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Matt Bissonnette author of the book "No Easy Day" has to forfeit $6.8mil, ouch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/us/bin-laden-book-seal-team-6.html?_r=0
BushMasterBoy
08-20-2016, 16:25
he should have run for Congress, then get elected. Then they would not have done anything. poor bastard
Bailey Guns
08-20-2016, 16:43
He should've hired HRC as a consultant to explain how to lie well enough to get out of trouble.
He should've hired HRC as a consultant to explain how to lie well enough to get out of trouble.
One would think a SEAL could carry out his own hits to eliminate anyone needed to make the problem disappear...
Aloha_Shooter
08-20-2016, 17:56
I'm uncomfortable with the level of publicity being accepted these days by "secret warriors". The ones who have retired or separated should appreciate the value of OPSEC for those who are still conducting operations. On the other hand, it's utter BS that this guy was persecuted for six years while the administration gave full cooperation to the makers of "Oh Dark Thirty" and haven't prosecuted Hillary Clinton, those who aided her in circumventing the National Records Act or National Security laws, and those who KNEW for 4 years that she was using unapproved private email instead of the mandated government account and equipment.
My mother always said 2 wrongs don't make a right by why is it the lesser wrong is always pursued the hardest?
BushMasterBoy
08-20-2016, 18:49
I like this article better...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/19/pentagon-drops-claim-against-navy-seal-that-he-spilled-bin-laden-secrets.html
Quote: "“When I left the military, I got a plaque with my name misspelled, shitty medical care, and now I’m a million dollars in debt,” he said with frustration. “Thank you for your service.”
Scanker19
08-20-2016, 22:23
If only he's had stored most of it on a private email server he'd be good.
Great-Kazoo
08-20-2016, 23:35
I'm uncomfortable with the level of publicity being accepted these days by "secret warriors". The ones who have retired or separated should appreciate the value of OPSEC for those who are still conducting operations. On the other hand, it's utter BS that this guy was persecuted for six years while the administration gave full cooperation to the makers of "Oh Dark Thirty" and haven't prosecuted Hillary Clinton, those who aided her in circumventing the National Records Act or National Security laws, and those who KNEW for 4 years that she was using unapproved private email instead of the mandated government account and equipment.
My mother always said 2 wrongs don't make a right by why is it the lesser wrong is always pursued the hardest?
For the same reason i was audited, and sharpton got a pass. There is no more Integrity, or a sense of Right & Wrong.
Jeffrey Lebowski
08-21-2016, 08:51
For the same reason i was audited, and sharpton got a pass. There is no more Integrity, or a sense of Right & Wrong.
There are two classes in America. Sorry you belong to the wrong one, Kazoo.
Bailey Guns
08-21-2016, 08:55
I think there are more than 2 classes. 3 at least.
Elites: like the Clintons
Victims: the professional type we're always seeing on TV
Peasants: the rest of us
Jeffrey Lebowski
08-21-2016, 09:05
Yeah, probably. Good call.
I see it as...
The ship's captain and crew (the ruling elite that choose our direction)
The galley slaves (the taxpayers and the only reason this ship moves at all)
The lazy bastards enjoying the free cruise to anywhere (those living off the government dole)
Eventually there won't be any incentive to being chained to an oar.
BushMasterBoy
08-21-2016, 10:51
How did you think the Flying Hawaiian affords to gas up Air Force One? How the hell do you expect he can get to Marthas Vineyard? Democratic Taxi? Just fly the pet dog in a V22 Osprey...
Aloha_Shooter
08-21-2016, 15:27
How did you think the Flying Hawaiian affords to gas up Air Force One? How the hell do you expect he can get to Marthas Vineyard? Democratic Taxi? Just fly the pet dog in a V22 Osprey...
As a real kama`aina, I take offense. Just because the sumbeesh was born in Hawai`i ... he spent far more of his life in Chicago and the formative years in Indonesia. He's no more Hawaiian than Trump.
Nobody should enlist in the U.S. Military for medical, dental, or educational bennies. If you do/did then you drank the recruiter Kool-Aid.
If you sign an NDA then keep your fat face shut. No sympathy and not just because he's a Special Swabbie.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Nobody should enlist in the U.S. Military for medical, dental, or educational bennies. If you do/did then you drank the recruiter Kool-Aid.
If you sign an NDA then keep your fat face shut. No sympathy and not just because he's a Special Swabbie.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
I consider my PRK and GI bill benefits the biggest perks of my service. You may call getting paid 1800 bucks a month to get a degree kool-aid, I call it gravy [rockon]
I consider my PRK and GI bill benefits the biggest perks of my service. You may call getting paid 1800 bucks a month to get a degree kool-aid, I call it gravy [rockon]
I'm calling a spade a spade it's called Military Service, not Military Welfare. God and Country not Cash and Flash. I didn't enlist during Wartime for a pat on the back. We that served certainly earned our pay and bennies no doubt, but this stellar example of the Navy's finest is bitching about the pay and bennies after signing a book deal that violates an NDA he signed. And is looking for sympathy that the Government is going after him.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
As a recruiter, I discouraged anyone who was expressing benefits interest as their primary motivator. One kid said he wanted money for college. I asked him something along the lines of, "If I gave you around $80k right now, but it came on the stipulation that one day I might cut off your legs and kill your best friend, would you take it?" He looked at me shocked and said, "Of course not." I replied back, "So why in the hell are you offering Hajji that chance for the government to give you that money? Join to kill the enemy or don't join. The benefits might not be something you find worth it." He did join, but I at least did my part to put in his head that it wasn't going to be a free ride. I was very angry with the Army for pulling me off the line and sending me to recruiting so I did my best to serve all kool aid without sugar. I was a horrible recruiter by the numbers, but at least my conscience is clear about those I helped sign their lives away for a few years.
When I got out, I moved to California for a while to be near the beach. Let me say, med retirement check+post 9/11 living stipend put me within 200 yards of the ocean and I surfed almost every day for the year I lived there. So that was at least pretty cool.
hollohas
08-24-2016, 21:49
I've not read the book, so I don't know what kind of secrets, if any, he spilled. My guess is not much. I seriously doubt he has schematics for equipment, encryption codes for the radios, names and address for those evolved, etc. If it's like other books about specific operations I've read, describing timelines, tactics, emotions and experiences is hardly exposing national secrets.
I enjoy reading/learning about the battles our military has fought. The level of respect generated for our military from these types of books is amazing. We constantly hear "if you didn't serve, then you don't know." And while that's true, sharing at least some of the experience via a novel is one way to give the public at least a tiny peek into what it's all about. That's a good thing. I don't understand the tendency of many who are called to serve the country but at the same time are so unwilling to share any experience of that service with their countrymen whom they fought to protect. No, we won't ever understand the same way you do, but we are capable of being sympathetic and appreciative. These types of books remind us all that our military deserves that from us. And this particular book is on the top of the list because it's one of the greatest manhunts of all time.
I'm calling a spade a spade it's called Military Service, not Military Welfare. God and Country not Cash and Flash. I didn't enlist during Wartime for a pat on the back. We that served certainly earned our pay and bennies no doubt, but this stellar example of the Navy's finest is bitching about the pay and bennies after signing a book deal that violates an NDA he signed. And is looking for sympathy that the Government is going after him.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Guess I didn't make that connection.
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