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Aloha_Shooter
08-06-2016, 21:24
I happened onto some shows on tiny houses while I was flipping through channels after replacing my DirecTV receiver. Is it just me is "tiny house" just pampered millenial talk for "upscale mobile home"? I admit there're some ingenious design and engineering elements in these (which is the only reason I've bothered watching more than one show) but everything else about them screams "mobile home" to me ... including the fact that most of these seem to be built on trailer beds (at least most "mobile" homes don't have the wheels showing!).
I would move into a tiny house tomorrow as long as there was a 3 car garage on the property.
What is is the need for a big house? All you do is sleep eat and hopefully have some pants off fun. All That could be done in 200 sq ft.
there are a lot of documentaries on this including a recent trending one on Netflix. They all have a lot of feelings though makes it a bit tough to watch.
If I were single? I might do it if it meant having land and a big shop. But with anything more than one person and I feel like you'll go crazy. I think it's part of the "I don't want to work my life away" movement that millennials, for the most part, have. Personally, I enjoy having space to stretch out and have hobby areas, entertaining, etc.
The other thing that gets me is yes, you save on a mortgage. But If you're spending $50,000, why not get a used motorhome or a travel trailer? At least those have a much bigger resale market when you decide to do something else. And yes, mortgages suck but at least you get equity that helps build wealth. If you're putting all that savings into something that will earn you what real estate can, then that's great. But I'm guessing most of the tiny home people aren't based on the shows I've watched. But real estate is generally a good thing to spend money on. Maybe that's just me...
I read that most municipalities don't technically allow these types of homes to be used as a primary residence. I think the issue is that a primary residence must have either city water/sewer, septic, in electrical grid, on an excepted type of foundation or any combination. I guess many don't enforce it. And many small home owners think building it on a trailer makes it a mobile home. I think it often does but it then requires them to take it to a mobile home community or build a pad and connect it to the grid etc if it's to be used as a primary residence.
I can certainly see myself living out my days in something like that if I was by myself.
Tiny Home=Overpriced fancy trailer. Ok for a season or so, but I'd go batshit after more than a couple of months
When I went home to see Dad I saw quite a few of these at rv parks near Lake Amistad....they were all on trailer type chassis
Honey Badger282.8
08-06-2016, 22:55
Eco Cabins. Look into them, they're actually pretty cool and can serve a purpose. A coworker is living in one temporarily while he builds his new house, once done his Eco Cabin will be turned into a guest house. They're built more like a modular home than a mobile home but because of their square footage they do not require a foundation since they are classified as a RV. One of those on a some acreage with a decent sized barn/garage/workshop would fit the bill nicely for a childless couple.
Mobile homes are far nicer, IMHO. These tiny homes are a fad among Millenials, who will eventually get tired of having to move the dining room 'table' and slide out the tiny 2'X2' squares for people to squat on when they visit.
Besides, where would they keep their stuff?
OTOH, these tiny homes would be a godsend for homeless veterans, or others that are homeless due to unfortunate circumstances. Please note that I am not advocating anything for those damn "travelers", hippies, hobos, or pothead transients.
Historically, homes were quite small, so this is nothing more than a return to an older mode of living with upgrade luxury. If people don't need "stuff", or don't want "stuff", a tiny home makes more sense.
According to this article, homes today are 1000sqft larger than in 1973:https://www.aei.org/publication/todays-new-homes-are-1000-square-feet-larger-than-in-1973-and-the-living-space-per-person-has-doubled-over-last-40-years/
This article details how they were even smaller in the 1800s: http://seducedbyhistory.blogspot.com/2009/05/housing-in-1800s-america.html
Username Clint rips into the Tiny house from a logical perspective in the comments: http://thetinylife.com/tiny-house-vs-mobile-home-trailer/
We should all just go live in a van down by the river. :)
People were also a hell of a lot smaller in the 1800s. They didn't need a place to hang their 60" TV. They also used to shit in the woods. Pass.
RblDiver
08-06-2016, 23:41
Tiny Houses aren't mobile homes, they're smaller (rough estimate, I'd say maybe half the size). Some could be and are designed for towing by a car (hell, the room I'm in now is larger than some of them). The idea is maximum utilization of space (like, storage compartments that fold inside the walls, etc).
So, yeah, somewhat hipster, but not a new word for mobile homes at all.
Just browsing the thread and it seems that most are missing the point. Low budget stuff always attracts young people with less money. That doesn't define what tiny houses are about though.
GilpinGuy
08-07-2016, 05:54
These are a fad. There was a documentary (forgot the name) that showcased how 8 out of 10 abandonded their tiny house after a year.
And they aren't cheap. Just get an RV or travel trailer that's built for that specific purpose and see how you do for a few months. Didn't work out? Ok, now you have an RV for vacations.
But hey, if you dig it, go for it!
Bailey Guns
08-07-2016, 06:44
I can say that after living alone in a large 5th wheel for 5 months and another two months with the wife and 3 dogs, I find nothing attractive or romantic about the thought of living in a tiny home. Or an RV for that matter. The house we bought here is 3200 sq ft...and that's just fine. On the other hand, I don't really care if that's what someone wants to do. If it makes you happy or meets a need (financial or otherwise), knock yourself out.
I could live in very few square footage if it were just me. But where most of the micro type "houses" lose me is the composting, incinerating, or blue water toilet.
kidicarus13
08-07-2016, 08:23
These are a fad. There was a documentary (forgot the name) that showcased how 8 out of 10 abandonded their tiny house after a year.
http://www.techinsider.io/five-people-who-abandoned-their-tiny-homes-2015-7
buffalobo
08-07-2016, 08:44
My wife, dog(50lb heeler) and I, spent 6yrs living in an 8x31 5th wheel. It sucked.
Since it was planned to be several yrs in duration a few "amenities" were part of the plan.
We built 1500 Sq ft shop before moving trailer on site. In the shop was an office, a laundry room and "normal" size refrigerator.
Since we had Porta john on site for const project I made arrangements for septic company to service a 500 gal holding tank for trailer as well.
A 125 gal propane tank replaced the usual 2x 30# tanks.
I skirted and insulated under it.
Preplanned lateral off shops water line to service trailer and eventually garden/green house.
All that made it tolerable. Along with the fact that my wife is a saint. And it still sucked.
Each to his own, but not again for us. If it is more than 2 weeks it is more than 750 sq ft.
There have been a couple tiny house projects pop up in our area. One appears trailer mounted and the other a foundation(probable future expansion). Both look to be 2nd homes on existing acreages.
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vectorsc
08-07-2016, 09:19
I will end up doing the tiny house and a shop. I know what i use my home for, and ill be living alone so no interpersonal grind there.
Mine is going to be 600 square foot and on a real Foundation.
Peoplr ask me why im going to do it this way and i tell them ill be debt free and able to retire at 40. I dont mind not grinding away at work unless i want to.
And yes, a 200 square foot house for a couple sounds like the beginning of a divorce.
Historically, homes were quite small, so this is nothing more than a return to an older mode of living with upgrade luxury. If people don't need "stuff", or don't want "stuff", a tiny home makes more sense.
According to this article, homes today are 1000sqft larger than in 1973:https://www.aei.org/publication/todays-new-homes-are-1000-square-feet-larger-than-in-1973-and-the-living-space-per-person-has-doubled-over-last-40-years/
This article details how they were even smaller in the 1800s: http://seducedbyhistory.blogspot.com/2009/05/housing-in-1800s-america.html
Username Clint rips into the Tiny house from a logical perspective in the comments: http://thetinylife.com/tiny-house-vs-mobile-home-trailer/
We should all just go live in a van down by the river. :)
HoneyBadger
08-07-2016, 09:38
I find the neat engineering and organization appealing, as well as the forced anti-materialistic life. ...But nothing about them is practical for life with a family, and nothing about them is worth $40-50k.
When I finally get around to building a cabin in the mountains, it will be similar to these tiny house trailers, but on a foundation and maybe 6-800sqft. Well organized and efficient without a lot of room for junk. And it'll cost a whole lot less.
hurley842002
08-07-2016, 09:41
I find the neat engineering and organization appealing, as well as the forced anti-materialistic life.
When I finally get around to building a cabin in the mountains, it will be similar to these tiny house trailers, but on a foundation and maybe 6-800sqft. Well organized and efficient without a lot of room for junk.
YOU HIPSTER MILLENNIAL!! [Sarcasm]
Where are people getting the $40-50k number? I watched the documentary on Netflix, and maybe 15 of the episodes on Tiny House, Big Adventure on YouTube and I'm getting the impression of $20-30k.
Where are people getting the $40-50k number? I watched the documentary on Netflix, and maybe 15 of the episodes on Tiny House, Big Adventure on YouTube and I'm getting the impression of $20-30k.
a tough shed on a fifth wheel flatbed and your set for 15k
I will end up doing the tiny house and a shop. I know what i use my home for, and ill be living alone so no interpersonal grind there.
Mine is going to be 600 square foot and on a real Foundation.
Peoplr ask me why im going to do it this way and i tell them ill be debt free and able to retire at 40. I dont mind not grinding away at work unless i want to.
And yes, a 200 square foot house for a couple sounds like the beginning of a divorce.
there are houses in Denver that are 650 soft selling for 260k right now 600 isn't to bad to live in it's the size of my apartment
Zundfolge
08-07-2016, 10:28
I think the tiny homes are nifty and one would be awesome if you owned some mountain property and you wanted a little vacation shack on it (especially the more self contained ones that allow "off grid" living).
What bugs the crap out of me though is the combination of lefty "eco living" and "sustainability" talk among many of the tiny home folk mixed with the whole "Americans need to lower their standards" crap that seems to accompany most discussions of these tiny homes. They really are a sign that for the first time in over two centuries, the latest generation of Americans is not going to have a better life than their parents ... and these tiny homes seem like a much too gleeful acceptance of that.
I think the tiny homes are nifty and one would be awesome if you owned some mountain property and you wanted a little vacation shack on it (especially the more self contained ones that allow "off grid" living).
What bugs the crap out of me though is the combination of lefty "eco living" and "sustainability" talk among many of the tiny home folk mixed with the whole "Americans need to lower their standards" crap that seems to accompany most discussions of these tiny homes. They really are a sign that for the first time in over two centuries, the latest generation of Americans is not going to have a better life than their parents ... and these tiny homes seem like a much too gleeful acceptance of that.
Sustainability and eco friendly concepts are exactly the same as the most money saving concepts. I'm not sure why there is so much negativity toward people not wanting to work their whole lives. There is not a single person on this board who doesn't wish they could have been retired by the time they were 40 years old. The less you spend, the less you think you need to live off of and the sooner you can comfortably retire from the rat race. Tiny houses are probably some what of a trend, but the idea that one shouldn't need to work into their 80's, or even 60's if they don't need to is an idea that had been building for a long time now and manifests itself in many different ways and at many different levels of society. It goes hand in hand with spending money on food preps and precious metals instead of convertibles and Ipads. I would have thought these ideas would have a better reception here.
ColoradoTJ
08-07-2016, 10:57
I have a co-worker that is going to do this very thing when she retires. This is what is offered in Colorado Springs for the people that want a cost.
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/pages/customize-your-tumbleweed
My Travel Trailer is bigger, nicer in a lot of ways, and about 40K cheaper. Oh, I can sleep 8 as well.
Now go buy some land. That tiny home is just that...tiny with a big cost.
Great-Kazoo
08-07-2016, 11:02
Where are people getting the $40-50k number? I watched the documentary on Netflix, and maybe 15 of the episodes on Tiny House, Big Adventure on YouTube and I'm getting the impression of $20-30k.
Depending on construction, amenities etc the base models start in the $18 - 20K range. The pretentious tiny home owner has to make an impression. They can't justify something unless they over paid for it.
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/products/elm
$58,000
$61,000
$67,000
$70,000
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http://rockymountaintinyhouses.com/for-sale/
Modern 18′ Front Range (http://rockymountaintinyhouses.com/plans/front-range-2/) model made with SIP’s and reclaimed metal siding and windows. $35,000 (delivery not included)
Yeah, once you get companies signed on to being custom builders, the price is going to skyrocket. Most of the stuff I've watched had been people taking on the challenge of building the houses themselves.
By the way, the reason all these are on trailers is because most building municipalities do not allow for permanent structures that are dwellings to be under 600 sq/ft. Building on a trailer is a loop hole, just like bulding a place on skids. No permits required allows for a lot more creativity with materials. Most of the homes you'll see are around the 200 sq/ft mark because they are all built on trailers that can't be wider than 8ft or taller than 13ft as to have them be legal on the highways.
There's a contractor four houses away from me that recently finished building a "tiny house" (on trailer) for his daughter. He did all the work himself and I was still floored at what that trailer cost to make in spite of all of his contractor discounts. At that point I don't see the point in not simply getting an Airstream.
While they are small, 'tiny homes' are downright palatial compared to the tiny-apartment trend that is going on in major cities now with very creative use of very small spaces. I guess if you are someone that can complete your occupational tasks on a laptop, do all your web surfing on a smart phone, eat most of your meals in restaurants, and don't have any equipment-dependent hobbies, it can be done. Maybe it's the flip-side to all the people that have garages but can't park their cars inside because the garage is full of junk, which seems more the norm than the exception.
Small-ish homes derived from shipping containers is a far more intriguing prospect if mobility isn't required.
Sustainability and eco friendly concepts are exactly the same as the most money saving concepts. I'm not sure why there is so much negativity toward people not wanting to work their whole lives. There is not a single person on this board who doesn't wish they could have been retired by the time they were 40 years old. The less you spend, the less you think you need to live off of and the sooner you can comfortably retire from the rat race. Tiny houses are probably some what of a trend, but the idea that one shouldn't need to work into their 80's, or even 60's if they don't need to is an idea that had been building for a long time now and manifests itself in many different ways and at many different levels of society. It goes hand in hand with spending money on food preps and precious metals instead of convertibles and Ipads. I would have thought these ideas would have a better reception here.
There are definite pros to Tiny House living. The idea of being retired by 40 is incredibly appealing.
But the drawbacks to a Tiny House put me off of the concept completely. Food preps are great, but there's no place in a Tiny House for food storage of any significant time. Water? Same deal. Hobbies? Very little space for indoor hobbies, unless it all takes place on the internet or your small laptop/tablet. Most couples I know need separate space once in a while. Tiny house living would never work for us- we have a library, food storage, I sew and craft, and that's not even beginning to touch what we have or the space we need. I enjoy watching the Tiny House shows, but it's primarily for storage ideas or to answer questions of how people might work around the issue of laundry, etc.
The Tiny House people clearly don't have a menagerie of pets, either.
A lot of the tiny house people have dogs, cats, or both. I watch tiny house shows, then throw away a bunch of stuff I've been hoarding and never use. I longed for a larger house, only to realize I have rooms inside my house that we're not even using. I like the idea of a barndominium, and got to see one in real life on Thursday, but like most things, I think it'd end up costing more to build the way I want than I originally would think. My wife likes the idea of buying enough land to build a tiny house for her mom to live. I also like that idea. We see more and more multi-generational families living with each other now. A main dwelling with a kitchen and garage, surrounded by tiny houses for sleeping would be a great way for big families to live together, but not on top of each other. I'm very attracted to the idea of buying land and parking a tiny house on it for a permanent camping spot or hunting cabin.
A lot of the tiny house people have dogs, cats, or both. I watch tiny house shows, then throw away a bunch of stuff I've been hoarding and never use. I longed for a larger house, only to realize I have rooms inside my house that we're not even using. I like the idea of a barndominium, and got to see one in real life on Thursday, but like most things, I think it'd end up costing more to build the way I want than I originally would think. My wife likes the idea of buying enough land to build a tiny house for her mom to live. I also like that idea. We see more and more multi-generational families living with each other now. A main dwelling with a kitchen and garage, surrounded by tiny houses for sleeping would be a great way for big families to live together, but not on top of each other. I'm very attracted to the idea of buying land and parking a tiny house on it for a permanent camping spot or hunting cabin.
The Family Compound idea is a wonderful one! I've noticed many people are doing things like that. The Tiny House as a "mother-in-law" apartment is also a good one, but most of the Tiny Houses that I've seen require scaling up a narrow ladder and that wouldn't work for either of our parents.
Our cats use every square inch of this house, and they galumph like they're warhorses. Five cats require a minimum of 1000', plus a stairway and multiple rooms to lurk in. I suppose Tiny Houses require Tiny Cats...and we only have one of those!
I watch "Hoarders" once in a while, just for the motivation to gather up a bunch of stuff and take it to Savers or ARC.
I have a friend that's going to have a barndominium made...but she actually has horses and it would make a lot of sense for her.
Tiny Houses may work out perfectly for some people. If so, more power to them!
On the sliding scale of housing needs, we're comfortable closer to the Bailey Guns edge than the Tiny House/KonMari side of things. :)
These are more of a micro house but they're pretty cool.
https://www.ecocapsule.sk/
(https://www.ecocapsule.sk/)
We're actually doing the compound thing, my mom in a modular house and my mother in law living in a Jayco trailer. Dumping it is a PITA but at the moment it's better than having to put in another septic system.
The Family Compound idea is a wonderful one! I've noticed many people are doing things like that.
It is a fantastic idea, and one that my wife and our relatives have adopted. We call it "within the U.S." as all of us at one time or another have lived "outside the U.S." All of our living relatives are now a minimum of 1,000 miles away, it works out truly great!
My proto type cost $1000 for the shell plus the trailer. No discounts all store bought.
It is a fad but it has it's uses. Circumventing dwelling codes construction moritorriums or serious cost savings
In 1900 800sq ft was a 3 bedroom for an entire family.
A car cannot reliably tow most tiny homes
Travel trailers have some serious drawbacks that a decently designed tiny house will easily beat.
I live in 750 Sq foot but actually use less than half. The rest is for my crap
I guess one affect of having a tiny house is that you never have to host holiday dinners, Super Bowl parties, having a family member stay over, etc.
Honey Badger282.8
08-07-2016, 15:04
Comparing a tiny house to a trailer or another traditional RV is like apples to oranges. The $50k tiny houses are built like modular homes and have the appropriate R-value insulation. Because they aren't designed to be towed you don't have to compromise on construction quality like you do with RVs and trailers. Not all are built like this but many are.
I would take a Eco Cabin over an apartment with double the sq ft everyday of the week.
gnihcraes
08-07-2016, 16:46
The one thing I see different in a tiny house vs mobile home or RV = quality of materials. Most RV's and mobile homes seem to have lesser quality materials. Paneling, plywood and the like. Tiny home seems to usually have a standard frame wall, frames and cabinets.
We're currently in a 1000 sqft 1922 house, it will do til I'm dead most likely. I sometimes dream of a better home, but for what? to impress someone? Kardashians aren't going to stop by, so whatever.
ColoradoTJ
08-07-2016, 17:03
Something also to concider is these tiny homes have wheels, most cannot be towed with a typical 1/2 ton or even 3/4 ton vehicle.
Probably not a good comparison with RV and these tiny homes. I can say this, I have been eyeballing some log cabin 3 car garages with a mother-in-law cabin loft for 30k + foundation work.
Another thing to look into is if you want to buy property, better make sure you can put something that small on the land. My mountain property the smallest dwelling can be 750 sq ft.
It's not a dwelling when it's on wheels, which is the whole point.
gnihcraes
08-07-2016, 18:32
It's not a dwelling when it's on wheels, which is the whole point.
but it also cannot be attached to sewer or water for any length of time and must be moved so often I believe.
Aloha_Shooter
08-07-2016, 20:01
I'm not against the move or decisions to downsize or to save money so they can get a real start in life. There is no reason a couple just starting out in life need to have all the luxuries their parents do. What makes me cough (or laugh) is how much these people are spending in order to NOT be "trailer park" or "mobile home" people. Typical millenial pretentiousness IMO although I applaud the contractors and designers who are taking advantage of the fad.
There's a contractor four houses away from me that recently finished building a "tiny house" (on trailer) for his daughter. He did all the work himself and I was still floored at what that trailer cost to make in spite of all of his contractor discounts. At that point I don't see the point in not simply getting an Airstream.
While they are small, 'tiny homes' are downright palatial compared to the tiny-apartment trend that is going on in major cities now with very creative use of very small spaces. I guess if you are someone that can complete your occupational tasks on a laptop, do all your web surfing on a smart phone, eat most of your meals in restaurants, and don't have any equipment-dependent hobbies, it can be done. Maybe it's the flip-side to all the people that have garages but can't park their cars inside because the garage is full of junk, which seems more the norm than the exception.
Small-ish homes derived from shipping containers is a far more intriguing prospect if mobility isn't required.
I dig the shipping container houses.
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kidicarus13
08-07-2016, 20:40
I dig the shipping container houses.
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Reminds me of the Container Bar in Austin, TX...
http://austincontainerbar.com
huntnfishn5280
08-07-2016, 20:53
The ones in Jackson Hole you can rent are cool! http://www.firesidejacksonhole.com/photo-gallery.htm
(http://www.firesidejacksonhole.com/photo-gallery.htm)
hurley842002
08-07-2016, 21:12
Slightly off topic, but I find all the "millennial" bashing somewhat interesting, considering there are probably quite a few "millennials" on this very forum. I looked up the definition of millennial, and depending on who ya talk to, I fall into the category (the latest date for Gen X is 84 according to some, which is my birth year, so I suppose I overlap between X and Y). I don't make a habit of letting a term define me, so I won't be losing sleep over it, but figured I'd mention something.
The tail end of the millennial generation is 2000 depending on who you listen to, so I really fail to see how my upbringing (84) is anything like someone born in 2000 (you could still whip your child's ass when I was a kid). At any rate, just an observation.
Slightly off topic, but I find all the "millennial" bashing somewhat interesting, considering there are probably quite a few "millennials" on this very forum. I looked up the definition of millennial, and depending on who ya talk to, I fall into the category (the latest date for Gen X is 84 according to some, which is my birth year, so I suppose I overlap between X and Yeah). I don't make a habit of letting a term define me, so I won't be losing sleep over it, but figured I'd mention something.
The tail end of the millennial generation is 2000 depending on who you listen to, so I really fail to see how my upbringing (84) is anything like someone born in 2000 (you could still whip your child's ass when I was a kid). At any rate, just an observation.
85 here, and I agree. We still had the opportunity to "pick your own switch, and it better not break". Hell of a lot changed in 15yrs.
And while my house did arrive on a trailer, it is not what I would term "tiny". I do however refuse to pay in-town prices for a home where it is managed by some HOA lunatic, I'll just drive an hour to work.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/mchl_wood/Home/20160805_095323_zpsxhdldw7z.jpg
Honey Badger282.8
08-07-2016, 21:48
I'm not against the move or decisions to downsize or to save money so they can get a real start in life. There is no reason a couple just starting out in life need to have all the luxuries their parents do. What makes me cough (or laugh) is how much these people are spending in order to NOT be "trailer park" or "mobile home" people. Typical millenial pretentiousness IMO although I applaud the contractors and designers who are taking advantage of the fad.
The problem with mobile home parks is that they stack the deck against the tenant. You own your structure but rent the land, the park will raise the lot rental until you can't afford it. The problem is that no one wants to move a mobile home once it's been set as they can't guarantee its structure anymore. So the only option is to sell the home, unfortunately they depreciate more than most cars so many are upside down and can't sell. Further exacerbating the situation is that many mobile home communities don't allow for renting by the structure owner. They force the owner to sell the home to the park and they turn around and rent it for a huge mark up.
This is is what happened to my grandmother. I would live in a mobile home in a heartbeat for the cost savings but I would never live in a park, it has nothing to do with being pretentious.
The problem with mobile home parks is that they stack the deck against the tenant. You own your structure but rent the land, the park will raise the lot rental until you can't afford it. The problem is that no one wants to move a mobile home once it's been set as they can't guarantee its structure anymore. So the only option is to sell the home, unfortunately they depreciate more than most cars so many are upside down and can't sell. Further exacerbating the situation is that many mobile home communities don't allow for renting by the structure owner. They force the owner to sell the home to the park and they turn around and rent it for a huge mark up.
This is is what happened to my grandmother. I would live in a mobile home in a heartbeat for the cost savings but I would never live in a park, it has nothing to do with being pretentious.
Correct on all accounts. We're part owners of a mobile home that was paid off years and years ago, but we can't rent it out.
GilpinGuy
08-08-2016, 00:17
My place here was a 20 x 30 (600sf) box before the addition and was awesome...until I got a wife, kids, and got serious about life.
If you can get by in a "tiny house" for more than a year or two, God bless ya. No kids happening in one though.
Edit: kids might happen, just not comfortably
hurley842002
08-08-2016, 00:27
If you can get by in a "tiny house" for more than a year or two, God bless ya. No kids happening in one though.
Edit: kids might happen, just not comfortably
Wife and I were talking about tiny houses, and both agreed we could do one if it wasn't for the kids. Children completely rule out a place smaller than where we are now.
Great-Kazoo
08-08-2016, 07:07
Wife and I were talking about tiny houses, and both agreed we could do one if it wasn't for the kids. Children completely rule out a place smaller than where we are now.
1600 sq ft isn't big enough for the spouse & I. Be with someone 4 decades and you'll know what i mean.
ColoradoTJ
08-08-2016, 07:16
1600 sq ft isn't big enough for the spouse & I. Be with someone 4 decades and you'll know what i mean.
This^^^^
or even 15 years.
Bailey Guns
08-08-2016, 15:33
28 years, 3200 sq ft, 1600 for each of us...plus MY shop, she gets the garage. We don't even have to see each other if we don't want to. Fortunately, we still want to.
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