddie Gray case: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/27/all-charges-dropped-in-freddie-gray-case-no-convictions.html. Well, well, well, funny how things work out when the truth is allowed to be told.
HoneyBadger
07-27-2016, 11:09
Just in time to distract angry Berners from Hillary's coronation!
...Convenient. [facepalm]
KestrelBike
07-27-2016, 11:57
Just in time to distract angry Berners from Hillary's coronation!
...Convenient. [facepalm]
I don't think it'll get too much play because it just makes baltimore and their state's attorney mosby look worse. On the other hand, it'd definitely be the (D) playbook to throw mosby to the wolves and try to start s*** to distract, soooo.
I think it was pure coincidence that this case and the convention came together like they did. I'm sure NONE of the communists thought their hand-picked judge would rule for the officers.
Great-Kazoo
07-27-2016, 14:09
The best item of discussion are the comments.
There's the usual SJW's ranting how. THERE SHOULD BE SOME REPERCUSSION FOR THE OFFICERS ACTS. To which one person has replied. Just Like Hillary, right?
Bailey Guns
07-27-2016, 15:21
On the other hand, it'd definitely be the (D) playbook to throw mosby to the wolves and try to start s*** to distract, soooo.
Disagree. In the (D) playbook, Moseby gets nominated to be AG in the Clinton Administration. The incompetents always rise to the top in the (D) party.
BushMasterBoy
07-27-2016, 15:24
And John Hinckley is to be freed...
KestrelBike
07-27-2016, 17:39
Disagree. In the (D) playbook, Moseby gets nominated to be AG in the Clinton Administration. The incompetents always rise to the top in the (D) party.
Oh shi.. lynch gets catapulted straight into the supreme court??
And John Hinckley is to be freed...
Well, it isn't like he killed anybody.
Well, it isn't like he killed anybody.
That's some funny stuff, right there.
In a dark and twisted way.😎
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Aloha_Shooter
07-27-2016, 18:43
I would donate to a fund for the officers in question to sue Moseby for malicious prosecution. That political grandstander should pay for ruining so many peoples' lives.
Oh she's going to pay.. Her career is done, along with her husbands
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BPTactical
07-27-2016, 20:30
Well, it isn't like he killed anybody.
No, but that fucks actions precipitated more changes to our 2A rights than the Valentines Day Massacre.
jhood001
07-27-2016, 23:05
I've watched the video of his arrest and placement into the paddy a few times. I don't understand how a suspect with basic injuries from a resisted arrest ends up dead after being placed in a vehicle for transport.... But I'm not a medical professional. My opinion equals 0.
I'm curious why so many others (who I assume also lack a credential in the realm of medicine) can weigh in as to why this verdict is either good or bad.
And to just be clear... I'm not trying to wreck your political or world view. I just want to know why this case matters to anyone... Unless the reaction by certain 'communities' in response to this guys death is contrary to your beliefs.
Dude was arrested. Dude received an injury that killed him during the course of arrest and transport. Dude is dead. People got pissed that dude is dead.
Why does this matter? Why are we discussing it here? Why is at least one post celebrating this verdict as 'GREAT news'?
I'm definitely missing something. Please educate me.
BushMasterBoy
07-27-2016, 23:09
I think it is like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg58d8opQKA
Aloha_Shooter
07-28-2016, 00:12
I've watched the video of his arrest and placement into the paddy a few times. I don't understand how a suspect with basic injuries from a resisted arrest ends up dead after being placed in a vehicle for transport.... But I'm not a medical professional. My opinion equals 0.
Bounce yourself around inside a metal box with your arms bound. IIRC, one of the other prisoners in the truck said Gray was doing this himself purposefully. I presume he did this out of pure anger or to create enough of a ruckus that they'd stop and he could argue with them some more. Either way, you bounce yourself around like that and you're liable to crack your head or your neck -- presto, fatal injury, especially if you already have a prior injury to the neck or spine as Gray did.
I'm curious why so many others (who I assume also lack a credential in the realm of medicine) can weigh in as to why this verdict is either good or bad.
And to just be clear... I'm not trying to wreck your political or world view. I just want to know why this case matters to anyone... Unless the reaction by certain 'communities' in response to this guys death is contrary to your beliefs.
Dude was arrested. Dude received an injury that killed him during the course of arrest and transport. Dude is dead. People got pissed that dude is dead.
Why does this matter? Why are we discussing it here? Why is at least one post celebrating this verdict as 'GREAT news'?
I'm definitely missing something. Please educate me.
Why do we weigh in? Because officers who were protecting the community -- doing their job FFS -- were railroaded by a grandstanding political wannabe. People who have sworn an oath to protect others like the many LEOs and current or former servicemembers on this board tend to take offense to that kind of situation. The fact charges were dismissed is great news because it means those officers can get on with their lives and get back to protecting the community. It means the judge (and at least one jury) recognized the truth, forcing this ass of a DA to drop her witch hunt. That's good news to many of us here. This case matters because activist groups would have pressed similar tactics nationwide if she had been successful in her persecution -- resulting in LEOs across the nation becoming vulnerable to these scurrilous charges and tactics from those who would tear down society.
hurley842002
07-28-2016, 00:29
Bounce yourself around inside a metal box with your arms bound. IIRC, one of the other prisoners in the truck said Gray was doing this himself purposefully. I presume he did this out of pure anger or to create enough of a ruckus that they'd stop and he could argue with them some more. Either way, you bounce yourself around like that and you're liable to crack your head or your neck -- presto, fatal injury, especially if you already have a prior injury to the neck or spine as Gray did.
Yup, and I've witnessed multiple times, both attention seekers, and legitimate crazies do extremely stupid things, in restraints and out of restraints. Sometimes attention seekers get more than they bargained for while begging for attention.
Actually for the six officers the only thing that is now over is the criminal portion of their ordeal. They may be subject to civil action by Gray's family and several of the six officers will be subject to administrative disciplinary action. I predict that a few of the officers will skip disciplinary action, up to and including termination, as they will just resign.
I've heard many times over the years how there just isn't any accountability for law enforcement or that cops aren't subjected to the same rules as everyone else. That is partially true. Most jobs don't have internal affairs along with civil liability for: not doing your job, and doing your job incorrectly, on top of criminal penalties for exceeding your authority. The same DA you depend on to prosecute your cases may one day be prosecuting you.
It is a hard profession to enter because of the competition and standards. It is an easy profession to lose your job. Are there bad cops? Yes, absolutely. The biggest victims of bad cops is other cops because bad cops make a tough job just about unbearable. Lots of pressures and temptations to take the easy way, but those are the ways to lose your job and maybe your freedom.
Lots of tough jobs out there. Law enforcement is not for everyone. If you've had a bad encounter with law enforcement, I apologize. Most of us try to provide good service with a humane attitude toward others. It isn't a popularity contest and if we are doing our job correctly there will be unhappy customers. We don't get dispatched to birthday parties and bar mitzvahs, at least not for the happy ones. Most of us are as happy to clear a scene, no report, as you are happy to see us go.
Be safe.
Disagree. In the (D) playbook, Moseby gets nominated to be AG in the Clinton Administration. The incompetents always rise to the top in the (D) party.
BG has it right unfortunately IMO.
Yeah, Bailey Guns speaks the truth. God help us if Hillary gets elected.
speedysst
07-28-2016, 11:59
I merely posted it because the officers were already sentenced by the media and politicians but in the end, were cleared. Im sick of the conviction before trial attitude we have when it comes to certain events.
I've watched the video of his arrest and placement into the paddy a few times. I don't understand how a suspect with basic injuries from a resisted arrest ends up dead after being placed in a vehicle for transport.... But I'm not a medical professional. My opinion equals 0.
I'm curious why so many others (who I assume also lack a credential in the realm of medicine) can weigh in as to why this verdict is either good or bad.
And to just be clear... I'm not trying to wreck your political or world view. I just want to know why this case matters to anyone... Unless the reaction by certain 'communities' in response to this guys death is contrary to your beliefs.
Dude was arrested. Dude received an injury that killed him during the course of arrest and transport. Dude is dead. People got pissed that dude is dead.
Why does this matter? Why are we discussing it here? Why is at least one post celebrating this verdict as 'GREAT news'?
I'm definitely missing something. Please educate me.
Actually for the six officers the only thing that is now over is the criminal portion of their ordeal. They may be subject to civil action by Gray's family and several of the six officers will be subject to administrative disciplinary action. I predict that a few of the officers will skip disciplinary action, up to and including termination, as they will just resign.
I've heard many times over the years how there just isn't any accountability for law enforcement or that cops aren't subjected to the same rules as everyone else. That is partially true. Most jobs don't have internal affairs along with civil liability for: not doing your job, and doing your job incorrectly, on top of criminal penalties for exceeding your authority. The same DA you depend on to prosecute your cases may one day be prosecuting you.
It is a hard profession to enter because of the competition and standards. It is an easy profession to lose your job. Are there bad cops? Yes, absolutely. The biggest victims of bad cops is other cops because bad cops make a tough job just about unbearable. Lots of pressures and temptations to take the easy way, but those are the ways to lose your job and maybe your freedom.
Lots of tough jobs out there. Law enforcement is not for everyone. If you've had a bad encounter with law enforcement, I apologize. Most of us try to provide good service with a humane attitude toward others. It isn't a popularity contest and if we are doing our job correctly there will be unhappy customers. We don't get dispatched to birthday parties and bar mitzvahs, at least not for the happy ones. Most of us are as happy to clear a scene, no report, as you are happy to see us go.
Be safe.
Well said, brother! The news stated yesterday that while all the criminal cases have either resulted in acquittal or dismissed, there are still internal investigations ongoing. Like cstone said, you may skate on the criminal charges, but internal matters are completely different. Just because you didn't break the law, doesn't mean you didn't violate policy. I'll be curious to see how many resign. Even if they're all cleared of any policy violations or misconduct, their reputations are still completely screwed because the media dragged their names through the mud before any facts came out to a jury or judge. Similar to what happened to Off. Wilson in Ferguson.
jhood001
07-28-2016, 16:57
Bounce yourself around inside a metal box with your arms bound. IIRC, one of the other prisoners in the truck said Gray was doing this himself purposefully. I presume he did this out of pure anger or to create enough of a ruckus that they'd stop and he could argue with them some more. Either way, you bounce yourself around like that and you're liable to crack your head or your neck -- presto, fatal injury, especially if you already have a prior injury to the neck or spine as Gray did.
I hadn't heard that.
Why do we weigh in? Because officers who were protecting the community -- doing their job FFS -- were railroaded by a grandstanding political wannabe. People who have sworn an oath to protect others like the many LEOs and current or former servicemembers on this board tend to take offense to that kind of situation. The fact charges were dismissed is great news because it means those officers can get on with their lives and get back to protecting the community. It means the judge (and at least one jury) recognized the truth, forcing this ass of a DA to drop her witch hunt. That's good news to many of us here. This case matters because activist groups would have pressed similar tactics nationwide if she had been successful in her persecution -- resulting in LEOs across the nation becoming vulnerable to these scurrilous charges and tactics from those who would tear down society.
Gotcha. Thanks.
Im sick of the conviction before trial attitude we have when it comes to certain events.
Agreed.
Bailey Guns
07-28-2016, 21:00
I would donate to a fund for the officers in question to sue Moseby for malicious prosecution. That political grandstander should pay for ruining so many peoples' lives.
I think I heard today that 5 of the 6 officers have filed an intent to sue notice on Mosby. Good for them.
I think I heard today that 5 of the 6 officers have filed an intent to sue notice on Mosby. Good for them.
They need to sue her into oblivion.
I think I heard today that 5 of the 6 officers have filed an intent to sue notice on Mosby. Good for them.
After the suit, she should be charged with gross misconduct and false prosecution and be de-barred. And then, for good measure, tarred and feathered.
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