View Full Version : Alaskan Fishing Guide Stops Charging Grizzly with a 9mm
ClangClang
08-11-2016, 01:28
I've got a thread going over in the Ammunition/Ballistics forum about the best .45 bullet for woods carry, and then this happens:
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/8/10/alaska-outfitter-defends-fishermen-from-raging-grizzly-with-9mm-pistol/
He was carrying Buffalo Bore +P 9mm Hard Cast. Took 7 shots. I guess I'll just ditch my FNX .45 and carry my LC9 for hunting season this year [UZI]
https://assets.americanhunter.org/media/1537203/bear_9mm_inset_2.jpg
KestrelBike
08-11-2016, 06:47
Larry's wife is never going on one of his damned trips again.
If I ever kill a grizzly I'm going to take my picture with it holding a Taurus PT25. I'll claim that's what I killed it with no matter how I really killed it.
(I'm not trying to imply anything about the photo or incident depicted above. It just gave me the inspiration to create my own internet myth/legend some day.)
Damn... That Grizzly still looks pissed.
Why did the S&W model number change between the article (3953) and Buffalo Bore letter (3954)? The 3954 is the blued variant of the 3953 (stainless) model and is obviously not in the photos.
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hollohas
08-11-2016, 08:38
I had a young bull moose come at me and my hunting partner 2 years ago while we were quartering an elk. I only had a 9mm on me.
Bull was with 2 cows and was paralleling our position in the woods about 25 yards away. When he saw us, he made a 90 and started walking directly at us.
I fired one into the ground to try to scare him off. Didn't work. We were in the middle of a field, yelling as loud as we could. Moose didn't even flinch. 2 more shots in the ground and he still didn't flinch.
I had a 17rnd mag and said out loud to my buddy, "hope 15 rounds is enough to stop a moose"...
The moose wasn't charging, just still walking with purpose right at us. He stopped about 10-12 yards away, and was huffing and puffing a bit. I was ready to shoot him if he came at us any more. Luckly he changed his mind after a few seconds and turned back to the cows.
When we came back to the trucks, another hunter camped nearby came by and told us he heard all the ruckus and was going to come check on us if we didn't come back soon.
That day made me want to get something a little bigger to carry in the woods.
Glad to see 9mm can do the job against the biggie north american animals if necessary.
Zundfolge
08-11-2016, 08:43
Damn... That Grizzly still looks pissed.
He's embarrassed ... "I can't believe this old man took me out with a wimpy Euro-pellet"
Do they usually charge on their hind legs? Looks like some chest shots.
Rucker61
08-11-2016, 08:59
#BrownLivesMatter
#BrownPantsNeedChanging
#BrownPantsNeedChanging
For the win.
.455_Hunter
08-11-2016, 12:27
Not that 9mm would be my preferred bear defense caliber, but at least he was carrying a real gun, and not some stupid poly-striker plastic fantastic.
crashdown
08-11-2016, 12:42
Well......
My HK P2000sk should be lot easier to tote around than my G20 with 6 inch slide or Ruger Alaskan 44.
BushMasterBoy
08-11-2016, 12:58
Imagine what .40 would do! LMAO
sellersm
08-11-2016, 13:04
"Hard cast" = the key to the success of the story, imo.
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In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear confrontations, the Montana Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen to take extra precautions and be alert for bears while in the field. …We advise that outdoorsmen wear small bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren’t expecting them, and to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter….
It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.
I'm guessing a few of the "seven" shots were fired once the bear had stopped charging, but still had plenty of life left, hence the reason that some shots connected to the chest area. A charging bear, just like a bad guy, needs to keep getting filled with lead until the threat is neutralized, more so on the bear.[AR15]
HoneyBadger
08-11-2016, 14:25
A grizzly's chest is still pretty exposed as it charges.
A grizzly's chest is still pretty exposed as it charges.
Especially after you tripped while running, or slipped once the crap made its way down your leg. Either way you are shooting from the ground!
"Hard cast" = the key to the success of the story, imo.
Yup
Here is another link: https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=389
http://buffalobore.net/images/PhilShoemaker.jpg
Not a joke, the world record Grizzly (at the time, 1953) was taken with a .22:
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/what-22-rifle-did-bella-twin-use-to-kill-a-world-record-grizzly-in-1953/#axzz4H8b6moop
I've read the story many times and it appears to be true. Personally I'd not go less than a .25 auto, but that's just me [Sarcasm2]
I'd take a .22LR over a .25 Auto. Better penetration.
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Kraven251
08-13-2016, 14:34
There was one man that essentially bit a grizzly bear to death in Wyoming without the use of any weapon.
Seriously. Had a biting competition with a wild, pissed off grizzly that was trying to eat him and won.
Stranger than Fiction.
So the real question, Was it you?[Beer] ...you do admin this forum, so it is in your wheelhouse
There was one man that essentially bit a grizzly bear to death in Wyoming without the use of any weapon.
Seriously. Had a biting competition with a wild, pissed off grizzly that was trying to eat him and won.
Stranger than Fiction.
That's a man's man there. I want him on my team.
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