New Glock owner

[jmg8550]

I never thought I'd say this, but I bought a Glock. Gen4 Glock 19.

Anyway, shot it for the first time on Sunday, and it shot a bit high and right at 10 yards. Are the sights on these normally off a little bit? I can shoot point of aim with my SAI 1911, but the Glock not so much. I tried different trigger presses, paid attention to follow through also. Even let a friend shoot it, and still shot high right. I'd say 2 inches high, and 3 inches right.

Any suggestions?

[Great-Kazoo]

Practice. i've never had an issue with glock's POI

The grip angle does throw single stack shooters off a bit.

[jmg8550]

Practice what? Sight alignment was good, trigger press was good, only thing that helped was aiming left and low. I shoot left handed, my friend shoots right, same results.

[DFBrews]

Plastic oem sights? What Ammo? A set of quality metal ones might put it where it needs to be

[Great-Kazoo]

Practice what? Sight alignment was good, trigger press was good, only thing that helped was aiming left and low. I shoot left handed, my friend shoots right, same results.

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[jmg8550]

Plastic oem sights? What Ammo? A set of quality metal ones might put it where it needs to be

Oem sights, 9mm reloads 115gr , not hot just standard velocity.

Not wanting to do any modifications on a brand new pistol.

[Musashi]

This: 66552

Just kidding. Practice the fundamentals and you will sort it out. Plastic Glock sights do suck and I would recommend replacing them but shoot a couple of hundred rounds through the gun to get a feel for it and make adjustments from there.

[ray1970]

I was a high-left shooter until I got my fundamentals dialed in.

I'm going to have to agree with others and say you just need to get some more trigger time.

[jmg8550]

I'll give it some time before I rule anything out then. That training aid is hilarious, I'll have to save that.

[mahkcod]

66564

For me I've always noticed my sight picture is a little different on Glock more like the picture above, if you want to give that a try.

[jmg8550]

I'll definitely give that a try. Going to take some getting use to, that's for sure.

[Joe_K]

66564

For me I've always noticed my sight picture is a little different on Glock more like the picture above, if you want to give that a try.
Maybe because most folks flinch low he decided to fuck up the sights intentionally to compensate? JK

Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi

[sneakerd]

I can't tell you how many times people come off of the range and complain that their sights are off. Can you fix them? In my personal experience, it has always been the shooter. I take their pistol, go put some rounds thru the center of their target, and hand them back their gun. Make sure the web of your hand is all the way up the backstrap of the Glock and shoot the shit out of it.

[ray1970]

I still struggle a bit with slow, deliberate shots. Especially at longer ranges. I think it has something to do with the relatively heavy pull weight, the spongey break, and the over travel after the break.

That being said, if I shoot hard and fast I don't have problems with the shots going where I want them. Especially if my target is inside of about twelve yards or so.

More practice would help me with the longer, slower shots but I cheat the system and make minor modifications to my handguns to lighten the pull weight and eliminate the over travel to make things easier for me. You know, because I'm lazy like that.

[Limited GM]

If you're shooting a consistent tight group, adjust the sights to there. Period.

Dawson precision sells his sight sets with guarantee to zero. Can't go wrong there. I've several sets of his. Good kit.

[O2HeN2]

Benchrest it before you decide the sights are off.

O2

[Joe_K]

In 3.5 years of working at a public range of the thousands of times I heard "The danged sights are off!" I found precisely 3 handguns that actually had sights misaligned.

1x Century Arms import Tokarev
1x XDM the rear sight dovetail was cut sloppily.
1x Ruger 22/45 with adjustable target sights.

1. Align the sights to the target properly. ( A decent majority of defensive handguns require a 6 o'clock hold at most distances.)
2. Hold the gun still while applying pressure to the bang lever.
3. Reset, Sight Picture,
Reevaluate.



Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi

[Wulf202]

During an nra instructor class I told the guy I'd never shot a handgun bench rest before. He said "how else do you know if your sights are off or not?"

I was speechless

[jmg8550]

In 3.5 years of working at a public range of the thousands of times I heard "The danged sights are off!" I found precisely 3 handguns that actually had sights misaligned.

1x Century Arms import Tokarev
1x XDM the rear sight dovetail was cut sloppily.
1x Ruger 22/45 with adjustable target sights.

1. Align the sights to the target properly. ( A decent majority of defensive handguns require a 6 o'clock hold at most distances.)
2. Hold the gun still while applying pressure to the bang lever.
3. Reset, Sight Picture,
Reevaluate.



Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi

My Springfield Armory 1911 Operator had it's sights replaced for misaligned sights under warranty. It does happen...thanks for the suggestions though.

[TEAMRICO]

......but are the firearms zeroed to THIER eye?

[ray1970]

This whole thread is make believe. Everyone knows Glocks are "perfection".

[Ah Pook]

Haven't drank the Glock kewl aid. That said, I can shoot the G4 with accurate precision. Earlier models and I'm hitting ceiling tiles.

Yes, I am a 1911 fan but the G4 is rowing on me.

Practice, practice, practice...

[Irving]

Test fired my new Glock today for the first time. Good accuracy (for me) when I did my part. My biggest issue was placing my thumb in the correct position so I would stop activating the slide stop.

[ray1970]

Test fired my new Glock today for the first time. Good accuracy (for me) when I did my part. My biggest issue was placing my thumb in the correct position so I would stop activating the slide stop.

Thats funny. The Glock is about the only one I don't do that with.

[Irving]

This one has an extended slide release that just happens to reach my thumb. A normal slide release will probably take care of it.

[Big E3]

I took six 1911’s to the range last Saturday. All of them except one shot to point of aim. It was a Springfield Mil Spec with a new trigger, beaver tail and hammer installed. No mods to the sights but it shot 3” low at 15 yards. None of my other 1911’s that I shot did this, so I know it is not operator error. I could correct the issue by holding the front sight high, it would then hit the center of the target. This gun was bone stock when I got it, so I know that it has factory sights.

Having said that, of the 20 plus Glocks I have owned (still have 14) I never had an issue with sights, factory or after market, even with conversion barrels.

[ray1970]

This one has an extended slide release that just happens to reach my thumb. A normal slide release will probably take care of it.

Ah. I see. I have that issue with the extended one myself. That's why I don't run them.

I have a spare normal one if you want it.

[O2HeN2]

During an nra instructor class I told the guy I'd never shot a handgun bench rest before. He said "how else do you know if your sights are off or not?"

I was speechless
I'm not quote sure what you're speechless at. For 80% of the shooters out there, if they really want to know where they're hitting, bench rest is the only answer. Many shooters are "Legends in their own minds".

Yhea, if you really are a good shooter (and an NRA instructor should be good -- note I said "should be") sure, you don't need to bench rest.

I (an NRA instructor) could see myself saying that if the shooter I was talking to was of unknown quality and I didn't have much time to elaborate, because at 80% you have a 4 out of 5 chance at being right on the money.

Now, if the NRA instructor though that about himself -- or everyone -- I would be speechless. Perhaps that's what you're referring to, especially if it was an instructor class.

...but bench rest never hurts, either. :)

O2

Ps. In almost every class we have a gun or two "that can't hit the broad side of a barn" or "the sights are off" (mostly they're shooting low and left, if you get my drift). I consider it part of the rapport I'm trying to build with the class to take such guns and print nice, tight groups with them (standing). Shows them that I might know what I'm talking about. :)